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Is it time for Texas to hire Bruce Weber?
Jul 23, 2018 02:40 PM #1

Shaka Smart sucks. He is a solid .668 for his career but a mediocre .500 at Texas even with tons of Swoosh bait.

Squeaky Weber is .610 at Cow Pie State and and.651 overall. It grinds me to admit it, but the guy can coach and deserves a shot at Texas with its Swoosh-Juiced rosters.

Shaka needs more time at a mid major.

Jul 23, 2018 03:27 PM #2

KSU IS a Nike school...

Jul 24, 2018 05:02 AM #3

@JayHawkFanToo

Exactly. It’s like a Nike D-League. That’s why the Squeak IS great fit.

What?

U think a Nike school hires non Nike? How quaint?

Jul 24, 2018 09:44 AM #4

@jaybate-1.0

Do you really think that if Coach Self (Adidas) decides to leave Nike schools would not be interested? How naive. :smile:

Jul 24, 2018 12:57 PM #5

@JayHawkFanToo

Do you really think that if Coach Self (adidas) decides to leave Nike schools would be interested in hiring him with while he stayed under contract with adidas?

“Whatta maroon!”—Bugs Bunny 😂

Jul 24, 2018 02:33 PM #6

https://alumni.unc.edu/news/unc-nike-sign-new-10-year-contract/ ↗

Didn't Roy move there? I was sure the head coach of KU back in the late 90's early 2000's took a job at a Nike school? Was KU a Nike school then or was UNC an Adidas school back then? I am bewildered?

Jul 24, 2018 05:16 PM #7

jaybate 1.0 said:

@JayHawkFanToo

Do you really think that if Coach Self (adidas) decides to leave Nike schools would be interested in hiring him with while he stayed under contract with adidas?

“Whatta maroon!”—Bugs Bunny 😂

Coach Self does not have a contract with Adidas and never had one since his contract with KU specifically prevents him from signing a contract with any footwear, apparel or beverage manufacturer while he is under contract at KU. He simply coaches at school sponsored by Adidas.

Of course, you never let the facts get in the way of yet another loony narrative...I guess that makes YOU the “maroon.”

Jul 24, 2018 07:13 PM #8

@JayHawkFanToo Unrelated to Bill Self, I had understood some coaches do have direct deals with shoe companies. Maybe I'm wrong. I thought Roy had one with Nike.

Jul 24, 2018 07:27 PM #9

@HighEliteMajor

Williams has a Personal Services Contract withe Nike and so does Fedora, the UNC football coach. Coach Self's contract with KU specifically prevents him from having one; all the Adidas money goes directly to KU which likely uses part of the money to pay him. The UNC contract withe Nike is considerably lower than KU's contract with Adidas and maybe that is why Coach Williams is allowed to have a separate contract withe Nike

Jul 24, 2018 07:54 PM #10

If Weber was at UT they would be much better than Shaka's teams....BUT, I'm not sure any Top 5 player would play for Liberace. He seems to run off lots of lower rated players...God only knows how quick a Top 5 recruit would be hitting the eject button.

Jul 24, 2018 08:01 PM #11

@JayHawkFanToo Interesting .. in poking around, Pitino had one with Adidas. Wonder why some coaches do, and others don't? It would seem to me that not having a contractual connection to a shoe company might be a wise move. But I haven't considered all the moving parts.

Jul 24, 2018 08:17 PM #12

@HighEliteMajor

I read that almost all of Pitino's salary came directly from Adidas where Coach Self gets zero from Adidas. I imagine it has to do with what different states allow for public employees and also what accountants, both personal and institution, recommend.

Jul 24, 2018 09:32 PM #13

@JayHawkFanToo Ok. It would also seem to me that it would feel a bit dirty to get your money from a shoe company -- but if a state can only pay a public employee a certain amount of money, it might be a necessity.

It would also seem that a coach not contractually tied to a shoe company might be in a better position with all of the FBI stuff. I guess I wonder if Self or other coaches purposefully did deals without direct connections to the shoe companies for some reason (foreseeing the possible muck). It would seem that at the root level, it's better to be beholden to the lowest number of masters as possible. If I were a coach, I'd rather just get paid by the state vs. any other entity, if I was able to make the same money.

Jul 24, 2018 10:11 PM #14

Texas basketball coach is not going nowhere

Jul 24, 2018 11:18 PM #15

@HighEliteMajor

The state of Kansas limits how much a public employee can make so Coach Self derives only a few hundred thousand $ of his income from the state making him the highest paid state employee. The rest comes from Kansas Athletics, Incorporated, the corporation that was created to run all the sports at KU that get its income from gate receipts, tv contracts, merchandising, licensing agreements and donations among others, although the later are funneled through the Williams fund. In this regard, he has no direct or personal contractual obligation with Adidas other than indirectly as a member of the Athletic Department and as required by the KU-Adidas contract...in retrospect seems pretty smart and this is why and unlike Pitino he does not seem worried about payment to athletes by shoecos.

Jul 25, 2018 11:22 AM #16

@Statmachine i do believe we were nike back in the roy era.

Jul 25, 2018 12:23 PM #17

@Fightsongwriter Yes KU was Nike in the Roy era.