Well after the Tuesday fiasco where only 3 players decided to try to score and two of them were fouled out by the refs, I sure hope all our starters look to score and KU gets some help from the bench. In OT, it was Wilson against all 5 Cats. Jeez. I like that when Gradey's 3 isn't falling, he finds other ways to try to score. Juan and Kevin have got to score some points today.
Just win
OK Kevin Redemption
Man this a big game
My heart can't handle another 1 possession game lol
I hope to hell we don't et the guys that ref'd the KSU game. 49 freaking fouls and not a sigle offnsive one called
Good start
Lol Gradey.
Gradey did say he helps to much
Wait. What happened on the call with Grady driving to the hoop?
Called walk
Juan!
Donāt see that happen to Kevin very often.
Nice
Kevin beat twiceā¦
Gradey just get there! Don't slap
Might hit 200 pts at this pace lol
Is Kevin now struggling defensively?! Least heās made a few buckets.
Kevin has given up about 12 points so far.
Another redic turnover there
Jalen might have 40 today so let's keep getting him good looks
@Eric-san said in Just Beat the TCU Horned Lizards, Please:
Might hit 200 pts at this pace lol
Feels like a defense optional start for both teams.
Just a track meet right now. - - They make one - - we come back up you one- - -we make one - -they come back we up you one. - -still to many easy looks for them right now. oh ya one other thing - - - umm GRADY ? - - -HELLO
LFG
I'm in my shop and have limited access to post.
Bur I am so here for a win.
Alright...let's play some defense, guys...
TCU 7/8 and KU 5/6 field Goals
Wowza
Ku doesn't have a rebound yet
KJ may be first team all conference. Heās been so good.
There have only been 2 rebounds. 3 now
@BeddieKU23 said in Just Beat the TCU Horned Lizards, Please:
Ku doesn't have a rebound yet
Misses have to happen first.
KU loses out on some long rebounds on the offensive end because our guards are already cheating down court on defense before the frogs even have the ball
Lay up bugā¦
now we're getting killed on the boards
this is comical.
Here we go again can't make shots
@BeddieKU23 AND the other team canāt miss.
@benshawks08 well, we missed a few on our end
MJ sighting.
Have to match
Is that one or two on kj?
Yikes.
It's called a pass
Good job guys
Sucks that MJ comes in and thereās an immediate run the wrong way. Donāt think much of it is on him but hard to separate those two things.
sOOOO HOW IS EVERYONE ENJOYING THIS SHIT SHOW
Gotta figure they'll cool off, but these turnovers are bad
@benshawks08 4/5 from three. I don't remember them missing one. Seems more like 9/10
Same old first half story. Go down 15 ish then try to get back within 5 by half
Hurts my feelings to hear my son say "Kansas is not very good" lol
Not our day.
@Eric-san said in Just Beat the TCU Horned Lizards, Please:
Hurts my feelings to hear my son say "Kansas is not very good" lol
tHEY ARE not - - NOT NOW THAT'S FOR DAM SURE
"Topeka YMCA" game redux.
Gonna be a hell of a comeback
Hold them to 50 at the half.
Horrible travel call
Make the freebies and try to get them to start shooting 10% instead of 75%
Lol non call on Jalen
here we go
Well heck Grad3y!
@Eric-san said in Just Beat the TCU Horned Lizards, Please:
Lol non call on Jalen
ya Miles wlks on one end - -then Jalen walks on the other- -where have decent ref's gone
Was hoping to see a pinstripe suit on Wright
@jayballer67 They went to the Higgins school of officiating
LETS GO WILSON
yep1
come on gradey
The dozer drive.
Hope these guys know they can't let up any possession. Zach is on board
Wow what a sequence!
Not giving up, not quitting
Zach attack.
Get the deficit to single digits before halftime and KU will finish the job in the second half
Zach for the most part is just standing around
Not there
It's Zach's birthday today
RCJH
Believe
right place to stand around, LOL
Even if we can get this down to like 8 by half- - I'll take our chances in the 2nd after some really rough stretches in the 1st
Have there been any real TV timeouts this half?
@Crimsonorblue22 no snow here
37 degrees so I doubt it will be a problem
@Crimsonorblue22 Send some snow to Chicago!
Get it to clemence
Pretty wet snow!
Lamkin has little legs for such a big dude
That 5 on 4 was horrible execution
Lampkin hurt himself on the jump. Probably a calf injury. Either way, huge for KU because he was killing the defense.
Clemence was wide open
You just can't make stupid turnovers like that when we're losing by 14 points
Kevin leading the break is an automatic turnover
Kevin is the worst transition guard I've ever seen
1 break
Going into 2H with single digit deficit is a win
This TCU team reminds me of the way Baylor played when they started getting good.
Need a 3
Want a 3
Nose a 3
Jalen with 21
Without Lampkin, there is ZERO reason to not come back and win the game.
We'll take a two
Big time JALEN
It's manageable now
Wow. Hello Mr. Wilson.
This team likes to make things hard on themselves š
Feels like we come out and blow them away, especially if Lampkin canāt come back.
Jalen playing himself into POY favorite?
I - -WILL TAKE THAT. - -All things considered, we were buried by 22 points, -- - - -got it to 10. Whole half to play, -Thank God for Jalen
@BeddieKU23 if Dick or Juando hit their open looks this half too.
Statistically, this game should be closer. TCU still shoooting 59% to KU's 45% is the only real difference (gave them to many easy layups during that big run they had).
We can definitely still win this one. Dick has to hit some shots
@Kcmatt7 said in Just Beat the TCU Horned Lizards, Please:
@BeddieKU23 if Dick or Juando hit their open looks this half too.
Both are struggling mightily
TCU is a horrible 3-point shooting team, but they are hitting today.
Hopefully they come back down to earth in the 2nd half
Foul trouble is looming so get it every possession. Turnovers (bad passes) get them running and that's bad,
KJ didnāt take advantage of his mismatch well enough 1st half either. Expecting 10 from him this half.
@KirkIsMyHinrich 28.7 for the season 66.7 today
Kevin avoiding fouls and 4/4 from the field is a welcome sight.
Seems linesmakers don't think KU is going to win this game. I'll take the -10.5 2H at +150.
@BeddieKU23 said in Just Beat the TCU Horned Lizards, Please:
@Kcmatt7 said in Just Beat the TCU Horned Lizards, Please:
@BeddieKU23 if Dick or Juando hit their open looks this half too.
Both are struggling mightily
I want Juan to take shots , we need Juan to be a threat to a point, BUT on the other hand at times when he shoots a three it's like giving the other team a pass - - Double edge sword. - - Grady has got to come out of his funk
First Five Minutes of this 2nd half gonna be huge. Can't let TCU go on another big run - - cut it to like 6 by the 1st TV time out then we roll
@jessejayhawk said in Just Beat the TCU Horned Lizards, Please:
@KirkIsMyHinrich 28.7 for the season 66.7 today
Good for 348/363 in D1. They average 5 makes a game
We ARE down 10 so we may need help from the refs. If this becomes a foul foul foul half it may slow them down. we can't give up more than 30.
nice job Kev
Traveling. All I know is the score. - KU doing ok at all?
WTF Gradey gets m
hammmered and KJ gets a ticky tack
Kev got mauled, ref
Wasting possessions and time.
Getting bullied in the post
gradey and kevin are both gun shy now
SHOOT IT
Kevin would've shot that in previous games.
a tale of two ends of the court with these refs
Good job kj and coaches. What a shitshow
That wasn't a foul, but KJ with bad hand positioning with that made it look like a foul.
9 fouls on KJ in the last 1.5 games...
Juando is still not at 100% mentally
Great job juan
Hard to win with nobody who can shoot but wilson
just EXACTLY the opposite of what we needed- - -not good at all. Grady is just not hitting his shot these last few games
Harris dick and adams are 2-16. Gotta change
It's over without some heroic production from deep.
@BeddieKU23 Eagle jusr said Kevin and Juan donāt even look to score
Not acceptable for KU level guards
Great D bad O
@BeddieKU23 Adamās getting screwed by the whistle donāt lump him on that group
@Zabudda knew we wouldnāt go undefeated after we labored against bad big 12 teams
@Texas-Hawk-10 should have seen it
wilson was bound to cool off. Time to step it up the rest of you guys
next five minutes are huge
Defense is doing their part this half so far, but have to start making some shots.
Udeh has done a couple good things
Udeh!
Awesome pass to no one juan
I miss having Remy
We're a one man team today and TCU has decided not to let that man beat them today now. So essentially we're screwed. I don't see how we're coming back in this one. What's with all those empty seats behind the basket? Entire section is empty. Maybe that's the problem.
@kuballin10 said in Just Beat the TCU Horned Lizards, Please:
@Zabudda knew we wouldnāt go undefeated after we labored against bad big 12 teams
@Texas-Hawk-10 should have seen it
Thatās only happened once. Donāt know why anyone would expect an undefeated league season.
McCullar refuses to shoot. What's the point then
Have to make a move now or this game is out of reach
And it canāt just all be Jalen. Someone else has to make a damn shot
what are we shooting this half 3 for 15?
Jalen has 25 points and the rest of the team has 19. That has to change quickly
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Just Beat the TCU Horned Lizards, Please:
Jalen has 25 points and the rest of the team has 19. That has to change quickly
How tho? These guys can't shoot
Go small and press full court
Well guys , we got ourselves in a bad spot. - - We have 2/3 o our scores not scoring - - Kevin & Grady- - We have our point guard now urning the ball over - - we gonna be a game back and having to go to Baylor - - it's got really ugly
Games like this are only survivable as fans because we're the defending national champions.
Lucky that wasn't a charge on Wilson
Wilson is so good.
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Just Beat the TCU Horned Lizards, Please:
Lucky that wasn't a charge on Wilson
Not the Miles drive, the possession before where Wilson ran someone over.
We have missed 86 shots at the rim today.
Is Zuby hurt or just not playing?
that pass sucked, Lamkin
I'm glad you all have the Chiefs game to look forward to today.
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Just Beat the TCU Horned Lizards, Please:
Is Zuby hurt or just not playing?
Not playing - -got to be frustrating for Jalen- -- only one scoring
Pity foul call on Kansas.
It's painful, people
TCU straight up just spanked the Jayhawk ass today kinda embarrassing get beat like this at home
Gradey has fallen off hard
Gradey shooting like an overrated 5 star today.
I'm not giving creidt to TCU for us missing wide open shots
@BeddieKU23 said in Just Beat the TCU Horned Lizards, Please:
Gradey has fallen off hard
Things not looking good at all on the home front
Nobody has confidence to shoot the ball. Not sure what self has to do here
Hi ankle sprain my ass
@DanR said in Just Beat the TCU Horned Lizards, Please:
I'm not giving creidt to TCU for us missing wide open shots
TCU has played out of their minds today. They've made a very good defense look like garbage today.
Ya we just suck today. I hope we get better soon
@DanR said in Just Beat the TCU Horned Lizards, Please:
I'm not giving creidt to TCU for us missing wide open shots
just another ugly game shooting the ball - - Now Grady & Kevin not doing squat - -makes this team not good
@BeddieKU23 said in Just Beat the TCU Horned Lizards, Please:
Nobody has confidence to shoot the ball. Not sure what self has to do here
Give Yesufu a green light since he has no issues shooting and hopefully he makes some shots.
@Crimsonorblue22 Your ass ? that's a really high ankle sprain.LOL
@jayballer67 need another wake up call in case 1 point loss didnāt get their attention
Juan gets pass from Joe wide open drives not even looking at the rim and didnāt even shoot the 3
Juan turns it around with Kev and we will be good if not, big 12 gonna won by someone else
@BeddieKU23 was always unsustainable. But this is the stretch if the schedule we canāt have this
Put Zach the jack in to launch a few.
There you go brick another layup
@Kcmatt7 said in Just Beat the TCU Horned Lizards, Please:
@DanR trying to give up 100 points to them though is the real problem
TCU won't sniff 100 today, probably ends up somewhere around 80-85.
Good job kev! Bricked your last how many shots
@BeddieKU23 every fucking one
Good job gradey! Awesome brick
Crowd filing out early. Wow.
Not our day.
@Zabudda said in Just Beat the TCU Horned Lizards, Please:
Put Zach the jack in to launch a few.
Screw that -he as you say LAUNCHED ONE- - - UGLY UGLY and you see what happened-- he got his ass taken BACK to the Bench
plain & Simple - -we got issues. -- Again - - No Bench , Players not hitting open shots - - Not defending - - poor defense - shall we continue?
Harris, Dick, and KJ are a combined 3/22 from the field and our bench is 1/5 from the field. Just nobody producing outside of Wilson today
need a 22 point run here
by KU
@jayballer67
Yep we all have watched this game too. Won't be Udeh, KJ or Zuby so why not?
walk on time. Might as well rest these guys a little bit
Gradey hit a three!!
We now drop to about 10th - -that really matter actually but just a side point.-- - Thing is guys , what does Coach do ? - -Lots of issues
@DanR said in Just Beat the TCU Horned Lizards, Please:
Gradey hit a three!!
WOO - - HOO- -YA BUDDDDDY drain the three when we down 25, sorry just really frustrated I apologize, the guys are really struggling and it's not getting any better. -Guess time to watch KC
Wilson B2B 30's.
TT leading ksu
This game here more then any this year is where we really miss our boys - - Oachi - - - Christan - -& Big Dave. - -If we got Dave & Christan back would sure the hell helped - - this wouldn't of happened
Either this will be our Kentucky game of last year or this team is broken.
Been off the chat for a while. Is the sky falling yet?
Down 24 and playing juan. Sometimes you just don't get it
@BeddieKU23 said in Just Beat the TCU Horned Lizards, Please:
Either this will be our Kentucky game of last year or this team is broken.
Look out in Lexington cause UK looks like these last couple of games they turning it around - - & we are sucking buttermilk
Easy fix: guys not named Jalen F-ing Wilson have to start making some shots. We've taken 4 more shots than TCU.
@benshawks08 said in Just Beat the TCU Horned Lizards, Please:
Been off the chat for a while. Is the sky falling yet?
Collapsed
Soft
just total embarrassment today - -Beddie not broken but Major damage
Definitely looked like last year's Kentucky game. Inexplicablelol.
You get your ass handed to you this bad - - hard to try and defend the guys
Hoping for better vibes at Arrowhead.
@nwhawkfan said in Just Beat the TCU Horned Lizards, Please:
Hoping for better vibes at Arrowhead.
We should start a new thread for that game. This one has bad mojo all over it
Well that's over. It's "take that hill Marines" from now on.
At least it wasn't a one possesion nailbiter but it still fucked with my blood pressure
@DanR season turned out alright
This one isnāt over but no bench and your starting pg doesnāt look to score thatās a problem. This team isnāt built for Juan to defer.
Heck our 2 guard even shoot a 3? Our backup 2 guard is more passive than Juan (Bobby).
Bills got his work cutout
@jayballer67 gonna be worse when we lose at Baylor and come home with another tough game against ksu
Tired team. No motivation. This is what I saw for about 32 minutes of this game -
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No chip. Will this blowout make one? Perhaps. But I fear we still have more to suffer through first.
I'm not giving up on them!
Right on!
We only played about 8 minutes of amped basketball and we cut their lead in half. The rest of the game they killed us.
Why we didn't keep up the better energy? My guess is we are a tired team. But just getting rest won't make us a contender. We have to play with a chip.
JWil is our only guy who brought a chip with him this year. It's why he told Self he is ready to lead this team.
I don't think it will take too much to get Kevin on that thought level, but he has to defeat his low confidence.
I'm not sure what is up with Juan. Maybe just tired.
KJ is awesome... but is still really like a freshman with his experience. Gradey is a freshman!
The rest of the team... not sure where their heads are at.
This is the perfect time of year to suffer... with time to heal and kick butt! Just like last year!
Well that kinda sucked.
I wanted to say the offense is simply challenged, outside of Jalen. But dang, we gave up 48 points in the first half!! 48!
Where do you place the blame?
If Gradey is not scoring, we have big problems. Somebody, anybody, has to step up.
At one point, in kind words, Jay Wright basically said Kevin McCullar sucks and has to get his shit together. At least he got to double digits in scoring. The game started poorly when he got smoked three or four times in a row on defense. blow bys and poor D.
TCU went nine deep, and every player had at least 4 points. I dunno what that means, but i know the Kansas bench can't score.
I know Self likes a defensive minded team, but at some point you have to realize that Jalen can't be the only scoring option on the floor to win games. Dajuan and Pettiford can't be non factors on offense. Everybody has to help out or we'll be in tight games, or worse.
Grrr.
Well as if we didn't already know - -our weakness has really showed it's ugly head- - We have NO BENCH. OUR THREE BIGS- - --- -have no experience, & it shows - -We have a kid that has shown he can but he is and illness/injury looking for a place to happen. - -You put that together when you have two out of your three proven Scorers can't throw it in the Ocean right now - - - your in Serious Trouble. We CAN NOT I repeat CAN NOT expect for Jalen to have to score like he has even game out - -We Scored 60 - - fricken 60 & Jalen scores 32 of those 60. - That is a sure recipe for sure disaster - if that happens.-- - Coach has work to do
We got a PG that has got his confidence shaken - and it's showing--- turning the ball over Silly passes - - - missing wide open shots when he does shoot- - time to throw this tape away - this was one of those YMCA games on our part - -got re-group - - re-focus
We will be fine, it is still early, lot of ball still to be played.
I have faith in Self.
He will find a way to ride the ship.
Isu lost
@Crimsonorblue22 said in Just Beat the TCU Horned Lizards, Please:
Where's @BShark
He quit before the game even started, a personal record for him!!
I don't know how DaJuan made 8 in a row earlier this year because his 3 point shot still has shades of 8th grader who hasn't blossomed into manhood yet look.
We have a game like this every year. People forget we're in a rebuild year after winning the national championship. We're still a good team but we're going to lose every time we defend like that. On to the next one- hopefully we can have a good game against Baylor.
Kids sports all day. Guess I missed an ugly one. Will watch later. Hope you guys are hanging in there.
@approxinfinity nope
@approxinfinity dude - don't watch that crap later. Watch something uplifting like Saw, Se7en or the Dahmer series.
Harris doesn't necessarily need to score for KU to win, but he has to be an aggressive playmaker and he's playing very passively since he banged his head against KSU. He's got to get back to being a playmaker and stop playing passive basketball.
We can get 20 from Wilson, 15 from Gradey and 30 from KJ/Juan/Kevin. That's 65 and bench points could be 10 more to make 75. That would be a narrow margin but is that enough? Contributions from all needed night in and night out. It's going to be a long hard road with more home losses a real possibility.
What can change to make us better and avoid being in a last possession game on a regular basis? If we improve our bench scoring to the 10 point level we may be circa a seven loss team.
Self in post game was pretty blunt that we donāt have the horses to win games playing poor defense.
I think heās pretty much seeing what fans are. We need to become a top 5 defense to become an actual contender for the league or in March. Not sure where the pressure heavy great transition team went that we had in November and December went. Need to find it again.
@drgnslayr said in Just Beat the TCU Horned Lizards, Please:
Right on!
We only played about 8 minutes of amped basketball and we cut their lead in half. The rest of the game they killed us.
Why we didn't keep up the better energy? My guess is we are a tired team. But just getting rest won't make us a contender. We have to play with a chip.
JWil is our only guy who brought a chip with him this year. It's why he told Self he is ready to lead this team.
I don't think it will take too much to get Kevin on that thought level, but he has to defeat his low confidence.
I'm not sure what is up with Juan. Maybe just tired.
KJ is awesome... but is still really like a freshman with his experience. Gradey is a freshman!
The rest of the team... not sure where their heads are at.
This is the perfect time of year to suffer... with time to heal and kick butt! Just like last year!
Bill said basically that we canāt play without a lead because we basically arenāt talented enough offensively or deep enough to chase.
Also said Juan is tired playing 40 but we donāt have a bench option performing well enough to not play him 40
@Kcmatt7 said in Just Beat the TCU Horned Lizards, Please:
Self in post game was pretty blunt that we donāt have the horses to win games playing poor defense.
I think heās pretty much seeing what fans are. We need to become a top 5 defense to become an actual contender for the league or in March. Not sure where the pressure heavy great transition team went that we had in November and December went. Need to find it again.
Not sure either. Could be part of the problem with that is tired legs possibly, just s mentioned- - Starters having to play so many minutes - -I dunno might be part of the problem - - just not as much spring.
@Crimsonorblue22 Just saying his shot looks like a jr. highers, which I've been saying on these pages for years.
Offense will come around if we start playing defense.
That's the worst defense we've played all year. And when we finally picked it up just a little bit, we went on an 11-0 run.
Many in here still don't realize.... we get our offense rolling by playing good defense. It creates TOs which turn into easy points, which also helps our guys get into an offensive groove.
We are being exposed in the Big 12 for being a team that doesn't want it as bad as other teams. It's not like we have a bunch of narcissists... we just don't have the hunger level enough to win against teams at a certain skill level.
That all changes if we suddenly get hungry.
I know our bench is slim... but our starting 5 can beat any team in the country if they want it bad enough.
Maybe that comes after a few more beatdowns. Maybe.
Personally, I think our starting 5 has the DNA to step up and start kicking arse again. Question is... WHEN?
Sorry folks. It turns out my viewership is the glue that holds the team together. š Wonāt miss another game.
