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Tevin Mack suspended indefinitely
Jan 12, 2017 08:39 PM #1

Huge blow for Texas.

Leading scorer, best 3 point shooter, leads the team in minutes.

Texas only averages 70 a game, now short their 14.8 points per game scorer.

Sorry Shaka, I don't feel bad for you

Jan 12, 2017 08:43 PM #2

@BeddieKU23

Poor Shaka... living in the real world but trying to build a hype team.

What happens when his players stop buying the hype?

What happens when all those oilmen and rancher contributors stop buying the hype?

Time eventually filters out the hype in favor of substance.

Jan 12, 2017 09:06 PM #3

And it just keeps getting better and better For Texas - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Jan 12, 2017 10:19 PM #4

@BeddieKU23 said:

Sorry Shaka, I don’t feel bad for you

PHOF.

Jan 12, 2017 10:20 PM #5

Indefinitely is the new 1 game.

Jan 12, 2017 10:21 PM #6

@drgnslayr said:

What happens when all those oilmen and rancher contributors stop buying the hype?

The JFK treatment?

Stay out of Dealy, Schlocka.

Jan 12, 2017 10:27 PM #7

Kind of funny, but I've got tickets for KU-Texas in Austin which is 6 weeks away. Really looking forward to it, my first live Jayhawk game in 5 years. And now that Texas is imploding, I'm a little disappointed because I was hoping it'd be a competitive game against a good Texas team.

Jan 13, 2017 03:43 AM #8

It's most likely he won't be back.

Jan 13, 2017 06:24 AM #9

Anybody see Frank's interview w/holly after game? She asked him about going against Woodard, and Mason said he was glad he was back from his suspension and hoped he would stay there. Don't know if he made a mistake or knew something we didn't.

Jan 13, 2017 10:29 AM #10

Help is on the way, Texas is the heavy favorite to land Matt Coleman, Top 30 PG and teammate of Billy Preston. He'll bring stability to the position which they haven't had all year.

Jan 13, 2017 03:28 PM #11

@BeddieKU23 said:

Texas is the heavy favorite to land Matt Coleman, Top 30 PG

Who can take recruiting seriously anymore? Why would a Top 30 PG prefer Texas and Schlocka to KU and Self in basketball straight up? It's like preferring Texas over Alabama in football.

The soul of recruiting is the sole.

Jan 13, 2017 03:41 PM #12

@jaybate-1.0 I know you always think it is just shoes, but kids will choose places for lots of reasons. Texas isn't a sewer or black hole like M(eth)U, after all.

It might just be that he sees a great opportunity to start early, play a huge amount, and become a star. We can't offer him nearly the same impact opportunity with the possibility of DG coming back. From SBNation on Texas's problems this year:

Who’s the point guard?

Remember when Smart enjoyed the luxury of one of college basketball’s most efficient floor generals orchestrating his offense? That was just last season, but Isaiah Taylor bypassed his senior season and Smart is now forced to play point guard by committee.

The experiment is yet to yield the results necessary for Texas to play at a competitive level. While numerous ‘Horns have seen reps running the show, sophomore Kerwin Roach Jr. and freshman Andrew Jones are handling the bulk of ball-distributing duties. The outcome has been a mere 25 assists through 11 combined games (Roach missed one game due to suspension), which is overshadowed by 20 turnovers. Taylor alone dished out 30 assists to only 13 turnovers through six games last season, in addition to his 16 points per game.

Mayjay again: Or maybe his parents will move there and want somewhere with no income tax.

Jan 13, 2017 03:46 PM #13

@mayjay I think if it was just shoes we would back to a nike school in a heart beat, Wigs and Embiid got $$ for Adidas. just my take.

Jan 13, 2017 05:13 PM #14

@jaybate-1.0

Shaka has recruited Coleman for a while, it sounds like they have a strong relationship

Duke is involved and they were kind of late to his recruitment and were once thought to be the favorite for him. The timing of the announcement and Duke's sudden interest in Trevon Duval makes it seem likely its Texas.

At Texas there is literally no one for him to compete with for the spot. At Duke he'll get over-recruited like Thornton did.

Jan 13, 2017 05:18 PM #15

@mayjay

Actually I don't always say that, but let's pretend I do.

Which is more likely over the long run: shoes and agents and incentives, or staying home to be close to parents? We have to rule out PT, because Frank is graduating, right? And why would it be the TOP 5 players at the 1 an5 positions prefer to stay closer to home, but guys at the 2, and 3 prefer to play far away at KU?

No, say it ain't so!

It's really all a product of a young man preferring the high culture and arts of Austin (?) and coaching charisma of a second rate coach at a football school (formerly) and some PT, to a hall of fame nominee and winner of a ring and 12 consecutive conference titles and one of the five best basketball schools in history plus a great campus with great looking women and exciting things to study and a graduating point guard. And maybe the new CIA director, who wants to ramp up torture!!

Ummm, ok. Torture is a crime against humanity, but he's not confirmed yet.

It must be this player wants to be close to his friends. Nudge, nudge, wink, wink.

There aren't any AAU coaches steering kids. Pitino was just making that up. And it's just a coincidence Slick and Louisville got hit with Escortgate shortly after, right?

Have you noticed how all the talk of shoes and agents has largely and conspicuously subsided again? No one is saying we put all the bad actors in jail and cleaned up the game, are they? Guess I missed that report on ESPN.

This is the recurring pattern of documented asymmetries and corruption in college basketball history since the advent of the big shoe era. Asymmetries and corruption surfaces. Talk. Then nothing done. Then no talk.

Not a single new rule was written, or enforced, that I recall, that fundamentally would change the admitted asymmetric influence of shoes and agents on the game, yet now everything is back under the rug, er, uh, normal.

Hmmm.

It's like all the big, bad shoeco-agency complex had to do was flex its muscles with a couple years of apparent long stacks and then all it had to do was appear to promise not to do those long stacks any more and all the bowing non-stacks apparently knuckled under and said, "Yes, master, yes, master, whatever you say, sir. Just please don't threaten what little stature we have any further, and we'll all look the other way again, sir."

I don't mind if you don't wish to discuss it, on the grounds that doing so is perhaps futile, or that we're in a St. Christopher moment, but why pretend? Why build up a denial fantasy about it? It's not that painful to live with. And if we keep the denial glasses off, we might catch them red handed some time. Why give them the comfort of thinking we're in denial?

Why not at the least be like the city of New Orleans. Savor the apparent corruption. Be proud of it. Indulge in it. Say it's just how it is, Jimbo. You can't waste your whole life trying to catch them, Jimbo. Enjoy the etouffe. Have a Mardi Gras about it. Maybe a March Carney. Wink about it. Blow up the dikes to save the rich neighborhoods occasionally. During the flood and black out send in some private contractors and settle some old scores. Play some Dixie Land. Make fun of it all with the double entendre of Jazz. Say it's all just a lotta jazz.

But why pretend The Big Easy is clean? The awful shizzle Bob Knight and others exposed back in the late 1980s to 2000 was NEVER fixed that I recall. The good guys apparently lost.

They are still apparently losing.

Self, arguably now the best coach in the game, certainly one of the three best, can't sign a top 5 -PG or 5.

But every once in awhile things BREAK GOOD.

And we gotta be ready to capitalize.

Things broke good for the framers of the Constitution. They caught a break and weren't all hung. WHETHER YOUR FOR OR AGAINST TRUMP, things broke good for him and despite the one attempt, many threats, and speculation it's coming, he hasn't been assassinated yet! The Crown's been trying to subordinate us ever since, but undoing breaking good is as tough as undoing breaking bad.

The private oligarchy wants us to buy into BREAKING BAD, because it makes us soooooo much easier to treat like goyim, er, cattle. If we loath ourselves and expect the worst and lace it all over with doilets of denial they can spend a lot more time in the Carribean on their yachts.

It's ok to give up the pursuit of justice, as hopeless, but why put the doilet on it for the bastards?

Rock Chalk!

Jan 13, 2017 05:29 PM #16

@BeddieKU23 said:

Shaka has recruited Coleman for a while, it sounds like they have a strong relationship

Ah yes, we know what Self recruiting highly ranked players for awhile and having strong relationships with them does for Self regarding PGs and 5s.

Jan 13, 2017 05:32 PM #17

@jaybate-1.0

"Why not at the least be like the city of New Orleans. Savor the apparent corruption. Be proud of it. Indulge in it. Say it’s just how it is, Jimbo. You can’t waste your whole life trying to catch them, Jimbo. Enjoy the etouffe. Have a Mardi Gras about it. Maybe a March Carney. Wink about it. Blow up the dikes to save the rich neighborhoods occasionally. During the flood and black out send in some private contractors and settle some old scores. Play some Dixie Land. Make fun of it all with the double entendre of Jazz. Say it’s all just a lotta jazz.

But why pretend The Big Easy is clean? The awful shizzle Bob Knight and others exposed back in the late 1980s to 2000 was NEVER fixed that I recall. The good guys apparently lost.

They are still apparently losing."


Priceless! Bravo!

Jan 13, 2017 05:34 PM #18

@jaybate-1.0

How about you start another thread.....

Title: "Recruiting: Kansas vs Kentucky vs Duke"

Comparative analysis.

Jan 13, 2017 06:00 PM #19

@jaybate-1.0 Well, Shaka was in Richmond while Coleman was in Norfolk, some 90 miles east. How many elite PGs from Kansas schools near KU has Bill had a chance to bring under his spell?

Jan 13, 2017 06:04 PM #20

@mayjay

Frankamp!

Hahaheheeeeee.....

Jan 13, 2017 06:30 PM #21

@mayjay

@HighEliteMajor offers red pill, or blue pill.

I have distilled it a little further: doily, or no doily.

(Note: Spelling correction of doily for @JayHawkFanToo..)

Jan 13, 2017 06:40 PM #22

@drgnslayr Well, CF did go here! Not Bill's fault that CF never cut it as either a pg or a shooter. And, he would have needed a major bromance with Dad, too, which HCBS does not always do when the other ego is bigger than his own (see Henry, Carl)........

Jan 13, 2017 06:49 PM #23

@jaybate-1.0 said:

I have distilled it a little further: doilet, or no doilet.

The education I get here is amazing.

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Do you get Scotch when you distill it?

Jan 13, 2017 07:54 PM #24

@mayjay

Sorry about that. I was just stirring the pot.

Jan 13, 2017 08:01 PM #25

@jaybate-1.0

Doilet??? ↗

Jan 13, 2017 08:07 PM #26

@mayjay

If you add malted barley and/or grain to good water, distill and age in a properly charred oak barrel; then yes; else probably not..

Jan 13, 2017 08:18 PM #27

@JayHawkFanToo

Pardon me.

Doily.

Jan 13, 2017 08:55 PM #28

Et al,

Since "bromance" has apparently been coined to make containable (i.e., to infantilize) the sanctity of male friendship, what shall be coined to similarly diminish the sanctity of friendship among women?

Sismance?

Teammaidens?

Jan 13, 2017 09:22 PM #29

@jaybate-1.0 They just get to call each other their girlfriends, which causes no heartburn. Guys saying boyfriends run into assumptions. BFFs, all!

Jan 13, 2017 09:36 PM #30

@drgnslayr

I'd like to, but it I just can't bear to study darkness--sport and politics-- much further for awhile. Even Gandolph needs to take a blow once in awhile. Need to recharge the batteries with some truth and beauty.

Jan 13, 2017 11:17 PM #31

@jaybate-1.0

Womance ↗...also "girl crush" or perhaps the better known BFF...

Jan 13, 2017 11:40 PM #32

@JayHawkFanToo

Thank you. Womance will do!

Jan 13, 2017 11:53 PM #33

Oh, the shark, babe, has such teeth, dear
And it shows them pearly white
Just a jackknife has old MacHeath, babe
And he keeps it, ah, out of sight
Ya know when that shark bites with his teeth, babe
Scarlet billows start to spread
Fancy gloves, oh, wears old MacHeath, babe
So there's never, never a trace of red

Now on the sidewalk, huh, huh, whoo sunny morning, un huh
Lies a body just oozin' life, eek
And someone's sneakin' 'round the corner
Could that someone be Mack the Knife?

There's a tugboat, huh, huh, down by the river don'tcha know
Where a cement bag's just a'drooppin' on down
Oh, that cement is for, just for the weight, dear
Five'll get ya ten old Macky's back in town
Now d'ja hear 'bout Louie Miller? He disappeared, babe
After drawin' out all his hard-earned cash
And now MacHeath spends just like a sailor
Could it be our boy's done somethin' rash?

Now Jenny Diver, ho, ho, yeah, Sukey Tawdry
Ooh, Miss Lotte Lenya and old Lucy Brown
Oh, that line forms on the right, babe
Now that Macky's back in town

Jan 14, 2017 01:31 AM #34

@jaybate-1.0 said:

Indefinitely is the new 1 game.

My thoughts exactly

Jan 14, 2017 01:32 AM #35

@Crimsonorblue22 said:

Anybody see Frank's interview w/holly after game? She asked him about going against Woodard, and Mason said he was glad he was back from his suspension and hoped he would stay there. Don't know if he made a mistake or knew something we didn't.

Yeah I caught that too. I guess we'll never know...

Jan 14, 2017 01:38 AM #36

Off topic, but as we in central KS prepare for the ice storm. I read this article and liked it. http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/18297660/texas-tech-red-raiders-coach-player-long-journey-lubbock?ex_cid=espnfb&sf50771298=1 ↗

Jan 14, 2017 02:09 AM #37

@kjayhawks we are all waiting to hear about your truck?👂🚲 might need it

Jan 14, 2017 03:10 AM #38

@KUSTEVE

Ah, a very apt reference at this precarious moment of our republic apparently being put through destabilization and perhaps even (pray to god it does not happen) regime change outside the scope of typical post-election constitutional process, as occurred in Weimar once upon a time, some years after these lyrics of Mack the Knife were performed and became so popular in Berlin in 1928.

For the unfamiliar, @KUSTEVE quoted lyrics to "Mack the Knife" by Marxist playwright Bertolt Brecht with music by Kurt Weill (note: both of whom later wound up working in Hollywood) from a 1928 musical "The Three Penny Opera," based on John Gay's earlier "The Beggar's Opera."

I have always been fascinated that violently decadent left wing entertainment sometimes foreshadows (or mirrors) cultural decline and destabilization that then later leads to right wing coups. Sometimes I wonder if it is an orchestrated dynamic. I sometimes imagine the private oligarchy, which believes in nothing but itself, leads with the left, and then delivers a haymaker with the right. Or sometimes vice versa. But mostly first left, then right. Hmmm. But how would one begin to demonstrate such a dynamic, eh?

Jan 14, 2017 03:35 AM #39

@Crimsonorblue22 still no word from po-po. I have my car for now lol. She runs but that's about it. 300,000 mile 99 Pontiac

Jan 14, 2017 03:55 AM #40

@jaybate-1.0 But after the Weimar republic, that's when it gets vewwy interesting, doesn't it? Many think the Nazi Regime was a right wing group, but I could make a strong case they were left wing socialists with a God complex about their race, combined with a nationalist narcissism that allowed them to round up people and put them to death. The real interesting part is the occult element that influenced this group so profoundly.The swastika has been an occult symbol for centuries- it was selected due to it's occult origins.

When I hear recent stories about college professors discussing "white privlege", and "death to white people" , it reminds me of the sick and diabolical ideas that were floating around the beer halls back in 1928 in Munich and Berlin. Those sick and twisted ideas became the basis to rationalize murdering millions of innocent people. We have supposed "educators " drawing tax dollars calling for the genocide of white people. These are dangerous people- these are people who must be opposed, must be stopped from tearing our country apart.

Jan 14, 2017 05:20 AM #41

@KUSTEVE When you look at a circular version of the political spectrum, Fascist Germany is not very far from extreme left political ideology.!Political.Circle.jpg ↗

Jan 14, 2017 12:46 PM #42

I am assuming from a casual reading of this thread that Tevin Mack is a really old tenured professor whose left or right wing coven sang violent songs in 1928 while overthrowing something called "The Why Me? Republic?", an act for which he has finally been suspended or perhaps shot by the WVU Mountaineer.

Jan 16, 2017 05:28 PM #43

Shaka convinced Matt Coleman to play at Texas. Pray for the kid but maybe both sides feel with a legit ball handler that things will turn around. Good for the conference to gain some talent!