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Nov 18, 2017 04:33 PM #1

Ok guys wasn't really sure where to put this but put it here, feel free to move if you think this is in the wrong spot. Putting here case kind of Political but yet kind of sports related also.

Let me say LaVar Ball has to be the most idiotic , moronic person I've ever heard/read about. I guess Last night in an interview with ESPN - he was at it again. Like the article I rea said everybody knows how BOTH Trump and Ball Both make outrageous statements to ensure they remain in the media spotlight. Ball likes to as to generate more attention .

We all know that Trump made a off the cuff statement saying I wonder if the UCLA players will thank me for my involvement helping get their release? - -Trump received the thank you he deserved from each UCLA player last Wednesday during the players 1st public comment. - -THAT should of ended Trump's involvement UNTIL - - -LAVAR ran his mouth again.

When asked about Trump's involvement about helping LaVar said - - -WHO? - - What was he over there for - -Don't tell me nothing, EVERYONE wants to seem like he helped me out.

It ain't that BIG OF DEAL" Really " ? it's not ? - -LaVar says like I told Li Angelo they try to make a big deal out of nothing. I'm from LA , I've seen a lot worse happen then a guy taking some glasses.

The article says his audacious comments will no doubt increase his public stature and awareness of the Big Baller brand, but his defiant stance can only hurt his son. Not only is LaVar extending the incident , he could also be goading the UCLA admin into sending a message that this WAS a big deal by handing LiAngelo and his teammates a longer suspension.

My son has built up enough character that one bad decision doesn't define him. Now if you go back and say when he was 12 years old he was shoplifting and stealing cars and going wild, then that's a different thing.

LaVar was set to hold a news Conference in China the day after the arrest until counsel persuaded him to stand down. The lawyer were undoubtedly were afraid Ball would make an outlandish statement that would rile the Chinese authorities into making an example of the three players instead of showing lenience. The comments Ball made Friday Night are proof they were right not to trust him. Put a mic in front of LaVar and consequences be damned, he will always say what he thinks will garner the most attention.

Now may take after reading all of this - - I don't care if you Love Trump - - Hate Trump - - - Like Trump - -or just no opinion about Trump. - - -LaVar Ball is just a complete -Dum ASS.

he says " It ain't that Big of deal about China " - -Buddy you are soft - - real fricken soft. - for one - -these kids were in a foreign Country, to play Basketball, they were there representing the University of UCLA -their dumm ass decisions to decide OH well let's just go and rip these glasses off from high end stores here in China, these stores have security camera's thicker then ticks on a dogs back Their idiot decision to pull this stunt not only reflects on them, but their teammates , their school AND United States.

LaVar Ball pops off and says " I'm from LA " - to which I say AND? - -your point? - -that makes you special? - that makes your kid exempt? - that means unless your from LA you ain't squat? - what about the other kids backgrounds? - -umm say like NY -- Chicago - -Detroit? you all big an d bad.

Your idiot response - -saying Everyone wants to seem like he helped me out - -referring to Trump - -umm here is a news flash - - he DID help you out idiot , whether how big or small your not telling me that Trump talking to the Chinese authorities didn't help you, - - get the hell out of here with that crap.

You say if LiAngelo would of been shoplifting and stealing cars at the age of 12 - then it would of been different? - -Last time I checked I don't give a fliipin frick whether your shoplifting - -stealing cars or whatever doesn't matter if your 10 - - 12 - -15 - 20 - - 30 who gives a damn - your BREAKING THE LAW IDIOT I'm sure if you were to ask any local law enforcement they would pretty much agree with that.

You don't want to give Trump any credit for helping - maybe he should of let your boy sit in prison over in China for those 10 yrs, how you would of liked that? - They don't play in these Countries this is serious to them - Your boy got very lucky. I wonder if Trump didn't get involved and LaVar ran his mouth and the Chinese would of carried out the sentence - wonder what the other kids would of thought about LaVar running his mouth. - I WAS A BIG DEAL , you mean to tell me Li Angelo didn't have money to buy these glasses? - -Please.

Nov 18, 2017 05:43 PM #2

@jayballer54 Lavar says, "I'm from LA" to which much of LA says, "Please go elsewhere and say that!"

Nov 18, 2017 06:10 PM #3

mayjay said:

@jayballer54 Lavar says, "I'm from LA" to which much of LA says, "Please go elsewhere and say that!"

Lmao, I like that - -that's pretty good. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Nov 18, 2017 07:24 PM #4

@jayballer54 Because of the pissant actions of 3 Division 1 basketball players the president of the USA ends up pleading for mercy from the Chinese heirarchy. Cutting a deal. What is (or will be) the flipside of this deal? The CEO of big baller brand brays his arrogance while shielding his pissant thieving son. End of story. Not.

Nov 18, 2017 07:32 PM #5

Will make for an interesting sportswatch, the date of UCLA reinstatement of young baller brand and cohorts. And China? Perhaps POTUS and Co. will agree to ease up on the threat of fire and fury.

Nov 18, 2017 07:36 PM #6

@REHawk

FWIW, I don't believe the president should have gotten involved. This is the job of the Embassy and the Department of State, Trump had to use valuable political capital with the Chinese that will have to be repaid sooner or later and for what? 3 idiots that decided to shoplift and when left behind stayed confined in a luxury hotel?...I would have let them stew for a month or two before intervening.

Nov 18, 2017 07:37 PM #7

Aw shucks, I know how this idiocy will turn out. China will manufacture those $500 tennies for Big Baller; probably also send to LA several trial cases of USA Collegiate Hoops Sunglasses.

Nov 18, 2017 07:37 PM #8

I guess Big Baller product will not be manufactured in China anytime soon...:smiley:

Nov 18, 2017 07:39 PM #9

...and Ivanka will probably pocket the patent on both the shoes and glasses?

Nov 18, 2017 07:42 PM #10

@JayHawkFanToo We can't allow public emotion or normal appropriate conduct to get in the way of big business. Dollars are dollars...or YENS?

Nov 18, 2017 07:42 PM #11

@REHawk

…and Ivanka will probably pocket the patent on both the shoes and glasses?

Let's no go there; this is not the political forum.

Nov 18, 2017 07:54 PM #12

@JayHawkFanToo Heck, this is UCLA Basketball! Division 1 athletes and a parent stirring up public indignation. The political stuff is just a tangential mire that our president stepped into.

Nov 18, 2017 07:55 PM #13

@REHawk

I did not defend the President but why bring his daughter into the fray? I am out.

Nov 18, 2017 08:14 PM #14

@JayHawkFanToo Okay, okay. One last word and I will cease, too.
It just seems to follow, logically, that if the current president is to broker any dealings with China, there will have to be some advantages involved in that decision. For both parties. Early in his administration, the leader of China came to D.C. to meet with our newly elected leader; after which it was unveiled that the anointed daughter had garnered several Chinese patents for her merchandise. So...if China is actually to produce Mr. Ball's shoes or his/UCLA's sunglasses, would it not follow that someone high in our government will benefit from the DEAL? Daughter's young offspring could sing a little song in Mandarin, and SHAZAM! But then again, maybe the Chinese shoe deal and the sunglasses won't fly. S. Korea or Japan might intervene to broker the deal. Whatever, there is bound to be a winner or two stemming from the notorious collegiate hoops theft. All's well that ends well. Bye.

Nov 19, 2017 05:02 AM #15

@REHawk

With all due respect you should do little research before you post incorrect statements. Ivanka Trump did not receive any “patents” from China, she did get “trademarks” for her name, a completely different thing and something business and individuals with recognizable names do routinely to prevent others from using and profiting from their names illegally. She and her firm have been doing this since long before her father even announced his candidacy and has 18 of those trademarks and and number more under review.

Again, why even involve her in something related to 3 idiots shoplifting in China?

Nov 19, 2017 06:14 PM #16

@JayHawkFanToo I bow to your wisdom. Posters, please substitute TRADEMARKS for PATENTS in my previous post. Gotta protect the good name of anyone who might benefit from LiAngelo Ball's involvement in toplevel pardons.

Nov 19, 2017 11:23 PM #17

Well, although many people thought it was something he doesn't ever acknowledge, Trump publicly regrets one of his actions: "I should have left them in jail!"

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/11/19/sports/lavar-ball-trump.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage ↗

PS: On this, I agree with POTUS 100%!

Nov 19, 2017 11:45 PM #18

@mayjay

I said before and I will say it again, the president should not have gotten involved in this affair in the first place. Not his job and he wasted political capital doing it only to be rebuffed by Daddy Ball.

More importantly, he should quit posting on tweeter and I am sure we can all agree on this but unfortunately it is probably the way politics are now. SMH.

Nov 20, 2017 12:03 AM #19

mayjay said:

Well, although many people thought it was something he doesn't ever acknowledge, Trump publicly regrets one of his actions: "I should have left them in jail!"

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/11/19/sports/lavar-ball-trump.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage ↗

PS: On this, I agree with POTUS 100%!

me too let them see what it's like in a foreign prison. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Nov 20, 2017 12:05 AM #20

@JayHawkFanToo With that part of it - -I will for sure agree with you - -all this damn twitter crap I guess I'm to old a president twitter so much just BS. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Nov 20, 2017 05:17 AM #21

Well, if LaVar should, indeed, add a line of sunglasses to his merchandise for Big Baller Brand he might label them THE DONALD's CHINESE PEEPS. Unless, of course, a member of the president's inner circle pounces first upon that marketing possibility.
LaVar appears to be winning the war of words with our cheeky twitter king. Or, at very least, pulling a classic Trumpism by diverting heat off his eldest son Lonzo's flagging NBA performances. His baiting and goading of the president evidently took place during an ESPN interview.

Nov 20, 2017 01:09 PM #22

In some perverse section of my mind, I wish I could be in on the Thanksgiving sitdown at the Ball House of Comedy.

"So, what's new?"

Nov 20, 2017 02:40 PM #23

mayjay said:

In some perverse section of my mind, I wish I could be in on the Thanksgiving sitdown at the Ball House of Comedy.

"So, what's new?"

Yes that is A " PERVERSE " section of your mind , lol - -My question I guess would be - - -WHY? - -why would you want to do such a thing lol. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Nov 20, 2017 02:49 PM #24

Addendum to my Thanksgivinng scenario:

"So, what's new? Anyone have major successes this year to be thankful for?"

"Well, I managed to sorta piss off 1.3 billion people a coupla weeks ago. I would been thankful for the shades, too, but they took 'em back. Don't get that."

"Son, I already had them pissed off, plus most of the USA, so that ain't nothin'.. You are not tryin' and frankly I resent your piddly little scheme. Fortunately, I have now pissed off the President to take any attention off you."

(Muttering heard nearby): "Thank God it isn't on me and the Lakers anymore....hmm, why do I come here?"

Nov 21, 2017 03:44 PM #25

I know. Not really sure WHY I keep falling into LaVar's baited trap - -but I like so many others just can't help myself when I hear him spew off at the mouth, the guy really chaps my ass.

I just wonder seriously, if you were to ask the Ball boys , but if you were to ask then and they answered HONESTLY I just wonder what or how they REALLY feel about some of their dad's comments and some of his actions? - I think if it were me , I'd be at least somewhat embarrassed of his actions and how pathetic some of his comments sounded. - - Does he not realize how much harder he is making it for his son's - In reality I think LaVar is thinking about only LaVar - -son's be damned.

Last night in an interview on CNN , LaVar outdone himself yet AGAIN. - -saying that he only would of said thank you to Trump if the President would of let the 3 UCLA players fly back to United States on the Air Force One plane with Trump, saying there is plenty of room on that plane. - Get the hell out of here with that lunacy.

Repeated again still saying that this was not that big of deal umm, here is a little foot note to that statement ( TO CHINA IT IS ) - -5-10 yrs in a foreign prison - not a big deal? -ya tell that to your son after he could of spent that time there, say tell him that after the first week in there. - If he were still alive. -Or better yet, let them pull that stunt in Saudi Arabia bet you would only do it once - they cut your hand off. anyways he still says not that big of deal - -that it was a victimless crime. That it was an impulse thing , a bad decision , at a bad time.

Finished his little interview by saying tell Donald Trump to have a great Thanksgiving because Big Baller is.

Again I allow myself to have to comment on his idiotic talk - but see this is exactly what he wants and I/we are giving it to him by my responding and so many others - I need some therozene to mello out about him lmao, but Damn he chaps my butt. -- -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Nov 21, 2017 03:57 PM #26

@jayballer54 Why watch?

Nov 21, 2017 04:33 PM #27

mayjay said:

@jayballer54 Why watch?

Because like thousands of others you just wonder when you see - -if it's possible that this moron can out do himself from the last time and the answer is -- -YES why yes he can. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Nov 21, 2017 05:22 PM #28

@jayballer54 Good point. I guess that is why I keep reading politics despite telling myself not to!

Nov 21, 2017 06:54 PM #29

@REHawk

Come on dude? why stir the pot?

It would be one thing if you were making some valid post but man all you doing is showing your hate for the Trump family.

Just let it go and if you don't like the president vote him out?

Nov 22, 2017 05:36 AM #30

You know I used to think Lavar was an idiot. But now I think he's just playing his game trying to gain as much fame for as long as he can trying to get his brand going. I saw a guy in Wichita wearing one of those shirts the other day. Definitely not my style with his loud mouth but the younger generation seems to like it. It's kinda like Miley Cyrus doing all the tweaking and short hair crazy stuff, she blew up after that.

Nov 22, 2017 02:15 PM #31

Well daddy LaVar ha sure made it interesting for Lonzo even today as Lonzo has moved on to the NBA. - - What does ESPN want to talk about? - - Lonzo. - - I mean how many rookies are there in the NBA? - yet it's Lonzo - - -LaVar talking about how Luke Walton the Lakers Coach doesn't know how to Coach Lonzo - -Lavar says - -they don't know how to Coach Lonzo - - I know how to Coach Lonzo. - -Man get the hell out of here with that crap.

Like the ESPN commentators said, when is the last time we have ever heard about talking about the parents of an NBA player - -the Parent. - -Damn man this clown is just - - - I have no words. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Nov 22, 2017 07:58 PM #32

@DoubleDD Hate? Showing my HATE? Aw, come on now, you're sounding like one of my indigent welfare neighbors, guys who turned on me with that HATER label after I pointed out that the government was set to annihilate their medicaid benefits. Shucks, the only thing I ever absolutely hated was liver and onions, back when I was barely a teen. And hominy. Got burned with a leather belt one time for refusing to eat my mother's cooking. Probably because of the belt; but I HATED those food items. Now have outgrown those emotions, and actually find liver and onions somewhat delectable. I don't feel hate for our president, his family, inner circle or unwavering dumb supporters. What I have felt is a sense of surprise, shock, indignation and mirth. To bring my discourse back to the subject of this thread, I am getting a huge kick out of the current feud: TRUMP vs. BALL.
The patriarch of some young American hoops stars denigrates the powerful leader of the Free World for not really doing much to help free his wayward son from Chinese captivity. Trump, iin a twist of furious irony, then declares that LaVar Ball is a "fool!" That stuff is more humorous than any of the Sunday comics. If the president would avoid speech and actions involving foreign relations or public morality, items of which he is either ignorant or out of 21st century tune, and stick with personal insults and braying about his omnipotence, then all of us could sit back in relief, chuckle with delight. Dagwood vs. Blondie! And heck, it looks as though Ivanka is standing tall vs. her audacious daddy in the Roy Moore debacle. Maybe Mr. Ball will find a foothold to squeeze his voice into that brouhaha. Not hate stuff, but MIRTH. Dontcha think?

Nov 22, 2017 08:37 PM #33

@REHawk Do you remember when people would bring up a pet peeve by saying, "Do you know what's wrong with America today?" and then cite some silly thing like 4-way stops? Or robocalls, or too many choices at McD's or something?

No one says that stuff anymore. Too many serious or tragic things that are wrong.

Nov 22, 2017 09:19 PM #34

Denny's used to have breakfast sandwich called the Dagwood but it was discontinued a while back...I really liked the Dagwood...:disappointed:

Nov 22, 2017 11:35 PM #35

mayjay said:

Well, although many people thought it was something he doesn't ever acknowledge, Trump publicly regrets one of his actions: "I should have left them in jail!"

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/11/19/sports/lavar-ball-trump.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage ↗

PS: On this, I agree with POTUS 100%!

I don't agree with him on well anything really but i agree on this one too haha. idiots

Nov 23, 2017 02:16 AM #36

@HawkInMizery Yeah, the wife and I kinda concur with you guys on this issue. China should have led those guys away from those ritzy hotel lodgings, right down the stairwell from which they could be marched in cuffs to the nearest lockup. Leave them sitting for a month or so until LaVar coughed up an order for several gross of Chinese Big Baller Brand brogues and perhaps a few trial gross of Presidential Peeps Hoops Sunglasses.

Nov 23, 2017 06:05 AM #37

@REHawk

Hypothesis: someone one called in a mark on Mr. Ball and scripted what he was supposed to say.

Nov 24, 2017 12:50 PM #38

@REHawk

Fair enough. However I would say if my son or daughter got caught stealing in a foreign country like China. And the president stepped in to help I would be thankful but that's just me.

I know so many think China is a free country because they are a capitalist country. (Cough) they're not.

Lavar is being stupid. The old saying bad press is better than no press? Oh wait I'm sure the
Trump haters are lining up to buy big baller shoes right now. Doesn't matter that his kid stole some high end merchandise. Haha. Now that's funny right?

Ask Otto Warmbiers parents how they feel about their kid stealing in a foreign country? And all he stole was a poster.

It's all fun and games until some one dies. Not so funny.

Nov 24, 2017 01:43 PM #39

@DoubleDD Well, I just read that between last Friday and this Wednesday Big Baller Brand gleaned over 13 million dollars of free advertising, thanks to Donald Trump's rants. Regardless of the criminal stuff which led to this feud, such statistics are mighty damned amusing. LaVar seems to possess an instinct for marketing. When he brayed about his personal hoops superiority to Michael Jordan, I scratched my old hairless pate and mumbled to myself, "What an idiot!" Now I better understand the guy. I think he has out-Trumped the Trumper. (On the other hand, I think his kid and cohorts should have served a few weeks of hard time before departing China. They embodied a light touch of what the world is viewing in regards to Ugly America.)

Nov 24, 2017 01:51 PM #40

...and I would not find myself at all surprised to find in a few months the amusing revelation that The Donald and Family have invested a significant holding in Big Baller Brand. Heck, those two guys could plumb this marketing bonanza for several months, if not years.

Nov 24, 2017 02:01 PM #41

@REHawk Trump is generally believed to not be interested in investing in brand names other than his own.

I think he is more likely to tweet, after this 13 mil news, that Big Baller should pay him for the publicity.

Then the usual media hoopla will ensue, he will be accused by some as attempting to obtain compensation for performing an act as President (talking to a foreign leader), La Var will get the chance to appear more stupid than he is already, Twitter will go aflame even more, Trump will be cleared by a First Amendment analysis by the ACLU, he will get in trouble yet again for insulting the ACLU even after they helped him, and really by then no one will give a crap because worse will happen in the meantime.

Nov 24, 2017 02:05 PM #42

@REHawk

Well if big baller is making money of the the feud of Lavar and Trump?

I'm pretty sure it's persons that Hate trump. Persons that are willing to overlook that a kid stole some highend stuff in a foreign country.

A country that doesn't hold our views on stealing stuff.

I get it no big deal, Yet in China it's a big deal. Trump doesn't step in? Who knows what happens?

Just like when Obama didn't step in on the Otto kid. Even though American taxpayers pay North Korea More than they deserve.

Nov 24, 2017 02:11 PM #43

@mayjay

You know you can always vote him out? Maybe this next election you can a dem prepresenative to actually visits certain states instead of taking them for granted?

Nov 24, 2017 02:11 PM #44

@DoubleDD No one said they are making money off it, only that they got free publicity. Just as the media was analyzed as having given the Donald millions of dollars worth of attention for free in the election by covering and endlessly discussing every utterance, glance, tweet, or movement he made even before he announced.

There is a reason both he and LaVar are considered to be marketing geniuses.

Nov 24, 2017 02:14 PM #45

@DoubleDD So can you. We can work together on this.

Nov 24, 2017 02:14 PM #46

@mayjay

Um The president is a multi billionaire. Lavar is trying to make hey off his children?

Yet somehow Lavar is a gensis? Seems more like a scam bag to me.

His kid just got caught stealing in a foreign country that doesn't recognize our laws. If it was me I would be grateful that the president dem/Rep stepped in to help my kid.

Yet it's Trump so forget that.

Nov 24, 2017 02:16 PM #47

@DoubleDD Look, give it a rest. You are always looking for fights. Would you please notice that I originally said I agree with the Donald about La Var?

Nov 24, 2017 02:19 PM #48

mayjay said:

@DoubleDD So can you. We can work together on this.

NOt me I'm going to vote for him again. You people are nuts. Obamacare sucks. We gave billions of tax payers monies to a country that wants to wipe American of the face of the earth. We had the dem Party sell Uranium to Russia? You know the country that affected our recent elections?

The old saying if you do what you have always done expecting a different result? Yes it's time of change.

YOur smart guy Trump may not be the person. Yet maybe he burns enough bridges that we and I mean we Americans finally get a Preisident we want.

Nov 24, 2017 02:22 PM #49

I have Obamacare.

Nov 24, 2017 02:26 PM #50

@Crimsonorblue22 "I have Obamacare."

Unfortunately, hundreds of politicians (congressmen and senators and the Prez) who think that that fact is a failure.

Nov 24, 2017 02:27 PM #51

mayjay said:

@DoubleDD Look, give it a rest. You are always looking for fights. Would you please notice that I originally said I agree with the Donald about La Var?

I'm not picking any fights. Just answer the call to those that want the same old same old. That want to take pot shots like somehow they know or are better. Yet they never want to shine the light on the party they LIke. Spare me.

Acting like the American people want more of the Clinton Family, and yes even Obama? See the last election? UM unless you live in New York or Cali?? UMMM

I just want to talk KU basketball.

Nov 24, 2017 02:32 PM #52

mayjay said:

@Crimsonorblue22 "I have Obamacare."

Unfortunately, hundreds of politicians (congressmen and senators and the Prez) who think that that fact is a failure.

Really? Come on Judge? You know Obamacare has failed. really?

Expecting the youth to pay for coverage they don't need? And punishing those that already have healthcare?

How many states and counties don't even have the option?

I get the heart was in the right place. Yet come on?

Nov 24, 2017 02:33 PM #53

@DoubleDD Atta boy! Rock Chalk Jayhawk!!!

Nov 24, 2017 02:38 PM #54

@REHawk

I see you have no real legit stance. Just bash Trump.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. As your a great poster.

Yet come on tell me you're not waiting for the breaking news special that Trumps fart don't smell like Mexican food.

so he must be a racist.

Nov 24, 2017 02:42 PM #55

@mayjay Shucks, for all we know, The Donald might actually own the controlling interest in BBB. Just be using this guy LaVar and his talented offspring as a marketing tool to sell those $495.00 sneakers to kids who thrive at the game of hoops; folks who would not otherwise be inclined to buy from a rare political icon who denigrates their sports stars. We are living in shady times, turmoil on the roll.
But the big boys proceed with the clocking of dollars.

Nov 24, 2017 02:48 PM #56

REHawk said:

@mayjay Shucks, for all we know, The Donald might actually own the controlling interest in BBB. Just be using this guy LaVar and his talented offspring as a marketing tool to sell those $495.00 sneakers to kids who thrive at the game of hoops; folks who would not otherwise be inclined to buy from a rare political icon who denigrates their sports stars. We are living in shady times, turmoil on the roll.
But the big boys proceed with the clocking of dollars.

really think Trump is with Lavar? OK

Nov 24, 2017 02:54 PM #57

@REHawk

Me myself the bigger issue is why are all these politicians coming out doing terrible things to women.

But hey we can talk Lavar and Trump making money together?

Nov 24, 2017 02:57 PM #58

And being endorsed

Nov 24, 2017 02:59 PM #59

@DoubleDD Men have been doing terrible things to women for years.

Years ago, no one listened to any complaints ("he said, she said"). Last year, one was facing a trial (hung jury) while someone else who bragged about it got elected President. The first was progress, comparatively.

This year, many men are losing their jobs. Much greater progress.

Why did it take a year to make a difference to you?

Nov 24, 2017 03:01 PM #60

Crimsonorblue22 said:

And being endorsed

It's a good point. Yet isn't a person innocent until found guilty?

Me personally I think he's guilty. Yet Our certain government structure won't allow us to get the bottom of it.

Do know the rep party has pulled all funding on him.

A hit piece? I don't think so. I think he's guilty. Yet how do you feel about old chuck? Does he get a free pass?

Nov 24, 2017 03:02 PM #61

mayjay said:

@DoubleDD Men have been doing terrible things to women for years.

Years ago, no one listened to any complaints ("he said, she said"). Last year, one was facing a trial (hung jury) while someone else who bragged about it got elected President. The first was progress, comparatively.

This year, many men are losing their jobs. Much greater progress.

Why did it take a year to make a difference to you?

And I bet you had know problem with Bill Clinton? LOL

Nov 24, 2017 03:03 PM #62

@DoubleDD Yes.

Nov 24, 2017 03:05 PM #63

@mayjay

Then why did your party spend so much time protecting him. Until now? After all these years now the Dem party ponies up says yea OLd Bill got a free pass?

Nov 24, 2017 03:06 PM #64

@mayjay

What took so long. And why all the hate to Trump for merely speech. As we all now he is a blowhard. Yet when you had and actually president that did the deed. The dem party did nothing?

Nov 24, 2017 03:08 PM #65

Out. Into the realm of fantasy.

Nov 24, 2017 03:08 PM #66

@mayjay

You want a different president? OK tell me who we should vote for? Talk to me.

Nov 24, 2017 03:09 PM #67

mayjay said:

Out. Into the realm of fantasy.

Um it wasn't the Dems that impeached old Bill. Yea it was the Reps.

Nov 24, 2017 03:16 PM #68

@DoubleDD Aw, I am just clowning. Falling into the spirit of the two guys who are waging this idle feud. They both possess unbelievably acute marketing instincts. And yeah, I suppose that I am something of a Trump basher. I wasn't too keen on Hillary, but I did and do think that she bore the experience and know-how to move the country forward. But the legislative branch would probably have curbed her actions even more than they have curbed Trump's. These bipartisan standoffs have become a nightmare for the USA. And the republicans are like two different parties within their own ranks. So, we as a nation are probably much better off with Trump's forays into sports feuds and the waging of small personal battles than his focus on stirring up furor of N. Korea. I worry that my grandchildren will get caught up in military horrors of his making. In the meantime, I try to stay on the upbeat, amused by our president's less deadly or less costly tweets. The guy is indeed a CHARACTER. Very scary, however. He now stands chest deep in "the swamp." Gotta move his feet slowly or is likely to sink past his nose into the mire, some of which he has created. LaVar Ball will continue to bait him, trying to milk every bit of free advertising available. Ball's jabbing NBA hoops stars like Curry, Jordan and James has gleaned not nearly so much attention as the Trump goads. I really do see the guy as a marketing genius.

Nov 24, 2017 03:22 PM #69

@REHawk

Thank you for thurthfullness. I think I'm going to bow out of the conversation/debate. As I feel I think I've over stepped my boundaries.

I don't want to hurt anybody. Just pointing that bad things happen on both sides of the aisle.

I agree Trump should just keep his mouth shut. He tweets to much.

Causes him to much problems.

Nov 24, 2017 04:52 PM #70

REHawk said:

@DoubleDD Atta boy! Rock Chalk Jayhawk!!!

ROCK CHAWK - -plus -- ALL DAY LONG lol

Nov 24, 2017 05:00 PM #71

Damn , look what I went and done. - When I started this thread , I had no idea that I would start issues within our own Jayhawk Nation. Sorry.

that was not what I was trying to get going with the whole issue with President and Ball - -NOW if Ball was to see what has happened here he would be very happy - -he is getting even MORE attention whether it be positive or Negative this little B - - - - thrives on that.

Jayhawk Nation will not succumb to Daddy Ball - we unite - this is Jayhawk Nation. - -how they say it - -divided we fall - - United we Stand - -well guess what Daddy Ball, you can have your little bickering sessions with Trump but your not dragging me and my friends into your BS anymore - -Right guys? - -Sorry just my really feeble attempt for humor this morning. - -just remember - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Nov 24, 2017 05:21 PM #72

FWIW, apparently the kids stole not from one or two but three different luxury stores and they have it all on security tape. Had the President not intervened, which I still think he should not have, they were facing up to 10 years in jail, and I don’t mean the luxury hotel where they were temporarily detained. Safe to say that if mid-Ball or the other 2 players do not make it to the NBA, China is out of the question; stupid way to cut your options.