Can he save his job? No. We good.
Listening to some sports talks and hearing his beat writer and talk is more like the only way they think he can save his job is to make the tourney. - Here is a news flash- - they not making any tourney this year not any NCAA tourney.
I'm taking KU to cover the spread tonight - - -12. I think it will be that maybe more
Let's win by 30
KSU played the game of their life in the first game and still lost. :writing_hand:
@BeddieKU23 Happy 2-22-22 !
Let's win by (at least) 22
@BShark said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
KSU played the game of their life in the first game and still lost. :writing_hand:
Ya they did. Had to laugh was listening to Weber he was comparing them with how Kentucky played us in the 1st half - -ummm they not Kentucky
I'm still smarting from last night's Sportscenter w/Scott Van Pelt. Our scoreless last 5 minutes against OSU last week got the Bad Beats treatment. Painful to see that again (and I like Van Pelt.) Hope tonight's game washes out the bad taste from that one.
Dam Izzo's team just getting blistered by Iowa by 32
Glad we didn't get Tyson Walker. Sparty is gettin' smoked...
@Jethro said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
Glad we didn't get Tyson Walker. Sparty is gettin' smoked...
SMOKED
@jayballer67 Smoked Izzo...on the menu tonite...
@Jethro said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
Glad we didn't get Tyson Walker. Sparty is gettin' smoked...
He probably would have been fine, better than Remy maybe. But there is a cautionary tale here with all these midmajor kids that took a step up to play right away. He isn't the only one that saw a big numbers dip.
Let's go #Jayhawks ā¤š
Silo Tech, come take your beating...
Last one out of the gym in Columbia turn off the lights.
who is the blowhard that won't shut up on ESPN scoreboard? Good grief.
Is everyone else still seeing the studio talk msu Iowa? Or am I on the wrong stream.
Jeeze. Finally cut away from that yacking
Ok here we go.
Franā¦..
Damn
Was Fran the guy with the play by play of the Howard/Gard rumble?
Uniforms???
Pretty groovy threads.
Posting Braun. Love it.
CB is gonna go off
Wow cb
That floater is coming along.
take a deep breath Big Dave
@DanR said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
take a deep breath Big Dave
Needs a few runs up and down the floor to get tired enough to play good.
Unis for LaVannes Squires
Black Excellence Heritage
it's 7-7 no?
Should be.
7-5 here
Yeah but KSU has actually scored 7
there it is. Let me keep score
Wtf dave
Nice och
Oh god Franā¦.
Shut up fran
Fran go play in dirt man
(It was a bad call)
Was that on them?
@benshawks08 said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
(It was a bad call)
Even so it's one that's often called. Fran just made it theatrical
Jwill should have driven all the way
@BeddieKU23 agreed.
@RockChalkinTexas said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
Jwill should have driven all the way
Thought so as well
@BeddieKU23 he hesitates too much
@BeddieKU23 said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
@RockChalkinTexas said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
Jwill should have driven all the way
Thought so as well
Worry about a turnover when he does that.
I've given up on Jwill driving... probably will prove me wrong tonight.
@RockChalkinTexas said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
@BeddieKU23 he hesitates too much
Think last yr at times he did too much with the drive. Seems like he picks his spots now
@DanR said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
I've given up on Jwill driving... probably will prove me wrong tonight.
??? Itās most of what he does.
@benshawks08 said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
@DanR said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
I've given up on Jwill driving... probably will prove me wrong tonight.
??? Itās most of what he does.
I believe DanR means a good outcome occurring when it happens.
@benshawks08 said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
@DanR said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
I've given up on Jwill driving... probably will prove me wrong tonight.
??? Itās most of what he does.
he drives halfway and kicks it out 90% of the time
Ok. Liked Fran calling the Mitch bucket. Gotta give props for that.
Can't guard the ball again
Wow our defense is putrid right now
@BeddieKU23 right now???
JCL lol.
My Bad. --JCL
Yes it was. --OA
Back to back turnovers. Yikes
Not great!
Wow that's not a foul on ochai
Schiebwe NPOY... I doubt that
we need to run more
DMac
That works
Great run!
See remy?
Perfect use of yes to change the tempo of a game going the wrong way.
Och with 10 already
This is how we do it
KU has the lead with Dave. Mitch comes in, KSU takes the lead. Dave back in...
Dave needed the reboot though
@BShark said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
KU has the lead with Dave. Mitch comes in, KSU takes the lead. Dave back in...
Zach minutes would he welcome against these scrubs
Jcl fouled
UPS
Boards!
JCL better outside than in.
air mail
HaHaHa
This offense is nice when it moves.
Also, those sunflowers are growing on me.
Nowell fired that to Eudora
Nowell does not lack confidence
@FarmerJayhawk said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
@BShark said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
KU has the lead with Dave. Mitch comes in, KSU takes the lead. Dave back in...
Zach minutes would he welcome against these scrubs
I feel like he is clearly the better option. Bill going with the SR though.
@benshawks08 said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
Also, those sunflowers are growing on me.
Not literally I hope.
@nwhawkfan don't go outside
87 today
30 tomorrow
@nwhawkfan said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
@benshawks08 said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
Also, those sunflowers are growing on me.
Not literally I hope.
It's daisies you have to worry about pushing up.
Makes me think about that Jeopardy contestant from KU last week who couldn't name the state flower. Jeez.
Oooo sexy Yessy
Oh my
Joeeee
J-Y jelly !
Actually on a 100 point pace right now...
Lmao Remy got Wally Pippād. Weāll see
Good foul
@DCHawker said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
Actually on a 100 point pace right now...
But also on a pace to give up 80+...
Jcl on a heater
Merry Mitchmas
Everybody is on the board now...
Mitchh
Wow.
wilson to the rack
We are up 12 all the sudden. Donāt need d when the offense is this good.
JCL having a decent game. I don't know where he came from on that last defensive stop. Talking to a cheerleader?
SMACK!
Mitch better be careful on the celebratory gestures. Refs getting mighty touchy nowadays.
@BeddieKU23 said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
@DanR said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
wilson to the rack
Driving and things. Go figure
We called it!
This team just looks soooo much better when we get out and run
Shooting 67% right now...
12 bench points already. Big sign as we try and rest peeps
@BeddieKU23 said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
12 bench points already. Big sign as we try and rest peeps
Yes JCL and Mitch all legit contributing.
Zach time...
@benshawks08 said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
@BeddieKU23 said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
12 bench points already. Big sign as we try and rest peeps
Yes JCL and Mitch all legit contributing.
Joe too
Did anyone see that Tech/OU score? OU only has 29 points with 7:23 left and are down 29 to Tech.
@BeddieKU23 said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
@benshawks08 said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
@BeddieKU23 said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
12 bench points already. Big sign as we try and rest peeps
Yes JCL and Mitch all legit contributing.
Joe too
For me yes=joe
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
Did anyone see that Tech/OU score? OU only has 29 points with 7:23 left and are down 29 to Tech.
Wow they have scored 7 points this half
@benshawks08 said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
@BeddieKU23 said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
@benshawks08 said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
@BeddieKU23 said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
12 bench points already. Big sign as we try and rest peeps
Yes JCL and Mitch all legit contributing.
Joe too
For me yes=joe
Ha missed it. My bad
YES to YES.
7 assists so far - setting the pace and sharing the rock...
Harris got away with a walk there.
Wilson t'd that one up
Bill is cooking KSU with Juan and Mitch lol
Float On
Lol yeah look at the bench Nowell
Zach!!!!
Take out Mitch, move JW to C, and put Joe back in- I dare you@!
Nowell woofing about a bank shot from the corner after two airballs?
Och
wow...i missed it- ZACH!
We are playing so fast!
I don't think the person that designed the uniforms had ever seen a sunflower
That was a weak attempt there Harris.
Joe and Zach on the floor? Is this real?
Oh Jalen
Wow jalen
@FarmerJayhawk it canāt be said enough how bad his feet are on being ready to shoot.
So thought that Zack shot was going in
Leave Joe in...let him get his rhythm...
@Jethro said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
Leave Joe in...let him get his rhythm...
He will Harris has 2 fouls
As long as we keep +10 point advantage, play these guys a bit more and see what happens.
For sure. Can almost always count on the kittens peeing down their legs at Allen
@FarmerJayhawk as long as we keep a hand up on pak
Pack shooting out his ass as usual
Get Dave back in
Dammit guys play some D
Well, that'll do it. Bring in someone who can guard
Confident bank three there.
freaking bank shot...omg.
Late banking hours
Sure banked 3
@BeddieKU23 said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
Sure banked 3
about the only way Massoud is making one
He might have called bank, tbh
16 point lead gone in a heart beat...
mud ball....
Someone guard bizarro enaruna!
Is Och worse at inbounding or throwing lobs?
What the heck was that Och
@benshawks08 said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
Is Och worse at inbounding or throwing lobs?
Equally terrible at both
How
Braun shows up after being invisible for 10 minutes
Really not gonna call that
YES
YES
JOE JOE GUN !
Back to 14
Yes pressures ALL the time on d.
@DanR said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
Braun shows up after being invisible for 10 minutes
He needs someone to piss him off.
Always picks up full court.
@benshawks08 said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
Yes pressures ALL the time on d.
Major spark plug
@benshawks08 said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
Yes pressures ALL the time on d.
Bill Self type guard. Surprised it took until recently for him to get more run.
@BShark said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
@benshawks08 said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
Yes pressures ALL the time on d.
Bill Self type guard. Surprised it took until recently for him to get more run.
That shot lol
@FarmerJayhawk thatāll do it.
@BeddieKU23 just like that
And you know Self wants to annihilate Weber
And this end of half play..
With Bruce half way in the court he almost was 6 man
Cheap one
Good play, just didn't go in and Mitch picked up a foul. Otherwise.
Wow och missed 2 he normally makes
boo
Riddler looking puzzled
Garbage call
Och stop lobbing it you cant
Shoot 22-35 from the floor and 7-13 on 3s - should be up by a lot more than 10....
You hate to see a Hurley ejected
KState has tournament guards and D2 bigs.
Anyone see what Izzo said about doing away with the post game handshake line?
Man up he said. Learn to lose graciously. He's gonna shake air if any other team doesn't want to do it and will go down an imaginary line.
still don't feel comfortable with this 10 point lead at the half
Combined the last half in Manhattan and the first half at the P hog - -KU has put 97 points up against this K State defense
@jayballer67 said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
Combined the last half in Manhattan and the first half at the P hog - -KU has put 97 points up against this K State defense
Holy crap
Och went quiet late in the half
On this date in 2020 we beat Baylor 64-61 in Waco.
Nice to see us maintaining a good flow on the offensive end with the bench guys
@RockChalkinTexas said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
On this date in 2020 we beat Baylor 64-61 in Waco.
Little did we knowā¦
@FarmerJayhawk they were #1
Nova going down
@jayballer67 said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
@BeddieKU23 said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
Nova going down
Awww that hurts me lol
Uconn with a big win on a controversial charge call
Is Self saving Big Mas for some reason?
@jessejayhawk said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
Is Self saving Big Mas for some reason?
Can't guard their lineup tonight
@BeddieKU23 said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
@jayballer67 said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
@BeddieKU23 said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
Nova going down
Awww that hurts me lol
Uconn with a big win on a controversial charge call
I'll allow it. Screw Nova.
@BeddieKU23 said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
@jessejayhawk said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
Is Self saving Big Mas for some reason?
Can't guard their lineup tonight
A fact regardless of our big.
@BShark said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
@BeddieKU23 said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
@jayballer67 said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
@BeddieKU23 said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
Nova going down
Awww that hurts me lol
Uconn with a big win on a controversial charge call
I'll allow it. Screw Nova.
I'll allow it for infinity
Ochai just passed Wilt in career scoring. (Yeah, I know Wilt only played two years, but still...)
Weird shot
DAVEY BUCKETS
did Bill Walton design our unis?
Dave that was nice
@Jethro said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
did Bill Walton design our unis?
Yupp they gave him edibles and a sharpie
Keep firing away
@FarmerJayhawk might need 90 to win.
What's the foul when he's under the hoop
@benshawks08 said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
@FarmerJayhawk might need 90 to win.
True dat. Defense has been⦠bleh
Dave flailing almost worked.
How
How do they not call that obvious foul on the lay in from Braun. That ALWAYS gets called.
Braun having a game
K-State hit by a Braun Out
Holy Smoly
@RockChalkinTexas said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
On this date in 2020 we beat Baylor 64-61 in Waco.
This was the last KU game I attended in person. It was by far the best KU game I've attended because it was a great atmosphere and KU held on to win. I'm very much hoping history repeats itself on Saturday which will be the next KU game I attend in person.
@benshawks08 said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
How do they not call that obvious foul on the lay in from Braun. That ALWAYS gets called.
Yeah I thought he was gonna go to the line there. Clear and one.
Today is dtae's bday!
Cb matching och with 15 now
Who else hates Dr Pepper commercials?
@mayjay said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
Who else hates Dr Pepper commercials?
I hate...commercials in general.
@Texas-Hawk-10 You represent ALL us #Bucketeers who won't be there.
@approxinfinity He needs to be appointed Ambassador!
Uconn stormed the court?
@DanR said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
Uconn stormed the court?
Some people would trade places with them because they have an extra title.
harris with the scoop
Whatever
No Bobby?
Thought Pack snapped his femur, then he jumped up. OK.
Whatyy
Sniper!
Who was that foul on?
@RockChalkinTexas said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
@BShark Don't hold back
Assuming they are gonna shut Bobby down and perhaps some finality to the Remy situation
@BeddieKU23 said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
@benshawks08 said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
Who was that foul on?
Wind.
The uniforms
I heard he would only play in emergency situation. Couldn't hurt it any further.
@BeddieKU23 but for real. Who has another foul on their personal foul count?
@benshawks08 said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
@BeddieKU23 but for real. Who has another foul on their personal foul count?
Mitch
@BeddieKU23 said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
@RockChalkinTexas said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
@BShark Don't hold back
Assuming they are gonna shut Bobby down and perhaps some finality to the Remy situation
This is a good assumption.
@Crimsonorblue22 said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
I heard he would only play in emergency situation. Couldn't hurt it any further.
This is true but he can barely move. Tough though, wants to be available cause we are so thin at guard.
CB wut
Our guys are tournament ready, Baby!
Great scouting report d from Mitch there denying the three from pak.
a lot of time left to be doing stupid stuff
Lol Wilson didn't even try there
Good timeout Bill
Woof. Can we try to win by 25 instead of 2?
@approxinfinity said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
Woof. Can we try to win by 25 instead of 2?
Starters trying to hog playing time.
no reason to let the grapes smell single digits
That helps
Pack and Nowell have 29. No excuses
Och a killa
Saw Kevin Young behind bench!
we're on pace for about 110, and we might need them all
Are we scoring BETTER this half??
Wow 10 3s
Malik has had a couple monster games in G League
Another Bangarang game. Self will hate it lol.
Going to crush the over-under of 142 tonight.
Och with his 3rd straight 20 pt game. Beasting again
@BShark said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
Another Bangarang game. Self will hate it lol.
Real reason Self never went to the NBA. Too much scoring
wilson to the rack again
Dunk that Yes. Show us the vertical
Wow what a rip and run
Wow Yesufu your crazy
yes looks like dd...
On pace for 120
probably won't break 100 though
Yesufu gonna be a big piece the next 2 yrs
Nice hot dog move, then misses the FT. LOL
Nowell seems like a fun guy though
@BeddieKU23 said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
Yesufu gonna be a big piece the next 2 yrs
That penetrate and kick to JCL :heart_suit:
Not afraid to pull it.
No conscience
JO3S3PH Y3SUFU
Lob to the 3rd row
Mo' Joe....
Self does not need to coach yes on being aggressiveā¦
Yesufu has tied his season high with 9
@benshawks08 said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
Self does not need to coach yes on being aggressiveā¦
But but but I was told he was a shell of himself because Bill is such a big meanie
Mercy wish we could bag and save some of this for later. - -just a quick glance Bench really productive tonight I have them for at least 24 points
Amazing what happens when the lightbulb kicks in. Yesufu has started to show why he was so good at drake
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Interesting
Graham maybe?
Being up 20 plus makes listening to fran easier
MITCH SNATCHED A SOUL
Mitch made a free throw...watch out for lightening
DUAL GUARDS ALERT
Might be the last time Mitch gets to beat Kstate.
@BeddieKU23 said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
Amazing what happens when the lightbulb kicks in. Yesufu has started to show why he was so good at drake
He wasn't consistently good though at Drake. Consistency has always been the biggest knock on Yesufu. He's been good tonight and Saturday, but the 2 games before that he wasn't good.
Mitch having his shining moment
No one gives away anything in lawrence for breaking 100, 90, 80 whatever
What a feed
@DanR said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
No one gives away anything in lawrence for breaking 100, 90, 80 whatever
Only giveaway is free Wangs if we win by >40
MITCH
Charge magnet, that lightfoot fella
Och!!!!!
Hope the last five minutes aren't like the OSU game
Get to a hundo before the u4
I really want the chant to be LOUD
Och did redshirt, then they pulled it.
Dive
Lolz
This lineup can't score
Dang it
I agree with the crowd, I want Teahan as well!
@FarmerJayhawk I thought you had it.
Let's go on a 20-0 run to end the game.
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
I agree with the crowd, I want Teahan as well!
Last one against KSU for him, fire away young lad!
Well Weber can't complain about the fouls so what's his excuse?
@RockChalkinTexas But he will
We should wear new threads every night.
One away!
Starters still in aight
Isnāt part of that just his shooting form?
put the scrubs in. these guys are done
@benshawks08 said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
Isnāt part of that just his shooting form?
pretty much every shot he takes. Ridiculous
Make way for the lemon parade⦠make way for McGuirlā¦
Hahaha good stuff CB
Fran!š¤®
CB FOR THE C-NOTE
Lol you get it CB
Hard to believe we've only hit 100 twice against KSU all time now.
GET IT TO THE GINGER
Dang it teehan
TEAHAN YA BLEW IT
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
Hard to believe we've only hit 100 twice against KSU all time now.
Wild stat
CHANT TIME
Bench Teahan for Jankovich
Bailed out
What in the world is wrong with the fans. CHANT LIKE YOU MEAN IT.
Terrible chant smh
Starting to maybe hear it??
Thats the sound of a chant through n95 masksā¦. Right? :)
Our two highest scoring games against our two biggest rivals.
@Texas-Hawk-10 we are a sleeping giant?
64 and 6 in the last 70 against the Kitties. The natural order of things.
Rock chalk! Big game Saturday.
KSU extends is record lead of losses to a single opponent
Muck Fizzou lost big.
Stay warm!
See you Saturday night.
@RockChalkinTexas said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
Muck Fizzou lost big.
In the least surprising story of the night...
Nite all ! Til Saturday...
We can't play D like this sat.
Anyone got the ppp stats for this game?
We are a machine. In turnovers.
JCL can really shoot. Surprised? No.
1927 Kansas is 50 years old. The guv decided the school children would select the state flower and state bird. My mom's in the second grade and walks to school in rural (it's mainly all rural) Anderson County. She decided to use what she saw while on her way to school as her choices. It's a winner.
We shot a higher overall FG% and 3PT% than from the line. Lol.
Nice game!!
Self said after Dave's foot was sore during the game. Looked it too
@Crimsonorblue22 said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
We can't play D like this sat.
Are Baylors guards even that good? Not sure they are...
@benshawks08 said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
@BShark Purple guards going to be a nightmare for a while. That Pak kid can fill it up and the other one is super quick.
All of them will be gone after this year. Tough scene.
Fun fact of the day
KU has now won 64 of the last 70 meetings against K-St.
@BShark said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
@Crimsonorblue22 said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
We can't play D like this sat.
Are Baylors guards even that good? Not sure they are...
@BShark said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
@Crimsonorblue22 said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
We can't play D like this sat.
Are Baylors guards even that good? Not sure they are...
All of them are injured as well. Baylor fans are not very optimistic.
So this was my first test run of watching the 8PM games in the morning. Tbh, thoroughly enjoyed itā¦.
Now, my goodness. If anyone was worried about what this team would do if they played an up tempo team in the tourney, you just got a taste. We will run you out of the gym if it is a race to 100.
Sure, we shot out of our minds. Even some guarded ones. But they also shot better from deep than I would have guessed.
23 assists last night. This team is hitting its stride late in the season and Iām still shocked. Idk why Remy would step in the floor at this point, and who it would even be for.
That was fun to watch.
Perhaps the most impressive improvement from last years squad to this years is just how filthy this team is when it gets in transition. Guys just fly up the court and push pace. I don't remember the last time we were so good at this particular skill but its fun to watch when its unleashed.
I don't want to say a win on Sat locks in a 1 seed, but it would go a long way to achieving it. If we win out, it won't matter what we do in the B12 tourney.
@BeddieKU23 Arizona has back to back road games coming up against a decent Colorado team and good USC team. If we can win out the regular season I think we still have a shot at the overall #2 seed depending on how Arizona fairs on that road trip.
I agree the #2 overall seed is attainable. If KU wins out they will get it imo. Resume is too strong compared to Arizona
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13 of Arizona's 24 wins are against Quad 3/4 teams. KU has won more Quad 1 games then Arizona has even played in. Big-12 strength gives them another edge.
@BeddieKU23 said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
I agree the #2 overall seed is attainable. If KU wins out they will get it imo. Resume is too strong compared to Arizona
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13 of Arizona's 24 wins are against Quad 3/4 teams. KU has won more Quad 1 games then Arizona has even played in. Big-12 strength gives them another edge.
I expect your assessment is correct, but KU's profile is unlike most years. In our non-conference schedule, we played just two teams that will likely be at-large picks. One is in the middle of the pack in the B10. The other spanked us on our home court. Our overall strength of schedule and number of Quad 1 wins is almost wholly due to the depth of quality in the B12 this year. As HCBS said yesterday, there are no bottom-feeders and easy wins. But, it's not clear that the top of the conference matches other conferences, e.g., SEC and B10. Against the top half of our conference, we've split with TTU, at best can split with UT, no worse that a split with Baylor, and TTU remains to be seen. What we've managed to do is take care of business against the lower half, and those are all Quad 1-2 wins.
I really have no idea of what to expect when playing other top tier teams with different styles - just not much of a track record this year....
I've wondered this, too.
I see our future determined by tempo. When we've really dominated tempo, we win big. Last night... for example. Had we walked the ball up last night it would probably have been a close game.
We pose a real challenge to every team when we can push the ball at the right speed.
I think Joe has been a real lifesaver for us and he's just starting to make the right connection with our offense.
I know there was a lot of talk about our soft non-conference schedule and it was lighter then normal no question there. We don't have a real signature non-con win like some other programs do. Arizona's win at Illinois looks good now since they are ranked (Illinois wasn't ranked when they played). They also beat Michigan (who was #4 when they played) and we've all seen Michigan isn't even an NIT team this year.
It appears the non-conference schedule will not hurt KU when it comes to seeding. KU beat North Texas is 20-4 (1st in Conf USA), Iona is 22-5 (1st in MAAC), Utep 16-11, Stephen F Austin 18-8, & lost to Dayton 19-8 (2nd in Atlantic 10) so there's potentially 2-3 teams from that group that could make the tourney there.
Agree a lot of our strength in resume is due to the Big-12's strength. The 3 leading teams in Quad 1 wins come from the Big-12. KU has benefitted by being in a league that has so many Quad 1 opportunities. It also helps when you don't have half the league with losing records etc.
As for comparing the top half of the Big-12 to other conferences to me that's splitting hairs. The Top 3 teams in the P5 + the Big East normally could take turns beating each other on any given night. Maybe not the ACC this year since its such a down year. Baylor, Tech, Texas were all Top 4 seeds in the mock tournament release last weekend. I'm not surprised we may at best split with those 3 teams in the regular season.
I really have no idea of what to expect when playing other top tier teams with different styles - just not much of a track record this yearā¦
Agree, I have similar concerns. We faced some differing styles in the non-con but for the most part the Big-12 has been the same night in and night out in style. The best offense we played against spanked us at home. That was also their best game of the season. Things happen. The unknown's going into the tourney will have us talkin'
@BShark said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
@Crimsonorblue22 said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
We can't play D like this sat.
Are Baylors guards even that good? Not sure they are...
LJ Cryer shoots 47% from 3 at a pretty high volume and didn't play in the first game.
Well as usual did my regular troll thing of other sides boards , see what they had to say
Here seemed to be most mentioned things : - -# 1 - - -Pretty general consensus it's time for Bruce to go away , seems like pretty much everyone saying that they just will never get any better as long as he is here. - # 2 : Seems to a lot of talk that # 1 - -Pack is going to transfer & Nowell wants to go play pro ball over sea's. - guess he put out a tweet that no matter what team took him-- -they wouldn't regret it. So typical year of K /State losing players - Why ? - -refer back to the # 1 thing I mentioned- -time for Bruce to go.
They just talked about how they could see how the KU kids have grown and developed over their years and that how K/State will never be able to recruit Kansas kids with constantly being in the bottom tier of the league.
Sounds like they might be getting close to having an additional game played - pretty close to getting it done as they try to enhance their chances of getting in the NCAA tourney - -looks like they might be playing BYU - date mentions sounds like might be March 2nd as BYU looking for an additional game also trying to get Tier 1 win. - -just a little FYI from my side of things message to Bruce -- your NOT going to make into the NCAA's - -your just not
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
@BShark said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
@Crimsonorblue22 said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
We can't play D like this sat.
Are Baylors guards even that good? Not sure they are...
LJ Cryer shoots 47% from 3 at a pretty high volume and didn't play in the first game.
He may also not play Saturday again. All 3 of Baylor's guards are dealing with injury
I'm just going to go ahead and throw this out there. Some may think it's a pretty bold statement - -some may think I've been smoking some really good stuff - - & others may think I'm just insane but I'm gonna say it anyways. -
If we play the way we did last night - - if we shoot the way we did last night - -if we get out and run the way w did last night - -Then this team can play with anybody - - I mean ANYBODY. - yes it was K/State - - AND? they usually play pretty solid defense , but I think w had something to do about their defense last night - we just went out and TOOK IT. - So ya their defense didn't look great last night , but maybe - - just maybe it was partly because of how we played - -how we move the ball - - shared the ball - maybe it was partly because our bench showed up last night OR maybe it was a combo of all of the above.
I'm telling you when this team gets out in transition w can be pretty good the flow is smooth the offense is sweet - -the ball doesn't stick , quick crisp passes and the players run - - run - -and run some more and we got the guys that can do that - -Juan - -Jalen - - Joe - -Och - if this team plays like it did last night - -we can be good - -we were good - -we can be scary good. now I know it's not going to be like that every time out BUT
This league a a whole has some of the best defensive teams in the Nation - -we go against hard , aggressive , solid , stout defenses night after night after night and I don't think there are a lot of teams out there defensively that are that much better then what we face all season long. - -Just saying that's all, and offensively we got weapons - -we got all kinds of weapons - -again it sowed last night. Might of been the 1st time ALL YEAR we have really seen what this team is really capable of when we hitting on all cyclinders . - -I'm just sayin call me crazy - been called worse but I think we can be just as scary good as a lot of these others - were not that far off. - - I picked us to cover the 1 last night & it actually ended up right about what I thought- - K/State had no answer even Brucie said that in his post gam - -Were good. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Agree and we can be even better.
Delete the bad passes for god's sake and give me more of that defensive intensity as we're not going to hit 63% from downtown every night out. JCL is a cold blooded assassin.
Love the confidence by JWil on the perimeter.
@BeddieKU23 said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
Agree, I have similar concerns. We faced some differing styles in the non-con but for the most part the Big-12 has been the same night in and night out in style.
Hanging a hundred will pretty much beat any style.
Personally, I don't think Bill gave a whit about the Kentucky game in the bigger picture. He wants to win conference. That game was during a tough five game stretch, right after a difficult Tech win and right before Iowa St. and Baylor. Bill knew a non-con loss to a team like UK would not hurt us in the grand scheme. Considering we are currently projected as a #1 seed, it appears he was right. We went to ISU and won, then curb-stomped Baylor and almost (should have) stole one at Texas. Worked out pretty well, I think.
If we face UK in the tourney, I think the results would be much, much different.
Now having say what I said earlier here I have to say I think everybody realizes that Baylor come Saturday is gonna be loaded for BEAR - -no pun intended there but we could be walking into a Lion's den. -We know they are after revenge, we know we are not going to shoot that kinda of % back to back - -bottom line shouldn't really surprise anyone here IF we do get beat Saturday. I think that's our possible only loss the rest of the Conference I just don't see us losing to TCU either place and I think we will be ready for Texas on when they come to the Phog.
Bottom line Coach and the guys I think wrap up another Conference Championship BUT I'm ready for more then a Conference Championship - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
When we play at our tempo.... our opposition doesn't have time to really set their defense. And when all of our guys keep their feet moving and spread on the floor... it makes it real tough to defend. We aren't going to count on our hotness level moving forward... but we don't need to be that hot to beat most teams.
We improve our chances dramatically if we start playing better defense. In the least... if we can control the boards, we should have a chance in every game.
We have to come "psyched up" for games to keep the tempo we need! Joe is a secret weapon for turning up speed, too. Remy could possibly help some, if we need more energy on the floor.
@drgnslayr I noticed Och was playing with more pace in the k state game. He was sprinting all over the court. I wonder if thereās something to self deciding we will play fast one game and slow it down another. Really hard to figure out how a team that can play the way they did against Baylor and k state would ever play anything different.
I know the announcers in the Baylor game were talking about how many drew was sending to the offensive glass as part of the culprit for our blitz but did Weber do the same?
Is the team more tired after a game like that or a trudge fest where every possession is a slog? I honestly donāt know.
@tis4tim said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
@BeddieKU23 said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
Agree, I have similar concerns. We faced some differing styles in the non-con but for the most part the Big-12 has been the same night in and night out in style.
Hanging a hundred will pretty much beat any style.
Personally, I don't think Bill gave a whit about the Kentucky game in the bigger picture. He wants to win conference. That game was during a tough five game stretch, right after a difficult Tech win and right before Iowa St. and Baylor. Bill knew a non-con loss to a team like UK would not hurt us in the grand scheme. Considering we are currently projected as a #1 seed, it appears he was right. We went to ISU and won, then curb-stomped Baylor and almost (should have) stole one at Texas. Worked out pretty well, I think.
If we face UK in the tourney, I think the results would be much, much different.
I don't think he did either and he said as much before and after. I think that game showed what could happen if a team shoots
out of their minds, KU struggles to score and handle length and athletic ability. All 3 of those things happened unfortunately and it felt like a tourney loss tbh.
I do think this team has improved even since the UK game so I would expect a different result
I've had those ideas going way back... to the Jaybate era.
I still question the possibility. There are still many areas of the game we don't play well... and if it was as easy as flipping a switch... we would flip those switches to perform better (especially on defense).
I do think there are times when Self turns up his voice on his troops.
Thinking back light years to my days playing at a much lower level... My teammates and I always felt great after a big win and turning up the intensity (over a game less intense). But the next day we were definitely slower, needing more recovery time. There are also psychological effects.
@Jethro said in Bruth's Last Hurrah Game Thread:
@tis4tim He came out and said he could care less about the 'Tucky game. Doesnāt excuse the performance, but we looked very unmotivated, and it showed. Better believe the next time we play, heāll have them fired up.
Thanks, man and to @BeddieKU23 for backing up my thoughts with actual Self quotes. While I'm a huge Jayhawk fan, I don't really have time to watch pre- and post-game interviews and commentary. So, good to know my instincts about the UK game were correct.
That said, you bring up an interesting point that I've thought about during and after every horrible tourney exit - the team, whether it likes it or not, tends to assimilate whatever demeanor Bill is displaying on the sidelines.
Don't get me wrong, you want the team to exhibit the defensive prowess and the toughness that Self preaches. BUT, there are too many times during important games where you can just feel how tightly wound and tense Bill is during the game. The message may be the same and the players and plays are the same, but there's a palpable coal-into-diamonds kind of vibe that you can literally sense through the television. If I can feel it, you have to believe the team feels it and feeds off of it.
The great thing about guys like Mahomes or Brady or Jordan or Tiger Woods or any exceptional athlete is that they exude confidence and inspire confidence under immense pressure. They are probably full of adrenaline too, but they manage to keep it under control and keep everyone else focused as well. Don't know if Bill is aware of this or if he practices meditation and/or yoga or things like that, but it's something I've pondered a lot and hope that someone is in his ear about it.
Doesn't mean we would automatically have won all those games in which we flamed out early, but I get the sense that players panicked at times and didn't really believe that they still have a chance. And I think some of that hopelessness and helplessness was only exacerbated by Self's sideline demeanor.
Anyway, don't mean to ramble here, but wonder if you all have any thoughts on Bill's sideline presence when the chips are down.
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Kind of amazing considering Doke shot almost 75% from the field while he was at KU.
How do our shot attempts compare to past KU teams?