!PI-CBK-KU-Frank-Mason-010815.vresize.1200.675.high_.71.jpg ↗
Come on, everyone... we need to step up for our man, Frank! Bookmark the link or come back here everyday and click through. You can vote once per day.
Already did!
Great! You can vote once every day, so please make it a habit until the deadline.
We can win it for Frank if we have an ounce of the persistence he has every time on the court!
planned on it, did it for Perry last year
Again, incognito window in Chrome or equivalent in other browsers: open window, vote, close window - then open and vote again as much as you wish.
That works for now... but if this process is legit, their tech people will track IPs and will toss duplicates happening within a 24 hour period. All the incognito does is prevent local cacheing, which may trick the way they set it up.
We hacked one of those online servers a few years ago taking a vote on best arena. For a short time it put us in a huge lead. Then they caught on to the hack and filtered out all of the dups. I think we actually received less votes in the end because everyone lost their motivation to come back and vote each day.
In other words.... I think what you are advising will backfire.
@drgnslayr Didn't a similar thing happen a couple years ago when the Royals had almost the whole starting lineup for the all star game before MLB figured it out?
I dug a little deeper into your info on Royal fans cheating on the all-star vote.
A Royals fan had made a claim that he easily hacked the voting process. As we all know, the Royals dominated the all-star vote in 2015. Immediately, all of baseball flipped out and pointed blame at those "cheating Royals." My bet: this "Royals fan" was actually a "Royals hater." He/she wanted to smear the reality that Kansas City fans are the BEST fans in baseball! That is now well known all through the MLB and is often supported by players, coaches, management and fans of other teams!
I hacked the MLB All-Star voting page in under 20 minutes ↗
Later came the truth -
The All-Star vote hack that never happened ↗
And in the case shown by @ParisHawk ... consider it very similar to the Royal hack that didn't work.
We really don't need to attempt to hack the system to put Frank on top. All we have to do is be good Jayhawk fans. Organize, execute and be persistent throughout the process.
Keep voting Mason fans.
I don't get the Tarnowski deal...I know its a big market, but come on.
I have every day and on two computers :smiley:
The Capcha doesn't work on my ipad for some reason. Inconvient at the least. I wonder how many votes errors deter?
Just voted. Standings
33% for the Gonzaga guy, 23 % for the Dukie, 21% for Frankie.
After I just voted. Everyone needs to vote.
Reminder to vote for Frank.
It works on products now.
I'm voting for Frank everyday, but he's still 10% behind. Please get everyone you know to VOTE. Thank you.
I voted a good 5 times he's still 10% behind.
We need to keep at this.
Vote the legal way... just once per day.
Frank may appear to be behind but what typically happens after the ballot process is complete is a filtering out of manipulated votes and voters. So... those voting constantly by doing browser tricks will have ALL their votes removed. I suspect the Gonzaga group is doing this because they don't have experience in this like we do.
Don't get discouraged.... plow forward every day, voting for Frank!
I meant I've voted everyday
Keep voting for our guy.
Someone needs to post in this thread every day to push it to the top, so people remember to click the link and vote.
Please vote. We want Frank to pass the big guy from Gonzaga.
@drgnslayr Keep posting and we'll keep voting
Beep... beep... beep..... Frank Mason.... beep... beep... beep....
I got a big hug from #BIFM's dad and he asked me if I had voted for Frank and I told him yes every day and that the Bucketeers were promoting and reminding every one to vote. He is so proud of his son, as he should be.
@RockChalkinTexas ahhhh! 💙❤️🏃🏾
We have to remember that the fan votes are only a part of the selection process. First, I doubt that the Gonzaga guy's votes are totally legit. Second... remember it is only part of the process so we just keep going, regardless if we appear in second place.
voted this morning. bumpp
Keep voting for Frank!
Vote, Vote and Vote again. Please
Bump for the man about to make me very happy/sad this evening!
Please vote.
Copied link to avoid need to scroll:
Just voted. Frank's son sure is a cute little guy.
Keep voting Jayhawk fans
Ding... ding... ding... more votes for Frank!
It doesn't appear that anything is changing day to day. The % looks the same?
I keep voting for Frank, but the percentages don't change. Come on now, everyone vote, please.
i voted as well this morning
I just voted for Frank, just got through - we got to pull him through. -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Karnowski? - - - REALLY? - -give me a break. - -The poll shows Frank was at 20.2 % -- now up to 23 % closing on this guy, of course our vote only counts for 1/3 I think Frank will get a lot more reconized by the Coaches and such. he gonna be ok. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
The Ten semi finalists:- - Lonzo Ball , UCLA, - - - Josh Hart , Villanova- - - Happ , - -Wisconsin , - - Justin Jackson, North Carolina , - - Josh Jackson , KU- - Luke Kennard , Duke - - Jonathan Motley , - -Baylor , - - Caleb Swangan, - -Purdue, - Goss,- -Gonzaga & Frank Mason - -KU
Just my pick for the four finalists are: - - Lonzo Ball - - -Josh Hart- - -Caleb Swangan- - -& Frank Mason. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Where can I see the vote count?
Vote, vote, vote!
@jayballer54 Thanks. It doesn't show up on my ipad. Strange. So what does the vote count look like?
@dylans
Jaron Blossomgame Clemson 3.7%
Evan Bradds Belmont 4.2%
Josh Hart Villanova University 4.7%
Josh Hawkinson Washington State University 3.8%
Nigel Hayes Wisconsin 4.8%
Amile Jefferson Duke University 12.7%
Peter Jok Iowa 4.5%
Przemek Karnowski Gonzaga University 34.1%
Tim Kempton Lehigh University 3.8%
Frank Mason III University of Kansas 23.8%
@tundrahok I'm voting for Frank, but it seems our votes are going to PKarn...Everyday I vote, it seems PK's votes increase and Franks remain the same. I think this online voting is rigged.
It's easy to vote. Keep voting, please.
@dylans just voted for Frank again this morning -- just now. - -There are 4 players of and substance right now at all. - they are - - Karnowski - -Gonzaga - 34.5% - - - Frank- - KU- -23.6%- - - Jefferson- - Duke- -12.6% - - -& Hart- - Villanova4.6% - -I don't get it? - - Karnowski - -REALLY? - -Our vote only counts as 1/3 but vote, vote, vote. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
We have slightly lifted the % for Frank.
Like I said earlier... chances are the Przemek vote will be just a few % after they remove all of the hacked votes.
@drgnslayr what about a site for coach?
Do fans get to vote?
@drgnslayr yes Naismith. On kusports today
@drgnslayr WELL too, again our votes only account for a 1/3 anyways -I saw last night that Frank had also been given the thumbs up for POY from other college basketball players, I think media, and Coaches make up the other votes correct? - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Keep in mind that only seniors are eligible for this particular award. The better players are likely freshmen or sophomores. Karnowski is a very good player and deserving of the nomination; you should watch him play sometime. I personally believe Mason is the best but I am most familiar with him..
@JayHawkFanToo ya I too have seen him multiple times - - guess I just don't see it, because maybe different type player - different position. - -I was just pretty much goin also hearing that people were talking pretty much between Mason and Hart, I before this hadn't even heard his name mentioned. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY.
@dylans said:
@jayballer54 Thanks. It doesn't show up on my ipad. Strange. So what does the vote count look like?
Not on my phone, either. Might be the mobile site vs the full site.
Copied link to avoid need to scroll again:
Senior Class Award Voting ↗
Please vote......Frank still behind by 10% pts.
How can Gonzaga with an enrollment of 7,000 out vote KU? Please get the word out.
Got my vote on.
bump
Vote for Frank!!!
Still Voting...........
Hey we closing the gap boys vote , vote , vote. - - Frank is closing it - it's now 33.8 % for Gonzaga boy - -to 25.1 % for Frank , we got it under 10 % - -vote, vote , vote. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Frank is up to 25.1%!
Moving on up!
Keep up the great work....
Dam guys, Frank slipped yesterday, - -how is that possible? - -yesterday he was at 25.1, this morning he is at 24.9% come on now , we have to help get our boy the votes Munster boy from Gonzaga is at 33.7. -Time to rock. - - ROCK CAHLK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@jayballer54 Doesn't seem to be gaining much.
@Hawk8086 ya I can't figure that out. - Thank God this is only 1/3 of the vote. - Things will really change I feel once media and Coaches put in their portion of the vote. - Not only that but you have the John Wooden player of the year, you have Naismith Player of the year I think he will be fine. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Keep voting, people!
I keep voting but the percentages stay the same. Vote, vote and vote again
He doesn't seem to be gaining much.
just voted this morning. - -Just doesn't seem frank is making any head way in this. - - I watched the sloth last night when Gonzaga was playing St Marys, I'm serious, I really don't dislike the kid - -but seriously if you really watch him, he is slow getting back down the floor in transition - - can he dunk the ball? - I have yet to see him get more then what appears to be more then like 7-8 inches off the floor -all open looks are lay ups off the glass - -he gets beat by mobile big men constantly - kind of Ol-Lay defense - -I'm just not sein it. - -I would think Goss-Williams would be a lot more popular vote for player of the year then him. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@jayballer54 Williams-Goss could be POY next year if he doesn't go pro. But this is the Senior Class Award. I don't know if he is eligible--he is in his 3rd year of playing but his 4th year of college. He transferred from Washington and sat out last year. He is a 2nd team Sporting News All American this year.
When I watched the WCC semifinal game the other night, he was really impressive. Lots of baby hooks.
Keep voting, people!
As I said earlier.... Chances are that the Gonzaga player's votes will mostly be thrown out after the voting stops. They will determine that just a few people hacked in votes. It is easy to do... but everyone in here just needs to vote legitimately. One time a day.
If you are caught voting multiple times a day, they will throw out all your votes.
This is the least thing we can do for a warrior that has put it on the line every time out in a Jayhawk uniform!
Making progress, the deficit is now one half of what it was...If the team can erase a 14 point deficit in under 3 minutes, we can certainly do this by the 21st of March...
Vote today... and every day!
Please vote everyday!
@jayballer54 Last year I believe Perry took home the fan vote, but didn't win the award. Will this year be the same with Frank just missing out on the popular vote and winning the award???
Hey we closing the gap - -- Gonzaga guy 32.9 - - -Our Boy Frank 25.5 - - - closing the gap - -down to 7.4% difference. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
This is as close as he has been in awhile.
Just keep voting for Frank! Voting ends the 21st. There is still time to change the vote!
Keep Voting. I vote from different computers when I can.
Frank is slightly bumping upwards..... He is up to 25.6 when I voted this morning!
Keep up the good work!
Please vote for Frank.
It's Frank Mason Day today... make sure and vote!
Voted!
What's the vote % look like today?
Frank on the cover of Sports Illustrated for the first time.
I have voted for Frank every day, but now on the voting site, there is no player list with a box to check. What happened?
You probably have a cache issue. Maybe you should quit your browser and open it again.
@drgnslayr Thanks. I rebooted and it worked. Got my vote in for Frank.
Keep voting. Frank is slowly closing the gap!
Your turn to vote for Frank, he killed it for us this season!!!
One more vote for Top Rank Frank!
He keeps edging upward. Now up to 25.9%!
In one day he bumped to 26.2%!
Keep up the great work!
Vote everyday from now until the 21st! We can do this for Frank!
Still voting.
Over 4,000 views on this thread. Hopefully all of these led to voting!
just read that Gonzaga's man leads the vote because he's from Poland and getting a lot of international voters..
Keep voting!
What's the count?
@Crimsonorblue22 I voted today and it's still like a 7.4 lead for Gonzaga boy. - -I don't get it - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@jayballer54 what don't you get
26.1%.... today...
Look... Gonzaga only has a student base of 7,000.
There is only one way they are staying ahead.... cheating...
Surely, when the votes are counted, all those spam votes from the same IP at the same time will be removed.
Or.... if we want to make sure we win, even against spam.... then maybe a few people in here spam the vote. Preferably, people who haven't spent all of this time voting legitimately, because if you are caught, they will probably remove all your votes.
Readily available IP spoofers easily gets you around it
True... but wouldn't that be a big hassle to do it so many times? You'd have to change your IP ever vote.
It would not be that complicated to write a short program that goes on a loop, resets the IP, reads the Capcha, and duplicates it and votes for Mason. I woould include a random time generator so the votes don't come at set intervals and can be tracked. The vote counts only for a third so even if Mason Is 10% Down it can be easily compensated by the other components of the vote
@drgnslayr said:
all those spam votes from the same IP
You can't just remove votes from the same IP, because often proxies are in the path and the site doesn't see the individual IP address of the browser. There has to be more complex logic involved in detecting spam votes.
If we don't know what that logic is, we don't know how to circumvent it.
@ParisHawk Maybe they have figured out a way to hack people's cameras on their phones, and if they see anyone using a calculator to answer the "I am not a robot" math question, those votes get tossed for cheating.
I don't use IP-spoofing.... so I'm not sure about this. But using those, can you always come up with a different IP block continuously?
These tools must assign IPs they have permission to use. IPs run in blocks based on location. It just seems like you would quickly finish using that service's IP blocks quickly.
I'm just guessing since I don't use these tools.
But the script idea sounds like the right way to go!
Done.
We are reducing the gap; it's now just 5%. Karnowski? Give me a break. 9 pts, 4 rbs. against Northwestern. Versus, BIFM. Why is this even a contest?
Today is a new day. Vote for Frank!!!
I'm replying just to keep this post on top.
Sure you can remove votes from the same IP. We went through this a couple years ago when we rigged the best venue vote for AFH.
I don' t know how they set up their voting, but typically, they record several data fields on these votes so they can look for corruption.
The result votes are put into a database with fields of different factors, including IP addresses. The time recording is also another field. A small script could identify those who broke the rules and separate them. Very easy to accomplish.
IP spoofing would be the best way to hack this vote. But I'm uncertain as to how often you could create unique IPs. There are only so many available through spoofing and those are from IP blocks (ranges) to make more IPs available. I know how it works (a bit) on blocking IPs, and that is often done with the entire block.
27.2%! We are making a move!
If you have been watching carefully... it looks like the Gonzaga people made a goal to keep their vote around 1/3 of the total vote (33.3%) Their guy has stuck very closely to the same amount every time.
I bet they don't have more than a few hundred real votes. Obviously, they have someone that checks it every day and updates it with more hacked votes to get to their target.
What we really need to do is get our total about 33.3%. If we do and then suddenly, Gonzaga's numbers go even higher trying to beat us, we know 100% that they are cheating. I already know they are cheating... but this helps substantiate it.
27.7%! Seems like we move up one half a percentage each day!
Daily vote bump
@drgnslayr The most common/free ip spoofers only have a handful of IP address that you can use. Many are just used to change your region so one could redeem European UV codes in the US or vice versa. Of course there are more dubious uses.
If votes from the same IP address are thrown out or blocked daily each service I've seen only has 20-100 ip addresses, so one person could throw in a couple hundred votes a day. But only one person could use it per day.
If you want to vote multiple times per day all you have to do is clear your cookies or use private mode. This won't change your IP address so the votes will likely be thrown out at the end. I imagine this is most of the cheating votes.
I'm just voting once per day. If you have multiple routers you can vote more than once per day. Just vote once on each router from a device. Cell phone, office, home wifi. No way to filter that out yet, as long as you use different devices.
@dylans Again, keep in mind that there are things called proxies. Anyone working in an enterprise with any security will go through a proxy, and every vote from behind that proxy will have the proxy's IP address.
There may be proxies along the network as well.
If they are throwing away votes based primarily on IP addresses, some legitimate votes will be thrown out.
That is why I suspect the filtering of cheating votes may be more sophisticated.
On another note, if as @drgnslayr says we want to reduce the Gonzaga percentage, then we should vote for Frank and for two other seniors. That will reduce the Gonzaga percentage much faster.
Well we are gaining - -down to 33% - - -to 27.8 - -5.2% difference that's the closest it's been keep it up - -keep voting. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@ParisHawk That dilutes Frank's, too. Best way is just vote for him.
The spoofers I have access to allow you to program any IP you want. Not that complicated to get list of valid IPs from all over the world; this is how spammers operate.
Like I said, the proper (I am not saying it is right or encouraging it) is to write a script that accesses the site with random IPs taken from a list and then capturing and decoding the "captcha" text which should be fairly simple since it uses undistorted characters and would always be in the same place in the screen as is Mason's name and then vote. I would further use a random interval generator (piece of cake) so all the votes do not come say every 10 seconds so time a pattern is not created.
I personally do not think the write in vote will make a difference; Perry won it las year by a bunch and did not get him the award.
up to 28.2% that is up from this morning when I voted
Frank Mason 2.0
Now we need to vote for him for the NAISMITH Trophy - once a day.
@RockChalkinTexas said:
Now we need to vote for him for the NAISMITH Trophy - once a day.
Coach Self too!
I don't claim to know anything about IP spoofing.... so what I posted could be wrong. I trust your experience a lot more than mine!
I am familiar with the technology but I really don't have much use for it personally.
Voting has ended.
Time to put all efforts towards the Naismith award!