It looks like our coaches are fine with just having one year players now. So every year moving forward we may only have 1 or 2 guys returning. We’ve never been known as a system built for one year players. Anyone know if our coaching style is adapting now to this situation? How do we prevent outcomes like the last two years? Seems pie-in-the-sky to think we can just recruit enough to find the promised land!
@drgnslayr i took the liberty of forking this post into its own topic. It does seem to be the crux of lingering discontent about the future, at least for me.
Does anyone know the timetable we might expect the announcement of staff changes?
1 and 2 year players?
OH! Juniors and Seniors!
Wondering if they are awaiting for the Portal season to wind down. Would make some sense based on the volatility of this while the portal window is open
@nuleafjhawk ha! I’m laughing! Think how much NIL you can score in the portal when you still have 2 or 3 years of eligibility left?
@approxinfinity I wish we would've nabbed Luke Barnwell. After Sunrise he was at TT, just left there for Iowa. I know his family use to be KU fans.
Over 5000 d1 players on over 350 teams. That’s a lot of new tax revenue! lol the nfl only has around 1500 players and average pay of 2.8mil per year. College basketball may pay better soon to fill a top tier roster.
As the pay escalates the yearly roster churn will continue. The haves and have nots will swap players.
DEFENSE - if you ask Self what his calling card is, he would say his focus is defense.
Is it realistic for Kansas to only play M2M? It’s always seems to be effective when we sometimes flip to a zone when our M2M isn’t cutting it. Self always mentions they barely practice zone or don’t.
Should we practice more zone and use it more? Isn’t it a multi-year education process to learn M2M? When was the last time our guys fought hard to get out in front of picks and not switch?
@drgnslayr They’re taught to switch. It really confused Duke early.
@drgnslayr said in How will our coaches adapt to rosters full of 1 to 2 year guys?:
DEFENSE - if you ask Self what his calling card is, he would say his focus is defense.
Is it realistic for Kansas to only play M2M? It’s always seems to be effective when we sometimes flip to a zone when our M2M isn’t cutting it. Self always mentions they barely practice zone or don’t.
Should we practice more zone and use it more? Isn’t it a multi-year education process to learn M2M? When was the last time our guys fought hard to get out in front of picks and not switch?
A 2-3 zone is what most kids are taught as their first defense playing organized basketball. They know how to play zone because it's what you do when you can't play man. That's why Self and most teams spend very little time on a 2-3 because most kids grew up playing it. Come tournament time, Self may throw in non traditional zones because those can be effective is short bursts.
Yeah but after watching the last couple years I think our players could benefit from practicing elementary basketball skills that they should have known from the get-go.
Good zone takes practice, like any other defense. And it plays out differently depending on what players are on the floor. I like our 1-2-2 sometimes.
@drgnslayr Of course. For example, DaJuan's zone D against Arkansas was excellent and was a huge reason we came back in that game. He kept cutting off passing lanes, rendering Arkansas' offense very stagnant, not to mention picking off their passes off of bad reads. If you learn to play zone D at that level it is way more effective than just playing the standard zone that all high school basketball players know.
@drgnslayr said in How will our coaches adapt to rosters full of 1 to 2 year guys?:
Good zone takes practice, like any other defense. And it plays out differently depending on what players are on the floor. I like our 1-2-2 sometimes.
A 1-2-2 is not a standard zone and Self rarely uses a traditional 2-3. The ones he does run do take time to learn since they aren't typically a 2-3.
@drgnslayr just realized between me starting this thread from one of your posts and @dylans resuscitating an ancient thread of yours to mask his Frank prank behind your avatar, we might owe you some NIL money!
@drgnslayr I have a suspicion that Self always makes the we don't practice zone comment to the media so opps don't prep for it and he can pull it out in must win games to switch things up. Not that I think they practice it a lot, but I bet he runs zone scenarios before games he thinks he can use it.
I'll take my NIL in Freddy's burgers! :face_with_tongue:
I'm sure you are spot on. And since he usually likes that 1:2:2, like @Texas-Hawk-10 mentioned, it definitely requires some practice.