Just read where limited - -very limited in the Phog for fans this Season , gonna Suck. - - 1,500 max capacity - -that's under 10 % or right at - -article says under 10 %
So question there goes the consecutive sell outs. - - Or will that count against us because of the COVID ? - - just not gonna be the same. -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Atleast we r playing
@Crimsonorblue22 said in Well Might as well be Empty Phog:
Atleast we r playing
Very True - but the question is - - for how long before inneruption? - -just watch COVID conference from KU Med Center. - - New cases are up 30/40 % across the Nation. - -I just have this feeling games gonna be cancelled again.
@jayballer67 I would imagine if 1,500 (or whatever) is the maximum amount of tickets that they allow to be sold - it would have to still be considered a sellout if they sold all 1,500 of them.
@nuleafjhawk said in Well Might as well be Empty Phog:
@jayballer67 I would imagine if 1,500 (or whatever) is the maximum amount of tickets that they allow to be sold - it would have to still be considered a sellout if they sold all 1,500 of them.
maybe/possibly - -I sure hope that's the case I'd hate to see the string end because of COVID. - -sure gonna miss fan presence during games
Dam I read off the WIBW web site , that K-state is allowing 3,132 fans to attend their home games - -capping attendance at 25 %
Did we kind of get shafted by the KU front office/Athletic Dept? . .with only like 1,500 and right at 10 % ? - -Hell Even Emporia State is allowing 1,300 fans into their home games - -something doesn't seem right
I would think in Big 12 Conference the League ought to have a standard set league wide if there is restrictions - -same amount of fans allowed for ALL teams if that's the case , just feels as if we are getting short changed on this - -we going to be going into areana's with more fans allowed that doesn't seem right more of an avantage - - things that make you go Hmmmm. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@jayballer67 Why would the Big 12 set a standard capacity when not each county each school is in is the same? I'm fine with letting Douglas County officials determine what KU's capacity should be along with whichever county government there is for each school.
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Well Might as well be Empty Phog:
@jayballer67 Why would the Big 12 set a standard capacity when not each county each school is in is the same? I'm fine with letting Douglas County officials determine what KU's capacity should be along with whichever county government there is for each school.
Well let's see umm for ONE thing this should be a Big 12 standard for the league - -we are talking about Conference Basketball not Counties , so of course your fine with it - -if even one team has restrictions on them then ALL should have the same restrictions = =pretty clear cut - -pretty simple - with your way of thinking some schools would have 10 % 12 % capacity while another could have Standing room only -- ya that makes perfect sense -- you take and run with that
you tell me how your train of thought would be equal for other teams ? - - to have say KU - - Iowa State or whoever else have restrictions on capacity of fans compared to Texas or Baylor having no restrictions 10 % to Standing Room Only - that's fair right ? - -give me a break -if one team has restrictions then all should have the same capacity limitations. - -It's not one teams fault that their particular county has more COVID then another team. - -There is no logic in any team KU or not having to play with just 10 % and then having to travel to anothers where it is packed.
That would of been like MLB saying ok now KC you can only play 60 games and other teams being able to play 100 and KC getting left out because they didn't qualify with enough games. - -The MLB
teams ha games they got Cancelled but they re-scheduled -where all played the same amount - - -
So with the COVID being what it is then the BIG 12 should be the one to mandate /cap restrictions of fans from the very beginning - -makes NO SENSE otherwise , why punish the players - hell you gonna say thats good then EVERYONE should just play in empty arena's instead of some with 2-3 thousand compared to 12-13 thousand - because of the COVID
Bigger the spread in Douglas co the more likely the players get it. Protect the players
@jayballer67 I'd rather have medical experts in each community decide what is a safe number to have inside each arena. Basketball arenas aren't football or baseball stadiums that are almost exclusively outdoor venues with much better ventilation that reduces the risk of transmission. These are indoor venues that mostly rely on recirculated air which increases the risk of transmission.
I don't want someone sitting in a corporate office in Dallas determining what is safe in Lawrence, Kansas. I want health officials in Lawrence that are familiar with the Covid situations in the Lawrence, KC, and Topeka areas determining what is safe for Allen Fieldhouse to minimize the risk of transmission. I want local health officials determining what is a safe capacity in each arena because each community has different issues and risks that determine what an appropriate capacity should be.
Even the NFL hasn't standardized the capacity of each team's stadium. They have allowed local health officials to determine what is safe and that's the way it should be.
Gotta admit, given the 1/5000 chances of fatality, lower if there are no preexisting conditions, I wonder if some coaches have already ensured their players have been exposed to the virus. These are ultra-healthy college kids. Many will likely be asymptomatic, and if not, get the sickness over and the antibodies in place rather than risk a major blow to the season later.
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Well Might as well be Empty Phog:
@jayballer67 I'd rather have medical experts in each community decide what is a safe number to have inside each arena. Basketball arenas aren't football or baseball stadiums that are almost exclusively outdoor venues with much better ventilation that reduces the risk of transmission. These are indoor venues that mostly rely on recirculated air which increases the risk of transmission.
I don't want someone sitting in a corporate office in Dallas determining what is safe in Lawrence, Kansas. I want health officials in Lawrence that are familiar with the Covid situations in the Lawrence, KC, and Topeka areas determining what is safe for Allen Fieldhouse to minimize the risk of transmission. I want local health officials determining what is a safe capacity in each arena because each community has different issues and risks that determine what an appropriate capacity should be.
Even the NFL hasn't standardized the capacity of each team's stadium. They have allowed local health officials to determine what is safe and that's the way it should be.
I'm just not OK with an un fair playing field when it comes to the sports side of it. - - Again hell let's just not let or allow ANY fans in - -that way not imbalanced any where and a lot less chance of COVID if we wanna go that route.
But to allow some Colleges to allow more fans then others ? - -You can twist this around in any shape or form you want to try but you'll NEVER get me to agree with that BS when you get to the Sport aspect of it. We all know fans can help make it rougher - -we have seen it from our own PHOG when the place gets to rocking - you don't think that doesn't effect the other opposing team?
So If we are Allowing a Team like Baylor or Tech to come to the Phog and play before only 1,500 fans and thein return we have to go play in front of their packed arena's? - just because the COVID is less there? - -there is NO WAY that is a fair balanced schedule. - -in the sports aspect you talking about messing with a teams schedule - - their ranking - - and their positioning for post season and even possibly not making a post season if the fan difference makes difference which we know how it does - -there is just NO WAY in hell that's on a even field - - NOPE - - NOPE - - NOPE
So to satisify - - let's just not allow any fans in any arena's if were worried because of the COVID which we should be worried but just saying to allow otherwise - - umm no that DOES NOT work
How will our season go? I think schools and conferences have created a list of possible actions, depending on the circumstances. If Covid continues to climb in Kansas and the rest of the Big 12 the first thing I see happening is fans get shutout all together from games.
Then we will look at player infections. What happens when a team has 1 or more infected players? Testing the team, coaches, external people around players (dorm personnel, etc.) takes time to be accurate because it should involve more than one test over a gap of time. How will that work when we have, say, two games a week? Travel is usually involved.
I hate to be the skeptic, but I just don't see this season working out. I'm thinking there should have been no preseason, jump into league play in November, and then leave lots of gaps for makeup games. The key is getting in league needs before March Madness.
@jayballer67 said in Well Might as well be Empty Phog:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Well Might as well be Empty Phog:
@jayballer67 I'd rather have medical experts in each community decide what is a safe number to have inside each arena. Basketball arenas aren't football or baseball stadiums that are almost exclusively outdoor venues with much better ventilation that reduces the risk of transmission. These are indoor venues that mostly rely on recirculated air which increases the risk of transmission.
I don't want someone sitting in a corporate office in Dallas determining what is safe in Lawrence, Kansas. I want health officials in Lawrence that are familiar with the Covid situations in the Lawrence, KC, and Topeka areas determining what is safe for Allen Fieldhouse to minimize the risk of transmission. I want local health officials determining what is a safe capacity in each arena because each community has different issues and risks that determine what an appropriate capacity should be.
Even the NFL hasn't standardized the capacity of each team's stadium. They have allowed local health officials to determine what is safe and that's the way it should be.
I'm just not OK with an un fair playing field when it comes to the sports side of it. - - Again hell let's just not let or allow ANY fans in - -that way not imbalanced any where and a lot less chance of COVID if we wanna go that route.
But to allow some Colleges to allow more fans then others ? - -You can twist this around in any shape or form you want to try but you'll NEVER get me to agree with that BS when you get to the Sport aspect of it. We all know fans can help make it rougher - -we have seen it from our own PHOG when the place gets to rocking - you don't think that doesn't effect the other opposing team?
So If we are Allowing a Team like Baylor or Tech to come to the Phog and play before only 1,500 fans and thein return we have to go play in front of their packed arena's? - just because the COVID is less there? - -there is NO WAY that is a fair balanced schedule. - -in the sports aspect you talking about messing with a teams schedule - - their ranking - - and their positioning for post season and even possibly not making a post season if the fan difference makes difference which we know how it does - -there is just NO WAY in hell that's on a even field - - NOPE - - NOPE - - NOPE
So to satisify - - let's just not allow any fans in any arena's if were worried because of the COVID which we should be worried but just saying to allow otherwise - - umm no that DOES NOT work
Since when has sports ever been about being fair? Is it fair the FBI and NCAA targeted Adidas schools while not investigating Duke or Kentucky's recruiting practices?
If a 1,500 limit for AFH is what it will take to see KU play basketball this season while Baylor is at 25%, then so be it. Life and sports have never been about being fair.
you talking about the COVID and effecting possibly the Season. - -I read from an article that Dr Faucci today he said :
That we as a Nation are adding over 74,000 new cases a day right now and expecting it t get worse as Winter sets in He said 41 States are reporting at least 10 % more Cases now compared to the week before.
Saying there is 30 but closer to 40 States that's seeing Alarming rise in the Cases. One major reason for that is that we never got down to a manageable baseline. - - -We were in such a hurry to open things back up Now there is so much Community spread that even the classic maneuvers like the contact tracing aren't work very well. He said the pressure to hurry up and open up has caused this -- that and people not wanting to follow guidelines that were put in place to try and help control like - - - - Mas gatherings - - -Social distancing - -wearing the masks - - - sanatizing washing your hands frequently -all not followed consistency so now we have this
I think your right
IF our Season isn't disrupted again this year I think before it's all said and done your going to see once again these areana's will be empty - -NO FANS - that's IF the Season isn't cancelled - -talking like it's gonna get really bad and yes Kansas is one of the States where right now it's uncontrolled
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Well Might as well be Empty Phog:
@jayballer67 said in Well Might as well be Empty Phog:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Well Might as well be Empty Phog:
@jayballer67 I'd rather have medical experts in each community decide what is a safe number to have inside each arena. Basketball arenas aren't football or baseball stadiums that are almost exclusively outdoor venues with much better ventilation that reduces the risk of transmission. These are indoor venues that mostly rely on recirculated air which increases the risk of transmission.
I don't want someone sitting in a corporate office in Dallas determining what is safe in Lawrence, Kansas. I want health officials in Lawrence that are familiar with the Covid situations in the Lawrence, KC, and Topeka areas determining what is safe for Allen Fieldhouse to minimize the risk of transmission. I want local health officials determining what is a safe capacity in each arena because each community has different issues and risks that determine what an appropriate capacity should be.
Even the NFL hasn't standardized the capacity of each team's stadium. They have allowed local health officials to determine what is safe and that's the way it should be.
I'm just not OK with an un fair playing field when it comes to the sports side of it. - - Again hell let's just not let or allow ANY fans in - -that way not imbalanced any where and a lot less chance of COVID if we wanna go that route.
But to allow some Colleges to allow more fans then others ? - -You can twist this around in any shape or form you want to try but you'll NEVER get me to agree with that BS when you get to the Sport aspect of it. We all know fans can help make it rougher - -we have seen it from our own PHOG when the place gets to rocking - you don't think that doesn't effect the other opposing team?
So If we are Allowing a Team like Baylor or Tech to come to the Phog and play before only 1,500 fans and thein return we have to go play in front of their packed arena's? - just because the COVID is less there? - -there is NO WAY that is a fair balanced schedule. - -in the sports aspect you talking about messing with a teams schedule - - their ranking - - and their positioning for post season and even possibly not making a post season if the fan difference makes difference which we know how it does - -there is just NO WAY in hell that's on a even field - - NOPE - - NOPE - - NOPE
So to satisify - - let's just not allow any fans in any arena's if were worried because of the COVID which we should be worried but just saying to allow otherwise - - umm no that DOES NOT work
Since when has sports ever been about being fair? Is it fair the FBI and NCAA targeted Adidas schools while not investigating Duke or Kentucky's recruiting practices?
If a 1,500 limit for AFH is what it will take to see KU play basketball this season while Baylor is at 25%, then so be it. Life and sports have never been about being fair.
Feeble response - -NOPE you can talk till your blue in the face - -no way your changing how I feel on this - I could give a GD about the FBI right now they not playing in our Conference - It's got to be fair on the court or not at all
@jayballer67 said in Well Might as well be Empty Phog:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Well Might as well be Empty Phog:
@jayballer67 said in Well Might as well be Empty Phog:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Well Might as well be Empty Phog:
@jayballer67 I'd rather have medical experts in each community decide what is a safe number to have inside each arena. Basketball arenas aren't football or baseball stadiums that are almost exclusively outdoor venues with much better ventilation that reduces the risk of transmission. These are indoor venues that mostly rely on recirculated air which increases the risk of transmission.
I don't want someone sitting in a corporate office in Dallas determining what is safe in Lawrence, Kansas. I want health officials in Lawrence that are familiar with the Covid situations in the Lawrence, KC, and Topeka areas determining what is safe for Allen Fieldhouse to minimize the risk of transmission. I want local health officials determining what is a safe capacity in each arena because each community has different issues and risks that determine what an appropriate capacity should be.
Even the NFL hasn't standardized the capacity of each team's stadium. They have allowed local health officials to determine what is safe and that's the way it should be.
I'm just not OK with an un fair playing field when it comes to the sports side of it. - - Again hell let's just not let or allow ANY fans in - -that way not imbalanced any where and a lot less chance of COVID if we wanna go that route.
But to allow some Colleges to allow more fans then others ? - -You can twist this around in any shape or form you want to try but you'll NEVER get me to agree with that BS when you get to the Sport aspect of it. We all know fans can help make it rougher - -we have seen it from our own PHOG when the place gets to rocking - you don't think that doesn't effect the other opposing team?
So If we are Allowing a Team like Baylor or Tech to come to the Phog and play before only 1,500 fans and thein return we have to go play in front of their packed arena's? - just because the COVID is less there? - -there is NO WAY that is a fair balanced schedule. - -in the sports aspect you talking about messing with a teams schedule - - their ranking - - and their positioning for post season and even possibly not making a post season if the fan difference makes difference which we know how it does - -there is just NO WAY in hell that's on a even field - - NOPE - - NOPE - - NOPE
So to satisify - - let's just not allow any fans in any arena's if were worried because of the COVID which we should be worried but just saying to allow otherwise - - umm no that DOES NOT work
Since when has sports ever been about being fair? Is it fair the FBI and NCAA targeted Adidas schools while not investigating Duke or Kentucky's recruiting practices?
If a 1,500 limit for AFH is what it will take to see KU play basketball this season while Baylor is at 25%, then so be it. Life and sports have never been about being fair.
Feeble response - -NOPE you can talk till your blue in the face - -no way your changing how I feel on this - I could give a GD about the FBI right now they not playing in our Conference - It's got to be fair on the court or not at all
So should the Big 12 limit AFH capacity to 13,000 when KSU comes to town? Because that’s what Bramlage holds and it’s not fair they have to play in front of 16,300 when they come to Lawrence.
@FarmerJayhawk said in Well Might as well be Empty Phog:
@jayballer67 said in Well Might as well be Empty Phog:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Well Might as well be Empty Phog:
@jayballer67 said in Well Might as well be Empty Phog:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Well Might as well be Empty Phog:
@jayballer67 I'd rather have medical experts in each community decide what is a safe number to have inside each arena. Basketball arenas aren't football or baseball stadiums that are almost exclusively outdoor venues with much better ventilation that reduces the risk of transmission. These are indoor venues that mostly rely on recirculated air which increases the risk of transmission.
I don't want someone sitting in a corporate office in Dallas determining what is safe in Lawrence, Kansas. I want health officials in Lawrence that are familiar with the Covid situations in the Lawrence, KC, and Topeka areas determining what is safe for Allen Fieldhouse to minimize the risk of transmission. I want local health officials determining what is a safe capacity in each arena because each community has different issues and risks that determine what an appropriate capacity should be.
Even the NFL hasn't standardized the capacity of each team's stadium. They have allowed local health officials to determine what is safe and that's the way it should be.
I'm just not OK with an un fair playing field when it comes to the sports side of it. - - Again hell let's just not let or allow ANY fans in - -that way not imbalanced any where and a lot less chance of COVID if we wanna go that route.
But to allow some Colleges to allow more fans then others ? - -You can twist this around in any shape or form you want to try but you'll NEVER get me to agree with that BS when you get to the Sport aspect of it. We all know fans can help make it rougher - -we have seen it from our own PHOG when the place gets to rocking - you don't think that doesn't effect the other opposing team?
So If we are Allowing a Team like Baylor or Tech to come to the Phog and play before only 1,500 fans and thein return we have to go play in front of their packed arena's? - just because the COVID is less there? - -there is NO WAY that is a fair balanced schedule. - -in the sports aspect you talking about messing with a teams schedule - - their ranking - - and their positioning for post season and even possibly not making a post season if the fan difference makes difference which we know how it does - -there is just NO WAY in hell that's on a even field - - NOPE - - NOPE - - NOPE
So to satisify - - let's just not allow any fans in any arena's if were worried because of the COVID which we should be worried but just saying to allow otherwise - - umm no that DOES NOT work
Since when has sports ever been about being fair? Is it fair the FBI and NCAA targeted Adidas schools while not investigating Duke or Kentucky's recruiting practices?
If a 1,500 limit for AFH is what it will take to see KU play basketball this season while Baylor is at 25%, then so be it. Life and sports have never been about being fair.
Feeble response - -NOPE you can talk till your blue in the face - -no way your changing how I feel on this - I could give a GD about the FBI right now they not playing in our Conference - It's got to be fair on the court or not at all
So should the Big 12 limit AFH capacity to 13,000 when KSU comes to town? Because that’s what Bramlage holds and it’s not fair they have to play in front of 16,300 when they come to Lawrence.
EXACTLY my point - -why would it be a fair if we can only have 1,500 - - when where the pandamic isn't as bad they are allowed to hold more fans. -if there are limitations and yet some are allowed to hold more - -v then just ban all fans play every where in empty field houses only fair way if they are letting some in. - - Why should Baylor be allowed to come to Allen and only have to play in front of 1,500 and then when we have to return the trip to Waco KU has to play in front of 3-4-5 thousand, same goes for Tech - -K-State any other team ? -is that fair to KU ? - easy answer - - umm NO.
Just like Coach said yesterday the way he looks at it with less then there will be less chance for gimmicks these other teams fans like to use signs noise and such. like he says Ku always gets eveyones best shot anyways - So why or how could it be possibly be fair when these teams get the chance to come to the Phog and play in front of under 10 %of our fans and then we have to go to their place like K-state who is going to allow right at 25 % they said or Baylor - -Or Texas Tech - -or West Virginia and they be allowed more fans - -your telling me you think thats fair ? - - umm no fricken way - -any way you try and twist it around.
So if counties want to restrict or schools want to restrict certain % - -the just play with zero - -only right way for that to be done period
@jayballer67 said in Well Might as well be Empty Phog:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Well Might as well be Empty Phog:
@jayballer67 said in Well Might as well be Empty Phog:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Well Might as well be Empty Phog:
@jayballer67 said in Well Might as well be Empty Phog:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Well Might as well be Empty Phog:
@jayballer67 I'd rather have medical experts in each community decide what is a safe number to have inside each arena. Basketball arenas aren't football or baseball stadiums that are almost exclusively outdoor venues with much better ventilation that reduces the risk of transmission. These are indoor venues that mostly rely on recirculated air which increases the risk of transmission.
I don't want someone sitting in a corporate office in Dallas determining what is safe in Lawrence, Kansas. I want health officials in Lawrence that are familiar with the Covid situations in the Lawrence, KC, and Topeka areas determining what is safe for Allen Fieldhouse to minimize the risk of transmission. I want local health officials determining what is a safe capacity in each arena because each community has different issues and risks that determine what an appropriate capacity should be.
Even the NFL hasn't standardized the capacity of each team's stadium. They have allowed local health officials to determine what is safe and that's the way it should be.
I'm just not OK with an un fair playing field when it comes to the sports side of it. - - Again hell let's just not let or allow ANY fans in - -that way not imbalanced any where and a lot less chance of COVID if we wanna go that route.
But to allow some Colleges to allow more fans then others ? - -You can twist this around in any shape or form you want to try but you'll NEVER get me to agree with that BS when you get to the Sport aspect of it. We all know fans can help make it rougher - -we have seen it from our own PHOG when the place gets to rocking - you don't think that doesn't effect the other opposing team?
So If we are Allowing a Team like Baylor or Tech to come to the Phog and play before only 1,500 fans and thein return we have to go play in front of their packed arena's? - just because the COVID is less there? - -there is NO WAY that is a fair balanced schedule. - -in the sports aspect you talking about messing with a teams schedule - - their ranking - - and their positioning for post season and even possibly not making a post season if the fan difference makes difference which we know how it does - -there is just NO WAY in hell that's on a even field - - NOPE - - NOPE - - NOPE
So to satisify - - let's just not allow any fans in any arena's if were worried because of the COVID which we should be worried but just saying to allow otherwise - - umm no that DOES NOT work
Since when has sports ever been about being fair? Is it fair the FBI and NCAA targeted Adidas schools while not investigating Duke or Kentucky's recruiting practices?
If a 1,500 limit for AFH is what it will take to see KU play basketball this season while Baylor is at 25%, then so be it. Life and sports have never been about being fair.
Feeble response - -NOPE you can talk till your blue in the face - -no way your changing how I feel on this - I could give a GD about the FBI right now they not playing in our Conference - It's got to be fair on the court or not at all
So should the Big 12 limit AFH capacity to 13,000 when KSU comes to town? Because that’s what Bramlage holds and it’s not fair they have to play in front of 16,300 when they come to Lawrence.
EXACTLY my point - -why would it be a fair if we can only have 1,500 - - when where the pandamic isn't as bad they are allowed to hold more fans. -if there are limitations and yet some are allowed to hold more - -v then just ban all fans play every where in empty field houses only fair way if they are letting some in. - - Why should Baylor be allowed to come to Allen and only have to play in front of 1,500 and then when we have to return the trip to Waco KU has to play in front of 3-4-5 thousand, same goes for Tech - -K-State any other team ? -is that fair to KU ? - easy answer - - umm NO.
Just like Coach said yesterday the way he looks at it with less then there will be less chance for gimmicks these other teams fans like to use signs noise and such. like he says Ku always gets eveyones best shot anyways - So why or how could it be possibly be fair when these teams get the chance to come to the Phog and play in front of under 10 %of our fans and then we have to go to their place like K-state who is going to allow right at 25 % they said or Baylor - -Or Texas Tech - -or West Virginia and they be allowed more fans - -your telling me you think thats fair ? - - umm no fricken way - -any way you try and twist it around.
So if counties want to restrict or schools want to restrict certain % - -the just play with zero - -only right way for that to be done period
I think you're proving my point. Artificial constraints are part of the sport. Allen Fieldhouse is massive, and TCU's arena seats less than 7000. How is that fair? Should the Big 12 limit Allen to 1/3 capacity when TCU comes? Of course not. That's insane. Should the crowd at Allen be forced to be quiet since Texas's arena is a ghost town? Of course not. You play under the conditions the local situation gives you. In this case, the pandemic is changing the conditions on the ground in a geographically diverse league. We'll deal. We're Kansas, not Kansas State.
@FarmerJayhawk said in Well Might as well be Empty Phog:
@jayballer67 said in Well Might as well be Empty Phog:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Well Might as well be Empty Phog:
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Well Might as well be Empty Phog:
@jayballer67 said in Well Might as well be Empty Phog:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Well Might as well be Empty Phog:
@jayballer67 I'd rather have medical experts in each community decide what is a safe number to have inside each arena. Basketball arenas aren't football or baseball stadiums that are almost exclusively outdoor venues with much better ventilation that reduces the risk of transmission. These are indoor venues that mostly rely on recirculated air which increases the risk of transmission.
I don't want someone sitting in a corporate office in Dallas determining what is safe in Lawrence, Kansas. I want health officials in Lawrence that are familiar with the Covid situations in the Lawrence, KC, and Topeka areas determining what is safe for Allen Fieldhouse to minimize the risk of transmission. I want local health officials determining what is a safe capacity in each arena because each community has different issues and risks that determine what an appropriate capacity should be.
Even the NFL hasn't standardized the capacity of each team's stadium. They have allowed local health officials to determine what is safe and that's the way it should be.
I'm just not OK with an un fair playing field when it comes to the sports side of it. - - Again hell let's just not let or allow ANY fans in - -that way not imbalanced any where and a lot less chance of COVID if we wanna go that route.
But to allow some Colleges to allow more fans then others ? - -You can twist this around in any shape or form you want to try but you'll NEVER get me to agree with that BS when you get to the Sport aspect of it. We all know fans can help make it rougher - -we have seen it from our own PHOG when the place gets to rocking - you don't think that doesn't effect the other opposing team?
So If we are Allowing a Team like Baylor or Tech to come to the Phog and play before only 1,500 fans and thein return we have to go play in front of their packed arena's? - just because the COVID is less there? - -there is NO WAY that is a fair balanced schedule. - -in the sports aspect you talking about messing with a teams schedule - - their ranking - - and their positioning for post season and even possibly not making a post season if the fan difference makes difference which we know how it does - -there is just NO WAY in hell that's on a even field - - NOPE - - NOPE - - NOPE
So to satisify - - let's just not allow any fans in any arena's if were worried because of the COVID which we should be worried but just saying to allow otherwise - - umm no that DOES NOT work
Since when has sports ever been about being fair? Is it fair the FBI and NCAA targeted Adidas schools while not investigating Duke or Kentucky's recruiting practices?
If a 1,500 limit for AFH is what it will take to see KU play basketball this season while Baylor is at 25%, then so be it. Life and sports have never been about being fair.
Feeble response - -NOPE you can talk till your blue in the face - -no way your changing how I feel on this - I could give a GD about the FBI right now they not playing in our Conference - It's got to be fair on the court or not at all
So should the Big 12 limit AFH capacity to 13,000 when KSU comes to town? Because that’s what Bramlage holds and it’s not fair they have to play in front of 16,300 when they come to Lawrence.
EXACTLY my point - -why would it be a fair if we can only have 1,500 - - when where the pandamic isn't as bad they are allowed to hold more fans. -if there are limitations and yet some are allowed to hold more - -v then just ban all fans play every where in empty field houses only fair way if they are letting some in. - - Why should Baylor be allowed to come to Allen and only have to play in front of 1,500 and then when we have to return the trip to Waco KU has to play in front of 3-4-5 thousand, same goes for Tech - -K-State any other team ? -is that fair to KU ? - easy answer - - umm NO.
Just like Coach said yesterday the way he looks at it with less then there will be less chance for gimmicks these other teams fans like to use signs noise and such. like he says Ku always gets eveyones best shot anyways - So why or how could it be possibly be fair when these teams get the chance to come to the Phog and play in front of under 10 %of our fans and then we have to go to their place like K-state who is going to allow right at 25 % they said or Baylor - -Or Texas Tech - -or West Virginia and they be allowed more fans - -your telling me you think thats fair ? - - umm no fricken way - -any way you try and twist it around.
So if counties want to restrict or schools want to restrict certain % - -the just play with zero - -only right way for that to be done period
I think you're proving my point. Artificial constraints are part of the sport. Allen Fieldhouse is massive, and TCU's arena seats less than 7000. How is that fair? Should the Big 12 limit Allen to 1/3 capacity when TCU comes? Of course not. That's insane. Should the crowd at Allen be forced to be quiet since Texas's arena is a ghost town? Of course not. You play under the conditions the local situation gives you. In this case, the pandemic is changing the conditions on the ground in a geographically diverse league. We'll deal. We're Kansas, not Kansas State.
gotcha - - so let's not limit Ku when TCU comes to town - - -When the ghost riders TEXAS comes to Town - -When the High School for down the Inner State comes to town - -EXACTLY
Let's go by the KU pandemic team guidelines so we can play as long as possible
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@jayballer67 I'd rather have medical experts in each community decide what is a safe number to have inside each arena. Basketball arenas aren't football or baseball stadiums that are almost exclusively outdoor venues with much better ventilation that reduces the risk of transmission. These are indoor venues that mostly rely on recirculated air which increases the risk of transmission.
I don't want someone sitting in a corporate office in Dallas determining what is safe in Lawrence, Kansas. I want health officials in Lawrence that are familiar with the Covid situations in the Lawrence, KC, and Topeka areas determining what is safe for Allen Fieldhouse to minimize the risk of transmission. I want local health officials determining what is a safe capacity in each arena because each community has different issues and risks that determine what an appropriate capacity should be.
Even the NFL hasn't standardized the capacity of each team's stadium. They have allowed local health officials to determine what is safe and that's the way it should be.
I'm just not OK with an un fair playing field when it comes to the sports side of it. - - Again hell let's just not let or allow ANY fans in - -that way not imbalanced any where and a lot less chance of COVID if we wanna go that route.
But to allow some Colleges to allow more fans then others ? - -You can twist this around in any shape or form you want to try but you'll NEVER get me to agree with that BS when you get to the Sport aspect of it. We all know fans can help make it rougher - -we have seen it from our own PHOG when the place gets to rocking - you don't think that doesn't effect the other opposing team?
So If we are Allowing a Team like Baylor or Tech to come to the Phog and play before only 1,500 fans and thein return we have to go play in front of their packed arena's? - just because the COVID is less there? - -there is NO WAY that is a fair balanced schedule. - -in the sports aspect you talking about messing with a teams schedule - - their ranking - - and their positioning for post season and even possibly not making a post season if the fan difference makes difference which we know how it does - -there is just NO WAY in hell that's on a even field - - NOPE - - NOPE - - NOPE
So to satisify - - let's just not allow any fans in any arena's if were worried because of the COVID which we should be worried but just saying to allow otherwise - - umm no that DOES NOT work
Since when has sports ever been about being fair? Is it fair the FBI and NCAA targeted Adidas schools while not investigating Duke or Kentucky's recruiting practices?
If a 1,500 limit for AFH is what it will take to see KU play basketball this season while Baylor is at 25%, then so be it. Life and sports have never been about being fair.
Feeble response - -NOPE you can talk till your blue in the face - -no way your changing how I feel on this - I could give a GD about the FBI right now they not playing in our Conference - It's got to be fair on the court or not at all
So should the Big 12 limit AFH capacity to 13,000 when KSU comes to town? Because that’s what Bramlage holds and it’s not fair they have to play in front of 16,300 when they come to Lawrence.
EXACTLY my point - -why would it be a fair if we can only have 1,500 - - when where the pandamic isn't as bad they are allowed to hold more fans. -if there are limitations and yet some are allowed to hold more - -v then just ban all fans play every where in empty field houses only fair way if they are letting some in. - - Why should Baylor be allowed to come to Allen and only have to play in front of 1,500 and then when we have to return the trip to Waco KU has to play in front of 3-4-5 thousand, same goes for Tech - -K-State any other team ? -is that fair to KU ? - easy answer - - umm NO.
Just like Coach said yesterday the way he looks at it with less then there will be less chance for gimmicks these other teams fans like to use signs noise and such. like he says Ku always gets eveyones best shot anyways - So why or how could it be possibly be fair when these teams get the chance to come to the Phog and play in front of under 10 %of our fans and then we have to go to their place like K-state who is going to allow right at 25 % they said or Baylor - -Or Texas Tech - -or West Virginia and they be allowed more fans - -your telling me you think thats fair ? - - umm no fricken way - -any way you try and twist it around.
So if counties want to restrict or schools want to restrict certain % - -the just play with zero - -only right way for that to be done period
I think you're proving my point. Artificial constraints are part of the sport. Allen Fieldhouse is massive, and TCU's arena seats less than 7000. How is that fair? Should the Big 12 limit Allen to 1/3 capacity when TCU comes? Of course not. That's insane. Should the crowd at Allen be forced to be quiet since Texas's arena is a ghost town? Of course not. You play under the conditions the local situation gives you. In this case, the pandemic is changing the conditions on the ground in a geographically diverse league. We'll deal. We're Kansas, not Kansas State.
gotcha - - so let's not limit Ku when TCU comes to town - - -When the ghost riders TEXAS comes to Town - -When the High School for down the Inner State comes to town - -EXACTLY
No, we’re limited by local conditions on the ground. As we have been since Naismith put up peach baskets. The league has never dictated equality in attendance so why should they start now?
@jayballer67 If you want fair, take your ass to the YMCA or some other fair play league. Major college sports has NEVER been about being fair and never will be about being fair.
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@jayballer67 If you want fair, take your ass to the YMCA or some other fair play league. Major college sports has NEVER been about being fair and never will be about being fair.
Whoooaaaa you taken this up a step huh? - -watch your mouth nobody getting nasty with you you need to quit crying like some BITCH cause you think no matter what fricken thread you post your always the right little shit and no one else can have their opinion - You best watch your mouth boy
you got me f - - - up for somebody else cause I KNOW you just didn't talk to me like that - thats total bullshit