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Umm, Umm , Umm, - - I try to ignore - - I try to hold my tongue - -I try, - -lord knows I try - -But I've NEVER had somebody Chap my ass a much as this - -Even Ali when he was young and Cocky didn't get to me like this.

All I'm gonna say is - - -LAVAR - - Let me quote another individual that might know a lil something something and he said - -" LAVAR -shut the hell up"

LaVar yanking his son out of UCLA and going home. - -Lavar telling Byron Scott to shut the hell up after Bryon told LaVar pretty much the same thing after Lavar made comments about the Laker Coaching staff

All I know is if I were one of his kids, I would be soooooo embarrassed of the ass he is making out of himself. I'm confused - -now seems to me after a child has turned old enough to go off to College , isn't that usually a sign of that kid staking claim to the beginning of his OWN Adulthood? - -Isn't this the age when you make that break - -create your own independency?

Why don't these kids tell OL daddy O - -kick rocks. I am an young adult now - -time for me to make my OWN decisions. - I would make a clean split from this idiot. -Daddy can run daddy's life all the way he wants - -But me I'm in College - I'm on scholarship - -I'm my own person now - -and daddy is sure not helping my image.

I feel ill. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@jayballer54
And, it looks like he has potentially messed up the eligibility of his youngest as well!!!!
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/21667748/lavar-ball-pulls-son-liangelo-ball-ucla ↗

ICTJayhawk said:

@jayballer54
And, it looks like he has potentially messed up the eligibility of his youngest as well!!!!
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/21667748/lavar-ball-pulls-son-liangelo-ball-ucla ↗

This guy is a waste. - he thrives on controversy - -he so call Big Baller isn't doing squat so he is just trying to stir pub - - the only thing is it's at his son's expense - they have to carry around the burden of his Bs. - -He is an embarrassment for them, I wonder if he still even at their ages has to give them their ok on their Girlfriend - that's IF they have any.

Obviously this guy had no life when he was young - -he still has no life -so he has to attract attention somehow at any cost. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

He has made sure the kids are cult-like dependent on him and in the process made them the two most hated players in High school. Maybe Lonzo that now has the money of his own can step in and free his brothers from this moron.

Well maybe, and believe me, I'm no Ball fan, unless you're talking about Lucile, but maybe he's being a dad to his kid who got himself in a pickle that was a minor international incident. That's what I'm hoping is true in this case.

Hard to understand. If I had a son released from a dangerous scrape in a country he was lucky not to get some weird punishment in, I would be greatful to EVERYONE!

But what he’s sewin’ he’s gonna reap.

Sad.

Mercy this idiot is just so wrong I so many ways. - -Like " JayHawkFanToo " - said LaVar has turned these kids into a cult like dependent , towards him & most hated players at the high school level it's pathetic.

In Reality he is destroying these kids lives, and to LaVar - it's not about the kids - -it's all about being noticed by LaVar. - It's all about LaVar - - LaVar -- LaVar.

I mean ok he has pulled LaMelo out of school - - says he is going to home school him for the next two years. - -Now I have no problems if a parent wants to home school their child BUT with LaVar I feel it's a totally different ball game, - -it's not for the kid - - it's for LaVar

He is depriving LaMelo the chance of being the typical teenage boy, being able to inner act with others at his school , - -attend everyday normal high school functions. In a way he is sheltering these kids from society. - -It comes down to this - -Is this what the boys want? - -OR is this what Daddy wants? - -Shouldn't these kids have some say about their lives? -their future? - Does Daddy take the same approach when it comes to who his boys dates? - -Are the girls dating the boys - -or are they dating Daddy? - -do they have to go through an interview? - Just wrong in so many ways.

LaVar says LiAngelo will train for the NBA draft, that he is not transferring to another school. He says there is no need to break a kids spirit for making a mistake - -referring to the indefinite suspension. LiAngelo hasn't officially withdrawn from UCLA but is at home and will not return to school. I haven't told any of those guys referring to UCLA they didn't tell me anything so why am I gonna tell them.

This idiot says that his boys didn't need School - -REALLY? - - when does any kid not need School? - he says his boys does not need School and can train/prepare for the NBA without High School/college. - Tell me has it come down to a kid goes to School now days just for sport purposes? - I thought you went to get an education.

Thing is the question was asked to a couple of NBA executives about the boys - One said LiAngelo not even considered and NBA prospect, the other said he didn't believe he was. - - Now LaMelo is

This moron is ruining these kids. - Another thing about all this all we hear is what LaVar says about everything. - Can these boys not speak for themselves? - -Again at what age is a person suppose to be considered an Adult - -even a young adult? - Is this not THEIR future this idiot is talking about - -messing with? Why shouldn't they be able to speak for themselves. - I"ll tell you why - -Cause Daddy wants all the attention - he could give a rats ass.

These kids are what 18? - -ADULTS - - -going of to College - -embarking on their OWN futures - time for Daddy to back the F up. If the boys make a mistake -- then it's their mistake - - this is how kids learn - -you learn through your mistakes -- these kids need to be able to make their OWN decisions - -may not be the right decision or what we as parents feel is the right decision - but it's THEIR decision - they will learn - may be a wrong decision but they will learn. - This guy needs to step out. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

All mistakes I hope like hell I’m not making for my own kids. Seeing this Jack wagon (my 7 year olds favorite cuss word) in action makes me feel better about pretty much every non-violent person I’ve met.

I have a new theory about Lavar Ball. Lavar takes the pressure off his sons. Think about it. Rather than the story being about LiAngelo doing something stupid in China, the story is that Lavar is an idiot. LiAngelo screwed up, but he isn't getting roasted too badly because his dad blots out the sun with his bravado, taking LiAngelo off the hook.

Lonzo plays poorly - story is about Lavar criticizing the coaching staff, allowing Lonzo to get out of the spotlight and work on his game.

LaMelo is basically under the radar, because the story is always about Lavar.

He has basically insulated his sons (and his ailing wife) from a lot of the media attention because the story is always about him. He always ends up taking all of the heat and most of the slings and arrows. I can't tell if that's a perfect calculation on his part, or an overactive ego.

@justanotherfan Probably both- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

You know this is how it is. At the end of the day , if I were one of these Boys I'd be saying LOOK, this is MY future - -UCLA recruited me - - not you. They want me to come be a part of the team - - -not you - - -this is my life - - my decision - -not yours

Now woud I as a son of this piece of work - -would I want him to be happy with the decision that I made? - -Hell ya, as a kid you always want to please your parents - you always look for their approval, so of course I would BUT again it would be my decision - -my life - -my future we are talking about - -So I'm going to be the one to make it when it came down to it - -not daddys. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Jalen Rose thinks it’s great, because he didn’t have a dad. Says it let’s the kids be who they are without all the pressure of having to hype themselves also. Lavar offers a layer of protection he didn’t have.

I have a great dad. If he acted that way I wouldn’t think he was even a good dad. But I guess he’s better than no dad? In my life he would be a major obstacle to getting and keeping a job though.

@dylans Exactly -- there is NO excuse for this man. The sooner these kids can make that break from this hot mess the better they will be. - -Be able to make their own lives make their own decisions. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@justanotherfan

I respectfully disagree. Nobody was talking about Lamelo any more until this moron brought it all back again. Think about it, if not for him making his kids part of his freak show, no one would know or care about it; most people can’t even name the two other players.

What he is teaching his kids is that there are no consequences to their actions. Had the President not intervened, the kid would be in China facing a 10 year sentence. As I mentioned, lots of stories on how the two kids became the most hated athletes in high school, is this what you want for your kids? How is this protecting your kids? I think not and he is not.

Do you think the youngest ever sets a foot at UCLA or any other college? He is by now likely not even eligible anymore because of the shoe deal and what college would take him short of him declaring himself an emancipated minor and separating himself from Daddy Ball? Liangelo will not play college basketball, period. He would have to sit one year since he would be considered a transfer and what school would be crazy enough to take him? The Sarasota Clown College closed when Barnum and Bailey went out of businesses.

But if LilAngelo is making 7 or 8 figures 5 years from now in the league you'll come on here and take back what you said, right? Unless we know this family up close and personally we don't know if he's made the right decision or not. Time will tell. Sure, there's some red flags with this man, but I'm sure my parenting failures aren't put on blast by the shark feeding media. I can't believe I'm defending Lavar either, but we just don't know what's right in this case because we're not there.

wissox said:

But if LilAngelo is making 7 or 8 figures 5 years from now in the league you'll come on here and take back what you said, right? Unless we know this family up close and personally we don't know if he's made the right decision or not. Time will tell. Sure, there's some red flags with this man, but I'm sure my parenting failures aren't put on blast by the shark feeding media. I can't believe I'm defending Lavar either, but we just don't know what's right in this case because we're not there.

Well for one - -already been said by at least TWO NBA executives - LiAngelo is NOT even an NBA prospect - -- -not good enough for an NBA team to even consider. - If he even stands any kind of chance making any money - -it's going to be over sea's - -even then his options are limited. - Where is he going to play over there like some others mentioned - -China? - -He already knows the culture - -sure he would be welcomed back.

And let me ask you - - WHO is feeding the shark media with LaVar? - -Hello? - - -it's LaVar - because he is media idiocy the man is an absolute idiot. - so if his parenting failures are coming to the forefront - it's because once again he is running his mouth and showing just how stupid this guy is.

If you can't see how this idiot is ruining these kids future then I man oh man - I don't know what else to tell you - it's very plain to see. ONE MORE TIME. these times are the kids futures not his - it's their decision to make -- not his - -they are now 18 years old, time to make their own decisions. they are no longer kids - -they are young adults - step the F back Lavar - -couldn't be any simplier. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@wissox I seriously doubt, whatever hidden parental failures you may claim, that you would ever pull your kid from a top-notch all-expense-paid educational institution just because he was being punished for criminal activity. Pulling him because of the crime? That, I could see. But I know all I need to know about the family from this issue alone.

@wissox

LiAngelo was 3 star player out of HS and not on any NBA radar, not even close. He is considered the least talented of the 3 brothers and his chances of ending up in the NBA were small then and even smaller now. A great season at UCLA would have gotten him some attention but that is gone now. He will not be drafted and his only chance to play in the NBA is being a walk-on. Too bad he burned the bridges in China since it would have been a likely destination.

Mr. Ball’s strategy does not appear to add up to a net benefit for his sons.

This leads one to wonder, if it were perhaps a net benefit to Mr. Ball?

But what kind of benefit might it be?

Who might benefit from an African American father of basketball playing sons that taunts and insults a President of the United States?

What if Mr. Ball lived in Arizona, which, exclusive of Senator McCain, strongly supports President Trump’s policies on immigration? Would Mr. Ball be cheered on for disrespecting the President? Probably not.

But in Los Angeles, where Congresswoman Maxine Waters operates a popular and influential political organization, devoted to discrediting President Trump, Mr. Ball might be viewed as a hero.

If Mr. Ball were rationally pursuing self-interest, my best guess would be that it would involve some kind of local political calculus.

But he could simply be one of many, many Americans that just plain don’t like President Trump and his policies, and he doesn’t want to miss his opportunity to be heard.

In any case, I don’t see his actions helping his sons sell petroshoecos.

@jayballer54 How plainly can i say it? YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT'S BEST FOR LIANGELO. Maybe his father doesn't either, but I think he loves his kids no matter and knows better than you what's best for his kid at this point.

For the rest of you, I'm just trying to get you from jumping all over a situation that you're not informed enough on to give a sound opinion.

And I'll say it again, I'm no supporter of Lavar. I wish he'd step back from the limelight too, but that's not his way. He's at least partially responsible for raising one kid already who after one year of college is making insane types of money. That's great! He has at least one successful kid!

@wissox HOW PLAINLY DO YOU HAVE TO BE TOLD. - -he is destroying these kids. - you think I'm THE MINORITY? - look again and not just here, - -These kids are Adults - -make their own decisions not saying this again - -it is not HIS FUTURE he is screwing up - -IT'S THEIRS man I can't believe I can use my caps so well thanks for the idea. - -you make it out as I'm in minority here about him being wrong - and he is very wrong. - -LiAngelo really didn't have much option for one going back to UCLA - -he is probably just as embarrassed about his daddy as he is about the situation it'self.

Someone now please lock this thread as wissox will come back yet again and this is getting nowhere unfortunely it's only going to get worse it's really sad things have to be like this or get to a point, but yet once again not able to give my view and what I think - the sad point it's far from me that feel this way - -JUST LOCK IT DOWN