Wooohoooo! Royals won the WS Sunday night, we got to enjoy the party yesterday and now Kansas bb kicks off. How sweet it is.
Lucas starting
LL starting with Frank, DG, Selden and Perry.
Holy Crap, I can't believe it's college basketball season again!
So what do people think about Lucas starting. I'm highly disappointed that it wasn't Hunter M.
Lets go Jayhawks!
2 fouls in less than 2 minutes for Lucas. smh
Now JamTray vs Hunter after LL gets 2nd personal.
And now Jamari 2nd big off the bench.
Mari!
How does Selden look? Ankle still bothering him?
So rebounds / min not too important for Self I guess. We'll see how things progress.
Awesome swat by mason
This is butt ugly from a JHawk perspective.
We're getting double up by Pittsburg st.
Just tuned in. Doesn't look like I missed much.
JamTray all our points
@nwhawkfan you havent
World Series was prettier!
Looking rusty
Pretty sure I saw Hunter miss a block out too
@Crimsonorblue22 I'm not a JamTray hater, just think I've liked what I see when Hunter's in there.
very ugly early
@Crimsonorblue22 soar!!! But I think I'm gonna breathe a lot better thx
This is the perfect schedule for sports for me. I love baseball first and foremost. Doesn't matter who plays, I'll watch til the last out. Then 3 days later, college hoops starts, and when does it end? Opening day!
Svi had a sweet pass to hunter
@wissoxfan83 Yeah. I hope the NCAA doesn't mess with the schedule.
BG same defensive effort
Hmmm, no boxing out Mr Chris Piper says
Headband for Bragg. Interesting
Lots of people playing
Sweet hi low
Bragg - Mickelson high low
No help
Nice shot hunter
And then the two both hustling
@Crimsonorblue22 my feed is way behind
Ok
Dang!
Mine too. Mick should be starting imo.
Svi getting beat on D
Matador defense by Svi.
I'm liking Bragg!
@nwhawkfan should have been some help!
Bragg is the last big in the game but immediately has an assist, then beats his man down the court for a jam.
This in a nutshell is why we have trouble recruiting the elites
Bragg is the key to this team. If we win it all he will be a huge reason why.
we've recruited elite players nearly every year.
By the way, is Pitt State one of the top D-2 teams, or more middle of the pack? Haven't followed them much.
Lke how Hunter kept the ball above his head and no dribble before putting it up.
That was a foul on Perry? Really?
Nice pass!
Is Pittsburg State really this good or do we suck? This play by play doesn't tell the whole story!
@Statmachine Rebounding has been terrible
@Statmachine early lots of combos, lots of fouls. Need diallo
Holy crap, 4 guys standing around the basket and one gorilla cuts through and lets him rebound and put it back.
no we definitely suck early, taking the competition for granted but playing how Self said we have practiced
Doesn't Perry have 2?
Mason should have hit Vick in the corner
i feel like mason gets fouled every time he touches the ball but never gets the respect
My screen is missing the score for some reason. Anyone else have this problem?
Screw it, I'm headed to the bars. Need my Jayhawks fix in.
it was sound for me for about 5 minutes
@wissoxfan83 You using ESPN3 too?
Duh, of course you are!
@wissoxfan83 me too
hey the refs have already proven they know nothing!!
17-16 there on scoreboard in the replay shot.
Vick is going to be fun
Hey SZ put the score up!!
I'm streaming ESPN3 thru my XBOX onto my TV. Just learned today you could do that. :smile:
Maybe this is the result of politically correct kids sports where they don't keep score!
@wissoxfan83 and they all get a ribbon
@RockkChalkk Bought a new Samsung 40" with wifi and was hopeing to stream it on there but need Flash player and guess I'm outa luck. So using puter instead.
this is certainly ugly.. certainly not worried but worried about lack of execution
@BeddieKU23 really ugly! BG needs to redshirt
WhAt the hell am I watching.
theres nobody that's playing like its a real game. they really are treating this like a scrimmage
Trying to figure out how to squeeze KU game, KUbuckets, and UW game on my computer all at the same time!
and for a team with championship aspirations this is going to be gold for Self to get these kids to practice the way he wants them too.
How does inside scoring look so far?
Usually middle of the pack in the MIAA. Typically a blue-collar team that works hard with average talent.
Finished 4th in conference last year, but they got on a roll and won the conference tournament.
Pizza mugging is the highlight of the game so far
I'd say that these guys are reading their own clippings, but I guess nobody clips articles anymore...
@BeddieKU23 30 missed shots and both teams shooting under 30% according to announcers
@nwhawkfan They just watch their own highlights on youtube all the time!
@RockkChalkk I'll have to look. Was only gonna buy a 32" for guest bdrm since son, wife and gdaughter gonna be here for a couple months and decided what the heck, I need one for my computer room. :wink:
Wider arc under the basket is going to help Selden's old man game
No fools gold for us so far tonight, right?
you know its bad when self has his hand on the side of his head
@wissoxfan83 Quarter screen for each game and half screen for buckets.
good to know Selden's FT shooting has improved... not
0 for 7
Score?
Hey look. Score board on bottom of screen.
Nice Selden!
Bragg is the star so far. Crazy that he is doing so well. If him and Svi can get starting minutes we are in good shape? The question is, will HCBS give them the time?
jesus we can't cover the wings
2 for 9 !
Fools GOLD at last
Finally.
Seldon and Greene with b2b 3's
with our team when we make 3's it just does so much more than focusing on pounding the ball inside
Looks like we just needed somebody to hit a 3 to open the door. Selden and BG. Just need Svi to get on board.
Seldens dunk really nice!
hops seem back after the ankle injury
The score??????????
41% shooting % now apparently.
Perry looking better
he always does against 6'5's
BG steps on sideline, steps on line......
boy hunter's D has got to be better than that
Bad call
Nice boards there
Fouls😡😬
Opening up the game has made the game almost un-watchable. I'm not sure CBB knows what they're doing
its an exhibition but its clear Bragg will not be the last big off the bench very soon
Anyone surprised coach ok w/headband? Didn't miles wear one?
@BeddieKU23 we also need diallo
40-28
certainly and he's scary good, but we really have no idea whats going to happen
Great finish!
Very impressed with Bragg
Swi another miss...good thing these don''t go into the stats
Mickelson! two blocks and what a put down.
46-28 at half. Closed with a 9-0 run.
Good last few minutes....keep it up guys.
Bragg is doing exactly what he needs to do to solidify minutes. Rebound, hustle & score..
Bragg gonna get his share of pt.
46-28, run at the end
Come on, why we gotta look at rat face.

Very rough half for Graham & Svi.. They have to make shots
Bragg with 8 pts and 6 rebounds in 10 minutes.
Bench with 26 points.
Individual stats

I didn't expect us to look like world beaters tonight. Self will beat them up at Half & I expect some better ball this next half. But first impression is this team is a lot further off than a team that played 8 games this summer should be
well the 2 3's we did make started to open things up for us. It's just as important as pounding it inside
@BeddieKU23 Wonder how the tighter ref calls will affect the inside-vs.-outside game this season, not just for us but the game in general...
Bragg 8 points on 4-7 with 6 reb
Mick 8 points on 4-4 with 3 reb
JamT 4 points on 1-2 w 2/2 ft & 1 reb
LL 0 pts on 0-0 with 2 reb
best tandom was Bragg & Hunter with energy, production and Hunter had 2 blocks too I think
@Crimsonorblue22 Hey do me a favor and get in touch with George and tell him you have a good friend who loves CR and would love to have one of those he had done for the team. Hell, I'll even pay for it. Including shipping. I'll pay him double what it costs.
its going to be huge especially early.. so many different rules on defense to adjust too. I'm glad we have the depth we have because a team like Iowa St that has 6 main players is going to be in big trouble when the refs are feeling happy
@BeddieKU23 As long as they get Niang out of the game I don't care.
@nwhawkfan It's Pitt State though...liked the high -low with Bragg-Mickelson
@BeddieKU23 And it seems like he's been at ISU for 6-7 years. Tired of seeing him when we play ISU.
@BeddieKU23 Niang plays with his back to the floor
agreed, we really don't have a smart enough defender to put on him. Bragg has the ideal length but as a freshman Niang would bait him into whatever he wants. Ellis has improved on D a lot but he's never had success guarding him either.. At least we know this is his final year
Bragg starts the 2nd
@Texas-Hawk-10 he was!
Self tells the team they are fired, they come out fired up.
what a move by Bragg.. we are going to love him
My feed is frozen...
No help on D
Perry with a 3 there? My feed was speeding to catch back up. I'll be glad when these games are on real TV.
6 blocks tonight with Hunter half of them.
Hunter scared his man into an airball there, over shot it.
@BeddieKU23 that was hunter with the pass
Wow
@globaljaybird Yeah, ESPN3
That inadvertent touch foul that has no impact on the game whastsoever except to slow down the play of the game! NCAA gonna screw this season up.
HUUUUNTER!!!
@Crimsonorblue22 so that was the WOW....Graham to Mickelson
The scoreboard at the KU Athletic Department shows KU playing a WUG Exhibition game at the Sprint Center. :D
Svi the Jeremy Case of practice according to the announcers.. jeezz
@JayHawkFanToo weird
Traylor with a block
Greene might think about a redshirt. Slower horizontally than last year on D if that's possible
I am sure it is due to SZ incompetence...
i think BG would have a hard time guarding my grandma..
Mari nice move!
@BeddieKU23 I seriously thought the surgery might fix that problem. Can he not bend at all. Can't Hudy help that?
very nice
@Crimsonorblue22 you there at AFH ?
BG can't redshirt now. Anyone other than freshman that play in the exhibition game is not eligible for one.
he just doesn't have the legs to do it. nothing we can do, nothing hudy can do
@BeddieKU23 I just can't buy that!
that post move by Mari was impressive, would love to see that in games we need
... And per Self, he is a junior so it is what it is. sadly
BG & SVi don't offer much if they don't make shots.. both lack defensive awareness
Mari looking a little gimp
so much for hoping for a 2nd half blowout...
@Crimsonorblue22 saw that on the replay.
Oh mari
Oh Mari!
dunk it!
Disappointed in Svi! Why do they rank him so high?
Stat feed (via Benton) is that Bragg in +/- is at +35
Euro reputation.
we know he's better than he's showed but making shots is what he needs to prove & he's done anything but that
Could see graham call to Mari at half court on the replay
Just lost the audio on ESPN3...crap.
@RockkChalkk Self will rip a guy for not dunking when he has the chance...
Back now.
Either Greene beats out Svi for significant reserve minutes or he pops off the bench occasionally for a 7-12 minute junior outing.
Gotta hope he doesn't morph into a distracting discontent. That said, I still envision his saving a pair of close contests with his lethal long ball this season. But Bill Self has declared that 12 members of this squad will not play. Maybe not 10! Bound to be a tuff numbers crunch.
BG moves like he has boots on up to his thighs
@nwhawkfan sup man? Welcome back...
Perry dunked it there!
@Crimsonorblue22 No... about 1.2 miles from AFH
@Crimsonorblue22 BGs gotta be outta shape- was on crutches 2 months
@globaljaybird it pains me so to see him move
Anybody know the size of their big men?
@Crimsonorblue22 they all sound ragged as H on radio- Pre season for Gurley & Davis too
@globaljaybird ha ha
Hope some of these calls are the just the refs getting the rust off.
Mason!
@Crimsonorblue22 6'7"give or take
Vick plays pretty good D
Is Perry's 20 & 10 about the quietest double double ever?
The ol' off-the-butt play !
Mason takes hits like salvy does!
Great hustle mick!
Was Mason out there for sec? Seems he laid there limp
@globaljaybird we seem a lot bigger
@Crimsonorblue22 At one point they had us outscored by 2. We were up what 18 at half and now up 20? But end of 1st definitely put the game away.
Hunter bringing the pain tonight.
Perry at 3?
Can definitely see the rust tonight. Rebounding still looks like it could be an issue this year. I think Bragg or Mickelson need to start when the season starts for real next week. Mickelson is the most consistent guy of the 4 non Perry bigs and Bragg has the highest ceiling. KU also really needs Traylor to play like he did as a sophomore to be net positive for KU this year and Landen Lucas is what he is. A solid rebounder who lacks the strength to hold his position of both ends of the court.
@Crimsonorblue22 I recall an OSU big decked him at the end of the away game last year on a hard pick. I was shocked when Frank got up & continued.
@Texas-Hawk-10 Mari's playing pretty good. He's really good at help d too
Like right there.
Remember when the argument was if Mason was or was not Sheron Collins redux?
BRAGG with a monster dunk!! Nice.
BRAGGALICIOUS !
I like vick
Buck & change & Vick hits the bucket
@globaljaybird Good control by Vick going to the hoop.
Bragg wit da flush!
@globaljaybird Are you ahead or behind my feed? Way ahead!
Bragg POG - nice debut...
@globaljaybird Perry played pretty good, especially w/2 quick fouls
Nice job by Bragg & Mickelson tonight. Perry steady as always.
Slow, very slow start, but somewhere in last bit of 1st half, hit their stride. Part of that was finally hitting 2 back to back 3's. Bright spot in 1st half was Bragg then Hunter.
Perry came on strong in the 2nd but quietly. Jamari has some good plays along with Hunter and Bragg keeping it on. Graham / Mason were what we expected.
Svi/Greene still have problems, be interesting to see what develops there. Seldon was quite overall besides the initial 3.
Don't forget royals on jimmy Fallon and jimmy kimmel
Selden not to great, let down from this summer. Probably ankle
Stats 
Well. see everybody next Tuesday. By the way, don't forget, it's Royals Night on the talk shows tonight...Hosmer & Salvy on the Tonight Show, and Kimmel has to pay off on his bet with Eric Stonestreet! Should be fun.
Till then, RCJH !!!
56 pts in da paint & fast break pts abt 20 something to nothing...Inferior competition is not a good barometer...
@globaljaybird Ellis 22-12 solid but like mentioned, these weren't the L&A types that he typically disappears against. That will be the barometer for him and his translation to the next level. Can he sustain some sort of productivity against the tall and athletic or can he translate his game to more of the 3 spot.
@Crimsonorblue22 got the DVR set for both Still ridin high in the saddle over this World Championship. ROCK CHALK JAYHAWK AND ROYALS !!!
@brooksmd my son got these today. Lucky duck!!image.jpg ↗
Hard to figure out who played well without watching the game. From looking at the stats looks like Perry is still the gold standard. Bright spots, Bragg, Mickelson and at times Traylor. Not so bright spots, Selden, Greene and Svi. Graham with 8 rebounds and 7 assists had a Mason-like game.
@JayHawkFanToo Mason in foul trouble. Strong to the bucket though!
@Crimsonorblue22 COOL! Chicago is a fun town Both my sons lived there for several years Younger one met his wife there.
@JayHawkFanToo defense really bad! Simple as see man see ball and get your butt down and move your feet. Drives me nuts!
@globaljaybird he's going to school close to there. Dr he worked for in Lawrence got him and his gf the tickets. He's blessed for sure!
Catch ya next time . Gotta finish packin-headin to Table Rock in the am. GN all.
@globaljaybird have fun, behave!
Is tomorrow the day for the free taco thing from Taco Bell for looooo cains stolen base?
Defense is what Coach Self does best; I am not too worried about it and I am sure he will have it much improved by the time the exhibition games are done.
And to think diallo almost went there?
0.211 from 3...here we go again...
Anybody getting the post game?
Miss shots get stops
@rustindodd: Bragg also said it took some arguing and lobbying to get Self to OK the headband. He did not want to disclose his argument. "No comment."