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7 more years of the OAD as the CBA was agreed upon with the NBA.

They proposed a Zero & 2 rule. High School kids could go pro or have to attend 2 years of College.

CBS Article-"The intriguing aspect here is how the new deal allows for some growth and continued perspective, and perhaps we see a scenario in two or three years from now wherein the CBA affixes a new provision for entering the draft. Either you leave right out of high school or you commit to play in college and have to spend at least two years there before you can put your name in the draft pool.

But that's not an improvement. If anything, it's a scare tactic, and it's likely to push a number of would-be college stars to the pros too early, wherein plenty will invariably fail"

No matter what the rule is......you can't protect kids from going pro when they shouldn't have. Bad decisions will still be made.
I wish they would have gone with the proposed zero & 2.

I would like to see the rule changed and there should be freedom for some players to get Draft Info out of HS or after their 1st year of College if they are good enough to be drafted in the 1st round. Have those select kids invited to the Combine and have them keep their "amateur" status until they decide what's best for them.

What they need to do is put in a system similar to baseball. You can declare out of high school. But if you go undrafted (in baseball if you don't sign with a team) you don't lose your amateur status and can't declare again for 2 seasons. If you do get drafted, at all, you lose your amateur status and have to go play pro ball. That way teams don't feel like they wasted a draft pick.

@Kcmatt7

I thought in baseball if you didn't sign, you could maintain your amateur status. I am not as familiar with their draft rules, though.

I think they should do away with the OAD rule and just let guys declare whenever. I think it takes the pressure off guys that are going to make the leap anyway, while giving guys that need a year or two of development the chance to go to college to actually develop, rather than just going to bide their time.

I wish the new CBA also put more emphasis on the D-League as a true developmental tool, but I think that is still a ways off as teams learn how to really use the D-League.

@justanotherfan I was trying to say that if you didn't sign in baseball you could maintain your status. But there are so many rounds that they may as well have gone undrafted.

My thing is, I get what the owners are trying to do. They want the rule because they want to make sure that a guy is for real. That he can commit to basketball. I mean it is a multimillion dollar investment in an 18 or 19 year old kid. Just like any other employer anywhere else, they want to see what they are investing in.

@BeddieKU23 Gaaaaahh!! The baseball rules would be so much better for the game.

This OAD rule is exactly why I didn't go to college. I wanted to go pro right away.

@Lulufulu I go to quite a bit of college baseball games here in Baton Rouge. The problem with college baseball, and I think college hoops would follow suit to a lesser degree, is that the talent is watered down a bit. While some players develop into major leaguers in college obviously, the best players are allowing them to get drafted out of HS or out of the Latin American world. If hoops went the baseball route, I'd still enjoy the games a lot, but we'd have to adjust to KU hoops without JJ, Wiggs, Joel, etc.

Like some of you have mentioned it's too bad they didn't adopt the TAD rule. Two years would have been a good compromise. Ben Simmons, the kid at Washington and their ilk would be forced to care a bit about their schooling and about the school they play for.

The horrific beauty of the OAD rule lay in the absoluteness of its corruption.

It has NO redeeming value AT ALL.

ZERO.

It isn't even good for the NBA!

It delivers them an ever declining quality of player AND a continuous stream of busts!

Its horrible for the players for reasons too many and already discussed to make repeat anything but boring.

It's even bad for the shoecos and agents who leech less out of the pitifully undeveloped players.

It turns the colleges and college coaches into specialists in recruiting second class players, because the OADs are apparently assigned to them.

The OAD Rule proves human beings engage in evil, because they are hopelessly, futilely stupid.

I hate the rule as a College Basketball fan. But without the rule we'd never have seen Andrew Wiggins or Josh Jackson among others in a KU uniform. The marriage is brief but it definitely has its advantages. OAD's are never going to be perfect.

@jaybate-1.0

I agree in some and disagree on others.

The NBA introduced that rule for specific selfish reason and without any though of the effect on the individual players or college BBall It simply wanted to make sure it had a laboratory (college) where it could evaluated top players against real competition and not the weak sauce they get in HS.

Let me give you a recent example: Skal Labissiere. Had he been drafted out of HS he would have been without question the #1 pick. One year at Kentucky showed that he was overrated coming out of HS and instead he was taken with the #28 pick by the Suns and promptly traded to the Kings. This season he has played in 2 games and he has been in the D League most of the time...you can see how this rule saved a team millions and why the NBA wants this rule.

If all these institutions would really care about the students athlete, they would adopt the Baseball approach where a players can go directly from HS to the pros and have money guaranteed to go back to school and then some,if baseball does not work, ala Xavier Henry's brother, or else you go 3 years to college where many players can complete their degree or get reasonably close to one and if baseball does not work; they can always go back and within one year complete their degree. A reasonable approach one would think...