We good.
Alright Alright Alright
Let's go #Jayhawks ā¤š
Get after it.
We good, really good!
Just win baby.
Wonder if we start on the News or Plus. This game is taking FOR. EVER.
How long will we have to wait?
Baylor looks like shit
Just win is right although blowing them out would be so sweet
ISU beat muck fizzou š¤
@BeddieKU23 said in Squid Game (Thread):
Just win is right although blowing them out would be so sweet
Don't think blow outs are going to happen too much the rest of the way. WVU game was a shocker.
@BShark said in Squid Game (Thread):
@BeddieKU23 said in Squid Game (Thread):
Just win is right although blowing them out would be so sweet
Don't think blow outs are going to happen too much the rest of the way. WVU game was a shocker.
We are due for one. I don't think tonight will be one but one can dream
@FarmerJayhawk said in Squid Game (Thread):
Wonder if we start on the News or Plus. This game is taking FOR. EVER.
I'm sure News that's what they have been doing on the others
@RockChalkinTexas took ISU while to get their shit together
Will we see KJ against Tshwiebe?
Jesus, 6 minutes to go and it's tip-off time for the Hawks. PATHETIC SCHEDULING ESPN
Hoping they don't start it on +, don't want to miss a second of this one.
ESPN really baffles me that that don't allot 2:15 to each of these games.
@jayballer67 It's on ESPN3 - in Spanish. How's your Espanol?
Of course ESPN may just preempt coverage of our game for talking about TB retiring, which really, what is there to talk about.
Game
Looks like 5:10 tip
Still on espn?
Well they'll never show it on ESNPNews, they're showing a game of tag on there.
Also happy Kansas Day everyone!
Itās on espn news now
Espn news
Lets Geaux KU
@FarmerJayhawk A friend texted "HKD" earlier today. I could not figure out what the hell he was talking about. But while investigating did learn the exchange rate for the Hong Kong Dollar!
The old barn is HYPE
@tundrahok said in Squid Game (Thread):
@FarmerJayhawk A friend texted "HKD" earlier today. I could not figure out what the hell he was talking about. But while investigating did learn the exchange rate for the Hong Kong Dollar!
Thatās amazing š
Woooo
Trisha or whatever his name is doesn't know how to win in this building. Looks like TV Ted was one of those refs? That's always interesting
Oscar played here with wvu
Yes I'm aware
Wilson!
BOOM
J will
šŖ
CB LFG
Juan
Dave needs to flop on those
We are in danger.
So you're allowed to elbow a guy in the face to clear space.?
Hook lol
@BShark said in Squid Game (Thread):
We are in danger.
I thought we were good - just 3 minutes ago????
Dave is going to kill us in this game
LOL CB
Atta kid
Not sure Juan belongs on the same court with TyTy.
Boo
Harris got an earful from self
Bullshit call
Come on Remy
He literally threw his arm into him
REMY TIME
Prove me wrong about you, remy
Our guys just loping down the floor...
KU will be fortunate to keep this under 20 maybe AFH helps
No defense but it's all off missed bricks
No 44
@DCHawker said in Squid Game (Thread):
Our guys just loping down the floor...
Kentucky just has faster guys I'm afraid.
Game will slow down. They don't shoot this well
Ty Ty and the other guard both go within the first twelve to NBA.
My main fea going in was don't get into foul trouble.
I knew the BSabout Washington & Toppin not playing was nothing but BS
Ochai will need to find his game.
@BeddieKU23 quickly
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/boxscores/2014-11-18-kansas.html ā
Thinking about this game.
@BShark said in Squid Game (Thread):
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/boxscores/2014-11-18-kansas.html ā
Thinking about this game.
Step away from the ledge
Game back on espn
Gotta make shots
Walk
Oscarās 3rd charge of the game lol
@BeddieKU23 said in Squid Game (Thread):
Gotta make shots
Especially the ones at the rim - at least draw a frigging foul...
Och forcing it
Harris this is a mans game he canāt hang
We are out athleted by a mile
We might as well just forfeit
Gotta make shots
@kuballin10 said in Squid Game (Thread):
@DCHawker tougher when their are legit 6-11 athletes there to contest straight up
Actually, they aren't any bigger than we are, at least with starters. We have more size. Whether we play like it is another matter...
Once we stop doing stupid stuff on offense weāll be fine
@DCHawker said in Squid Game (Thread):
@BeddieKU23 said in Squid Game (Thread):
Gotta make shots
Especially the ones at the rim - at least draw a frigging foul...
Not getting called tho
@FarmerJayhawk said in Squid Game (Thread):
@BShark said in Squid Game (Thread):
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/boxscores/2014-11-18-kansas.html ā
Thinking about this game.
Step away from the ledge
Hard to get good shots up so far.
REMO
That works
Remyyttt
You guys are the most pessimistic fans of a 5th ranked team I've ever seen.
They are getting into the lane,
@Zabudda said in Squid Game (Thread):
They are getting into the lane,
Any decent team will do this against us. :grimacing_face:
@wissox said in Squid Game (Thread):
You guys are the most pessimistic fans of a 5th ranked team I've ever seen.
Ignore the guys having the vapors this early
@BShark said in Squid Game (Thread):
@Zabudda said in Squid Game (Thread):
They are getting into the lane,
Any decent team will do this against us. :grimacing_face:
Yeah may need zone
Och show up
@BeddieKU23 said in Squid Game (Thread):
@DCHawker said in Squid Game (Thread):
@BeddieKU23 said in Squid Game (Thread):
Gotta make shots
Especially the ones at the rim - at least draw a frigging foul...
Not getting called tho
Because we lean away from contact on drives...
Missing bunnies if found pls return to ADH
Make shots
@BShark said in Squid Game (Thread):
@Zabudda Looking forward to having more athletes next year.
Me toooo
About as bad a 8 as you could expect
I will eat my shoe if they shoot 70% the rest of the way
š¦ View Tweet If only Remy could have played more early on, to have developed better chemistry.
It's all in missed shots they are 69% we are 38%
Lightfoot shooting 33% from one foot for his career
@Zabudda said in Squid Game (Thread):
@BShark said in Squid Game (Thread):
@Zabudda said in Squid Game (Thread):
They are getting into the lane,
Any decent team will do this against us. :grimacing_face:
Yeah may need zone
Grady & Washington will kill ya in a zone
Missing too many š
@Zabudda said in Squid Game (Thread):
Lightfoot shooting 33% from one foot for his career
Dave's not much better unfortunately
Need a couple shots and a couple stops.
the parody account has arrived...lol.
Is Yesufu injured/
Lol dave
Kentucky shooting 70% cool
Rebound.
@jessejayhawk wonāt matter Bill doesnāt trust him he aināt got that Harris leash wish he had all year but heās 1 year away (yeah right)
Gotta look better in summer ball and go undefeated like the almighty harris
Canāt make layups
Pathetic
More BS
72-40 part 2
Plenty of time to turn this barge around
Not even mad. They are not even playing hard
Keep it under 15 until they start to suck.
this is about to get really ugly - - really fast
Whoever said sec ball sucked please speak up
Football and basketball they got athletes and learn over the season
33% from the floor lol
@jayballer67 said in Squid Game (Thread):
this is about to get really ugly - - really fast
Ugly for kentucky
@BeddieKU23 athletes can guard go figure
Makes sense why Joe is best on ball defender
Several times och and cb have driven but passed it up
More of that
Tshwbway needs to shoot more 10 footers
Oh boy cb
Joe
Lands
Och
Wilson
Dave
Bill would never
@BeddieKU23 exposed versus better athletes same song and dance new year
Looks great early
Title contenders we are not hope you all stop that non sense
Bad hands Dave
@RockChalkinTexas quick hands....
Hahahaha sit Dave for the next 40
No blood no fouls I suppose
They don't want the ball
Anyone watching the man guarding Harris on D...just watch for 3 possessions
Bill canāt not see this nightly heās an idiot
Do these guys not realize you can't give Grady an inch -- Geez
SMDH
We may need a couple of courtesy time outs.
Good thing we came ready to play
Iām glad my beer fridge is full
Just sit Dave and see where it goes
Dave is a distraction for our own offense
The last 2 games have taught me to not give up but it gets harder each game!
Kentucky already up 10 Boards and shooting 63 % - - NICE
@BeddieKU23 Iām drinking a 9% deschutes imperial ipa.
wonder where J Wilson went oh there he is
KJ CAN HELP.
@DanR said in Squid Game (Thread):
@BeddieKU23 Iām drinking a 9% deschutes imperial ipa.
Triple ipa from Burlington vt for me
@BeddieKU23 Bill trusts him in OT has no choice then all of the sudden reverts to KJ canāt play in this game. Idiot absolutely idiotic
@BeddieKU23 said in Squid Game (Thread):
KJ CAN HELP.
sad to say no he can't-- -not near ready enough for this
Such a bad take by Karen
Ouch
Lol refs
Marcus is there. Can he suit up?
@kuballin10 said in Squid Game (Thread):
@BeddieKU23 Bill trusts him in OT has no choice then all of the sudden reverts to KJ canāt play in this game. Idiot absolutely idiotic
Boy we sure need you as a Coach -- I mean have you ever been beat that you Coached lmao - -sweet imput thanks
Truck stick
Here we go. Cut it to ten
Zero defense
Good job getting back wilson
just not even close to the athletes that Uk has
@kuballin10 Hey get lost. You do nothing but badmouth this team. The others I can tolerate. It figures you show up today in this chat after we're losing by 10 or so. You're just a troll. Tired of your tired old act. Everyone else is too.
@BeddieKU23 said in Squid Game (Thread):
Hows Deschutes?
Pretty hoppy. 70 ibu s
Itās a 19.2 oz can, so I got count this as two beers
GO JUAN
Oh wow
Keep sawing wood
Nice dunk for a non athlete
Calling a timeout up 13 fuck you cal
Coming back from 16 against KSU is one thing but if we lose contact here itās going to be tough against UK. Gotta start chipping away.
Kentucky with 41 points already and still 4:10 to go in the half
Crowd needs to step it UP
Just Load the wagon, guys
We need more of that.
@DanR said in Squid Game (Thread):
@BeddieKU23 said in Squid Game (Thread):
Hows Deschutes?
Pretty hoppy. 70 ibu s
Itās a 19.2 oz can, so I got count this as two beers
Awesome. Spoiled here up in the NE. they make triple ipas taste like sessions
@wissox said in Squid Game (Thread):
@kuballin10 Hey get lost. You do nothing but badmouth this team. The others I can tolerate. It figures you show up today in this chat after we're losing by 10 or so. You're just a troll. Tired of your tired old act. Everyone else is too.
Thank you buddy. couldn't of said it any better
Has Kentucky even broken a sweat?
Have get some rebounds.
Kentucky at 60%, US at 42%. Needs to get to 50 and we have a game
Then again considering not much has gone right this half the fact weāre within shouting distance is one positive.
Terrible pass
We ā„ļø Holly
Junk D
Lol defense
Junk O
This is embarrassing - our defense is just really bad. They are getting any shot they want...
Youāre still supposed to guard that guy
Conserving energy with that d
Stop calling timeouts they ain't working
Jeeeeebus. If heās gonna make that just fold it up
guess they didn't hear me say you can't give Grady an inch. - - Well it's just one game but Dam
Time for Wilson and Ochai to be men
Wow, man. This has to turn in our favor somewhere, right? They canāt keep making everything and us nothing.
What's the answer? Gonna take a perfect game.
Down by 20š¤·āāļøš¤¦āāļø
They have just totally shut Och & Braun down - -non exsistent
@Zabudda said in Squid Game (Thread):
What's the answer? Gonna take a perfect game.
we have no answer
20-9 UK rebound edge. And, we've only gotten to the FT line once (at home)....
Gotta hit the open ones.
Always love when our offense ends Ina bricked Harris 3
@DCHawker said in Squid Game (Thread):
20-9 UK rebound edge. And, we've only gotten to the FT line once (at home)....
21- 11 in rebounds now. - we have no business on the same floor and Kentucky is showing that
Can't win poy when you don't show up in a game like this
Can't buy a basket
@BeddieKU23 said in Squid Game (Thread):
Can't win poy when you don't show up in a game like this
They have just taken him COMPLEELY out of the game
@jayballer67 said in Squid Game (Thread):
@BeddieKU23 said in Squid Game (Thread):
Can't win poy when you don't show up in a game like this
They have just taken him COMPLEELY out of the game
He took himself out of the game
Jcl didnāt run the play. Big surprise
@BeddieKU23 said in Squid Game (Thread):
@jayballer67 said in Squid Game (Thread):
@BeddieKU23 said in Squid Game (Thread):
Can't win poy when you don't show up in a game like this
They have just taken him COMPLEELY out of the game
He took himself out of the game
lol, I think Kentucky has something to say about that - -Kentucky just way more athletic and our crap defense is really getting exposed today. - -Hell they don't even need Oscar
Ouch!
Perfect game for UK so far. Totally outclassed us. But there are two halves in a game. Gonna see a different KU team in the second half.
OMG we are playing for a moral victory. Lol.
To see Bill go into a triangle and 2 was sad
@tis4tim said in Squid Game (Thread):
Perfect game for UK so far. Totally outclassed us. But there are two halves in a game. Gonna see a different KU team in the second half.
Are we putting a new 5 on the floor to make it a different 2nd half
@RockChalkinTexas said in Squid Game (Thread):
Crowd needs to step it UP
Iām here and the crowd aināt the issue. They arenāt giving up dunk after dunk.
Not expecting a Bramlage-like comeback today. UK too good.
We can make the open shots. Can we count on them to miss? Probably not.
Let's see if we can grind.
SEC could end up with 3 teams in the FF....
@Kcmatt7 said in Squid Game (Thread):
To see Bill go into a triangle and 2 was sad
If they would have missed those two damn threes it would have been OK
Swtiched over to the golf tournament at Torrey Pines. Hell of a lot more drama there.
@Zabudda said in Squid Game (Thread):
We can make the open shots. Can we count on them to miss? Probably not.
Let's see if we can grind.
Well, especially since about half of them were dunks...
@DCHawker said in Squid Game (Thread):
@Zabudda said in Squid Game (Thread):
We can make the open shots. Can we count on them to miss? Probably not.
Let's see if we can grind.Well, especially since about half of them were dunks...
Well there is that.
@nwhawkfan said in Squid Game (Thread):
Swtiched over to the golf tournament at Torrey Pines. Hell of a lot more drama there.
Any hole in ones? - -I need to watch something exciting lol
@jayballer67 clearly what the coach is doing is working solid input by you as well
This will be a season defining second half
@kuballin10 said in Squid Game (Thread):
@DCHawker because we canāt stop dribble penetration our on ball defense is weak just like the majority of our athletes
That about sums it up...
@jayballer67 easy when no one else is a threat to score you know basketball 101 have 5 guys on the floor who are legit threats
No gotta have guys who can feed the post!!!
If we make all our shots in the 2nd half we might lose by 15
@BeddieKU23 said in Squid Game (Thread):
If we make all our shots in the 2nd half we might lose by 15
Now we all needed this for a laugh well played
@kuballin10 said in Squid Game (Thread):
@jayballer67 clearly what the coach is doing is working solid input by you as well
ya think ? - -thanks for stopping by. My only thing to say to you is such you are so much better in the Coaching box then as YOU SAY that idiot Coach Self - -way don't you just jog on by the athletic dept and tell them your more then willing to take over the Coaching position -I'm SURE they would love to see you. - -Go aheada I'l wait. - Can't wait for your unbeaten seasons for us can't wait. WOO -HOO - -Thanks for stopping by , & have a great day lmao
@jayballer67 talk basketball or get out....argue with me donāt just say stupid stuff but shouldnāt expect much seen plenty of your useless posts with zero content
@kuballin10 you're stupid
Don't worry guys KUballin to the rescue lol
Kentucky is good, but we are making them looking WAY better than they are. They're 2-1 in their past 3 games, with the wins by 6 and 8 points. And, they lost to Notre Dame.....
@kuballin10 said in Squid Game (Thread):
@jayballer67 talk basketball or get out....argue with me donāt just say stupid stuff but shouldnāt expect much seen plenty of your useless posts with zero content
Why Thank you your just a breathe of fresh air in here appreciate the compliment - -have a great night
Great start
2 possessions - -two turnovers
@jayballer67 said in Squid Game (Thread):
@kuballin10 said in Squid Game (Thread):
@jayballer67 talk basketball or get out....argue with me donāt just say stupid stuff but shouldnāt expect much seen plenty of your useless posts with zero content
Why Thank you your just a breathe of fresh air in here appreciate the compliment - -have a great night
Case and point
Dchawker can keep up
Not athletic enough
Getting exposed by athletic team like last year against usc
Later quickness is poor which plays itself out on D
Cant stop dribble pen because of it and looks like varsity versus jv out there
How would u fix it? Whoās responsible for these deficiencies?
Yay let's pound it to Dave. Gtf out of here
KJ
Got it down to 19
Great defense dave
@BeddieKU23 bill gonna bill he just doesnāt have doke
Thank youJW
Kj no minutes until second half lol wow
17
@jayballer67 said in Squid Game (Thread):
Are we putting a new 5 on the floor to make it a different 2nd half
Just trying to stay positive. Easy to be negative.
@tis4tim said in Squid Game (Thread):
@jayballer67 said in Squid Game (Thread):
Are we putting a new 5 on the floor to make it a different 2nd half
Just trying to stay positive. Easy to be negative.
No doubt me lol
Keep chipping away
Ochai does standing around....and making lazy passes...
Afh gonna have time save us wish we had this for the tourney
Och, come on
Jalen defense is offensive
@jayballer67 who threw those passes....
Gotta make them earn the buckets
Nice bucket by braun
@DanR said in Squid Game (Thread):
Gotta make them earn the buckets
Not sure we know how to or are capable of doing that...
@tis4tim said in Squid Game (Thread):
@kuballin10 said in Squid Game (Thread):
No doubt me lol
Me too. Trying to look more for the good.
Och air ball no doubt nba guys watching against nba athletes
Iām fine with kJ fouling out
Great shot och
Ochai 1-7 and 1 rebound...
Looks like Och has too much hesitation with all his shots
Gonna be the worst loss in selfs era at home
Looking demoralized. First time for this squad I think.
@BeddieKU23 16 losses right?
They have 13 more RBs and 10 more FTAs...
Braun is playing hard
@RockChalkinTexas said in Squid Game (Thread):
@BeddieKU23 16 losses right?
Yup. 25 pts to Tejas last yr. We definitely on pace for that
@jayballer67 come on dog u wanna talk basketball and strategy or continue with your useless kuballin to the rescue sarcasm because you canāt watch and analyze a game and have nothing else to then say
Still waiting for the real Ochai to show up
Maybe Tuesday he will show
@BShark said in Squid Game (Thread):
Donāt think blow outs are going to happen too much the rest of the way.
Def not the kind of blow out I was hoping for :-(
Kids bball. Sounds like itās going to be a brutal replay tonight
Seems like we just one of these type of games every year. - -got to suck it up and play through this be competitive, Big 12 as a whole failed to show today
3 TOs in the 1st half - 4 already this half. All bad passes...
@approxinfinity worse than that š„ŗ
Come on Ochai now or never to take over
@approxinfinity said in Squid Game (Thread):
Kids bball. Sounds like itās going to be a brutal replay tonight
Don't watch. Don't do it to yourself
OCH
@StLJhawk said in Squid Game (Thread):
@BShark said in Squid Game (Thread):
Donāt think blow outs are going to happen too much the rest of the way.
Def not the kind of blow out I was hoping for :-(
one of those nights
@jayballer67 said in Squid Game (Thread):
Seems like we just one of these type of games every year. - -got to suck it up and play through this be competitive, Big 12 as a whole failed to show today
Does Christmas break start tomorrow?
@approxinfinity said in Squid Game (Thread):
Kids bball. Sounds like itās going to be a brutal replay tonight
Flush the tape, pal.
@tis4tim said in Squid Game (Thread):
@jayballer67 said in Squid Game (Thread):
Seems like we just one of these type of games every year. - -got to suck it up and play through this be competitive, Big 12 as a whole failed to show today
Does Christmas break start tomorrow?
must be
Could have called a trav3l instead of 3 sec
Yay
Ok. Chip away.
If we can force Cal to call a timeout
š
BOOM
14
Here we go. A little spark. Gotta turn it into a raging fire.
Shheeebway foul
Keep. Sawing. Wood.
Shoot that first three braun
BOBBY
If only Braun was a good shooter
Hack on the board, ref
Get it under 10 by the under 8 TO and we got a shot.
Got get this under ten and let the phog have a chance to roll in
A guy that I hadn't really figured on hurting us Big time - - -Brooks has been a pain in the butt
Come on boys. KJ needs more PT hes gonna be good.
@jayballer67 said in Squid Game (Thread):
A guy that I hadn't really figured on hurting us Big time - - -Brooks has been a pain in the butt
Nobody guards him. Every point he has is an open shot or dunk
@Zabudda said in Squid Game (Thread):
Come on boys. KJ needs more PT hes gonna be good.
Doing great right now
@BeddieKU23 said in Squid Game (Thread):
@jayballer67 said in Squid Game (Thread):
A guy that I hadn't really figured on hurting us Big time - - -Brooks has been a pain in the butt
Nobody guards him. Every point he has is an open shot or dunk
Very true - -been a sore spot all year our defense
uh oh Bobby in
If only KJ played in the first 20.... beyond puzzling
The difference in the game is FTs and rebounding. They have 10 more points at the FT line...
Maybe the sight of his own blood will light a fire under Ochais ass
Bad
@BeddieKU23 said in Squid Game (Thread):
If only KJ played in the first 20.... beyond puzzling
KJ!!!!!! Am i turning ya'll into believers?
Brooks with 23
Lol this lineup
This is a bad stretch
Jalen is karen
So much for momentum...
Yeah mitch is the answer lol
Could use a little urgency on O
Only good thing is that it isn't conference game
Cal the drama queen
Agbaji the worst ft shooter we got
Need a mini-run here before the under 8. Gotta hit FT too.
I donāt think remy practiced this week
Kentucky 12 - -15 from the line - -KU 2 -- 3 - -Kentucky plus 12 on the boards
Gotta get some points here
Bunnies yeesh
Good thing mitch plays
Bunnies!
Gotta turn right around and play Monday at Ames . - - We have outscored Kentucky by 4 in the 2nd half - - just buried ourselves in the 1st
We've only drawn 8 fouls on them the entire game....
Of course he gets a career game
@DCHawker said in Squid Game (Thread):
We've only drawn 8 fouls on them the entire game....
Honestly donāt think itās been poor officiating we just are getting out athleticād
Twelve minutes and we gained four points
At least Dave is on the bench
Oscar off game really tonight and still has 13 & 9 at this point
They don't even need him
@BeddieKU23 said in Squid Game (Thread):
Good thing mitch plays
Lightfoot: 4 pts 2 reb
Mccormack: 3 pts 1 reb.
Not a ringing endorsement but what do you do?
@RockChalkinTexas said in Squid Game (Thread):
Of course he gets a career game
Well, there is a pattern here. Bunch of guys have career games against us, because they can. Our defense is porous....
@tis4tim said in Squid Game (Thread):
@BeddieKU23 said in Squid Game (Thread):
Good thing mitch plays
Lightfoot: 4 pts 2 reb
Mccormack: 3 pts 1 reb.Not a ringing endorsement but what do you do?
Bill was wanting 20 and twelve out of that position.
@BeddieKU23 said in Squid Game (Thread):
They don't even need him
no they don't just a baad night. like some of said we need more athletic team - Uk just better athletes
Not even shooting freebies yet
Was Remy guarding someone shorter than he was?
Och. Maybe not player of the year
Brooks averages 10.2 ppg and has 27
Welp.
Well, this is remyā s chance to play hero ball
Pathetic
@jayballer67 said in Squid Game (Thread):
@DanR said in Squid Game (Thread):
Not even shooting freebies yet
Three free throws for the night
Played against making contact all night. Weird
Waste of a timeout
Go #Chiefs šā¤
See yall Tuesday! Guess we seen what we really are
Not the end of the world , BUT also tells you were not a true sious threat. - we come up against athletic team you see the result
I hope this is not the opposite of last weekend sports wise
@DanR said in Squid Game (Thread):
I hope this is not the opposite of last weekend sports wise
The Chiefs better hope to GOD Jamarr Chase doesn't do an encore
@DanR said in Squid Game (Thread):
I hope this is not the opposite of last weekend sports wise
Iāve had a bad feeling since this morning about that exact scenario. Halfway home. ā¹ļø
Still time?
Start kj. Don't be stupid self
Why isnāt Wilson out there
It's okay that Kentucky is playing well but it is that we cannot do anything about it.
kind of tels you what Coach thinks of Daves play in this game huh - -hasn't played except for the start they said like 2 minutes
Babies leaving. Nice
Yank time for Joe
Just a failure in every way. Big picture too
I hate seeing them laugh at us.
Very disappointed in Ochai tonight.
Based on this game, their Big O may now have a big leg up on our Big O for POY....
Wow. Donāt even know where to start on this.
We can only hope this is a huge motivator
When we gt beat this bad -I don't even get worked up -- no reason. Lot worse when we lead for almost an entire game and then lose it to someone. - Of course that hasn't happened much but just sayin. Bout the only thing you can say about this is - - - -WELP
The Curse of #GameDay
@Zabudda said in Squid Game (Thread):
I hate seeing them laugh at us.
We had every chance to prevent that and we did nothing. Maybe getting humiliated will change things a bit. We can only hope.
time to bust open some Platinum
A good wake up call for sure. I still think these guys are playing at 80% most of the time
They have 17 rebound advantage. Needed a big team effort and didn't get it.
Mitch still working
the only positive if there can be is- - not a league game
Mitch put in more effort to go after rebounds in 30 seconds than Dave did during all of his minutes.....
Please work on layups.
At least this is not a tournament game
There is a tomorrow
Well, they didn't get to the century mark on us.....
Decent d second half considering cal kept the starters in
Still have starters in
We had 0 answers for them athletically. MUST get MJ Rice to Lawrence.
The question is⦠How can Bill self and the team use thisā¦
Holy crap
Iād like to play them again for the championship
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@Bosthawk said in Squid Game (Thread):
The question is⦠How can Bill self and the team use thisā¦
Holy crap
I just don't know, this team can't just magically get more athletic. Remy doesn't answer that either. Joe does to an extent but that ship has sailed in regards to pt.
Whipped our entire ass. Oh well.
@BShark said in Squid Game (Thread):
We had 0 answers for them athletically. MUST get MJ Rice to Lawrence.
Why would he after seeing that
@BShark said in Squid Game (Thread):
@Bosthawk said in Squid Game (Thread):
The question is⦠How can Bill self and the team use thisā¦
Holy crapI just don't know, this team can't just magically get more athletic. Remy doesn't answer that either. Joe does to an extent but that ship has sailed in regards to pt.
Very reminiscent of the USC beatdown....
@BeddieKU23 Idk have fun play 30 minutes a night. Hope we can beat the GLeague offer.
This just sucked.
Being a fan can sometimes just be flat out painful.
Wish they were playing tomorrow and can beat the crap out of somebody, anybody, just took wash the stench out of my being
Hoping for a better outcome tomorrow. GO CHIEFS !
We just have no 5 men.
The takeaway from this game for me is we need more talent. Remy was not the answer in this game either it's not like he is super athletic. Thankful that we (hopefully) have 3 5*s coming in and Zuby is no slouch. Could use another guard though.
Kentucky only scored 39 in the 2nd half and we still lost by 18. We got problems
@BeddieKU23 said in Squid Game (Thread):
Kentucky only scored 39 in the 2nd half and we still lost by 18. We got problems
We have extreme problems in the paint and off the bounce. Not gonna get better this year.
@DCHawker and that falls on one mans shoulders and when he has the athletes he has to play them over his system loving guys who may be in the right place more but doesnāt matter not athletic enough to make the playoffs anyways
We can win 80% of the time or more be close for big 12 and choke in tourney
Or
Bill can actually look at what happened and adjust instead of just talking about it
@kuballin10 said in Squid Game (Thread):
@tis4tim play KJ maybe in the first halfā¦
As good a coach as Self is, his stubbornness never ceases to rile me up. We know how he does his rotations and he simply wonāt change no matter if it is warranted or not.
Remy, Yes, and KJ are going to get limited run at best this season and if you think recruits donāt take note of how Self plays his cards then Iāve got a bridge Iād like to sell you.
I sometimes long for the days when Roy would throw his sport coat into the first few rows and yank all his starters to send a message.
Really besides trying kj, who else is there?
@Crimsonorblue22 said in Squid Game (Thread):
Really besides trying kj, who else is there?
Not trying, commitment
@kuballin10 said in Squid Game (Thread):
@BShark funny how all those kenpom offensive rankings that were over inflated are coming down to earth. Anyone with an eye could see who this team is and their limitations
The answers are not on the roster though. Maybe Joe with more time but it's very clear that Remy is not the answer athletically either. Can't take guys off the bounce except sometimes after he completely sucks the air out of the ball and can't defend.
The only reason they were 17-2 with such limitations was because of Bill. My biggest gripe is that Mitch plays too much but other than that it's been about as good as we could hope for considering the roster.
If you are good Bill will play you, Dotson played 1168 minutes as a FR and you can find other examples easily. I am guessing Udeh will have a chance to start at the 5, he is what Self looks for in a 5 man. So hopefully the post issues are solved given we go from Dave/Mitch/KJ to then hopefully Udeh/Zuby/Zach/KJ. Zach with an offseason should hopefully add some strength which is his biggest issue right now (aside from being hurt). I am still not convinced JWill comes back at all.
Is Zach healthy?
He doesn't have an answer at the 5 unless he lives with the fact, that he will have to live with the fact he has guys that will be young
@BeddieKU23 No. Still wearing a boot.
@tis4tim exactly farmer, bshark, ryan Noel OTOS.....all of them canāt deny that Bills stubbornness in his ways does turn recruits off. They watch, they see and other coaches sell against him on this.
Does it mean heās never played a freshman, no. No need to exaggerate but for almost 20 years there are plenty of better athletes and players that sat behind lesser players who āknew the systemā
This is 100% on coach and after his usc press conference I thought heās got it heās gonna be a saban and make the adjustments
I was wrong which sucks
Give Joe, Harrisā leash and weād be a completely different team with him at the point. He can defend the ball and beat his man off the dribble.
Mitch has had some great minutes, bleeds red and blue but give KJ all of Mitchās minutes and see where weād be.
I agree part of this isnāt fixable but in no way did Self do everything in his power to maximize the efficiency of this team. If heās all about defense like he says then no
way he watched this team for months and thought this is gonna give us the best chance to win.
@kuballin10 said in Squid Game (Thread):
Give Joe, Harrisā leash and weād be a completely different team with him at the point. He can defend the ball and beat his man off the dribble.
Mitch has had some great minutes, bleeds red and blue but give KJ all of Mitchās minutes and see where weād be.
I agree part of this isnāt fixable but in no way did Self do everything in his power to maximize the efficiency of this team. If heās all about defense like he says then no
way he watched this team for months and thought this is gonna give us the best chance to win.
Your idea to fix today was to play a guy who had 0 rebounds in 11 minutes all of the minutes of a guy who had 7 rebounds in 13 minutes in a game where KU got their ass kicked on the glass? Clearly that's the fix. KJ has a sub 10% defensive rebound rate. That's not going cut it to fix the issues of a below average rebounding team. Also, Yesufu is not the answer at PG. His PER is 5.9 on the year which is beyond terrible and has a turnover rate of 22% which is actually worse than Harris.
@Texas-Hawk-10 KJ the same guy who delivered big against tech the best team weād played prior to Kentucky? Yeah after that 20 point beatdown in the first half you bet KJ getting a few minutes was worth whatever āriskā u presume we lose by not having Dave and Mitch in there to lose rebounds.
You give the most athletic guard on the team the keys and let him go (not including och). He consistently beats his man off the dribble and is athletic enough to stop dribble penetration.
You are 100% correct his turnovers are terrible with pers because if he makes any mistake ANY (wrong switch, poor help, wasnāt in the right position, turns it over) he is immediately pulled even if he just checked in.
You played a sport before? Iāll assume so because you know that if you make one mistake youāre yanked versus the less athletic and talented guy who can make a million and stays in the game....answer me how youād play?
Tentative and scared is the answer with zero confidence and āhopingā not to make a mistake.
Blowout loss to nova in final 4
Blowout loss to auburn
Blowout loss to usc
Blowout loss to athletic UK
We shall see how the season ends but if itās another round of 32 or sweet 16 blowout I sure hope Self actually matures and doesnāt āoh not gonna look at this gameā
@kuballin10 said in Squid Game (Thread):
@Texas-Hawk-10 KJ the same guy who delivered big against tech the best team weād played prior to Kentucky? Yeah after that 20 point beatdown in the first half you bet KJ getting a few minutes was worth whatever āriskā u presume we lose by not having Dave and Mitch in there to lose rebounds.
You give the most athletic guard on the team the keys and let him go (not including och). He consistently beats his man off the dribble and is athletic enough to stop dribble penetration.
You are 100% correct his turnovers are terrible with pers because if he makes any mistake ANY (wrong switch, poor help, wasnāt in the right position, turns it over) he is immediately pulled even if he just checked in.
You played a sport before? Iāll assume so because you know that if you make one mistake youāre yanked versus the less athletic and talented guy who can make a million and stays in the game....answer me how youād play?
Tentative and scared is the answer with zero confidence and āhopingā not to make a mistake.
Blowout loss to nova in final 4
Blowout loss to auburn
Blowout loss to usc
Blowout loss to athletic UK
We shall see how the season ends but if itās another round of 32 or sweet 16 blowout I sure hope Self actually matures and doesnāt āoh not gonna look at this gameā
Sorry, but handing the keys to an undersized 2 guard and a guy who couldn't even start a Drake last season is clearly the answer at PG. And in regards to KJ, a guy who has no offensive game and is an absolutely terrible defensive rebounder for a guy who pretty exclusively plays the 5 is not the answer for KU's issues. I do like him as a defender, but when he can't rebound his position, it pretty much negates his defense though when teams consistently get multiple chances against him and eventually will score.
I'm also fully aware that KU isn't likely making past the 1st weekend again this year. A little history lesson for you. I was about the only person here who said USC was going to blow KU out last year because of their athleticism.
I'm also a basketball coach and just won a district championship today. I'm fully aware about giving a player a short leash in games and it almost always comes down to those players being bad or inconsistent in practice as well leading up that game. Go look at Yesufu's game log from Drake last year, when he came on scoring wise, it was mostly because he became a volume shooter and wasn't very efficient.
I get your obsessed with athleticism, but the upgraded athleticism KU brought in was in the form of low skilled players which creates a different set of issues we're going to see rear its head next season most likely which a very low skilled team. Next season is going to be very rough on offense despite the improved athleticism. Next year might be a worse shooting team than last season and potentially an even worse defensive team as well.
Wow. i think bitch slapped is about the best way to describe today's game.
Unpleasant for sure. exposed us athletically to say the least.
No big insights to share, because really the game said it all.
I know Wheeler and TyTy didn't score a ton today, but who would you rather have on the floor, one of them or Harris?
He's just a liability in more ways than he helps. It sucks to have to say for sure, because he's our guy. I know I hate on Harris a lot, but there should be so many other options on this team other than him. Physically developed guys. Sadly we have really no other PG options on the team. He's it. Well, OK, Pettiford, but he's hurt, and lost some development time.
Undeserved rant on Harris i suppose. He wasn't the only issue today.
Dave's a spaz still.
@Texas-Hawk-10 gradey dick is a terrific shooter! I've watched a few of their games.
@Texas-Hawk-10 congrats on the district title those are memories you wonāt forget.
Yes, the undersized 2 guard id absolutely hand the keys too over what we have done instead. Frank was undersized and out of high school shot it all the time same for devontaeā. You 100% give the guy who has shown his ceiling is incredible the same shot as the guy who will never bring us a title. Joe shot 12/14 and 4/8 for 36 against Evansville. His last 6ā7 games plenty of volume no doubt but why did the coach not know he had this all season? Also, the more he shot he still scored all great players gotta shoot. Joe is plenty athletic and plenty skilled give him the Harris leash and youād see that.
Same with self not identifying ochai right away then getting him here and still redshirting him. Crap went so bad he had no choice but to pull it. Self consistently plays the wrong guys.
You can say practice but someone insiders here say Zach is looking great in practice and then he doesnāt sniff the floor (pre injury).
I understand as a coach you want to see it in practice but when the lights are the brightest how guys perform is more important than practice. I played against a guy who was a great practice player then gets into a game he was awful just brutal. Same was reverse for another player heād be alright in practice but not great get in a game and he could play. Self has his priorities mixed up and itās February and he still canāt get the lineup down.
Yes, KJ I agree has no low post moves and is undersized but heās dunked the last two games more than McCormick has the last 10. You 100% have no other options so play him like heās jamari traylor jr and roll with the proās and cons. Funny if he was traylor heād be starting.
When Braun and Harris are starting over whether it be Grady, mj, pettiford or Joe yeah this and the other ku boards will explode.
Same for bigs because udeh is a stud and zuby is a trob clone. Already has a jumper granted self wonāt let him shoot one 12 footer and if he does heās pulled.
Canāt ever get not pushing guys to be offensive threats and excel at their game versus āplay in my systemā. Your system has one title....one. Your system these last few years are ending in blowout loss and you at a podium making drastic claims about getting bigger and mortgage athletic. Put your money where your mouth is and make the changes.
Congrats on your district championship. Nice.
UK's top five beat our top two. Their guards are from another planet and came to the Phog expecting Buck Rogers but got Earth Girls Are Easy instead. They went straight to the hole to see if their was any resistance and the hole said "Take Me I'm Yours." (Zappa).
The game was a bit demoralizing tbh. In the short picture the Kentucky game meant nothing for the big-12 race. In the big picture it meant so much more. I think when we see limitations that we know are not going away and will be exposed again us fans rarely miss what's coming.
@BeddieKU23 said in Squid Game (Thread):
The game was a bit demoralizing tbh. In the short picture the Kentucky game meant nothing for the big-12 race. In the big picture it meant so much more. I think when we see limitations that we know are not going away and will be exposed again us fans rarely miss what's coming.
It didn't change anything for me either because I expected it and said as much before the game. The team is realistically worse than their record because they are pretty tough and coached by Self.
This will be the last I speak on the UK loss. I am just...kinda surprised how much people (not you obvs but lots of people on 247 and twitter) refuse to see that it might just be that this roster doesn't have the tools. How do you not see the lack of athleticism? I guess it's easier for some people to blame Self than come to terms with the roster. We had no answer for Oscar. Loyalty is Self's biggest strength and weakness at the same time. I still can't believe we didn't go out and try to get a real impact transfer for the interior. It's been remedied for next year but we should have done better than adding Cam Martin. Someone that would have challenged Dave and...more importantly Mitch for minutes.
@BShark Itās who also put that roster together though is it not?
We got more athletic then didnāt play some of those guys I think that seems to be this board and 247ās biggest gripe. Players with lower ceilings after what we just had happen last year getting more minutes than new guys.
Saw online someone said we need a legit power 5 guard to transfer in. Plenty of people replied yeah would be nice to have say the pac 12ās top scorer or something transfer in this offseason that would really help (sarcasm obviously).
Crazy to think we did and instead of using his strengths it became a breakdown him mentally and improve on things heās not great at.
Transfer market will be more difficult moving forward.
I will say I was shocked at the deficit and how poorly we scored and defended. If this was a road game the deficit probably would have been double what it was. Shouldn't have been a game where you needed to amp the kids up but they never met the challenge. We regroup and hopefully learn but its really bad to see this team beaten the way they were and know that's probably how it's going to happen later in the season as well. I'm not giving up hope, I never do but man it felt like our wings got clipped and I was just now realizing it
@kuballin10 said in Squid Game (Thread):
@Texas-Hawk-10 congrats on the district title those are memories you wonāt forget.
Yes, the undersized 2 guard id absolutely hand the keys too over what we have done instead. Frank was undersized and out of high school shot it all the time same for devontaeā. You 100% give the guy who has shown his ceiling is incredible the same shot as the guy who will never bring us a title. Joe shot 12/14 and 4/8 for 36 against Evansville. His last 6ā7 games plenty of volume no doubt but why did the coach not know he had this all season? Also, the more he shot he still scored all great players gotta shoot. Joe is plenty athletic and plenty skilled give him the Harris leash and youād see that.
Same with self not identifying ochai right away then getting him here and still redshirting him. Crap went so bad he had no choice but to pull it. Self consistently plays the wrong guys.
You can say practice but someone insiders here say Zach is looking great in practice and then he doesnāt sniff the floor (pre injury).
I understand as a coach you want to see it in practice but when the lights are the brightest how guys perform is more important than practice. I played against a guy who was a great practice player then gets into a game he was awful just brutal. Same was reverse for another player heād be alright in practice but not great get in a game and he could play. Self has his priorities mixed up and itās February and he still canāt get the lineup down.
Yes, KJ I agree has no low post moves and is undersized but heās dunked the last two games more than McCormick has the last 10. You 100% have no other options so play him like heās jamari traylor jr and roll with the proās and cons. Funny if he was traylor heād be starting.
When Braun and Harris are starting over whether it be Grady, mj, pettiford or Joe yeah this and the other ku boards will explode.
Same for bigs because udeh is a stud and zuby is a trob clone. Already has a jumper granted self wonāt let him shoot one 12 footer and if he does heās pulled.
Canāt ever get not pushing guys to be offensive threats and excel at their game versus āplay in my systemā. Your system has one title....one. Your system these last few years are ending in blowout loss and you at a podium making drastic claims about getting bigger and mortgage athletic. Put your money where your mouth is and make the changes.
I'm sorry, but I can't completely get on board with your vision. Your vision goes too far to the other extreme to me than what KU's dealingwith now. There's a reason why Calipari has the same number of national titles as Self does and it seems like that's what you'd rather see.
In regards to Yesufu, I will almost guarantee his coach knew Yesufu was capable of going off and those 30 point games came against an Evansville team that was 9-16 last year. Against better teams, Yesufu's stats came at the expense of winning games. Yesufu started Drake's last 7 games and Drake only went 4-3 in those games. His production was nice, but not at the expense of winning games and Yesufu didn't make Drake a better team. That's kind of the hallmark of volume shooters is that their individual success frequently comes at the expense of team success. And no, I'm not convinced we'd see Yesufu light it up if he played as much as Harris considering Yesufu has made 2 FG's since December started.
With Clemence, we've seen enough of him in games to know that he cannot play defense at this point. Whatever offensive skill he has, doesn't make up for just how bad a defender he is at this point.
In regards to your KJ and Jamari comparison, that might be the best comparison for KJ, but Jamari Traylor was never a permanent starter for Self and never averaged more than 20 minutes per game in any season. Traylor actually only played 13 minutes per game his senior season. Your recollection and claims about how Jamari was treated by Self don't match the reality of what happened with Traylor.
I am excited about this incoming freshmen class because there is a genuine upgrade in athleticism, but I'm also tempering my expectations because we don't know if MJ Rice is actually going ever play a game for KU and that would be a huge blow to this class if he ends up deciding to go pro instead. Rice is the guy Self has to do whatever to make sure he gets to campus because he's the guy in this class that is a scorer. I like Gradey Dick, but he's much more of a shooter than a scorer and therefore much easier to guard than a player like Rice is. I also like Udeh and think he'll develop into a great player, but he's also extremely raw on offense and will be a liability on the offensive end his first couple of seasons.
I'm also not as enamored with Zuby as you are and pretty strongly disagree about the T-Rob comparison. Zuby has a solid offensive foundation, but like Clemence is a liability on defense and I don't think he cracks the rotation next season. T-Rob was never a very skilled offensive player and was an elite defender. That's not what Zuby is as a player.
Udeh has about as much skill as Udoka coming in. Fortunately, he is also an absolute load physically.
Zuby has "projectible" skills at this point and you have to hope he continues to develop. The foundation is there though, he can become a solid shooter.
@BShark said in Squid Game (Thread):
Udeh has about as much skill as Udoka coming in. Fortunately, he is also an absolute load physically.
Zuby has "projectible" skills at this point and you have to hope he continues to develop. The foundation is there though, he can become a solid shooter.
My biggest fear is that Harris is so unthreatening offensively that having another Doke won't even matter. If we can't draw a help side defender then you can't get the ball to him. We see it now, with Dave. Harris is one of the worst kinds of offensive deficiencies because he isn't a threat at any point in time on offense. Can't take his guy 1v1 and he can't shoot well enough to hold a weakside defender. We have 3 more years of watching him start over superior players. What's worse is that I will be SHOCKED if we land a Top 20 PG with him on this team. This Remy situation is going to be used against us for years (and probably should be).
@Kcmatt7 said in Squid Game (Thread):
@BShark said in Squid Game (Thread):
Udeh has about as much skill as Udoka coming in. Fortunately, he is also an absolute load physically.
Zuby has "projectible" skills at this point and you have to hope he continues to develop. The foundation is there though, he can become a solid shooter.
My biggest fear is that Harris is so unthreatening offensively that having another Doke won't even matter. If we can't draw a help side defender then you can't get the ball to him. We see it now, with Dave. Harris is one of the worst kinds of offensive deficiencies because he isn't a threat at any point in time on offense. Can't take his guy 1v1 and he can't shoot well enough to hold a weakside defender. We have 3 more years of watching him start over superior players. What's worse is that I will be SHOCKED if we land a Top 20 PG with him on this team. This Remy situation is going to be used against us for years (and probably should be).
Ouch. Nailed my thoughts here. Kansas reporters were taking still shots of nobody guarding Harris last night on the perimeter and posting on twitter. It's there for everyone to see every game and people are speaking about. Kentucky was shading a 2nd defender to stop our wings from driving. It's just good coaching to do what Cal did. Every coach should. Harris isn't magically going to score 25 and make you pay. Just handling the ball and moving it. Crazy
Bobby being hurt and ill will have more unintended consequences then we can survive. He needed time on the court to become trusted and now is so far away from it with what's happened. Meanwhile Harris gains more unwavering support from his coach with the minutes he plays and the remy situation being a complete mess. Will be used against Bobby going into next yr too.
@BeddieKU23 Do you have links to that? Would love to see
A few popped up during the game that i could not find now. Here's a few
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Vernon took one
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@BeddieKU23 As they should. Bill needs to get the memo. Agree on Bobby as well. Hoping against hope that he keeps getting some minutes down the stretch.
@BeddieKU23 said in Squid Game (Thread):
A few popped up during the game that i could not find now. Here's a few
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Vernon took one
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Notice, no one that needs to worry about having access to Self lol.
@BeddieKU23 this is going to make me rewatch this game.
Masochism I know, but I'm really curious now. Won't be the last time this happens and I don't know what the counter is other than to play Remy 35 mpg. Which won't happen.
So if reporters can see it and message board dorks like us can see it what is Self seeing?
Or assuming he sees it because he watches more film than any of us what is he doing to counter it like a great coach would?
Joe with coaches confidence can do three major things better than Harris.
1) stop dribble penetration
2) get into the paint (we saw the lobs to McCormack in Orlando the second he came in)
3) shoot it better than Harris
He isnāt Frank but he can do everything Harris is doing at a better level if given the confidence.
Clemence is bad defensively but better offensively. We are bad with Mitch on d so at least have some O.
Traylor - great points I thought he played more youāre right on here I double checked
Recruits - if they donāt get the leash they wonāt develop and 10-12 games in self will say should have played them more. Itās a cycle. He wins and manages but the blowout losses are exposing some cracks.
Zuby - saw highlights - his jumper looks identical to trob. 6-8 215....trob 6-8 222. Both plenty athletic can run rim to rim.
Trob had some offensive skill the game was too fast. I remember a move at missery on the block he did and traveled but it was nice and you could tell heās close to getting it. Pair that with his 12-15 foot jumper and he was money. I see similarities in body style and play just need a little time.