Located in beautiful Cedar City.
They lost their first game against New Mexico then played three straight non-D1 opponents to hilarious effect.
They play fast and take a ton of threes.
We good.
Interested to see our activity level after Duke.
Hopefully MJ is available
@BeddieKU23 said in Southern Utah Game Thread:
Interested to see our activity level after Duke.
Hopefully MJ is available
Should be fine given our veteran leadership.
MJ should be good to go.
I want to see MJ score 15 tonight.
Are we good, really? Posters say Juan can't score, no one can hit free throws and our starting 5 is what, like 6'5". Oh my this year is going to be a disaster. And, our head coach has been suspended by the university. Oh my, what a disaster. By the way, our opponent's 3 game win streak is against LaVerne, St. Katherine and Bethesda. We don't have a chance tonight. Pass the tequila.
Zach is OUT tonight.
@stoptheflop said in Southern Utah Game Thread:
Are we good, really? Posters say Juan can't score, no one can hit free throws and our starting 5 is what, like 6'5". Oh my this year is going to be a disaster. And, our head coach has been suspended by the university. Oh my, what a disaster. By the way, our opponent's 3 game win streak is against LaVerne, St. Katherine and Bethesda. We don't have a chance tonight. Pass the tequila.
I got a whole bottle...don't mind if I do!
@Jethro said in Southern Utah Game Thread:
@BShark said in Southern Utah Game Thread:
Zach is OUT tonight.
Transfer portal?
I won't be surprised but I haven't heard anything yet.
@tundrahok said in Southern Utah Game Thread:
@BShark That's a bummer. Has anybody seen any details about his injury? Does anybody wear a mask any more when they have a broken nose?
Not sure. It was pretty bad, should have been a flagrant.
This team like to get out and run - -lot of guys 6'4 - -6'5- 6'6 - shoot a lot of 3's yet looks like right at 37 % -thing is they really go deep - -have 12 players that play from the most topping out at 23 minutes a game and the least of the 12 getting right at 11 minutes a game - looks like a constant revolving door for them. - - -Averaging 103.8 per game - -score over 100 points twice
@jayballer67 said in Southern Utah Game Thread:
This team like to get out and run - -lot of guys 6'4 - -6'5- 6'6 - shoot a lot of 3's yet looks like right at 37 % -thing is they really go deep - -have 12 players that play from the most topping out at 23 minutes a game and the least of the 12 getting right at 11 minutes a game - looks like a constant revolving door for them. - - -Averaging 103.8 per game - -score over 100 points twice
When they face our defense, it will be like a tidal wave.
@Jethro said in Southern Utah Game Thread:
@jayballer67 said in Southern Utah Game Thread:
This team like to get out and run - -lot of guys 6'4 - -6'5- 6'6 - shoot a lot of 3's yet looks like right at 37 % -thing is they really go deep - -have 12 players that play from the most topping out at 23 minutes a game and the least of the 12 getting right at 11 minutes a game - looks like a constant revolving door for them. - - -Averaging 103.8 per game - -score over 100 points twice
When they face our defense, it will be like a tidal wave.
I can't swim lmao
@jayballer67 said in Southern Utah Game Thread:
- -Averaging 103.8 per game - -score over 100 points twice
Worth noting this is against 2 D3 schools and the California equivalent of Kansas Wesleyan or Bethany. Their 1 game against a D1 school was an 8 point loss to New Mexico where they scored 81.
@BShark said in Southern Utah Game Thread:
@jayballer67 said in Southern Utah Game Thread:
- -Averaging 103.8 per game - -score over 100 points twice
Worth noting this is against 2 D3 schools and the California equivalent of Kansas Wesleyan or Bethany. Their 1 game against a D1 school was an 8 point loss to New Mexico where they scored 81.
ya I understand buddy, just noting they love to run and jack those three's gotta still get a hand in their face and not give uncontested wide open three's like we have had a tendency to do sometimes
@jayballer67 said in Southern Utah Game Thread:
@Jethro said in Southern Utah Game Thread:
@jayballer67 said in Southern Utah Game Thread:
This team like to get out and run - -lot of guys 6'4 - -6'5- 6'6 - shoot a lot of 3's yet looks like right at 37 % -thing is they really go deep - -have 12 players that play from the most topping out at 23 minutes a game and the least of the 12 getting right at 11 minutes a game - looks like a constant revolving door for them. - - -Averaging 103.8 per game - -score over 100 points twice
When they face our defense, it will be like a tidal wave.
I can't swim lmao
Neither can they.
Coach says itās concussion protocol for Zach.
MJ back at full speed and should play tonight.
A buddy of mine is at the game. He just sent me a Dick pic.
why did we schedule this team?
Make that
Two missed layups yuck
There you go, Gradey
Big shot
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Southern Utah Game Thread:
Two missed layups yuck
It happens, great looks.
ESPN+ out for anyone else?
Why can't everyone just call him Gradey?
@BShark said in Southern Utah Game Thread:
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Southern Utah Game Thread:
Two missed layups yuck
It happens, great looks.
ESPN+ out for anyone else?
Works for me
Love the floor burns on the presumed OAD
we're playing really slow. we need to pick it up.
nine point run
GRADEY
Gradey has a green light
where is KJ on D?
11 pts in 4 minutes is on pace for a 110 pt game. Not too slow.
Its the storyyyyy of a man named Gradeyyyyyy
Gradey is unreal
Dick has the stroke
my espn plus was showing then says unable to play video check back later WTF
my espn- is actually pretty good tonight
Wow Jalen wow
calling that a turn over on Juando?
Wow foul much
Is Grady one big bruise? He falls down on drives a bunch.
All right, a big man is in
@approxinfinity said in Southern Utah Game Thread:
@Zabudda so did Embiid. Its the mark of greatness
Embiid does it so his knees don't die
@Zabudda said in Southern Utah Game Thread:
Is Grady one big bruise? He falls down on drives a bunch.
If you'd been 6'8" for about 10 minutes, you'd fall down too.
Hilarious slops game
Wow. Come on refs
Udeh looks like a 1980s baller.
They avg about 90 pts I think.
Missing Bill's coaching jesus
Wow that's bad
quite the defensive stretch there
@tundrahok lol
We're getting our ass kicked by those high school kids from the movie Grease jesus christ
Get the ball to Juan.
@DanR said in Southern Utah Game Thread:
quite the defensive stretch there
Definitely why KU is down right now. Gotta get KJ back in.
Not able to watch, just following GameCast. Giving up 50%+ on FG and 3s and getting killed on the boards to Southern Utah?????
definitely only 1 guy who can run the point. I guess this is a good game to get pettiford some minutes
SWEET!
Gradey Dick is a scorer/shooter and not the other way around
Dude threw his legs out to get that, ridiculous
FLOP
GD doesn't rest
four missed/blocked oops
Kj!
Nice KJ
Dang
Run a play for MJ
Gonna call that all day
Wow they make a whole bunch of crap
He wasn't even looking at the basket, just threw it over his head
Kj playing well against the small lineup
Lot of bright spots guys.
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Southern Utah Game Thread:
He wasn't even looking at the basket, just threw it over his head
Yeah ridiculous make, said the same thing
I'm going to have a fancy holiday party and serve Fireball this year
(dumb commercial)
KJ is our best big.
Still believe this is the worst team we have played yet, they are just on fire from three. Not sure what we do when KJ needs a rest.
Wilson and Kevin off, so far
Baylor is getting their ass kicked. Virginia is 7-9 from 3. The only time they'll shoot well this season probably
Grad E
like throwing a pebble in the ocean for Gradey
@stoptheflop said in Southern Utah Game Thread:
Are we good, really? Posters say Juan can't score, no one can hit free throws and our starting 5 is what, like 6'5". Oh my this year is going to be a disaster. And, our head coach has been suspended by the university. Oh my, what a disaster. By the way, our opponent's 3 game win streak is against LaVerne, St. Katherine and Bethesda. We don't have a chance tonight. Pass the tequila.
Told ya
Kevin having a bad game
Everything bad that happens in life is bsharks fault
harris LOL, he has some handles
McCullar is rough today
Ugly, Kev
Mccullar man sit
Suuuuuu
Wrong guys with the ball.
Not Kevin's best game...
I like nick
Yes
Gotta admire the SUU coach sticking with the medium sized half zip instead of the XL
Hawks shooting 57% FG and 4-6 from 3 and losing to a school I've never heard of......
Stop turning the ball over good god
Good grief turnovers killing us
Wow, this is like watching jr hi girls
9 turnovers
PULL the Self-Suspension and bring Bill back at halftime
We good
@DanR said in Southern Utah Game Thread:
PULL the Self-Suspension and bring Bill back at halftime
Nobody's watching this anyway. It's fine
4 TOs for McCullar...
I feel like we're still going to win by 20
No flow on fast breaks.
Throwing into a crowd of 3 suuu's 1 Jayhawk
When we don't turn it over we are scoring it pretty well at least...
@Crimsonorblue22 said in Southern Utah Game Thread:
Wow, this is like watching jr hi girls
Having watched a 7th grade girls game this week, I can tell you they are still much worse than this and that should be how we torture people.
4 's TO's for McCullar zero points.
Awful call
We need a live Udeh or Zuby.
@Texas-Hawk-10 more traveling
Give the Thunderbirds credit: they've come into AFH and they're hanging with the hawks. For now.
Norm is on some crazy line-ups so far
@BShark said in Southern Utah Game Thread:
Norm is on some crazy line-ups so far
Following bills script
Gradey, stop calling me Dick, is 3/3 from 3. RC
@BeddieKU23 said in Southern Utah Game Thread:
@BShark said in Southern Utah Game Thread:
Norm is on some crazy line-ups so far
Following bills script
Not sure even he would be this wild
Refs haven't even tried so far
Get Gradey back in
Jalens a grown man
There is a reason Norm is back at KU as an assistant lmao
Believe it or not this game is good for them
The lauded defense is not being hard nosed enough.
@BeddieKU23 said in Southern Utah Game Thread:
Believe it or not this game is good for them
Terrible for me though
@BShark said in Southern Utah Game Thread:
There is a reason Norm is back at KU as an assistant lmao
He beat Duke tho. That's crazy when you think of it
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Southern Utah Game Thread:
@BeddieKU23 said in Southern Utah Game Thread:
Believe it or not this game is good for them
Terrible for me though
Me too and my heart
Juan is nasty on D
We took the lead!
Good end. Jalen knows what to do
McCullar wearing the collar for the first half. Ouch.
Juan, Wilson, Dick. KJ decent. McCullar bad bad
27 pts from Jalen and gradey
Lol norm
@BeddieKU23 hurts!
Definitely playing like it's a trap game.
Our PG, SG and SF are about as good as anyone's
Most disturbing trend is not getting to the FT line, esp. at home. And, not making 'em when they do.
Virginia is punishing Baylor.
He doesn't trust mj. I guess we need more of a lead
@BeddieKU23 said in Southern Utah Game Thread:
Lol norm
He was so bad with these rotations. Need Bill back badly.
I'd like to see some offensive sets second half. This is a waste
@DCHawker said in Southern Utah Game Thread:
Most disturbing trend is not getting to the FT line, esp. at home. And, not making 'em when they do.
This team is actually horrible at drawing fouls it's interesting. Might change when Self gets back but part of it is the guys we have.
No surprise here: beat Duke in the last 2 minutes and play S. Utah 3 nights later. The lack of focus is understandable
we got to quit turning the dm ball over. you would think it would be the other way around, but we have 10 turnovers and they have 5
@jayballer67 said in Southern Utah Game Thread:
we got to quit turning the dm ball over. you would think it would be the other way around, but we have 10 turnovers and they have 5
Agree. If the Hawks cut the UNFORCED turnovers they roll. Playing solid otherwise.
Duke got their head out of their ass in the 2nd half tonight hopefully we can do the same.
Thunderbirds are out blocking our sorry asses 2/1
McCullar..WAKE UP
They got to the rim a lot and we have two offense boards.
Wow Kevin what is your fn problem
McCullar man
wow, McCullar is on fire in a bad way
Norm please use your EYES
Sit Kev. His back must be messed up or something. Playing like a corpse
5 turnovers
Bad game for McCullar - 0 from the field and 5 of 11 TOs...
Sorry guys and gals. Itās my fault. Had knee surgery today - just got home - canāt sport my game day gear. Totally my fault. š¤¦āāļø lol
You let them hang around or are they letting us hang around?
Only Gradey and Jalon looking to score. This is starting to concern me. Except for Gradey's early 3/3 3 pters, KU is 1/7 from 3.
Ready for Bill to be back on the bench
Walk
Wilson has to figure out a way to involve the rest of the offense
Help side?
pretty sure Juando could score 15 a game easily if he had to
Can not get a stop...
Gradey?
Get a stop and then run a play for Rice
Rebound guys
Box out go get it! Don't watch
Just getting out hustled and out worked...
Death by rebounds.
Juan has been our entire offense the last 8 minutes...
To much sightseeing!
Whew. I guess this will be some good film to review after all
Zero points by Gradey in the second half.
Early am practice
bshark needs to run suicides
Just 4 points from bench and zero from McCullar....
Kevin is back out there... come on dude
Took away our fast break.
Wilson
Man they are making some bullshit
There you go, Gradey
back door joke there ...
Nice cut
McCullar, with a board and bucket!
Illegal screen on Juan
I thought Harris got fouled on that screen
Gotta make that
Lay ups...
Out of gas
Wilson did miss about 5 layups in the first half of the championship game and that turned out OK
@DanR said in Southern Utah Game Thread:
Wilson did miss about 5 layups in the first half of the championship game and that turned out OK
Because of Remy and Dave lol
Feel bad for Gradey drifting out to three land waiting for the dish and watching Harris and Wilson drive and pound bricks those last three possessions
Getting nothing from our deep bench tonight....
Our half court offense is a little ragged.
Baylor lost to UVA...
@DCHawker said in Southern Utah Game Thread:
Just 4 points from bench and zero from McCullar....
By far Kevin's worst game. Unforced turnovers as well.
@DCHawker said in Southern Utah Game Thread:
Getting nothing from our deep bench tonight....
@DCHawker said in Southern Utah Game Thread:
Getting nothing from our deep bench tonight....
The bench is shooting 2/8. Terrible
The problem is we only have 3 players that even look at the rim when they have the ball.
Banked in at almost a flat angle
Ugly
even wilson knew he shouldn't shoot that 10 footer
better get Dajuan back out there
an assist!!
Zuby
I'd be okay with Zuby playing more
One block on this D3 team after 11 on Duke?
Sure that's the illegal screen you call
That was weak, ref
Zubyās mushroom cut is different.
TBirds only shooting 38%. Why can't we pull away?
Another banked 3 lmao
The bank is open.
Southern Utah upset about being called for very obvious fouls
13 offensive rbs by the TBirds has allowed them 10 more shots in the game. Jeez
Jalen is the only Hawk who has made a FT. At home, that isn't acceptable...
Big stage now. Who will it be?
I guess it'll be Wilson or Harris driving to the hole... for the rest of the year
@DanR said in Southern Utah Game Thread:
I guess it'll be Wilson or Harris driving to the hole... for the rest of the year
Bobby
MJ?
another assist!
Harris was looking for Gradey and his guy stuck on him that time. Good decision
Jalen is much more efficient tonight. Looks like an absolute stud!
Kev might need a new tooth
KMac is alive!
Awesome
Nice!
big finish, guys
Man
We are fine. Win this and burn the tape.
I'd be jackin more bank threes if I was SUU
Should've backed it out
They've shot twice as many 3's and 4 for free throws
@approxinfinity Gonna be honest -Percocet is making the game much more watchable. Lol
Just not getting stops. Gradey has only 2 pts this half and not close on shots...
Didnāt age well DC. š
Dick is big time
Bingo
worst screen ever by KJ, but he got the board
Kj
See ya
@Crimsonorblue22 said in Southern Utah Game Thread:
See ya
That guy has never committed a foul in his life
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Yes!
KU just can't hit both FTs. Why?
Southern Utah I think is a team you wouldn't wanna see in the 1st round of the NCAA tourney , think they will surprise some people
just win, baby
@stoptheflop FT shooting this year seems to be an adventure
Jayhawks win.
Coach Self!
Destroy the tape
SUU looked better than Duke
Wasn't pretty, but at least they survived.
@dylans said in Southern Utah Game Thread:
@approxinfinity Gonna be honest -Percocet is making the game much more watchable. Lol
lmao- - -Oxi-cottons aren't to bad either lol
Coach is back tomorrow...just in time.
@kuballin10 said in Southern Utah Game Thread:
@BShark kinda a problem when playing basketball
Jalen, Kev and Gradey
Juan at least stepping up
This is awful not even the same team
Thank god Bill is coming back.
Cheers, everyone. RCJH
@Jethro said in Southern Utah Game Thread:
just win, baby
Hey Buddy dang you I'm still waiting for that Tidal wave lol
@BShark said in Southern Utah Game Thread:
@kuballin10 said in Southern Utah Game Thread:
@BShark kinda a problem when playing basketball
Jalen, Kev and Gradey
Juan at least stepping up
This is awful not even the same team
Thank god Bill is coming back.
Thanks for the assist Norm, but donāt quit your day job!
What a difference a year makes for Jalen, from DWI to driving the lane while ON FIYAH
@dylans said in Southern Utah Game Thread:
@BShark said in Southern Utah Game Thread:
@kuballin10 said in Southern Utah Game Thread:
@BShark kinda a problem when playing basketball
Jalen, Kev and Gradey
Juan at least stepping up
This is awful not even the same team
Thank god Bill is coming back.
Thanks for the assist Norm, but donāt quit your day job!
We're 4-0 with a win over a Top 10 team.
Jalen with 33/6/4
Bench with 4 points
Glad we won, I'll take the win but we have JUST GOT TO get more production from other then just Jalen & Grady - -thank GOD for Juan production tonight -I'll take 13 from him everytime out
This will cheer everybody up - Baylor lost!
Osu lost in OT, Thompson not improved
Self's gotta work on MJ. A me guy.
Next one Wednesday against NC State. Will have to play better than we did tonight
@Jethro said in Southern Utah Game Thread:
@dylans said in Southern Utah Game Thread:
@BShark said in Southern Utah Game Thread:
@kuballin10 said in Southern Utah Game Thread:
@BShark kinda a problem when playing basketball
Jalen, Kev and Gradey
Juan at least stepping up
This is awful not even the same team
Thank god Bill is coming back.
Thanks for the assist Norm, but donāt quit your day job!
We're 4-0 with a win over a Top 10 team.
Yes KU is. Iām not gonna run Norm down, however, I am extremely grateful Bill Self is the coach.
Hangover from Tuesday with our mind already on the Bahamas and no Bill on the bench. Today wasnāt a surprise.
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Southern Utah Game Thread:
Next one Wednesday against NC State. Will have to play better than we did tonight
I expect they will. Letdown game after a big early season win without Bill to chew on them. Poor Norm lost his voice trying.
Bill will light them up.
@Jethro said in Southern Utah Game Thread:
Bill will light them up.
Juando agreed in the post game. Love his brutal honesty!
I'm not going to say anything about Norm's coaching tonight because KU's had plenty of games like this with Self as well. How many times has KU lost or struggled in the game before Christmas break or some other random non conference game either right after or right before a big game?
KU wasn't engaged tonight and I really don't think it would've mattered if it was Norm or Self on bench tonight.
Just finished watching the game. A lot of standing around when the ball went up during this game. But they made the plays when they needed to. Harris showed he can score when teams take away the pass. Gradey continues to hit big shots and show the moment isnāt too big for him. Wilson is on a mission this year. Kevin had a rough game. KJ tries har but still isnāt a good rebounder. Udeh hasnāt figured it out yet. Zuby still needs to learn to set a screen. Bobby plays tough d but was mostly a no show on o. Joe made a shot I think? MJ not sure how to engage as a third or fourth option. Itās like he starts playing when the ball comes to him but not much before that. The transition from being THE guy your whole life to at best the third option on the floor with Wilson and Gradey out there has to be tough. Turnovers all over the place kept this close and a bunch of garbage shots falling actually made it interesting for a while. Someone lamented after the first two games that these games against lesser teams are boring blowouts. Not so much tonight. Just shows how good a team has to play to really blow someone out.
Big big night by Wilson. Super star kinda night! Gradey and Harris as well.
Some very strange stats tonight. We shot 51% to their 38%, but it was still close.
We scored 50 to their 34 in the paint, yet they outrebounded us 45-41.
I wondered all game about our rebounding philosophy. More than a few times there literally was nobody in the paint to hit the boards. Was it Normās strategy to get back up the court as fast as possible and have everybody leak out on break? That was weird.
I think teams have figured out our screen and roll lobs. Gotta go back to class on that one.
Would be ideal if we had two legit shooters parking on the 3 pt line waiting for a kick out.
KJ was nice and aggressive. Like to see that from him.
McCullar. Well, he made some plays at the end. He seems clumsy with his passing and unforced turnovers. Hoping he gets more comfortable soon.
Ha, as I write this Iām watching the postgameā¦and sure enough Norm said the guys all leaked out from rebounding!
Still think MJ has to work his way into more minutes, and make the most of them for us to be better.
Ummm...Gradey is freaking clutch. 40 seconds left...ahead by 1...3 ball by Gradey to win!
4-0 and on to the Bahamas. The coach will likely be fired up and, maybe not enough to wear a Speedo and hunt sharks with a spear, but an edgy Self can be dangerous.
Who is the 3rd scorer on this team?
Juan?
McCullar?
MJ?
There was one situation during the game last night and one of the announcers saw it and brought it up. You know I don't think I've ever seen ANY Bill Self team where this happened and I swear hope I never see again.
This is where Southern Utah stole a pass or there was a KU turnover broke out on the break and there was like 3 more Southern Utah players trailing th play which turned out good for them cause the 1st shot was missed but other Utah players there to rebound and put back - -THREE trailing Utah players - - - Where in the hell was our KU players? - -there wasn't a fricken one - - NOT ONE even in the picture - -what the hell the Color commentator mentioned it at the time he said- - -you got to get back dam. - -There is no excuse for that what soever. Hope I never see that again.
@rockchalkjayhawk said in Southern Utah Game Thread:
Big big night by Wilson. Super star kinda night! Gradey and Harris as well.
Some very strange stats tonight. We shot 51% to their 38%, but it was still close.
We scored 50 to their 34 in the paint, yet they outrebounded us 45-41.
I wondered all game about our rebounding philosophy. More than a few times there literally was nobody in the paint to hit the boards. Was it Normās strategy to get back up the court as fast as possible and have everybody leak out on break? That was weird.
I think teams have figured out our screen and roll lobs. Gotta go back to class on that one.
Would be ideal if we had two legit shooters parking on the 3 pt line waiting for a kick out.
KJ was nice and aggressive. Like to see that from him.
McCullar. Well, he made some plays at the end. He seems clumsy with his passing and unforced turnovers. Hoping he gets more comfortable soon.
Ha, as I write this Iām watching the postgameā¦and sure enough Norm said the guys all leaked out from rebounding!
Still think MJ has to work his way into more minutes, and make the most of them for us to be better.
The rebounding philosophy was to have players leak out to try amd get easy fast break points. The problem is KJ can't get a defensive rebound to save his life. This let SUU get 14 offensive rebounds and kept KU from getting out an running as much as they wanted to.
@AsadZ said in Southern Utah Game Thread:
Who is the 3rd scorer on this team?
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Pretty big drop off after the first two, so far. Juan and McCullar could score at a bit higher rate, but I can't see them increasing a lot. MJ probably has the biggest potential to become a regular scoring threat, from what we've seen. But he still needs to buy into the system and earn the coaches' trust.
@tundrahok I am surprised and somewhat disappointed that JY has not scored more. It appears that he still does not have trust of coaching staff.
@AsadZ said in Southern Utah Game Thread:
@tundrahok I am surprised and somewhat disappointed that JY has not scored more. It appears that he still does not have trust of coaching staff.
Hate to say it, but Joe just does not seem like a good fit at KU.
Dude is solidly built, seems like a bulldog who could drive and bounce off other players at the rim. But he doesnāt. You can see he has quickness in the open court, but what else has he shown the coaching staff?
Surprised he stuck around, would be shocked if heās still here next season at this rate.
@AsadZ said in Southern Utah Game Thread:
@tundrahok I am surprised and somewhat disappointed that JY has not scored more. It appears that he still does not have trust of coaching staff.
He's not a consistent player. He had the great run at the end of his sophomore season with Drake, but at the end of the day, he wasn't a consistent scorer or shooter.
@tundrahok MJ has a lot to figure out, when he does we get better!