In spite of covid, Auburn is giving Gus Malzahn $21.5m to go away. Freeze? Whoever it is, you donāt fork out that kind of cash unless you have your man.
Lovie out at Illinois (can he come back to Chicago? Pls?) thatās a program that should be better than what itās been.
Matt Wells looks like toast at Tech for some reason. Do they bring back Briles?
Sumlin out at Arizona after cratering that program. Sark?
@FarmerJayhawk Wells is only in year 2 at Tech and I don't think they have the money to buy him out this year.
I wonāt share a source, but Iām hearing rumblings Les will be stepping down after the season.
@Kcmatt7 said in Coaching Carousel:
I wonāt share a source, but Iām hearing rumblings Les will be stepping down after the season.
I fricken hope not - - we will EVER get out of this crap hole if we keep switching Coach's every couple of years. - -you wanna see this 2021 class go right out the window - - WATCH - -if Les is gone - -holy shit this better not be true
Thereās some consternation behind the scenes with Lesās style. Itās a much tighter ship than Beaty ran (which is good). Add to that the KSU fueled rumors that he has dementia (which is wildly false), it wouldnāt surprise me if some are trying to will Les retiring into existence. As far as I know, Les intends on seeing the rebuild through and would only step down if there was a slam dunk replacement that could ensure some level of continuity out of respect for Long.
@Kcmatt7 Stepping down, or getting fired?
I hope it's stepping down. Because, at this point "KU" should just keep whoever's there and pray for 1 or 2 wins per season. No sense spending time and money trying to find another coach who will only stay one year.
Look, I bleed Crimson and Blue. I will do the job for....1/2 mil per year. Think about that! I would save the University a buttload of money and I could probably scrape by on that salary.
Plus - I GUARANTEE I would win at least as many as Les did this year. Where do I sign?
@nuleafjhawk Stepping down.
Are we going to do this every off-season?
@Woodrow said in Coaching Carousel:
Are we going to do this every off-season?
seems some like that idea - - - sucks
@Woodrow said in Coaching Carousel:
Are we going to do this every off-season?
With Lesās age I suspect so. And there will always be a segment of our fanbase (not saying anyone on this board) that unless the coach performs an actual miracle like getting the 2020 Jayhawks to 4 wins or something, itās time to blow it all up and start over. Itās one of the big problems with having a fanbase used to basketball where you can rebuild in a year.
@nuleafjhawk Good point. Here are the coaches in the 50 years (gulp!) I have been paying attention. The last decade has seen more upheaval than the prior 21 years, however.
Les Miles 2019-
David Beaty 2015-2018
Charlie Weis 2012-14
Turner Gill 2010-11
Mark Mangino 2002-09
Terry Allen 1997-2001
Glen Mason 1988-96
Bob Valesente 1986-87
Mike Gottfried 1983-85
Don Fambrough 1979-82
Bud Moore 1975-78
Don Fambrough 1971-74
@mayjay It's embarrassing (to me, anyway). I cannot understand why we can't attract good coaches and good players. And, I'm of the belief that there is no coach anywhere that could come to KU and make a winning program with the players that we have. NOT talking about their heart or character - just their football ability. Is Urban Meyer going to turn this team around? NO. Vince Lombardi - NO. Whoever you think the best coaches of all time, at any level are - they can only coach players who can play with the big boys. And you have to have more than one or two. You have to have them stacked up 2 and 3 deep.
Sorry - sermon over. But I'm frustrated. I want us to be good at football too.
@nuleafjhawk said in Coaching Carousel:
@mayjay It's embarrassing (to me, anyway). I cannot understand why we can't attract good coaches and good players. And, I'm of the belief that there is no coach anywhere that could come to KU and make a winning program with the players that we have. NOT talking about their heart or character - just their football ability. Is Urban Meyer going to turn this team around? NO. Vince Lombardi - NO. Whoever you think the best coaches of all time, at any level are - they can only coach players who can play with the big boys. And you have to have more than one or two. You have to have them stacked up 2 and 3 deep.
Sorry - sermon over. But I'm frustrated. I want us to be good at football too.
Re: the good players thing, I think youāll be very happy with the class of 21. There are some doodz Iām pretty excited for. Between 20 and 21, itās the most HS kids weāve signed in a 2 year period as far back as I can find, so at least the Mason years.
They are saying this 2021 class when they all sign will be the Highest Composite class for KU since 2014 , & the highest 247 top class since 2013 So there is better talent on the way. Like has been said it didn't take us just 1-2-3-4-years to get into this crap hole - it just IS NOT going to take 3-4 years to get us out of it , everyone would like for us to be good in BOTH football & Basketball who wouldn't been when you have had crap Coach's like Besty - Weiss - -& Gill you have to be able to understand WHY we are at where were at. - Instant success is just NOT HAPPENING.
Plus like has been said you just can't continue to keep rolling Coaching Staffs every 2 years or so - that kind of way get's you no where we have seen that. - -None of your better talented players want to come and play for that type of unstable situation just doesn't work
@FarmerJayhawk I haven't seen the list. But I hope you're right. We have to have players or it really doesn't matter who the coach is.
@nuleafjhawk said in Coaching Carousel:
@FarmerJayhawk I haven't seen the list. But I hope you're right. We have to have players or it really doesn't matter who the coach is.
For sure. Thing that sticks out to me are these guys look like Big 12 players. Not a Miles Kendrick in the bunch
@FarmerJayhawk How do we know they aren't?
@COHawk said in Coaching Carousel:
@FarmerJayhawk How do we know they aren't?
Theyāre all taller than 5ā8
Well three that verballed didn't sign today. - - not sure if anymore coming or not. -Seen a couple that looked like could be special - - just have to go through the growing process.
Obviously the big thing with this staff is they are staying away from the Juco's - redshirt some of these guys to go with the other youth and by year 3 gonna have some pretty decent developed kids.- Coach said getting close to85 limit - - but yet still gonna be able to have more
Two pretty solid recruiting classes 2020 , 2021 - and Les saying next recruiting class could be special
If KU is to turn this around, the key is to convince everyone that this is going to be a 3-5 year process. We aren't going to attract the type of talent necessary to turn things around in a single year. A Cam Newton type isn't walking in to just fix 80% of the flaws on one side of the ball just by showing up in town. So we have to solve those problems recruit by recruit. That takes time. That takes development. And that takes patience.
@justanotherfan said in Coaching Carousel:
If KU is to turn this around, the key is to convince everyone that this is going to be a 3-5 year process. We aren't going to attract the type of talent necessary to turn things around in a single year. A Cam Newton type isn't walking in to just fix 80% of the flaws on one side of the ball just by showing up in town. So we have to solve those problems recruit by recruit. That takes time. That takes development. And that takes patience.
Agree with you totally. - -Yet you have some that don't want patience they want it NOW - -doesn't work that way Like I said a day or so ago. - -Took us more then one or two years to get in the position we are in now & it's going to take more then that to get out of it.
Les is building this back from the floor up , which is with high School kids. Some people just can't get it through their heads that the more talented quote un quote elite or upper talented guys are just not going to come until they see we are making progress & have a stable Coaching Staff.
These idiots want to keep Changing Coach's every 2-3 years , now talking Crap on Miles , give me a freaking break if you have any kind of knowledge you can see progress being made in the program. Hell the players we have gotten to commit last year & now this year - - -a Couple of years ago - -we would have had the door slammed in our face little lone get them to talk with the staff - - We would have the phone hung up on us very quickly and calls not returned.
You have to be able to see/realize the the talent is getting better. - You look at the kids we are getting now compared to a couple of years ago - just look at the Schools that we are competing with for some of these guys compared to schools we were going up against a couple of years ago, - - All high School kids now compared to a lot of Juco's - just not the same - it JUST TAKES TIME
Only two verbals that didn't sign are Lawrence and Grays. If we can keep those two plus land a transfer (Les wants true or RS frosh from the portal) that's a grand slam in 21. At some point I'll sketch out a ROUGH two deep for next season. From what I have now, it'll be mostly guys with 3 or less years in the program. It's coming.
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Carousel:
Only two verbals that didn't sign are Lawrence and Grays. If we can keep those two plus land a transfer (Les wants true or RS frosh from the portal) that's a grand slam in 21. At some point I'll sketch out a ROUGH two deep for next season. From what I have now, it'll be mostly guys with 3 or less years in the program. It's coming.
Are you sure just the two ? - - I read of TOS that it was three that didn't sign. - - Lawrence , Grey's - -AND Scott just curious buddy.
Like you say it's coming just takes time
@jayballer67 said in Coaching Carousel:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Carousel:
Only two verbals that didn't sign are Lawrence and Grays. If we can keep those two plus land a transfer (Les wants true or RS frosh from the portal) that's a grand slam in 21. At some point I'll sketch out a ROUGH two deep for next season. From what I have now, it'll be mostly guys with 3 or less years in the program. It's coming.
Are you sure just the two ? - - I read of TOS that it was three that didn't sign. - - Lawrence , Grey's - -AND Scott just curious buddy.
Like you say it's coming just takes time
Scott signed. One of his buddies from Alabama might be next...
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Carousel:
@jayballer67 said in Coaching Carousel:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Carousel:
Only two verbals that didn't sign are Lawrence and Grays. If we can keep those two plus land a transfer (Les wants true or RS frosh from the portal) that's a grand slam in 21. At some point I'll sketch out a ROUGH two deep for next season. From what I have now, it'll be mostly guys with 3 or less years in the program. It's coming.
Are you sure just the two ? - - I read of TOS that it was three that didn't sign. - - Lawrence , Grey's - -AND Scott just curious buddy.
Like you say it's coming just takes time
Scott signed. One of his buddies from Alabama might be next...
Oh ok, when did he sign ? I know at Miles press Conference he hadn't -oh wait - -are they talking about Jacobi Scott is that right ? - -wasn't he last year ? - -I'm confused lol
Sure hope your right Famer, I read off the Lawrence Journal world a couple of minutes ago them and TOS both said Tanaka Scot had not signed . - not trying to stir the pot buddy but just curious , maybe he has signed late tonight. Thanks for all your input guy- -I sure enjoy your related recruiting in BOTH Football & Basketball - - I guess we will find out sooner or later lol
Youāre good. His HS tweeted it out. š¦ View Tweet?s=21
It could be a blueshirt where heās not on scholarship until August, but heās a Jayhawk.
@FarmerJayhawk How tall was Willie Pless? or Todd Reesing?
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Carousel:
Youāre good. His HS tweeted it out. š¦ View Tweet?s=21
It could be a blueshirt where heās not on scholarship until August, but heās a Jayhawk.
Cool greatly appreciated
@COHawk said in Coaching Carousel:
@FarmerJayhawk How tall was Willie Pless? or Todd Reesing?
Ok thatās 2 examples in close to 40 years. Youāre ignoring the legions of undersized guys without solid measureables that canāt do it at this level.
If you look at our really good teams over the years, they all had real pro talent. The Orange Bowl team had Talib, Harris, Hawkinson, Briscoe, etc. Masonās best teams had pro talent on the lines.
Iād rather take my chances with guys who look good on film and can develop than diamonds in the rough. Beaty tried that and it went poorly.
@FarmerJayhawk True, but too often a player is overlooked simply because of size. Not overlooking legions of undersized guys; just saying that size doesn't mean everything when it comes to recruiting. There are some small guys in pro sports doing quite well after doing well at the collegiate level.
@COHawk said in Coaching Carousel:
@FarmerJayhawk True, but too often a player is overlooked simply because of size. Not overlooking legions of undersized guys; just saying that size doesn't mean everything when it comes to recruiting. There are some small guys in pro sports doing quite well after doing well at the collegiate level.
I get that. My point is those guys are outliers. Perfect example in this class. Tank Young from Aquinas is 5ā6. If he was 5ā10 205 would he have more offers? Maybe, but his tape and measureables donāt warrant a spot at KU, even though he put up gaudy numbers. Heās definitely not Sproles, who KU absolutely whiffed on.
@COHawk said in Coaching Carousel:
@FarmerJayhawk True, but too often a player is overlooked simply because of size. Not overlooking legions of undersized guys; just saying that size doesn't mean everything when it comes to recruiting. There are some small guys in pro sports doing quite well after doing well at the collegiate level.
Todd Reesing checked pretty much every box other than heighth when looking at a QB. If he was even 6-0 or 6-1, he probably would've been a 4 QB and competing with Colt McCoy at Texas instead of coming to KU. If he was 6-3 or taller, decent chance he could've been a 5 or very high end 4* player.
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Coaching Carousel:
@COHawk said in Coaching Carousel:
@FarmerJayhawk True, but too often a player is overlooked simply because of size. Not overlooking legions of undersized guys; just saying that size doesn't mean everything when it comes to recruiting. There are some small guys in pro sports doing quite well after doing well at the collegiate level.
Todd Reesing checked pretty much every box other than heighth when looking at a QB. If he was even 6-0 or 6-1, he probably would've been a 4 QB and competing with Colt McCoy at Texas instead of coming to KU. If he was 6-3 or taller, decent chance he could've been a 5 or very high end 4* player.
I liked Reesing, but his height wasn't the only thing that held him back. He also did not have great arm strength. He was top notch on decision making and was very mobile, along with being accurate, but his size and arm strength is what had a lot of recruiting services down on him. Even if he were taller, he probably would not have been a 4* because of that, unless he was a better runner that could have made him a higher rated dual threat.
@jayballer67 said in Coaching Carousel:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Carousel:
Youāre good. His HS tweeted it out. š¦ View Tweet?s=21
It could be a blueshirt where heās not on scholarship until August, but heās a Jayhawk.
Cool greatly appreciated
KU has now announced Scott. I think Grays is close to a lock, there was just some bureaucracy that meant he couldnāt sign early. I feel pretty confident Edwin White will announce heās signed with KU tomorrow. And so will end the early period.
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Carousel:
@jayballer67 said in Coaching Carousel:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Carousel:
Youāre good. His HS tweeted it out. š¦ View Tweet?s=21
It could be a blueshirt where heās not on scholarship until August, but heās a Jayhawk.
Cool greatly appreciated
KU has now announced Scott. I think Grays is close to a lock, there was just some bureaucracy that meant he couldnāt sign early. I feel pretty confident Edwin White will announce heās signed with KU tomorrow. And so will end the early period.
So tell me , - - what do you think about the smoke from people that say KU is trying to get involved with the Washington 4 * QB that entered the Transfer Portal ? - -You think there is any fire to that or just a bunch of idle smoke ? - - He had a family member play at KU sometime back I guess , whatcha think ? - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@jayballer67 said in Coaching Carousel:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Carousel:
@jayballer67 said in Coaching Carousel:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Carousel:
Youāre good. His HS tweeted it out. š¦ View Tweet?s=21
It could be a blueshirt where heās not on scholarship until August, but heās a Jayhawk.
Cool greatly appreciated
KU has now announced Scott. I think Grays is close to a lock, there was just some bureaucracy that meant he couldnāt sign early. I feel pretty confident Edwin White will announce heās signed with KU tomorrow. And so will end the early period.
So tell me , - - what do you think about the smoke from people that say KU is trying to get involved with the Washington 4 * QB that entered the Transfer Portal ? - -You think there is any fire to that or just a bunch of idle smoke ? - - He had a family member play at KU sometime back I guess , whatcha think ? - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Theyāll reach out to any they think can play right away and have multiple years. I donāt know whether that interest is being reciprocated though. We may not have anyone until after spring ball.
New OL coach! Lee Grimes. Played at A&M, coached at Minnesota and most recently Charlotte. Deep connections in Texas. Fits the mold of Lesās hires so far. Comes from a big college program, and is young and hungry. Weāll see if it pays off. I at least think itās an upgrade over Meadows (I know, low bar.)
Herman out, Sark in at Texas. That happened in a hurry.
Coach Chidera left for SMU. Look for an internal promotion.
KU has hired Jake Schoonover to be the new LB coach and Special Teams Coordinator. Schoonover spent the past 3 years in a similar role at Bowling Green and 7 years at Illinois St. before BG.
I like it on paper. Losing Chidera sucks but Wallace obviously wasn't cutting it at ST. KC ties is a bonus.
Read where Rick Neuischel former Coach of Colorado pushing for the job at KU - reaching out to some Big KU Booasters
Lincoln Riley headed to USC. Legit shocker. I donāt get heading there instead of LSU but Iām glad heās out of the league
@FarmerJayhawk which league?š¤£
David Cutcliffe fired after 14 years at Duke.
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Carousel:
Lincoln Riley headed to USC. Legit shocker. I donāt get heading there instead of LSU but Iām glad heās out of the league
There's a lot less pressure at USC right now than LSU. If the SEC keeps a 2 division format when OU and Texas join, LSU and OU wouldn't likely even be in the division as Alabama. I would guess Alabama and Auburn would move to the SEC East and Missouri and would move to SEC West.
I'm also wondering if Lincoln turning down LSU has anything to do with Jimbo Fisher's potential interest in LSU. Another name I'm hearing as a potential option with Billy Napier off the table is Lane Kiffin.
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Coaching Carousel:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Carousel:
Lincoln Riley headed to USC. Legit shocker. I donāt get heading there instead of LSU but Iām glad heās out of the league
There's a lot less pressure at USC right now than LSU. If the SEC keeps a 2 division format when OU and Texas join, LSU and OU wouldn't likely even be in the division as Alabama. I would guess Alabama and Auburn would move to the SEC East and Missouri and would move to SEC West.
I'm also wondering if Lincoln turning down LSU has anything to do with Jimbo Fisher's potential interest in LSU. Another name I'm hearing as a potential option with Billy Napier off the table is Lane Kiffin.
Less pressure for sure. I could see them kicking the MS schools to the East to build the West into an absolute monster.
From what I saw Riley doesnāt want to coach in the SEC and was really peeved OU is moving. The Lane Train in Baton Rouge would be either amazing or total fecal festival and Iām here for either.
Finally, thank mercy weāre not playing in the sandbox this year. No way weād end up with as good a coach as Leipold.
HOWLING
So Ok , guessing maybe I'm more Naive then what I thought. I just don't see why the move Anywhere. I mean he is already at a top notch program , awesome facilities, always top recruits , very winning program, probably gets anything he asks for - -don't see a step up improvement for sure - -to USC? - -not a better program at the very best lateral move great fan base - -I just can't see the advantage - -why? - - -I'm sure he makes a butt load of money from his Base Salary and then all the endorsements - -tell me how does USC be a better position then Oklahoma - the league he is moving to by far is no better - I 'll wait go ahead fill me in
@jayballer67 said in Coaching Carousel:
So Ok , guessing maybe I'm more Naive then what I thought. I just don't see why the move Anywhere. I mean he is already at a top notch program , awesome facilities, always top recruits , very winning program, probably gets anything he asks for - -don't see a step up improvement for sure - -to USC? - -not a better program at the very best lateral move great fan base - -I just can't see the advantage - -why? - - -I'm sure he makes a butt load of money from his Base Salary and then all the endorsements - -tell me how does USC be a better position then Oklahoma - the league he is moving to by far is no better - I 'll wait go ahead fill me in
The path to a playoff at USC and the P12 is much easier than the SEC, even if the playoffs expand. In the new SEC, Alabama, Georgia, Oklahoma, Auburn, LSU, Florida, Texas, and Texas A&M are all teams that are or will consistently be threats to win the SEC. In the PAC 12, it's usually Oregon or Utah that's the biggest hurdle.
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Coaching Carousel:
@jayballer67 said in Coaching Carousel:
So Ok , guessing maybe I'm more Naive then what I thought. I just don't see why the move Anywhere. I mean he is already at a top notch program , awesome facilities, always top recruits , very winning program, probably gets anything he asks for - -don't see a step up improvement for sure - -to USC? - -not a better program at the very best lateral move great fan base - -I just can't see the advantage - -why? - - -I'm sure he makes a butt load of money from his Base Salary and then all the endorsements - -tell me how does USC be a better position then Oklahoma - the league he is moving to by far is no better - I 'll wait go ahead fill me in
The path to a playoff at USC and the P12 is much easier than the SEC, even if the playoffs expand. In the new SEC, Alabama, Georgia, Oklahoma, Auburn, LSU, Florida, Texas, and Texas A&M are all teams that are or will consistently be threats to win the SEC. In the PAC 12, it's usually Oregon or Utah that's the biggest hurdle.
Also, recruiting to USC with the right coach can land a top 5 class every season because SoCal is one of the 3 most fertile recruiting areas after Texas and Florida.
Will any OU recruits come to KU?
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Coaching Carousel:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Coaching Carousel:
@jayballer67 said in Coaching Carousel:
So Ok , guessing maybe I'm more Naive then what I thought. I just don't see why the move Anywhere. I mean he is already at a top notch program , awesome facilities, always top recruits , very winning program, probably gets anything he asks for - -don't see a step up improvement for sure - -to USC? - -not a better program at the very best lateral move great fan base - -I just can't see the advantage - -why? - - -I'm sure he makes a butt load of money from his Base Salary and then all the endorsements - -tell me how does USC be a better position then Oklahoma - the league he is moving to by far is no better - I 'll wait go ahead fill me in
The path to a playoff at USC and the P12 is much easier than the SEC, even if the playoffs expand. In the new SEC, Alabama, Georgia, Oklahoma, Auburn, LSU, Florida, Texas, and Texas A&M are all teams that are or will consistently be threats to win the SEC. In the PAC 12, it's usually Oregon or Utah that's the biggest hurdle.
Also, recruiting to USC with the right coach can land a top 5 class every season because SoCal is one of the 3 most fertile recruiting areas after Texas and Florida.
Right both of you. It looks kind of soft, like he doesn't want to get beat in the SEC. It is USC,,, but the same can be said about Oklahoma. With the recruiting in Cali though, he's going to absolutely dominate the Pac12. Almost guaranteed to be playoff bound every year. It just smells like a soft move. Not even coaching his team in whatever bowl game!
Riley to USC is a shocker. All that pumped up bologna to LSU. Florida gets Napier. No Idea what LSU is getting but they seem to have missed a good opportunity to have a coach here before ESD. Seems like no matter who they hire they have missed the ball if it doesn't happen in the next few days. Coaches can go in-home and have big recruiting weekends before ESD now.
As a FSU fan I'm hoping some dominos fall our way because of this..
Started here as well. Drake and Jackson are out. Replaced with Onatolu and Jordan Peterson
Lol hearing Oklahoma all in a stew , pretty much Riley packed up and got out in the middle of the night. Was at the Airport him and staff still dark this morning and leaving - -lmao .Like they said kinda Carma coming back and smacking Oklahoma right back in the gut.
Before the common OU Joe when they bolted and saying they going to the SEC - -the OU fan saying HEY that's the way it goes we gotta look out for ourselves, NOW it's happened to Oklahoma. Sports program stating have no idea why Riley would leave for USC - -and how the PAC 12 is trash. - Now Oklahoma saying what we gonna do. - Rattler transferring - - lots of smoke about Williams transferring. They saying they never thought Riley would leave unless it was the NFL- - now I'm loving this - -called Karma what OU and Texas did to the Big 12 - -Now Riley did t Oklahoma
Just read off the Soones Board that Venables was to be named the New Head Coach at around 3:00 this afternoon. - Most seem happy but conern aout him being able to maintain all the offensive talent they have
Also being reported that Lincoln contract for USC is to be 110 Million & USC is buying both his homes in Oklahoma -& Unlimited use of USC jet for the Riley family. - - now this is all rumor but thats what is coming out from local sports media
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Coaching Carousel:
@jayballer67 said in Coaching Carousel:
So Ok , guessing maybe I'm more Naive then what I thought. I just don't see why the move Anywhere. I mean he is already at a top notch program , awesome facilities, always top recruits , very winning program, probably gets anything he asks for - -don't see a step up improvement for sure - -to USC? - -not a better program at the very best lateral move great fan base - -I just can't see the advantage - -why? - - -I'm sure he makes a butt load of money from his Base Salary and then all the endorsements - -tell me how does USC be a better position then Oklahoma - the league he is moving to by far is no better - I 'll wait go ahead fill me in
The path to a playoff at USC and the P12 is much easier than the SEC, even if the playoffs expand. In the new SEC, Alabama, Georgia, Oklahoma, Auburn, LSU, Florida, Texas, and Texas A&M are all teams that are or will consistently be threats to win the SEC. In the PAC 12, it's usually Oregon or Utah that's the biggest hurdle.
Coming into this season, you could've added Washington to that list of Pac-12 contenders, but their program imploded after a series of on- and off-field missteps. Now they're in the middle of their own coaching search. The Huskies are set for a rebuild that'll take at least a couple of years. UW has the money to get a quality coach, just not USC or Nike/Oregon money.
now just saw coming off the bleacher report: - -Breaking News , Brett Venables has verbally agreed to become OU'S next head Coach.
DJ Viagalelei and numerous players are expected to join him
@jayballer67 said in Coaching Carousel:
now just saw coming off the bleacher report: - -Breaking News , Brett Venables has verbally agreed to become OU'S next head Coach.
DJ Viagalelei and numerous players are expected to join him
Venables thing might be true. Rest is not.
Wow. Brian Kelly to LSU
Poaching rn is unreal. Whoās next?
Fickell to the domers?
@jayballer67 said in Coaching Carousel:
now just saw coming off the bleacher report: - -Breaking News , Brett Venables has verbally agreed to become OU'S next head Coach.
DJ Viagalelei and numerous players are expected to join him
I'd very surprised if Venables wants anything to do with OU after the way they ran him off for Mike Stoops a few years back.
Lincoln Riley is also affecting OU's recruiting class as they their lost 5 star QB in the 2022 class. Spencer Rattler also announced he is transferring which was going to happen regardless of Lincoln Riley considering he was benched.
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Coaching Carousel:
Lincoln Riley is also affecting OU's recruiting class as they their lost 5 star QB in the 2022 class. Spencer Rattler also announced he is transferring which was going to happen regardless of Lincoln Riley considering he was benched.
Their 22 and 23 classes are decimated. Now theyād leaning on old Big Game Bob to salvage what he can.
Saw $15m/year for Kelly at LSU. Just stuuuupid money
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Coaching Carousel:
@jayballer67 said in Coaching Carousel:
now just saw coming off the bleacher report: - -Breaking News , Brett Venables has verbally agreed to become OU'S next head Coach.
DJ Viagalelei and numerous players are expected to join him
I'd very surprised if Venables wants anything to do with OU after the way they ran him off for Mike Stoops a few years back.
that would be great if he didn't. I'm more then satisified to see whatever happens with them - -don't feel any sadness towards that program what so ever
Brian Kelly to LSU.
Venables to OU is a homerun, all things considered. Oh well, to the SEC they soon go. Major coaching moves. Riley was a surprise, but Kelly even more.
@FarmerJayhawk makes too much sense right? Lots of Urban Meyer talk but I don't see it.
@Kcmatt7 said in Coaching Carousel:
@FarmerJayhawk makes too much sense right? Lots of Urban Meyer talk but I don't see it.
Can't see Urban being a hit with the ND folks, bad fit especially in light of his off-the-field issues. Seems like its Freeman & Fickell
It's going to be hard to top this years Carousel that's for sure. The money being thrown around to these coaches is going to create a point of no return. Tucker started it and its just continuing to balloon
@BeddieKU23 said in Coaching Carousel:
@Kcmatt7 said in Coaching Carousel:
@FarmerJayhawk makes too much sense right? Lots of Urban Meyer talk but I don't see it.
Can't see Urban being a hit with the ND folks, bad fit especially in light of his off-the-field issues. Seems like its Freeman & Fickell
Has Venables been hired as the OU coach? All that I've heard is Stoops as interim. Cincinnati had better step up to the plate, or they're going to lose their coach. Can they compete moneywise with Notre Dame? Not a chance. But they can make it easier for him to stay. He's built a program, and going to the Big12 can only help in recruiting.
@Marco said in Coaching Carousel:
@BeddieKU23 said in Coaching Carousel:
@Kcmatt7 said in Coaching Carousel:
@FarmerJayhawk makes too much sense right? Lots of Urban Meyer talk but I don't see it.
Can't see Urban being a hit with the ND folks, bad fit especially in light of his off-the-field issues. Seems like its Freeman & Fickell
Has Venables been hired as the OU coach? All that I've heard is Stoops as interim. Cincinnati had better step up to the plate, or they're going to lose their coach. Can they compete moneywise with Notre Dame? Not a chance. But they can make it easier for him to stay. He's built a program, and going to the Big12 can only help in recruiting.
Nobody has been hirred just yt. I posted yesterday that Veneables had verbally agreed to be OU'S next Coach.- - - NOT TRUE , not yet anyways , got the information from a fake Bleacher report.. His name is being thrown out along with Kingsbury and some others but no one yet. - The fans want a quick selection because of them losing r ecruits - nothing yet
@jayballer67 said in Coaching Carousel:
@Marco said in Coaching Carousel:
@BeddieKU23 said in Coaching Carousel:
@Kcmatt7 said in Coaching Carousel:
@FarmerJayhawk makes too much sense right? Lots of Urban Meyer talk but I don't see it.
Can't see Urban being a hit with the ND folks, bad fit especially in light of his off-the-field issues. Seems like its Freeman & Fickell
Has Venables been hired as the OU coach? All that I've heard is Stoops as interim. Cincinnati had better step up to the plate, or they're going to lose their coach. Can they compete moneywise with Notre Dame? Not a chance. But they can make it easier for him to stay. He's built a program, and going to the Big12 can only help in recruiting.
Nobody has been hirred just yt. I posted yesterday that Veneables had verbally agreed to be OU'S next Coach.- - - NOT TRUE , not yet anyways , got the information from a fake Bleacher report.. His name is being thrown out along with Kingsbury and some others but no one yet. - The fans want a quick selection because of them losing r ecruits - nothing yet
Do you blame the fans? Lol. Not a good look for Riley imo, not even coaching his team in whatever bowl game and even taking Grinch and looting their recruits. I'd be extremely pissed if were an OU alum and or bigtime OU fan.
When Roy left the program he did it with class. He didn't poach the players that he had recruited to play at KU.
@Marco said in Coaching Carousel:
@jayballer67 said in Coaching Carousel:
@Marco said in Coaching Carousel:
@BeddieKU23 said in Coaching Carousel:
@Kcmatt7 said in Coaching Carousel:
@FarmerJayhawk makes too much sense right? Lots of Urban Meyer talk but I don't see it.
Can't see Urban being a hit with the ND folks, bad fit especially in light of his off-the-field issues. Seems like its Freeman & Fickell
Has Venables been hired as the OU coach? All that I've heard is Stoops as interim. Cincinnati had better step up to the plate, or they're going to lose their coach. Can they compete moneywise with Notre Dame? Not a chance. But they can make it easier for him to stay. He's built a program, and going to the Big12 can only help in recruiting.
Nobody has been hirred just yt. I posted yesterday that Veneables had verbally agreed to be OU'S next Coach.- - - NOT TRUE , not yet anyways , got the information from a fake Bleacher report.. His name is being thrown out along with Kingsbury and some others but no one yet. - The fans want a quick selection because of them losing r ecruits - nothing yet
Do you blame the fans? Lol. Not a good look for Riley imo, not even coaching his team in whatever bowl game and even taking Grinch and looting their recruits. I'd be extremely pissed if were an OU alum and or bigtime OU fan.
When Roy left the program he did it with class. He didn't poach the players that he had recruited to play at KU.
True , what I read & heard Riley and staff that went with him kinda did like the NFL team did that packed up in the middle of the night and kicked rocks snuck off kinda slithered. - A lot think Williams is going to the portal also - -No Rattler , No Williams - -No 5 * 2023 QB - I love it lol , - the bank is open - -the flood gates WIDE OPEN
@jayballer67 said in Coaching Carousel:
@Marco said in Coaching Carousel:
@jayballer67 said in Coaching Carousel:
@Marco said in Coaching Carousel:
@BeddieKU23 said in Coaching Carousel:
@Kcmatt7 said in Coaching Carousel:
@FarmerJayhawk makes too much sense right? Lots of Urban Meyer talk but I don't see it.
Can't see Urban being a hit with the ND folks, bad fit especially in light of his off-the-field issues. Seems like its Freeman & Fickell
Has Venables been hired as the OU coach? All that I've heard is Stoops as interim. Cincinnati had better step up to the plate, or they're going to lose their coach. Can they compete moneywise with Notre Dame? Not a chance. But they can make it easier for him to stay. He's built a program, and going to the Big12 can only help in recruiting.
Nobody has been hirred just yt. I posted yesterday that Veneables had verbally agreed to be OU'S next Coach.- - - NOT TRUE , not yet anyways , got the information from a fake Bleacher report.. His name is being thrown out along with Kingsbury and some others but no one yet. - The fans want a quick selection because of them losing r ecruits - nothing yet
Do you blame the fans? Lol. Not a good look for Riley imo, not even coaching his team in whatever bowl game and even taking Grinch and looting their recruits. I'd be extremely pissed if were an OU alum and or bigtime OU fan.
When Roy left the program he did it with class. He didn't poach the players that he had recruited to play at KU.
True , what I read & heard Riley and staff that went with him kinda did like the NFL team did that packed up in the middle of the night and kicked rocks snuck off kinda slithered. - A lot think Williams is going to the portal also - -No Rattler , No Williams - -No 5 * 2023 QB - I love it lol , - the bank is open - -the flood gates WIDE OPEN
That they are. Bad look for Riley. Sent his players a text... Wouldn't want that to happen at KU.
@Marco said in Coaching Carousel:
@jayballer67 said in Coaching Carousel:
@Marco said in Coaching Carousel:
@jayballer67 said in Coaching Carousel:
@Marco said in Coaching Carousel:
@BeddieKU23 said in Coaching Carousel:
@Kcmatt7 said in Coaching Carousel:
@FarmerJayhawk makes too much sense right? Lots of Urban Meyer talk but I don't see it.
Can't see Urban being a hit with the ND folks, bad fit especially in light of his off-the-field issues. Seems like its Freeman & Fickell
Has Venables been hired as the OU coach? All that I've heard is Stoops as interim. Cincinnati had better step up to the plate, or they're going to lose their coach. Can they compete moneywise with Notre Dame? Not a chance. But they can make it easier for him to stay. He's built a program, and going to the Big12 can only help in recruiting.
Nobody has been hirred just yt. I posted yesterday that Veneables had verbally agreed to be OU'S next Coach.- - - NOT TRUE , not yet anyways , got the information from a fake Bleacher report.. His name is being thrown out along with Kingsbury and some others but no one yet. - The fans want a quick selection because of them losing r ecruits - nothing yet
Do you blame the fans? Lol. Not a good look for Riley imo, not even coaching his team in whatever bowl game and even taking Grinch and looting their recruits. I'd be extremely pissed if were an OU alum and or bigtime OU fan.
When Roy left the program he did it with class. He didn't poach the players that he had recruited to play at KU.
True , what I read & heard Riley and staff that went with him kinda did like the NFL team did that packed up in the middle of the night and kicked rocks snuck off kinda slithered. - A lot think Williams is going to the portal also - -No Rattler , No Williams - -No 5 * 2023 QB - I love it lol , - the bank is open - -the flood gates WIDE OPEN
That they are. Bad look for Riley. Sent his players a text... Wouldn't want that to happen at KU.
He sent his players a text ? - - WTH ? - that is just total classless
@jayballer67 that's what he did. Just bailed in the middle of the night, ditched the program and sent all his players a forwarded text.
@Marco said in Coaching Carousel:
@jayballer67 that's what he did. Just bailed in the middle of the night, ditched the program and sent all his players a forwarded text.
Total BS buddy - you would think that might effect his resume in the future with OTHER programs if he changes again
Hmmmm , see if anything comes of this. - -Just heard that the Iowa State Ad in an round about way saying ISU fans should be prepared of Campbells leaving specualtion between him & fickell or is it Bickell of Cinn for the job
sorry i know this isn't Coach but more about transfer portal K/State has lost another -they now have lost two out of their top three running backs. - Ervin yesterday & Wright today - Just Vaughn remaining out of the top three on depth chart
Also Oklahoma has now lost YET another player. Starting TE Austin Slogner - -and it just keeps getting better
Riley met with his team sun. I think Kelly sent a text. Probably should dble check facts.
@Crimsonorblue22 said in Coaching Carousel:
Riley met with his team sun. I think Kelly sent a text. Probably should dble check facts.
if you look at 1000 different articles - -a 1000 different takes. - - Kind of hard to meet with the team on a Sunday when he is at the airport with what staff is leaving with him and leaving in the middle of the night
talk now is Marvin Mims i strongly considering the trnsfer portl - I guess he has actually been thinking about it anyways for awhile. OU'S leading receiver an avg of 21.6 yards per reception -even more strongly now since Jadon Haselwood - - Theo Wease - - & Austin Stogner has entered the transfer
@jayballer67 it's on espn
Riley absolutely gutting OU.
Has Oklahoma hired a Coach yet ? - - not good
Not that I'm aware of. Pretty classless on Riley's part..
Emmett is gone, replaced by https://cuse.com/sports/football/roster/coaches/terrence-samuel/5282 ā
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Carousel:
Emmett is gone, replaced by https://cuse.com/sports/football/roster/coaches/terrence-samuel/5282 ā
dam Farmer you just full of good news, losing some good Coach's. - Was it Jones decision to move on or other wise ? - -Wonder how many players will hit the portal with him out ?
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Carousel:
Emmett is gone, replaced by https://cuse.com/sports/football/roster/coaches/terrence-samuel/5282 ā
dam Farmer you just full of good news, losing some good Coach's. - Was it Jones decision to move on or other wise ? - -Wonder how many players will hit the portal with him out ?
Yeah, he wanted to go back to Texas. KU was willing to match whatever was offered.
There will be a few. Though Iāve heard no main contributors.
Jim Panagos is the new DL Coach. At least, heāll coach some DL spot. Iāve gotten conflicting info on specific assignments. Either way, this is a great add.
Pro tip. If youāre the head coach at a prominent university in Alabama, do not, and I repeat, do not, have an affair with your assistant. Even if you moved her from Boise to Auburn. Just donāt do it. Even if sheās a very nice lady.
Will be fun to see where they go from here.
@FarmerJayhawk so dumb!
@FarmerJayhawk Losing coordinators too.
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