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Texas Southern Game Thread
Nov 28, 2022 05:00 PM #1

ESPN+ at 8pm EST.

KU favored by 24.

This is a much-needed game for the Hawks although it would have been better with a few more days of rest for them after the 3 in 3 tournament but these kids are young enough to get up for it.

Texas Southern (Kenpom #242) has lost to notable teams; Texas Tech by 24, Houston by 35 & Auburn by 16. They have a 1 pt win over Arizona St (such a Bobby Hurley thing to do) as their lone W so far.

They shoot 37% from the field, 57% from the FT line & 27% from 3 as a team. They don't shoot it well, although their 3 best players shoot in the mid to high 30's from 3.

Interested to see the energy and effort levels coming off the L. They need a good bounce back game before Seton Hall comes to town on Thursday

Nov 28, 2022 05:22 PM #2

Let’s have a learning lineup! Let these guys get some PT, see who steps up.

Joe (if Cuffe were available I’d start him)

MJ

Gradey

Wilson

Zuby

Nov 28, 2022 05:45 PM #3

Gotta have Juan, joes not a pt. I'd start Kevin too but get MJ a lot of mins. He's got a lot of team ball to learn. Gradey needs to get after it too, both ends, he very capable. Make 'em play some D. I did hear dave Stewart say on the pregame fb show the bb team was having trouble getting out of the Bahamas. That may mean an hr or many?? I think they will be tired.

Nov 28, 2022 06:11 PM #4

This is a game nobody should be playing more than 25 minutes unless it's a bench player. Yesufu needs to be playing a lot of PG tonight especially if Pettiford's going to be out awhile because that's the back up right now and he needs to get used to running the show instead of playing off ball because there's not another option right now. I'd also like to see all the post options play as well with KJ getting the fewest minutes. I'd also like to see Zach at the 4 for a few minutes because that's the position his game is most suited for. I'd also love to see Rice get a lot of minutes tonight and even get Jankovich some minutes because we're not far away from a scenario where he may have to play real minutes and tonight should be a low risk game to get him 5 or so minutes with non scout team players.

Nov 28, 2022 07:59 PM #5

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

This is a game nobody should be playing more than 25 minutes unless it's a bench player. Yesufu needs to be playing a lot of PG tonight especially if Pettiford's going to be out awhile because that's the back up right now and he needs to get used to running the show instead of playing off ball because there's not another option right now. I'd also like to see all the post options play as well with KJ getting the fewest minutes. I'd also like to see Zach at the 4 for a few minutes because that's the position his game is most suited for. I'd also love to see Rice get a lot of minutes tonight and even get Jankovich some minutes because we're not far away from a scenario where he may have to play real minutes and tonight should be a low risk game to get him 5 or so minutes with non scout team players.

you make some pretty dam good sense on this - -at least I think so. we have got to get players floor time and development.--- had't really thought about Zach and the 4 but ya if he can get some confidence that's one I like because HE CAN stretch the floor add some additional height - -I know he can shoot the ball , it's just a matter of showing it, and got to play some better defense.

Good options. - -I think like was mentioned also we need to get Zuby and Udeh minutes for sure in this - -just have to

Nov 28, 2022 10:03 PM #6

Get up early, and get the youngsters some run! I want to see as much MJ, Udeh and Zuby as possible today.

Nov 28, 2022 11:49 PM #7

@Kcmatt7 So uh, Kevin is OUT tonight, we will definitely see the bench guys.

Nov 28, 2022 11:52 PM #8

@BShark said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

@Kcmatt7 So uh, Kevin is OUT tonight, we will definitely see the bench guys.

My prognostication skills are legendary. :)

Nov 28, 2022 11:58 PM #9

They hide KU Gameday live every time. It's intentional, and it annoys me.

Nov 29, 2022 12:03 AM #10

Start Jank if we want to build an early lead.

Nov 29, 2022 12:04 AM #11

We'll see a lot of Joe, and hopefully a lot of MJ.

Nov 29, 2022 12:05 AM #12

@benshawks08 said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

Start Jank if we want to build an early lead.

He might unironically have to play. MJ is our only bench "small" scholarship player tonight. 9 guys total and 4 are bigs.

Nov 29, 2022 12:06 AM #13

Dave Armstrong's last game. I like Dave Armstrong- always have.

Nov 29, 2022 12:06 AM #14

@BShark said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

@Kcmatt7 So uh, Kevin is OUT tonight, we will definitely see the bench guys.

Wow

Nov 29, 2022 12:07 AM #15

I love watching the espn+ "event about to start" loop for five minutes

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Nov 29, 2022 12:07 AM #16

Live sports

Nov 29, 2022 12:08 AM #17

Espn plus originals.

Nov 29, 2022 12:08 AM #18

And the biggest names in the game

Nov 29, 2022 12:09 AM #19

Same starting lineup. Sorry Udeh and MJ fans

Nov 29, 2022 12:10 AM #20

Yesufu starting. Oh bill

Nov 29, 2022 12:10 AM #21

Oh, missed Joe starting. OK, let's do it.

Nov 29, 2022 12:11 AM #22

You gotta make that

Nov 29, 2022 12:12 AM #23

Nice kick

Nov 29, 2022 12:12 AM #24

Yesufu

Nov 29, 2022 12:13 AM #25

whatever bill has to do to get Joe going, I'm ok with. Need another guard with some confidence

Nov 29, 2022 12:14 AM #26

Nice

Nov 29, 2022 12:14 AM #27

Good thing TSU stinks. We will need Kevin back for SHU.

Nov 29, 2022 12:15 AM #28

@BShark said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

Good thing TSU stinks. We will need Kevin back for SHU.

Why he out?

Nov 29, 2022 12:16 AM #29

Groin, but dressing in case of emergency

Nov 29, 2022 12:17 AM #30

@Crimsonorblue22

Oh no

Nov 29, 2022 12:17 AM #31

Go to the basketball and maybe you can get to pregame faster. I get it and post game on cox cable

Nov 29, 2022 12:18 AM #32

I could have shot an airball like that

Nov 29, 2022 12:18 AM #33

Wow Jalen share the ball

Nov 29, 2022 12:19 AM #34

This game is going to make me want to drink a glass of warm milk and punch myself in the face

Nov 29, 2022 12:19 AM #35

See what happens when you pass

Nov 29, 2022 12:21 AM #36

Let's go, Udeh

Nov 29, 2022 12:21 AM #37

And MJ

Nov 29, 2022 12:21 AM #38

My friend and former colleague is the marching band director at Tex Southern. Fantastic band, but I'm still for KU!

Nov 29, 2022 12:21 AM #39

@FarmerJayhawk said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

This game is going to make me want to drink a glass of warm milk and punch myself in the face

Wonder what the score would be if we could only play bench and walk ons.

Nov 29, 2022 12:21 AM #40

@BeddieKU23 said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

And MJ

him too

Nov 29, 2022 12:22 AM #41

Awful

Nov 29, 2022 12:22 AM #42

Udeh lost on both ends already.

Nov 29, 2022 12:22 AM #43

@BShark said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

Udeh lost on both ends already.

Redic

Nov 29, 2022 12:22 AM #44

Mj

Nov 29, 2022 12:23 AM #45

@BShark said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

Udeh lost on both ends already.

The defense...omg

Nov 29, 2022 12:23 AM #46

Udeh didn't fight over that screen and then gets called for another foul

Nov 29, 2022 12:25 AM #47

But we need him to play!

Nov 29, 2022 12:25 AM #48

Oh my Lanta udeh what are you doing. Your the tallest guy playing like the smallest

Nov 29, 2022 12:25 AM #49

@BeddieKU23 said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

Udeh didn't fight over that screen and then gets called for another foul

You had this called right. This is Bahamas hangover.

Nov 29, 2022 12:26 AM #50

@Crimsonorblue22 said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

But we need him to play!

If he can learn how to play then sure. He and Zuby need development but that is expected of Freshman.

Nov 29, 2022 12:26 AM #51

They didn't leave til Sunday at 6 am. Stuck at airport and had to get a couple of hundred rooms again

Nov 29, 2022 12:27 AM #52

@Jethro said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

@BeddieKU23 said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

Udeh didn't fight over that screen and then gets called for another foul

You had this called right. This is Bahamas hangover.

Not really? We looked fine before we went to the bench even with Joe starting. Idk I think our 5 spot is just this bad.

Nov 29, 2022 12:28 AM #53

@BShark it is that bad, but everyone is complaining about them not playing. They need to play

Nov 29, 2022 12:32 AM #54

Wow make something

Nov 29, 2022 12:32 AM #55

This is a lineup I hope to never see again

Nov 29, 2022 12:32 AM #56

Yes, yes

Nov 29, 2022 12:33 AM #57

They can basically only score on us with Udeh in the game. Food for thought.

Nov 29, 2022 12:33 AM #58

Zach not getting run is telling

Nov 29, 2022 12:34 AM #59

@Kcmatt7 said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

This is a lineup I hope to never see again

KJ would be a really nice 4 if he could shoot.

Nov 29, 2022 12:34 AM #60

@BShark do u think he can improve? He's got the body.

Nov 29, 2022 12:34 AM #61

Has anyone ever seen KJ shoot a jumpshot?

Nov 29, 2022 12:35 AM #62

@approxinfinity said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

Has anyone ever seen KJ shoot a jumpshot?

It's not flattering

Nov 29, 2022 12:35 AM #63

@Crimsonorblue22 Doesn't seem super likely. Free throws are a good indicator and we know how bad he is there. Hope the staff is trying though, it's his only major weakness aside from defensive rebounding which would be far less of an issue if he could play the 4.

Nov 29, 2022 12:35 AM #64

@approxinfinity I think he airballed his first shot of the season and hasn’t let one rip since šŸ˜‚

Nov 29, 2022 12:35 AM #65

@Kcmatt7 said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

@approxinfinity I think he airballed his first shot of the season and hasn’t let one rip since šŸ˜‚

Bill saw that and said "now listen son..."

Nov 29, 2022 12:39 AM #66

Have Gradey's instinct's regressed over the last 2games?

Nov 29, 2022 12:39 AM #67

Zuby is your starter Bill

Nov 29, 2022 12:39 AM #68

I think Gradey is fine. Supporting cast is just not helping him

Nov 29, 2022 12:39 AM #69

Great effort by zuby

Nov 29, 2022 12:40 AM #70

First big that learns how to set a high screen will be the starter

Nov 29, 2022 12:40 AM #71

@BeddieKU23 said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

Great effort by zuby

This will NEVER be an issue with him from what I've heard.

Nov 29, 2022 12:41 AM #72

@BShark said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

@BeddieKU23 said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

Great effort by zuby

This will NEVER be an issue with him from what I've heard.

Tracked down that rebound.

Nov 29, 2022 12:41 AM #73

Sweet

Nov 29, 2022 12:42 AM #74

There ya go KJ

Nov 29, 2022 12:43 AM #75

The guys do not like passing MJ the ball lol

Nov 29, 2022 12:43 AM #76

KJ AT THE FT LINE ALERT :snowman:

Nov 29, 2022 12:43 AM #77

@Kcmatt7 said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

The guys do not like passing MJ the ball lol

you wont get it back

Nov 29, 2022 12:43 AM #78

Smooooth

Nov 29, 2022 12:44 AM #79

Ish

Nov 29, 2022 12:44 AM #80

Lolz !F8CB8BD5-FCF4-4446-B38B-949A4892E08E.png ↗

Nov 29, 2022 12:44 AM #81

Woo broke the 20% ceiling

Nov 29, 2022 12:45 AM #82

These guys live in a dorm with a state of the art indoor basketball court or at least goal, right? KJ has been on campus well over a year now. I know there's limits on practice time but he can go in there and shoot whenever he wants, Right. I'm sorry, but there's zero excuse for a guy not being able to make a jump shot. I don't get it. You hear stories of guys spending hours upon hours shooting. What's the problem with KJ? I'm guessing it's a work ethic problem and he needs to improve his shot like JWill has.

Nov 29, 2022 12:46 AM #83

KJs freethrow form looks pretty good. Not like Doke who looked like he was shooting freebies with a tennis ball

Nov 29, 2022 12:46 AM #84

It was bad as I remember! Talking about the Tennessee game!🤮

Nov 29, 2022 12:46 AM #85

Grad2y.

Nov 29, 2022 12:46 AM #86

@wissox No

Nov 29, 2022 12:47 AM #87

@BShark said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

@wissox No

Yes!

Nov 29, 2022 12:47 AM #88

Self doesn't tolerate lazy guys. Some guys just actually can't shoot.

Nov 29, 2022 12:47 AM #89

I just figured KJ would improve on his FTs at least which he wasn't this bad at last year

Nov 29, 2022 12:47 AM #90

I dont know, looking at KJ, its hard to imagine any problems with motivation

Nov 29, 2022 12:48 AM #91

There gonna have to do something to get him shooting better at the line. Too many attempts coming his way

Nov 29, 2022 12:49 AM #92

A small forward's gonna have to know how to shoot because he doesn't play big enough does he? I never had a problem with Doke not being able to because he didn't need to, but KJ so far hasn't proven he can dominate inside.

Nov 29, 2022 12:49 AM #93

@approxinfinity said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

I dont know, looking at KJ, its hard to imagine any problems with motivation

He practices well, does the right things. Self likes him and fought to keep him (there were some people in his ear about transferring).

Nov 29, 2022 12:49 AM #94

Ridiculous with these moving screens as soon as they check in. So lazy

Nov 29, 2022 12:50 AM #95

Terrible shot

Nov 29, 2022 12:50 AM #96

Gradey!

Nov 29, 2022 12:50 AM #97

Gradeys hair doesnt look so punchable recently

Nov 29, 2022 12:51 AM #98

Nice d

Nov 29, 2022 12:51 AM #99

Joe either foul or don’t bro

Nov 29, 2022 12:51 AM #100

Not a good effort. Looks like a team that knows they’ll win by 30 even playing soft

Nov 29, 2022 12:52 AM #101

I like Nick so much, actually Dave too

Nov 29, 2022 12:52 AM #102

1-6 opponents isnt great

Nov 29, 2022 12:53 AM #103

Yeah was thinking this effort won't win Thursday. They need the next two days to go well

Nov 29, 2022 12:53 AM #104

@approxinfinity but beat asu? Go figure

Nov 29, 2022 12:54 AM #105

Lol that's a sure shot

Nov 29, 2022 12:54 AM #106

Bill is HOT

Nov 29, 2022 12:54 AM #107

Coach not happy

Nov 29, 2022 12:54 AM #108

Well Zuby looked good

Nov 29, 2022 12:55 AM #109

@FarmerJayhawk said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

Bill is HOT

Good.

Nov 29, 2022 12:56 AM #110

Taylor made evening to see what our bench can contribute and 2 points so far. DHarris has zero points but 6 dimes.

Nov 29, 2022 12:57 AM #111

Wow bucs are 5-6 and first in nfc south.

Nov 29, 2022 12:57 AM #112

I was hoping for a little more fire but Jalen is moving back into AA consideration.

Nov 29, 2022 12:58 AM #113

We thought it'd be fun to watch how this team develops and jells, right? So this is fun!

Nov 29, 2022 12:58 AM #114

Zuby me likey

Nov 29, 2022 12:59 AM #115

@DanR said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

We thought it'd be fun to watch how this team develops and jells, right? So this is fun!

Agreed. I guess if we wanted perfection we would be running 5 guys until their wheels fall off.

Nov 29, 2022 01:00 AM #116

@approxinfinity said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

Wow bucs are 5-6 and first in nfc south.

Where is cancel culture when we really need it amirite? Defund the NFC South.

Nov 29, 2022 01:01 AM #117

@DanR said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

We thought it'd be fun to watch how this team develops and jells, right? So this is fun!

For sure. I'm glad we are resting Kevin we will need him for Seton Hall.

MJ has terrible body language was a big takeaway for me.

Nov 29, 2022 01:03 AM #118

12 assists on 15 buckets so good stuff

Nov 29, 2022 01:04 AM #119

@BeddieKU23 This has actually been one of our biggest strengths this year.

Nov 29, 2022 01:05 AM #120

I wish I could say that I have seen things to get me more excited tonight. - -kinda going through motions - -once again Rice , Udeh just not doing much - -Zuby is effort- - sure would like to know what's going on with Zac - -late , late entry into game --I think he HASA to be the big for now anyways - -something has to be going on behind the scenes..

Joe been decent anyways not great , but not horrible-- maybe see more in 2nd half

Nov 29, 2022 01:06 AM #121

You know i teach my kids to swing open like a door after setting a screen when rolling to basket. Noticing KJ never does that always pivots the other way on a roll. Thoughts?

Nov 29, 2022 01:10 AM #122

FLOP

Nov 29, 2022 01:12 AM #123

Yeah Bill chewed out their asses at half

Nov 29, 2022 01:12 AM #124

Moving the ball! What we've been missing

Nov 29, 2022 01:12 AM #125

Do you think we should be ranked ahead of Rocky Top? Asking for a friend.

Nov 29, 2022 01:13 AM #126

Good stuff running them ragged

Nov 29, 2022 01:13 AM #127

@Crimsonorblue22 said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

Moving the ball! What we've been missing

They responded well to the half time talk.

Nov 29, 2022 01:14 AM #128

Making them play D and getting good shots.

Nov 29, 2022 01:14 AM #129

Harris with 7 dimes

Nov 29, 2022 01:14 AM #130

No I don't think they should be ahead of Rocky Top.

Nov 29, 2022 01:15 AM #131

!alt text ↗

Gotta love ESPN+

Nov 29, 2022 01:15 AM #132

My sound doesn't work and it's kind of nice that it doesn't.

Nov 29, 2022 01:16 AM #133

kj that was nice

Nov 29, 2022 01:16 AM #134

Aww I’m gonna miss Dave Armstrong. Takes me back to the old ESPN Plus days

Nov 29, 2022 01:16 AM #135

Folks the Hawks are COOKING this half.

Nov 29, 2022 01:16 AM #136

Who's rocky top?

Nov 29, 2022 01:17 AM #137

@Crimsonorblue22 Tennesseeuhhhhhh

Nov 29, 2022 01:18 AM #138

@wissox said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

No I don't think they should be ahead of Rocky Top.

No one cares at this point in the season

Nov 29, 2022 01:19 AM #139

@Crimsonorblue22 Tennessee

Nov 29, 2022 01:20 AM #140

@wissox I got it!šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚

Nov 29, 2022 01:20 AM #141

Damn that Mortle kid has hops

Nov 29, 2022 01:20 AM #142

@DanR I bet you one of them hillbillies up there north of Knoxville cares

Nov 29, 2022 01:20 AM #143

18 assists on 21 made baskets now. Juando has 8.

Nov 29, 2022 01:21 AM #144

4 guys in double figures.

Nov 29, 2022 01:22 AM #145

Put in the frosh

Nov 29, 2022 01:22 AM #146

@Kcmatt7 said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

Put in the frosh

I'm reaallllly not feeling MJ. I'd like to see more Zuby tho

Nov 29, 2022 01:22 AM #147

MJ in however.

Nov 29, 2022 01:22 AM #148

@wissox said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

@DanR I bet you one of them hillbillies up there north of Knoxville cares

I lived in Knoxville for ten years. If UT lost every game the rest of the year, no one would bat an eye

Nov 29, 2022 01:23 AM #149

@DanR said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

@wissox said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

@DanR I bet you one of them hillbillies up there north of Knoxville cares

I lived in Knoxville for ten years. If UT lost every game the rest of the year, no one would bat an eye

After that football game against South Carolina on the other hand..

Nov 29, 2022 01:23 AM #150

MJ going for it.

Nov 29, 2022 01:23 AM #151

@BShark said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

@Kcmatt7 said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

Put in the frosh

I'm reaallllly not feeling MJ. I'd like to see more Zuby tho

MJ has to get pt. Need him if we’re going to be any good

Nov 29, 2022 01:23 AM #152

HIGGINS MONITOR TIME DRINK

Nov 29, 2022 01:23 AM #153

@BShark said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

@DanR said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

@wissox said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

@DanR I bet you one of them hillbillies up there north of Knoxville cares

I lived in Knoxville for ten years. If UT lost every game the rest of the year, no one would bat an eye

After that football game against South Carolina on the other hand..

Oh, yeah. There were tears in the eyes of grown men when Hooker went down

Nov 29, 2022 01:24 AM #154

@FarmerJayhawk said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

HIGGINS MONITOR TIME DRINK

WELCOME TO THE SHOW BABY.

Nov 29, 2022 01:24 AM #155

@DanR It was like that in Baton Rouge too.

Nov 29, 2022 01:24 AM #156

How did I not know Higgins was reffing this?

Nov 29, 2022 01:24 AM #157

@FarmerJayhawk he's just like an old friend. Comfortable and trustworthy. They had gueldner (sp) on during pregame, talking about his book. I think I'd like it. I like him and dave Stewart. I've just watched so many pre and post games. I really appreciate them.

Nov 29, 2022 01:24 AM #158

@DanR Watching that game I remembered a pastor from many years ago in South Carolina. He told me "I'm sick of hearing Rocky Top." :face_with_tears_of_joy:

Nov 29, 2022 01:25 AM #159

@Crimsonorblue22 great way to put it!

Nov 29, 2022 01:25 AM #160

Razzle dazzle

Nov 29, 2022 01:25 AM #161

Mortle is P5 good man

Nov 29, 2022 01:25 AM #162

Atta way MJ

Nov 29, 2022 01:25 AM #163

Yay, MJ

Nov 29, 2022 01:26 AM #164

Woo

Nov 29, 2022 01:26 AM #165

@Kcmatt7 said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

Mortle is P5 good man

If he keeps showing out he won't stay at TSU.

Nov 29, 2022 01:26 AM #166

@Kcmatt7 Jones always could really recruit

Nov 29, 2022 01:26 AM #167

@DanR cataracts?šŸ‘€

Nov 29, 2022 01:26 AM #168

@Crimsonorblue22 said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

@DanR cataracts?šŸ‘€

20-20 both eyes. Doing great. She's more confident driving at night.

Nov 29, 2022 01:27 AM #169

I was joking

Nov 29, 2022 01:27 AM #170

@DanR nice!

Nov 29, 2022 01:28 AM #171

You can see Rice is talented. Get this one going

Nov 29, 2022 01:28 AM #172

We need to run the ol inbounds dunk play down the lane for MJ when we get a chance

Nov 29, 2022 01:29 AM #173

Wilson!šŸŽ

Nov 29, 2022 01:29 AM #174

Joe ended up on Walker? Yeah lol.

Nov 29, 2022 01:29 AM #175

@BeddieKU23 said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

You can see Rice is talented. Get this one going

The challenge is keeping him engaged I think.

Nov 29, 2022 01:30 AM #176

Huge challenge

Nov 29, 2022 01:30 AM #177

See how bad he wants it! I want him to want it!

Nov 29, 2022 01:31 AM #178

@BShark we knew this coming in, right?

Nov 29, 2022 01:31 AM #179

More Zuby plz

Nov 29, 2022 01:32 AM #180

Did I miss some info on Rice? Seems like a stud... bad attitude?

Nov 29, 2022 01:32 AM #181

Yes, kj looking good, need zub to get mins

Nov 29, 2022 01:32 AM #182

You can see such a huge difference in the way the ball and players move when he’s in vs when he’s out. I think he will figure it out.

Nov 29, 2022 01:32 AM #183

@Crimsonorblue22 said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

@BShark we knew this coming in, right?

Yes absolutely that's why the pro rumors were there and some schools backed off.

Nov 29, 2022 01:33 AM #184

Yeaahh

Nov 29, 2022 01:33 AM #185

@DanR said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

Did I miss some info on Rice? Seems like a stud... bad attitude?

Yes.

Nov 29, 2022 01:33 AM #186

MJ just needs good things to happen. He’ll buy in when they do

Nov 29, 2022 01:33 AM #187

@DanR that is the rumor. Seems more like he is a ā€œwhen it’s good it’s good when it’s bad it’s badā€ kind of guy to me

Nov 29, 2022 01:34 AM #188

He's getting after it!šŸ™šŸŒ¾šŸŒ¾

Nov 29, 2022 01:34 AM #189

Jalen Wilsons jumpshot on the other hand is wet!

Nov 29, 2022 01:35 AM #190

Jalen’s night should be over

Nov 29, 2022 01:35 AM #191

Seriously, i wasnt comfortable with Jalen being a volume shooter at the start of the season. Now, lets do it

Nov 29, 2022 01:36 AM #192

Appreciate Tx southern leaving rice wide open all the time to get him going for us.

Nov 29, 2022 01:36 AM #193

@Kcmatt7 said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

Jalen’s night should be over

Strongly agree. Game is over, keep him rested for SHU.

Nov 29, 2022 01:36 AM #194

Let’s get weird and play two bigs why not

Nov 29, 2022 01:36 AM #195

JUANDOOOOO

Nov 29, 2022 01:37 AM #196

Pass!ā­ļøā­ļøā­ļø

Nov 29, 2022 01:37 AM #197

MJ having fun tonight I think

Nov 29, 2022 01:37 AM #198

Juan is looking to get both rice and joe going.

Nov 29, 2022 01:38 AM #199

MJ will be torn down and build back up into a champion come March. Baller.

Nov 29, 2022 01:38 AM #200

@Kcmatt7 said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

MJ having fun tonight I think

This game shows just how on/off he can be. First half he was out of it.

Nov 29, 2022 01:38 AM #201

I had no idea he was fast until that play just then.

Nov 29, 2022 01:38 AM #202

Such a fun pm, hmmm what's different? 🤫

Nov 29, 2022 01:39 AM #203

@benshawks08 :hundred_points: same thought

Nov 29, 2022 01:39 AM #204

Give me a freshman big please Bill

Nov 29, 2022 01:39 AM #205

@Crimsonorblue22 said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

Such a fun pm, hmmm what's different? 🤫

They are rested?

Nov 29, 2022 01:39 AM #206

@BShark nope!

Nov 29, 2022 01:39 AM #207

Mia

Nov 29, 2022 01:39 AM #208

Harris might be the most unselfish Jayhawk in a long time... since Jacque Vaughn maybe... Aaron Miles

Nov 29, 2022 01:40 AM #209

@Crimsonorblue22 I know what you are insinuating and I disagree. He would have been good in this game.

Nov 29, 2022 01:40 AM #210

I would like to see Rice do more then shoot but it's nice to see he can do that tonight.

Nov 29, 2022 01:40 AM #211

@BeddieKU23 and that's when he gets more time

Nov 29, 2022 01:41 AM #212

Love this lineup. Not much experience but Juan to hold it together and give them some confidence

Nov 29, 2022 01:41 AM #213

Oh Ernest

Nov 29, 2022 01:42 AM #214

If wilson had gone pro and we didn't get McCullar this would be our starting team

Nov 29, 2022 01:42 AM #215

@FarmerJayhawk said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

Love this lineup. Not much experience but Juan to hold it together and give them some confidence

Almost any line-up with Juan is fine. He stirs the drink.

Nov 29, 2022 01:43 AM #216

U day good D

Nov 29, 2022 01:43 AM #217

See there you go MJ when you play hard good things happen

Nov 29, 2022 01:44 AM #218

Okay put in Jank for Harris and keep him healthy

Nov 29, 2022 01:44 AM #219

OK, that was a foul

Nov 29, 2022 01:44 AM #220

Texas Southern beat Arizona State for their only win and ASU's only loss. ASU has defeated Michigan by 25 which is ranked.

Nov 29, 2022 01:44 AM #221

@BShark said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

@FarmerJayhawk said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

Love this lineup. Not much experience but Juan to hold it together and give them some confidence

Almost any line-up with Juan is fine. He stirs the drink.

Real reason we got spanked by rocky top. They still would have won I think because they short it well but Harris on the bench just kills this team on both ends.

Nov 29, 2022 01:45 AM #222

kuballin10 absent tonight?

Nov 29, 2022 01:45 AM #223

We lost to rocky head because we shot 32%

Nov 29, 2022 01:45 AM #224

@wissox someone needs to take college basketball’s keys and give them some coffee

Nov 29, 2022 01:46 AM #225

@DanR said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

We lost to rocky head because we shot 32%

We shot 32% because Juan was on the bench instead of running the offense.

Nov 29, 2022 01:46 AM #226

@BShark I guess you didn't get me

Nov 29, 2022 01:46 AM #227

@Crimsonorblue22 said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

@BShark I guess you didn't get me

I was wondering when he’d get there.

Nov 29, 2022 01:46 AM #228

Yes MJ Yes

Nov 29, 2022 01:46 AM #229

@Crimsonorblue22 Thought you meant McCullar

Nov 29, 2022 01:47 AM #230

@benshawks08 took the same number of shots as UT. I agree that if Harris had played 30 minutes instead of 18, we would have taken better shots, possibly.

Nov 29, 2022 01:47 AM #231

@BShark no way

Nov 29, 2022 01:47 AM #232

NO JALEN GO BACK

Nov 29, 2022 01:47 AM #233

KJ almost beheads JWill with a pass

Nov 29, 2022 01:47 AM #234

No reason for Jalen to be out there

Nov 29, 2022 01:47 AM #235

KJ SHOOT THE DAMN BALL

Nov 29, 2022 01:48 AM #236

@DanR and guarded that hot shot

Nov 29, 2022 01:48 AM #237

RICE

Nov 29, 2022 01:49 AM #238

@BShark He can't handle it when we win

Nov 29, 2022 01:49 AM #239

@Kcmatt7 said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

KJ SHOOT THE DAMN BALL

NEVER

Nov 29, 2022 01:49 AM #240

Might be trying a lineup combo with Wilson, but seems like he should be sitting

Nov 29, 2022 01:49 AM #241

@BShark said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

@Kcmatt7 said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

KJ SHOOT THE DAMN BALL

NEVER

DUNK DISH OR DIE

Nov 29, 2022 01:49 AM #242

Rice looks gassed lol.

Nov 29, 2022 01:49 AM #243

@Kcmatt7 said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

Rice looks gassed lol.

Steamed.

Nov 29, 2022 01:50 AM #244

@approxinfinity fried?

Nov 29, 2022 01:50 AM #245

@Crimsonorblue22 said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

Such a fun pm, hmmm what's different? 🤫

Allen Fieldhouse

Nov 29, 2022 01:50 AM #246

Dick jokes and Rice jokes. We got them.

Nov 29, 2022 01:51 AM #247

When does the MJ>McCullar talk start? Because I’m almost there myself

Nov 29, 2022 01:51 AM #248

@tundrahok said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

@Crimsonorblue22 said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

Such a fun pm, hmmm what's different? 🤫

Allen Fieldhouse

Saw a stat about Jalens 3 pt % in Allen vs away and it’s massive.

Nov 29, 2022 01:51 AM #249

@Kcmatt7 stay strong Matt

Nov 29, 2022 01:52 AM #250

Joe's speed is really nice...

Nov 29, 2022 01:52 AM #251

Dig it Yes

Nov 29, 2022 01:52 AM #252

Anyone know why Jalen Wilson was playing till just now.

Rice has a nice FT stroke tonight, as does the team

Nov 29, 2022 01:52 AM #253

Just let Dave do his thing for the last few minutes. He’s earned it

Nov 29, 2022 01:52 AM #254

Yesufu with back to back double figure games. Perhaps he is ready to give us a serious role off the bench

Nov 29, 2022 01:53 AM #255

Jank sighting.

Nov 29, 2022 01:53 AM #256

MJ is stepping up!

Nov 29, 2022 01:53 AM #257

@FarmerJayhawk said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

@Kcmatt7 stay strong Matt

Okay sorry I’m officially MJ fan club.

Nov 29, 2022 01:53 AM #258

MJ a right handed Oubre?

Nov 29, 2022 01:53 AM #259

@Kcmatt7 fiiiiine šŸ˜‚

Nov 29, 2022 01:54 AM #260

Jank just tanked his PER

Nov 29, 2022 01:54 AM #261

@BeddieKU23 said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

Jank just tanked his PER

I’m devastated.

Nov 29, 2022 01:54 AM #262

Alright, he got the board!

Nov 29, 2022 01:54 AM #263

Joe is ON FIRE

Nov 29, 2022 01:54 AM #264

@Kcmatt7 SHU prediction

Kevin minutes: 35

MJ minutes: 4

Nov 29, 2022 01:54 AM #265

Yes just needed some extended run to find his groove? Let’s hope.

Nov 29, 2022 01:55 AM #266

Lotta name dropping, Dave

Nov 29, 2022 01:55 AM #267

Gotta see the ball guys!

Nov 29, 2022 01:55 AM #268

Oh no Dave is making me weepy

Nov 29, 2022 01:56 AM #269

Dang I post about good FT's and then we miss 3 in a row.

Nov 29, 2022 01:56 AM #270

Is this three bigs and Jank???

Nov 29, 2022 01:56 AM #271

MJ had 19 in the 2nd half..

Nov 29, 2022 01:56 AM #272

@wissox said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

Dang I post about good FT's and then we miss 3 in a row.

4, uh 5 in a row

Nov 29, 2022 01:56 AM #273

So Nick from now on?

Nov 29, 2022 01:57 AM #274

@BeddieKU23 said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

MJ had 19 in the 2nd half..

Is that good?

Nov 29, 2022 01:57 AM #275

Bill should bring Dave back for senior night

Nov 29, 2022 01:57 AM #276

Thanks Dave

Nov 29, 2022 01:57 AM #277

Good help U day!

Nov 29, 2022 01:57 AM #278

We'll miss you, Dave.

Nov 29, 2022 01:57 AM #279

@benshawks08 said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

@BeddieKU23 said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

MJ had 19 in the 2nd half..

Is that good?

Promising. Need him healthy and ready

Nov 29, 2022 01:57 AM #280

Finally covered a spread

Nov 29, 2022 02:00 AM #281

Bill says Wow! That's funny.

Nov 29, 2022 02:00 AM #282

MJ put up 19 points on 9 FGA… Kevin could never

Nov 29, 2022 02:00 AM #283

Jalen had 6 assists. I think this is an area of his game he will have to use as the season goes on. He has a complete game when he wants to

Nov 29, 2022 02:01 AM #284

@BeddieKU23 nice to run some offense

Nov 29, 2022 02:03 AM #285

Yesufu’s final shot (the 3) caused the game total points to go over 141. O/U at 141 only had 6% with the over. Money changed hands on that shot! šŸ¾

Nov 29, 2022 02:07 AM #286

@DanR great idea!

Nov 29, 2022 02:08 AM #287

@Crimsonorblue22 said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

@BeddieKU23 nice to run some offense

Was mostly street ball with Norm. Beat Duke with street ball WOW SAD FOR DUKE.

Nov 29, 2022 02:16 AM #288

@BShark Duke is not good and it brings me much joy

Nov 29, 2022 02:17 AM #289

Love seeing Joe Dooley on the bench.

Nov 29, 2022 02:18 AM #290

@Kcmatt7 said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

When does the MJ>McCullar talk start? Because I’m almost there myself

Depends on which end of the floor. MJ is the better offensive player, but McCullar is the better defensive player. Really might just come down to what KU's needs are on a given night who should get the crunch time minutes.

Nov 29, 2022 02:20 AM #291

Also, didn't realize Shaq's son was on TSU.

Nov 29, 2022 02:22 AM #292

@Texas-Hawk-10 they talked about him in pregame, basically said shaq wasn't treating him special. I didn't notice him playing. Is he the one that had heart surgery?

Nov 29, 2022 02:23 AM #293

Now all we have to do is translate this to Thursday - just a little step up in the opponent come Thursday. Let's see how MJ handles/plays against Seton Hall - - See if Joe can continue a upward swing , competition little stiffer

Nov 29, 2022 02:28 AM #294

I don't like our starters playing 30 minutes in this game, even with McCullar out. Yesufu doesn't bother me playing those minutes because he had to play multiple roles tonight, but definitely would've preferred Harris and Wilson being around 25 minutes.

It's also concerning that in a game like this, Clemence, Ejiofor, and Udeh played a combined 28 minutes and only took 3 shots. It's looking more and more like tge 5 spot is going to be an even bigger black hole on offense than when Landen Lucas was playing.

Hopefully this was Rice's coming out party and he can be the spark off the bench KU needs, but the 5 spot should be an even bigger concern after tonight's lack of offense behind KJ.

Nov 29, 2022 02:29 AM #295

I'm still scratching my head trying to figure out how this team can score more than 57 points per game

Nov 29, 2022 02:30 AM #296

Rice just said he didn't have covid, just kidney stones. More to the story.

Nov 29, 2022 02:32 AM #297

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

I don't like our starters playing 30 minutes in this game, even with McCullar out. Yesufu doesn't bother me playing those minutes because he had to play multiple roles tonight, but definitely would've preferred Harris and Wilson being around 25 minutes.

It's also concerning that in a game like this, Clemence, Ejiofor, and Udeh played a combined 28 minutes and only took 3 shots. It's looking more and more like tge 5 spot is going to be an even bigger black hole on offense than when Landen Lucas was playing.

Hopefully this was Rice's coming out party and he can be the spark off the bench KU needs, but the 5 spot should be an even bigger concern after tonight's lack of offense behind KJ.

I noticed in this game , that there were times when Ernest & Zuby were on the floor they didn't even begin to look at the basket - -looked like they just wanted to get the ball out of their hands as fast as they could , our 5 spot is gonna have to get something done. - -I DID notice tonight like had been mentioned - -did KJ get a single rebound ?-- I'm not sure , been brought to our attention before about that but tonight stuck out to me for sure

Nov 29, 2022 02:39 AM #298

@jayballer67 none of our bigs seem to have the timing and judgment to know how to both rim protect and rebound. Right now they try to block almost everything but do so in a way that takes them completely out of position for any rebound. Zuby seems like the only one who knows when to start fighting for rebounds as he actually tries to get position when the shot goes up. The rest wait for the shot to hit the rim, then try to fight if they haven’t already flown out of bounds trying to swat it but it’s already too late at that point.

I still think Udeh is the best bet there but he needs some serious practice time and coaching to figure some of those fundamentals out.

Kj plays because he at least doesn’t wreck the flow of the offense and can switch enough to cause some havoc on defense. Plus he always plays his tail off.

Nov 29, 2022 02:42 AM #299

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

I don't like our starters playing 30 minutes in this game, even with McCullar out. Yesufu doesn't bother me playing those minutes because he had to play multiple roles tonight, but definitely would've preferred Harris and Wilson being around 25 minutes.

It's also concerning that in a game like this, Clemence, Ejiofor, and Udeh played a combined 28 minutes and only took 3 shots. It's looking more and more like tge 5 spot is going to be an even bigger black hole on offense than when Landen Lucas was playing.

Hopefully this was Rice's coming out party and he can be the spark off the bench KU needs, but the 5 spot should be an even bigger concern after tonight's lack of offense behind KJ.

Looked to me the goal was to get rice and joe going and unfortunately the bigs outside of kj just aren’t there yet to allow the game to flow when they are out there.

Seems like it’s been a while since our bigs were this raw.

But of course we complained all last year that Dave was terrible and could never be the five on a truly great team but then he goes and basically dominates the final four. So what do we know?

Nov 29, 2022 02:59 AM #300

We saw last week that KU needs MJ Rice as an offensive threat. You can't survive the entire season with only two solid scorers. You need three. Wilson, Dick and Rice is much better than just Wilson and Dick to open up the floor.

Throw Yesufu and McCullar in as secondary options and that's a functional offense.

Only thing left is finding some rim protection from Udeh or Ejifor. But that may come with time.

Nov 29, 2022 03:03 AM #301

It really is amazing how horrible big men are as freshmen. I don't know if it's just that they finally play against guys their own height or if pre-college coaching for bigs is non-existent. Sure, they make a big dunk or impressive block once in a while, but otherwise they're like a chunk of gravel stuck in the machinery

Nov 29, 2022 03:49 AM #302

Pre college coaching for most is not great, for all players. A coach told me, a past player that had good coaching said he was so far ahead just because of that.

Nov 29, 2022 04:56 AM #303

Very, very happy the MJ got lots of run. Very happy.

Even happier that he came to life offensively. Smooth. Defensively ALL the frosh need some work.

It was a pretty laid back, no pressure game. No complaints. Even Joe looked like he belonged out there! (Ha)

Almost even shed a tear for Dave Armstrong. Almost.

How does everybody feel Nick Bahe? Who’s he gonna partner up with?

Nov 29, 2022 04:58 AM #304

@Kcmatt7 said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

@DanR that is the rumor. Seems more like he is a ā€œwhen it’s good it’s good when it’s bad it’s badā€ kind of guy to me

It’s odd because he seems pretty composed on the court.

Nov 29, 2022 10:00 AM #305

MJ had 19, good to see him score even if it was overmatched competition. It feels important to get him to where he could potentially be the off-the-bench scorer with Yesufu. Joe with his 2nd positive game in a row as well. Perhaps these two will be trending up now.

MJ had 1 hustle play in the game winning a 50/50 ball. Not much else, I focused on his D and ball movement because it's not just scoring that will get you minutes here. It looks like he's really behind on the details and hasn't had a ton of practice time due to injury/etc. The next step for MJ is seeing what he can do against P5 competition. I hope he gets some burn Thursday.

Nov 29, 2022 12:17 PM #306

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

I don't like our starters playing 30 minutes in this game, even with McCullar out. Yesufu doesn't bother me playing those minutes because he had to play multiple roles tonight, but definitely would've preferred Harris and Wilson being around 25 minutes.

It's also concerning that in a game like this, Clemence, Ejiofor, and Udeh played a combined 28 minutes and only took 3 shots. It's looking more and more like tge 5 spot is going to be an even bigger black hole on offense than when Landen Lucas was playing.

Hopefully this was Rice's coming out party and he can be the spark off the bench KU needs, but the 5 spot should be an even bigger concern after tonight's lack of offense behind KJ.

The main issue is KU simply did not have many scholarship players to go to off the bench. With Bob, Kevin and Cuffe (not that I think he is a factor but still he is on the roster) hurt KU had 6 scholarship guys at guard/wing. So we basically only had Rice on the bench. I think the guard and wing minutes were managed about as well as they could be. The only way to get them lower would have meant playing Jank before garbage time.

With the post I also would have liked to see a bit less KJ but they did also slide him to the 4 at times to help buy rest for our wings as well. It was a difficult balance, hopefully Kevin can go against SHU.

Nov 29, 2022 12:19 PM #307

@Crimsonorblue22 said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

Rice just said he didn't have covid, just kidney stones. More to the story.

Kidney stones are a lot to deal with, and kinda crazy at his age.

Nov 29, 2022 12:29 PM #308

@Crimsonorblue22 said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

Pre college coaching for most is not great, for all players. A coach told me, a past player that had good coaching said he was so far ahead just because of that.

Prep schools are a good idea for most high level kids. Coaching and competition levels are much better than you get playing regular HS ball.

Two of our signees this year are at prep schools. Chris is at one of the best in Montverde and Elmarko is going to South Kent School. Sounded like distance from home was important for him. Would imagine his mom moves to Kansas during his time here.

Sunrise definitely helped Gradey. MJ was at Prolific and Oak Hill so he bounced around a bit.

Nov 29, 2022 12:31 PM #309

@rockchalkjayhawk said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

Defensively ALL the frosh need some work.

I feel like Bill would bench Gradey more at times if he could get away with it lol.

Nov 29, 2022 02:26 PM #310

@BShark collegiate also had a good coach

Nov 29, 2022 04:47 PM #311

@DanR said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

It really is amazing how horrible big men are as freshmen. I don't know if it's just that they finally play against guys their own height or if pre-college coaching for bigs is non-existent. Sure, they make a big dunk or impressive block once in a while, but otherwise they're like a chunk of gravel stuck in the machinery

It's all of those things combined.

In HS, other than on the AAU circuit, you're unlikely to see another big man that is both as skilled as you are (if you are a legit D1 prospect) and also as big as you. The overwhelming majority of HS players will never even sniff D1, so even D1 level guards will only see a handful of matchups each year during the HS season that really test them. But those are at least quality tests because if you're 6-2 or 6-3, you will see guys that are similar in height. If you're 6-9, not so much.

Most HS coaches are not very good. The better ones are strong fundamentally, but aren't very advanced. Probably only the best 0.01% of HS coaches can really teach a D1 prospect what they need to know to succeed at the next level. Everyone else you just hope they don't screw the player up with bad habits or fundamentals. Even the top HS coaches don't have the time to cover the advanced stuff because you may only have one or two guys that can actually get that stuff. The majority of your HS players need to learn the fundamentals. A D1 player that only has good fundamentals and hasn't moved on to more advanced stuff will look lost on PnR, rebound positioning, crossing actions, etc. And everything is faster, so those fundamentals will get sped up.

And coaching bigs is harder, anyway because most HS coaches were not big men, so you have a guard teaching a big guy. Our best big man development at KU happened under Danny Manning, which is not an accident. Since then, our guards have developed more quickly, but that's no surprise on a staff full of guards. Most big men have never been coached by a good big man coach until they arrive in college.

Nov 29, 2022 10:18 PM #312

Telling MJ quote?

ā€œIt’s a process,ā€ he said after Monday’s win. ā€œWhether I like it or not, it’s a process. Where I’m trying to go, I’ve got to be mentally strong, so it’s just preparing me.ā€

Nov 30, 2022 12:13 AM #313

@rockchalkjayhawk was this in post game? Or, with kennetra?

Nov 30, 2022 04:40 AM #314

@Crimsonorblue22 said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

@rockchalkjayhawk was this in post game? Or, with kennetra?

Post game on Monday at some point. I don’t think it was with Kennetra though. I saw that. He seems pretty composed.

Nov 30, 2022 02:18 PM #315

@rockchalkjayhawk did you hear him say he didn't have covid? Weird, hmmmm

Nov 30, 2022 05:01 PM #316

@Crimsonorblue22 said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

@rockchalkjayhawk did you hear him say he didn't have covid? Weird, hmmmm

Yup, the weirdness gets weirder!

Nov 30, 2022 07:08 PM #317

@DanR said in Texas Southern Game Thread:

It really is amazing how horrible big men are as freshmen. I don’t know if it’s just that they finally play against guys their own height or if pre-college coaching for bigs is non-existent. Sure, they make a big dunk or impressive block once in a while, but otherwise they’re like a chunk of gravel stuck in the machinery

Wooden had to teach Bill Walton how to tie his shoes when he arrived at UCLA. I kid you not. Also... Walton would show up to practice in pajamas. You can't make this stuff up...

I know he earned the title "the crazy redhead" but it speaks for the generalization about bigs.

Nov 30, 2022 07:11 PM #318

I know Texas Southern is a cakewalk.... but we are already seeing gains after the Tennessee loss.

Buckle up, JHawk fans!

Nov 30, 2022 08:06 PM #319

@drgnslayr This team is definitely experiencing adversity which is good for their development at this point. The loss followed by the injuries really is forcing guys to step it up. We will see who rises to the challenge and that will dictate how the rest of the season goes.

But no one can rise to a challenge until it is presented. This is the fun part!