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May 09, 2020 10:36 PM #1

It is never too early, considering that this is May. Is there going to be a season? No vaccine until November or December if even then. KU is a university, not a pro team. I am thinking that the NCAA will be chomping at the bit to have a basketball season, especially after - I don't think there will be one - not having a football season. But it is not going to happen.

May 10, 2020 12:39 AM #2

@Marco well... I'd like to know everyone is using PPE, ideally n95, before resuming sports. I wonder what a sports n95 mask looks like. make that!

May 12, 2020 05:00 AM #3

I don't think there will be school, not at most of the universities (atleast not for awhile) and therefore no college football. June is in a little over two weeks. Basketball? When, '21-'22?

May 12, 2020 05:20 AM #4

It's in the plan

May 12, 2020 04:05 PM #5

@approxinfinity I find them pretty hard to breathe in, so I imagine it would be torture to have to breathe while in extreme exertion.

I can see opposing players grabbing masks. Will they interrupt games every time a mask comes off, as they stop for blood now? 4 hour football games, etc.

Maybe the answer will also address concussions: flag football (with latex gloves, of course).

May 12, 2020 10:44 PM #6

@mayjay said in Next season...:

@approxinfinity I find them pretty hard to breathe in, so I imagine it would be torture to have to breathe while in extreme exertion.

I can see opposing players grabbing masks. Will they interrupt games every time a mask comes off, as they stop for blood now? 4 hour football games, etc.

Maybe the answer will also address concussions: flag football (with latex gloves, of course).

Man, you're too much. But you are right. A worldwide pandemic going on with no vaccine, and people - especially the sports talking heads - are still hoping beyond hope that there will be college athletics. I love college sports, but let's be realistic. How can there be football or basketball when everyone else is taking their classes online?

May 13, 2020 08:25 PM #7

Anyway, hope that we do have a season. In fact, taking it a step further, we need to. Are there going to be loses? Yeah, sadly, we don't yet have a vaccine. But we need sports, and need to get on with our lives. We have to. We can't sit around waiting for death. We have to live.

May 14, 2020 01:15 PM #8

@Marco There's too much money at stake for schools not to play at least football and basketball or to even completely close campuses, at least for schools that participate in FBS level football.

There's already some rebellion against plans to go completely online by at least one school. The California State University system has already announced all of their schools will be completely online for the fall semester at least. San Diego St. however, who is a part of the CSU system along with fellow Mountain West members Fresno St. and San Jose St., has announced they plan to do a hybrid of online and in person classes in the fall. The logic behind the move seemingly is so SDSU can participate in athletics this fall.

I would expect most schools that participate in football at the FBS level to settle on a similar hybrid model so that they too can play this fall.

Along with the money football generates, schools closing in the fall would be losing millions of dollars as well from housing, meal plans, and textbook sales among other revenue generators. It would also destroy the economy even further in traditional college towns like Lawrence where students make up a significant percentage of the population when school is in.

There's going to be a lot pressure on major universities to reopen in the fall because of the money at stake for those schools and communities so it will interesting to see how these schools handle that pressure.

May 14, 2020 01:53 PM #9

@Texas-Hawk-10 Harvard is also online, we have them on our bb schedule

May 14, 2020 02:35 PM #10

@Crimsonorblue22 said in Next season...:

@Texas-Hawk-10 Harvard is also online, we have them on our bb schedule

The Ivy League is a totally different animal in this matter because those schools are truly academics first. They don't allow redshirts, even medical, so none of their spring sports athletes are getting their extra year of eligibility. They also don't give athletic scholarships, all athletes are on academic scholarship at Ivy League schools.

The Ivy League could permanently cancel all sports programs at their schools and be minimally impacted financially by that decision.

I wouldn't be shocked if KU has to find a replacement team for that game such as UMKC, Mo. St., SEMO, Drake, or some other smaller school in the area, possibly even a D2 program.

May 14, 2020 05:04 PM #11

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Next season...:

@Crimsonorblue22 said in Next season...:

@Texas-Hawk-10 Harvard is also online, we have them on our bb schedule

The Ivy League is a totally different animal in this matter because those schools are truly academics first. They don't allow redshirts, even medical, so none of their spring sports athletes are getting their extra year of eligibility. They also don't give athletic scholarships, all athletes are on academic scholarship at Ivy League schools.

The Ivy League could permanently cancel all sports programs at their schools and be minimally impacted financially by that decision.

I wouldn't be shocked if KU has to find a replacement team for that game such as UMKC, Mo. St., SEMO, Drake, or some other smaller school in the area, possibly even a D2 program.

Yeah, it is looking more and more like the college football and basketball schedules will be comprised mostly of, if not all, midwestern and southern teams which, ofcourse, will open a whole nother can of worms - all of the east and west coast players wanting to transfer to other schools.

May 16, 2020 12:53 PM #12

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Next season...:

@Crimsonorblue22 said in Next season...:

@Texas-Hawk-10 Harvard is also online, we have them on our bb schedule

The Ivy League is a totally different animal in this matter because those schools are truly academics first. They don't allow redshirts, even medical, so none of their spring sports athletes are getting their extra year of eligibility. They also don't give athletic scholarships, all athletes are on academic scholarship at Ivy League schools.

Are you sure about that? Medical redshirts are a thing at Ivy schools, at least they were. Maybe its a new-ish rule change that i wasn't aware of.

And just because you're an athlete at an Ivy doesn't mean you're on an academic scholarship.

May 16, 2020 01:11 PM #13

@RockkChalkk said in Next season...:

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Next season...:

@Crimsonorblue22 said in Next season...:

@Texas-Hawk-10 Harvard is also online, we have them on our bb schedule

The Ivy League is a totally different animal in this matter because those schools are truly academics first. They don't allow redshirts, even medical, so none of their spring sports athletes are getting their extra year of eligibility. They also don't give athletic scholarships, all athletes are on academic scholarship at Ivy League schools.

Are you sure about that? Medical redshirts are a thing at Ivy schools, at least they were. Maybe its a new-ish rule change that i wasn't aware of.

And just because you're an athlete at an Ivy doesn't mean you're on an academic scholarship.

The Ivy League does not grant redshirts of any kind.

"Although the NCAA allows athletes to use their four years of eligibility within a five-year span, the Ivy League does not follow this protocol. The league requires athletes to use their eligibility during the first four years of their enrollment and doesn't allow medical redshirts."

That is from Sports Illustrated last month in reference to the NCAA waiver granting all spring sport athletes an extra year of eligibility and Ivy League's decision to reject the waiver because of its policies in regards to redshirts.

In regards to scholarships, the Ivy League apparently doesn't Grant scholarships at all.

"Ivy League schools provide financial aid to students, including athletes, only on the basis of financial need as determined by each institution's Financial Aid Office. There are no academic or athletic scholarships in the Ivy League."

That is straight from the Ivy League's website.

May 16, 2020 01:21 PM #14

@RockkChalkk I'm not talking about the Ivy Leaguers, but places like Syracuse, St. Johns, etc.

May 18, 2020 11:48 AM #15

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Next season...:

@RockkChalkk said in Next season...:

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Next season...:

@Crimsonorblue22 said in Next season...:

@Texas-Hawk-10 Harvard is also online, we have them on our bb schedule

The Ivy League is a totally different animal in this matter because those schools are truly academics first. They don't allow redshirts, even medical, so none of their spring sports athletes are getting their extra year of eligibility. They also don't give athletic scholarships, all athletes are on academic scholarship at Ivy League schools.

Are you sure about that? Medical redshirts are a thing at Ivy schools, at least they were. Maybe its a new-ish rule change that i wasn't aware of.

And just because you're an athlete at an Ivy doesn't mean you're on an academic scholarship.

The Ivy League does not grant redshirts of any kind.

"Although the NCAA allows athletes to use their four years of eligibility within a five-year span, the Ivy League does not follow this protocol. The league requires athletes to use their eligibility during the first four years of their enrollment and doesn't allow medical redshirts."

That is from Sports Illustrated last month in reference to the NCAA waiver granting all spring sport athletes an extra year of eligibility and Ivy League's decision to reject the waiver because of its policies in regards to redshirts.

Interesting. I personally know a handful of people that have done it so maybe its a rule change. Or maybe there is a lenient process to get a waiver from this rule. Don't know.

May 18, 2020 11:56 AM #16

@RockkChalkk I read a couple things about medical hardship being a thing for Ivy League but they seem to be documentation on the university sites (e.g. Brown and Penn).. :man_shrugging:

ex.

NCAA Medical Hardship Waiver

A student-athlete may be granted an additional year of competition by the Ivy League for reasons of “hardship.”

Hardship is defined as an incapacity resulting from an injury or illness that has occurred under the following

conditions:

• The incapacitating injury or illness occurs in one of the four seasons of intercollegiate competition at

Penn.

• The injury or illness occurs prior to the completion of the first half of the playing season and results

in incapacity to compete for the remainder of that playing season.

• The student-athlete’s participation in intercollegiate competition has not exceeded the greater of

three contests/dates of competition or 30 percent of the contests/dates of competition scheduled

in the student-athlete's sport.

May 19, 2020 12:01 PM #17

@approxinfinity Yes, thank you for finding that. Its been a while but thats exactly how i remember it.