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~Self knew Preston would never play a game, but signed him to give Cal something extra to prepare for. It worked.

~The typically bumbling Yale Deep State aka Skull'n'Bones Post Doc Club, was out to discredit Kansan and D-CIA Mike Pompeo, but didn't realize he was from California and Wichita, and so not necessarily a KU-firster, but nevertheless inexplicably hacked into its own Yale Deep State controlled short-wave, mind-control antennae network in the Lawrence subnet, and MADE Billy lease a Charger; then while Billy was sleeping, switched the Kansas plates for some conspicuous Florida plate; then highjacked the black box in Billy's Charger through some Google backdoor, and made him have a fender bender. It worked, but as D-CIA Pompeo reputedly said, "Like I flipping care! Call me if its Wichita State!!! I'm busy trying to reform the Skull and Bones Intelligence Agency."

~The Lawrence chapter of the Global Illuminati sicko-cult, which took time off from sacrificial buggering of registered livestock in order to traumatize them into unleashing fight-or-flight hormones into the farm animal's bloodstreams, that are then bled and drunk in schooner glasses to give the Illuminati sicko-cult livestock buggerers their daily deviance treatments for chronic imagination dysfunction, used their voodoo that they do so well to disqualify Billy Preston with supernatural illusions brought on by Tesla long waves imported from a parallel dimension called Lovecraft Realm 911. The truth behind the insane illusion? Billy has no Charger. There are no Florida license plates. There is no Billy Preston. It is all part of a fantastic, long term illusion created to try to distract fans in the Texas-Oklahoma-Kansas Oil&Gas Conference aka the Big 12 from accusations of Bush One's sexual improprieties. It didn't work.

(Note: All fiction. No malice.)

Is the auto in question a Charger?

@drgnslayr yes

This is ridiculous and how in the hell does he get an impermissible car? I saw Blue Chips, but GEESH, really? Once again, like many of the others ie. Alexander, the program is slowly separating itself from BP. It's almost as if they see the writing on the wall.

Anyone have any REAL insight to this mess?

I read in the pre-game board with NDSt that it was minor? Hit a curb? A three game suspension doesn't sound like a curb. How much damage does a curb do to a vehicle that calls for a three game suspension and "...no update" from HCBS after the game? Here we go on the merry-go-round. Where it stops nobody knows.

@jaybate-1-0 I like the suggestion that there really is no Billy Preston. Just illusion. Easier to deal with.

@truehawk93

I don’t believe he was suspended for the fender bender, he is being held back until the school is satisfied that the way he got the car did not violate NCAA rules that could result in KU forfeiting games in which he played if he is found to have indeed violated rules that would make him ineligible, makes sense?

This is why we are all wandering why is taking so long. I will guess KU wants to make sure it does its due diligence and that this episode does not come back to bite it in the arse while also being fair to Preston. Alexander was also preventively held back the same way even when he was not found officially to be ineligible. As they say, better safe than sorry.

It's been going on for 5 days now. I'm assuming KU sent this to the NCAA for review.

What else makes sense at this point other then people not cooperating on the details of the car.

No update to me means they are not the people who can decide at this point whether he plays. KU has withheld him for it's own safety to not be caught in a situation where they played an ineligible player.

If they didn't think there was anything wrong he would play. A fender bender that didn't require a police report, that's nothing.

The longer it drags the more it smells like NCAA involvement and appeals to being ruled ineligible

@BeddieKU23

The NCAA does not have the legal power to force anyone to cooperate or provide any information. All it can do is tell the school that when information becomes available it can retroactively make the player ineligible with the corresponding consequences.

This situation better be resolved quickly or the FBI might take an interest in the case and become involved and that could have huge implications.

@JayHawkFanToo That last sentence makes very good sense. The last thing any toplevel sports program would want is the fine-tooth-comb scrutiny of a federal investigative agency, esp. this season when other powerhouse hoops schools are subjects of public castigation, coaches falling by the wayside.

JayHawkFanToo said:

@BeddieKU23

The NCAA does not have the legal power to force anyone to cooperate or provide any information. All it can do is tell the school that when information becomes available it can retroactively make the player ineligible with the corresponding consequences.

This situation better be resolved quickly or the FBI might take an interest in the case and become involved and that could have huge implications.

The first part is true. I threw it out there as a possibility for why the situation hasn't been settled. We saw the Alexander's that didn't want to cooperate. It's happened before. Who knows if this is the case.

The FBI part seems far-fetched. Even if it got that far KU has held out the player from all games and has taken its own course of action to ensure that whatever it is going on isn't affecting the team or the school. If its booster related etc I don't know its not worth discussing unless we know for sure.

We will see what movement there is next week. If we get "no update" everyday its more evidence that the NCAA is involved because the issue involves improper benefits. That would make the most sense why "no update" would be available because KU has turned to the NCAA for its support here.

@JayHawkFanToo I guess in a round about way, that's what I'm asking. If the NCAA is in fact weighing in, he may be out for a while.

Even if some booster gave the kid a car, as long as he didn't step foot in a real NCAA game we have nothing to worry about in terms of penalties, correct? Of course we'll have lots to worry about in terms of little front line help for Doke.

@wissox Nothing to worry about unless the booster was a known infractor whose contact with players was unsupervised, or whose prior actions should have caused KU to take better care to prevent him from doing bad things, or (even if he was not a known bad guy) who was allowed access to athletes under conditions that should have raised suspicions. Actual knowledge is not needed for a "lack of institutional control" violation. That "should have known" thing can be a real pisser--then the benefits aren't just an eligibility issue for a particular player. Ask Rick and Jim. Also, what got Larry 3 times, I think.

So, if adidas, a booster, or a coach gave Preston a car to coerce him to sign with KU, isn't that bribery under the current theory used in the present prosecutions?

@JayHawkFanToo NCAA can coerce cooperation by its component schools, all athletes, and schools' employees (call all of these "members"). Enforceable by suspension and fines, I believe, not subpoenas or other compulsory judicial process. They cannot, however, take action against members, et al., for refusal by a nonmember, even a relative, to cooperate or provide documents. (They seem to have finessed that problem with Cliff by simply not taking action since he was already not participating due to being held out--resulting in perhaps creating a new power, that of de facto suspension.)

@mayjay

I was referring to student-athletes. The NCAA has no legal authority to demand/order that information be made available; all it can do is ask nice, provided it has cause to requests said information, and the only recourse it has is the threat of suspension of eligibility. I don't believe it can declare a student ineligible without proof otherwise it would open itself to a civil suit. It does have more authority with schools/programs since they agree to abide by the rules as part of being members and it can always retroactively impose sanctions. Schools have more leverage with students since they control the scholarship/money and can always dismiss the student from the program and cancel the scholarship and they can "suggest" to the student he cooperates or else...

@JayHawkFanToo I think they can suspend an athlete for not cooperating.

@HighEliteMajor

Would be nice to know how long he has had the car. Hard to imagine Adidas has any dealings going on with the FBI already at their front door. Of course we have seen some really stupid stuff so nothing would surprise and with Preston none of this comes as a shock to those aware of his reputation coming in..