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Aren't there something like 60 football scholarships to be given? Or is it 90?

No matter.

Let's move Jerrance Howard to head football coach and have him recruit basketball players to play football AND basketball.

Terrence of the wide body morphology himself will be given a clear mission: recruit basketball wide bodies to play football and then basketball.

They don't have to give it there all in football. They can go 0-11 like the current football players playing for KU football. They can run from contact. But they have to suit up for games and play.

Imagine how much better Self can do, if he has an additional 20-30 scholies.

Same for all the other sports also.

Baseball...20 scholarships.

Track...20 scholarships.

And so on.

Football is still 0-11.

But in every other sport KU wins rings.

Rock Chalk!

It's a tough year for KU football, as they are not only integrating a new head football coach, he is also having to face a natural attrition cycle of the roster which lost many seniors, incl 4-6 NFL players, especially from the defense. We lost Heeney and 2 NFL picked starting DBs, and are starting true frosh on the corners.

The frosh LCB had 11 tackles vs Rutgers, but was also giving a huge cushion to the 6-4, 6-5 WRs. I see Bowen trying to protect from the big pass play, and for the most part, it is working. The biggest issue is the Run defense. 10yd gash every time.

Let's see if all this relationship-building & Texas recruiting charm that Beaty certainly possesses, actually pays us dividends by the type of talent we have 2-3 years from now?

Sucks losing, and for the kids on the football team, this will be a tough season to swallow. But Beaty and Bowen have the right attitude for such a project. We have a chance against fellow BigXII cellar-dweller IowaSt next.

Jerrance Howard? Needs to git. On. Out. Of. Here! I don't see him as a positive. But I'd sure like to get Bill Self's unfiltered deep down thoughts on Howard and his "weed" thing...but that will never happen. Self holds such cards very close to his vest, unless we infer what his belief is from the (lack of)action that he took. Jerrance Howard's appointment on Self's staff now has multifactorial "politics" or angles involved. There is a reason(s) he was kept on...

@jaybate-1.0

Look at it this way. KU currently has two of the most eye-popping streaks going on in D1 -

1. Jayhawk Basketball has won 11 consecutive B12 regular season championships.

2. Jayhawk football has lost 34 consecutive away games.

At least we get the Jayhawk brand out there.... win or lose!

But seriously.... imagine if we would drop football but pushed more of the fundraising revenues into other sports... what could that produce?

I hate to think of KU without football. I've been to a heck of a lot of football games over the decades. However... would I trade football for:

National-contending mens baseball team

National-contending men and womens soccer teams

National-contending men and womens golf teams

National-contending men and womens tennis teams

National-contending womens basketball team

National-contending men and womens volleyball teams

National-contending men and womens swimming/diving teams

I'm sure I'm leaving out something (we are already competitive in mens basketball and track/field) and, of course, we wouldn't be competitive in all of these.... but what if we were able to pick up 2 or 3 teams to the highest level? Would it be worth it?

I'm getting sick of hearing sports media blasting Kansas football. I'm not going to blame players or coaches... I give them all the credit in the world for picking Kansas to play and coach for.

@ralster

Multifactorial.

Excellent take.

@drgnslayr

We are in a really tough situation.

KU fans have been played for suckers the last two football coaches.

I saw both Gill and Weis as ill-fitting hires from the beginning.

So: now we are supposed to think the folks that brought us Gill and Weis are suddenly going to get serious about football and hire Beaty--a supposedly good young coaching prospect.

But the problem is this: there was no pudding with any proof from Gill, or Weis early or late.

Now there is no pudding with proof early with Beaty.

Clint Bowen had them playing harder during his short stint as head coach.

So: what gives here?

I decided to be devil's advocate today.

I actually support Beaty and think he fits the profile of what we should have hired instead of Gill, or Weis.

But I am also some one that likes pudding with proof.

And I ain't gettin' any so far.

@drgnslayr And none of that will happen by dropping football. Most conferences, at least the majority of FBS conferences, now have clauses that require a school to have a football program to be a member. KU without football would be relgated to a third tier league for all other sports which would kill of their competitiveness. When BYU went independent on football, the Mountain West kicked the rest of their teams out of the league and they were relegated to the West Coast Conference. Something similar would absolutely happen to KU's programs dropping football.

People assume that dropping football would improve KU athletics, but it wouldn't, it would make them much worse. Memorial Stadium would become a complete dump because there wouldn't be upkeep for the stadium. The Big 12 would boot KU out because they won't keep a non football school. There's just absolutely nothing positive that would come from KU dropping football no matter how bad the team is.

@Texas-Hawk-10

Have you read the fine print? Do they require it to be tackle football?

@jaybate-1.0 Conference by laws are publicly available on every conference's website if you'd like verification of which leagues require members to have a football program to be eligible for membership.

@Texas-Hawk-10

Without even looking, I bet they require it to be tackle. Not flag. :-)

That's why I advocated replacing Beaty with Jerrance and having Jerrance recruit only wide bodies that could really block out the light in the free throw lane, and maybe a Charles Barkley or three that could drive the lane from outside, despite their mass.

I really think this dog will hunt.

Imagine 60 football players just going through the motions on football, while really working and training to become basketball players for four years. Self would have a steady influx of enforcers and rim protectors and our W&L statement would be just the same as its been under Gill, Weis and Beaty.

And it gets Jerrance off the basketball staff in a face saving way.

Imagine if Self really had five legitimate big men each season.

Two 5 stars, or OADs, if the embargo is ever lifted on him.

Three monster, senior wide body enforcers every flipping season as the back ups. These guys would weigh 270 to 320 pounds. And they could stay on spots. And put a body on someone. They would eat Ratso Izzo's guys for lunch.

KU would probably go to the Final Four every season and win about 1 in 3, or 1 in 4, until other teams started copying us. And then slowly football--the only sport guarantied to induce brain injury in everyone that plays it--would slowly recede like slavery and gladiatorial combat into the barbarity of the past.

And no matter what, KU would make the same amount on the football TV contract as it does now.

Rock Chalk!!!!

@jaybate-1.0 Bring it! Lets make it happen Captn!

@drgnslayr Ive heard that KU wrestling and Rugby do pretty well. Oh, and Rowing. Cant imagine why though. Only water is that awful polluted river.

@Lulufulu

Wait, Kansas has more acre feet of fresh water lakes than Minnesota; that was what I used to be told anyway after the earthen dam projects by the Corps of Engineers were completed to make the various river valleys safe from flooding and the congressman able to say they brought home some pork.