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Unlikely KU will be involved but I'm sure some will end up on Big-12 teams. Post em all! The off-season is long

James Scott from Kennesaw State is transferring. Presumably transferring up. Averaged 17 ppg this year.

Mark Smith from Illinois, one time KU target

I don't even remember all the ones I already posted. Mainly because I don't expect KU to go for any.

Insert__ Kansas St player(s) after having to listen to Weber all year. It's a yearly thing ya know

Terry Larrier is leaving Uconn. Averaged 13 pts a game. Talented player that will be sought after.

Jakolby Long transferring from ISU. I bet they go after Tyler Harris again now.

BShark said:

Jakolby Long transferring from ISU. I bet they go after Tyler Harris again now.

Seen that one coming..

@BeddieKU23 Writing was on the wall when he couldn't crack the rotation on this year's weak team and Lewis started playing ahead of him.

BShark said:

@BeddieKU23 Writing was on the wall when he couldn't crack the rotation on this year's weak team and Lewis started playing ahead of him.

And it wasn't going to get easier for him next year with all the incoming guys.

@BeddieKU23 Agree, he was never going to see meaningful minutes.

@BeddieKU23

UConn may lose quite a few guys with the coaching change. Jalen Adams and Christian Vital may also be available (top 2 scorers) if UConn is either put on probation or they don't want to play for the next coach. UConn already lost an incoming recruit (James Akinjo - PG) that was ranked in the top 100. They also have a couple other four star guards that they were targeting that may be available for an enterprising coach.

With the season being over for all but a few schools after this weekend, lots of coaching positions will open up as schools fire and hire, and as players ponder the NBA or using the grad transfer option.

This site does a pretty good job of tracking transfers

https://www.verbalcommits.com/transfers/2018?division=D1 ↗

It updates daily (or even hourly) as news breaks, and even have whether the guy will be eligible immediately or not.

@justanotherfan

Good site. Thanks

Good Catch on Akinjo.

I can see Vital looking around, still 2 more years to play.

Adams really is in a tough spot. Either he returns for whatever new regime takes over, tries to go pro or has to transfer and sit a year just to play 1. I don't think option #3 looks likely but who knows.

I heard from my Brewster friend Kisunas will look around, one of Uconn's recruits.

@BeddieKU23 Too bad Adams can't grad transfer. He would be very appealing if that were the case.

Will be interested to see where Kisunas ends up. As I mentioned before if KU wasn't so loaded I'd hope we'd get involved.

@BeddieKU23

It's a lousy break to be a junior at a school where the coach gets fired/leaves. You either have to pick up and find somewhere else, or stick around and figure out a new regime. Maybe everything works out, but maybe it doesn't and you end up in a lousy situation. With transfer rules the way they are, it's really in most guys best interest to shoot for graduating in three years, that way if they don't have pro aspirations, they at least have some say in where they finish their playing career. Remember, for most, their senior year in college will be the last basketball they will ever play. To have to either sit a year, or pick up an entirely new system isn't exactly a dream scenario.

justanotherfan said:

@BeddieKU23

It's a lousy break to be a junior at a school where the coach gets fired/leaves. You either have to pick up and find somewhere else, or stick around and figure out a new regime. Maybe everything works out, but maybe it doesn't and you end up in a lousy situation. With transfer rules the way they are, it's really in most guys best interest to shoot for graduating in three years, that way if they don't have pro aspirations, they at least have some say in where they finish their playing career. Remember, for most, their senior year in college will be the last basketball they will ever play. To have to either sit a year, or pick up an entirely new system isn't exactly a dream scenario.

Absolutely agree. If the transfer rules change (and there's certainly talk of it happening) a player like Adams in the future might be able to transfer for his last year and not sit if he's not grad transfer eligible. Anytime a coach is fired kids should always have the option to seek a different opportunity.

@justanotherfan Those juniors just need to do better, then, and save their coaches' jobs. :boom:

mayjay said:

@justanotherfan Those juniors just need to do better, then, and save their coaches' jobs. :boom:

but not do too good where their coach leaves for a better opportunity.

@RockkChalkk In that case they get to declare for the NBA!

And all this time I thought kids went to school to get a degree and played sports on the side...silly me. :smile:

@JayHawkFanToo

Sadly, that hasn't been the case for more than 20 years, even at the D2 level!

@justanotherfan

I know, just being sarcastic.:wink:

One to keep an eye on if we miss on Romeo... https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/ryan-taylor-2.html ↗

FarmerJayhawk said:

One to keep an eye on if we miss on Romeo... https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/ryan-taylor-2.html ↗

You hearing anything in particular about KU already reaching out or just mentioning it?

We haven’t reached out since he was just announced today but KU will be active in the grad transfer market if they have a spot available and there’s a guy that fits a need.

@FarmerJayhawk Gotta imagine he'd be one of the best guard options around.

@BShark great piece to compete with Garrett for the 3 spot.

@BShark

He really improved from year to year. Could be a good 1 year addition.

Advanced stats are not great but I'll have to take a look at his film

BeddieKU23 said:

Advanced stats are not great but I'll have to take a look at his film

That's the only real concern. Someone had to score for this mediocre Evansville team. He took 18!! shots a game this year. The hope would be he could be a solid part of an actually good team in a smaller role.

BShark said:

BeddieKU23 said:

Advanced stats are not great but I'll have to take a look at his film

That's the only real concern. Someone had to score for this mediocre Evansville team. He took 18!! shots a game this year. The hope would be he could be a solid part of an actually good team in a smaller role.

Yeah just looking at it on paper he became option #1 so he took a lot of shots to get 21 points. Looking at his assists and other statistics its like he only showed up to shoot

Entire Pitt team wants to transfer. Good look for the ACC. LOL

@BeddieKU23

I bet Dixon is looking pretty good right now...:smiley:

If Dixon does get one or two of those guys, that's a huge coup for both him and for the Big 12. TCU's improvement only strengthens the Big 12, much as Baylor going from being a bottom feeder to a solid team helped improve the Big 12 (remember how bad Baylor was for the first 6-7 years the Big 12 existed).

As a conference, you always want teams moving up a rung. You want your worst teams to move from being bottom feeders to competitive, with an outside shot of making the NCAA tournament. That's where Oklahoma, Baylor, Oklahoma State and KSU are right now. That's where you want Iowa State to be next year as well. Obviously, all of those teams won't make the tournament, but you want them to all have the chance. Out of that group, you want one of them to move from barely making the tournament to having a top 7 seed, along with Texas and TCU. Out of that group of three, you want one of them to move into a position where they can get a top 5 seed along with WVU and Texas Tech. And finally, from that group, you want one to move up to the level of KU, where they are a legit threat to get on the one or two line, and have a chance to go to the Final Four. If you have two top 2 seeds, two more top 5 seeds, two more top 7 seeds, and three of the other four teams in the conference on the bubble, whether they make it in or not, that's a really strong league, both in terms of depth, and in terms of top talent.

The Big 12 has the bottom part and the middle part. They just need to take care of the top part.

BeddieKU23 said:

Entire Pitt team wants to transfer. Good look for the ACC. LOL

Yep.

https://www.sbnation.com/college-basketball/2018/3/16/17129338/pitt-transfers-kevin-stallings ↗

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/jeremiah-jefferson-1.html ↗

Keep an eye on Joshua Langford at MSU. Not happening for sure yet but could. Hearing this from family that are MSU grads and donors.

BShark said:

Keep an eye on Joshua Langford at MSU. Not happening for sure yet but could. Hearing this from family that are MSU grads and donors.

Really, I would love to add him if he became available

100% a take.I do not think Izzo has gotten the best from him yet. His PER and stats are very similar to a Freshman Malik and Sophomore Vick. His game is probably somewhere in the middle of those two. I think he would be the exact type of guy you would want 2 years from now. Would help tremendously with depth in case Grimes ends up a OAD.

I love the idea of taking high-end transfers to bolster depth in the future. Let's you recruit OAD talent for immediate needs much better without having a drop off after they leave. I really like the idea of having 1 or 2 transfers each season taking up your last two scholarships. I think that helps ego issues with players and allows you to get better players than you probably would on a 12th and/or 13th scholarship most years.

Thoughts on Jalek Felton?

Kcmatt7 said:

Thoughts on Jalek Felton?

Hell no.

@BShark What did he even do? I haven't really heard a report.

@Kcmatt7 Lots of rumors. I wouldn't go near him because we don't need to.

This thread is funny: https://247sports.com/college/north-carolina-state/Board/103752/Contents/What-happened-to-Jalek-Felton-115432094 ↗

@BShark Lol that is actually pretty dang funny.

But it is a good point that we don't need another PG.

Dear lord State fans are the most paranoid out there. The Felton thing was open and shut. The university did its work and gave him the boot. Felton will likely land at a JuCo or some no name program desperate for any talent. No program should go near him. Kid is a real piece of work.

@FarmerJayhawk

South Carolina may bite. Who knows though.

@FarmerJayhawk We are talking about a fan base that started an investigation into UNC which led to the NCAA investigation XD.

@BeddieKU23 I can't see Martin adding him. He took Bowen only after satisfying himself the kid had no part in the Louisville scam. A heckuva lot harder to find innocence in Felton.

@mayjay South Carolina has expressed interest.

@BShark oh I get that. I just live among them. Their little bro complex makes KSU’s look like a mild disagreement.

@mayjay yeah, South Carolina won’t. Or probably any legit program. Once they find out what he did, the publicity just isn’t worth it. Remember all the flack Baylor got for admitting the rapist from Boise?

@FarmerJayhawk This is fair maybe a lot of the programs that reached out already don't know the full story.

So he takes a JUCO year. Then he says he's changed and someone takes a chance on him.. Happens all the time

Huggins and Martin have in the past taken in shall we say "wayward" players, so I would not be surprised if he ends up at one of those two schools.

@JayHawkFanToo Martin is now more of a crusader than he used to be. He would take him in if he thought he could reach him and reform him, but not just because he wants a good player.

@mayjay

I agree. I am a big fan of Martin the person first and then the coach.

Baylor's Tyson Jolly will transfer

Wichita St incoming PG Alex Lomax has been released from his LOI. Will follow Penny to Memphis

Iowa's Brady Ellingson will be a grad transfer.

Cal's Don Coleman will transfer- Was their leading scorer. Had 35 in a game against Wichita St earlier this year.

OU after Maine grad transfer Aaron Calixte. Averaged 16 pts a game on a terrible team

West Virginia's D'Angelo Hunter will transfer. Odd timing seems how they are still playing. Played as recently as the Big-12 championship game

https://www.diehards.com/west-virginia/dangelo-hunter-west-virginia-bob-huggins-liar-twitter ↗

Sounds like he was getting forced out. Then probably became a distraction and so Bob told him to move along early.

Kcmatt7 said:

https://www.diehards.com/west-virginia/dangelo-hunter-west-virginia-bob-huggins-liar-twitter ↗

Sounds like he was getting forced out. Then probably became a distraction and so Bob told him to move along early.

Ouch, that was a lot of tweets. Explains the early exit. Not a good look for either side regardless

Yikes.

BeddieKU23 said:

Baylor's Tyson Jolly will transfer

Wichita St incoming PG Alex Lomax has been released from his LOI. Will follow Penny to Memphis

Iowa's Brady Ellingson will be a grad transfer.

Cal's Don Coleman will transfer- Was their leading scorer. Had 35 in a game against Wichita St earlier this year.

OU after Maine grad transfer Aaron Calixte. Averaged 16 pts a game on a terrible team

JUST SHOCKING. Good of WSU to let him go though. That will sting, I think he was going to be a good one for them.

OU needs all the help they can get.

NC St big man Yurtseven has been released from the team and will go overseas it looks

@BeddieKU23 WOW Alex was the stud on Wichita States recruiting. - -Big loss for them , but you saw that coming with Penny at Memphis.

I think he is going to have a lot of following from the local Memphis kids and quite possibly getting them to stay at home - that's ok - if the two Lawson's turn out for us like we hope - - - -I'm good with that - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@jayballer73

It was nice of Greg to let him go play for his coach and mentor without any issues.

@BeddieKU23 I'm actually somewhat surprised by it. Still dislike Greggggg though.

BShark said:

@BeddieKU23 I'm actually somewhat surprised by it. Still dislike Greggggg though.

Must have been having a bottle with slow gin lynn while he talked to him. It is surprising especially since he'll end up in the same conference playing them every year.

@BeddieKU23 Its such bad publicity now though to restrict where players can transfer. Just not worth it.

Wake Forest loses its 4th player due to transfer. This one is a big one as Keyshawn Woods will graduate and transfer. Averaged 12 ppg this season.

@BeddieKU23

The coaching seat at Wake Forest is getting very hot.

BeddieKU23 said:

Wake Forest loses its 4th player due to transfer. This one is a big one as Keyshawn Woods will graduate and transfer. Averaged 12 ppg this season.

I do not know how Danny still has a job tbh. He took such a big step back this season that I can't see him keeping his job unless he wins 20 games next year.

Looks like Penny will have Memphis up and running pretty quickly. There's enough talent from within the city that if he can keep those kids at home, he can have a legit program in just a couple of years.

As for Wake Forest, Manning is in some trouble there. Wake is such a tough job. NC State is a tough job, but Wake is in an even tougher position. It's the only major program in the state without any national titles (everyone else has at least two), and its always recruiting from a disadvantage. I'm not sure how to build a consistent winner there, particularly with UVA also strong. I hope Manning can hold out, but things aren't looking good.

Funny when you look back at it. Fired Dino Gaudio after a 20 win season. Haven't bee able to get back to that mark sense. 8 years. He had 25 conference wins in 3 seasons. Danny and Jeff have 37 wins combined over 8 seasons. Just awful.

Basically went the KU football route. Get rid of a coach that is performing about as well as you could reasonably expect on the field at your particular program, because the AD just wanted them to be gone. Follow that up with a splashy hire. Follow that up with a splashier hire. Watch you program go down in flames.

Wake boards are literally compiling a list of Mannings replacements for after next year already lol.

There is a 434 page topic labled "Danny Manning Credibility Watch"

Good lord do they want him gone...

@Kcmatt7 Wake's approach to trying to get better is sorta like living in the middle of a desert and moving to a new house every couple years because you can't grow a nice lawn.

Not surprising but Jacob Young transferring from Texas. Talk about a kid mishandled by Shaka, he's living proof. Will end up somewhere and be good his final 2 years.

I also wouldn't be surprised if Eric Davis wasn't on the team next year either. He was never re-instated after his name popped up with Andy Miller..

Transfer list 200+ and we haven't even hit April!

@BeddieKU23 Is Yurtseven a take if he wants to come here?

Joseph Chartouny of Fordham transfering and will be immediately eligible. Only reason mentioning him is because he led the nation in steals per game and total steals. Also averaged 12 ppg, 5 boards, 5 assists Sounds like he's a thief expert and has a stat sheet stuffing type ability

Kcmatt7 said:

@BeddieKU23 Is Yurtseven a take if he wants to come here?

Going overseas to play professionally.

So to answer your question I don't think he'll be a take for anyone

@BeddieKU23 Is that official yet? From what I've read, he may consider transferring as well.

@Kcmatt7

I don't believe KU has any room left, particularly bigs which is ironic given the current situation. Of course this assumes Doke is back which at this time seems likely given that his name is not in any NBA draft projections yet.

The extension of Manning's contract was very controversial at the time and many if not most fans thought he should show some results beforehand. Anything short of a wining Conference record next season and he is likely gone.

@JayHawkFanToo Well that contract makes me think it will be hard to fire him actually.

I actually think we have a spot left though. I don't see Cunliffe coming back at this point. And I believe Newman will also be leaving.

That would open up one scholarship. Two years from now, I don't expect Doke or Dedric to be on the roster, so there would be a fight for PT at the C position.

But it probably is a moot point. i'm sure he goes overseas.

Iowa State, Oklahoma, Baylor and TCU should all be considering the transfer route to get some help for next year with a grad transfer. The Big 12 as a whole could get some decent reinforcements via transfer for next season. The Big 12 really needs another nationally strong contender to help validate the conference.

Jacob Young is leaving Texas. Ouch Shaka.

@Kcmatt7

Yeah he might have to explore his options here if he doesn't find a good option overseas. I would hope if we have room for someone it will be looking towards the future. I am hoping Langford joins the frey for next yr.

He was much improved this yr and certainly could be expected to be even better if he joined a school like KU.

justanotherfan said:

Iowa State, Oklahoma, Baylor and TCU should all be considering the transfer route to get some help for next year with a grad transfer. The Big 12 as a whole could get some decent reinforcements via transfer for next season. The Big 12 really needs another nationally strong contender to help validate the conference.

Looking at the rosters at the moment Baylor looks like the team in desperate need of talent. They need 2-3 impact players on the perimeter. Lindsey & McClure are not starter material in my opinion and they have nothing else besides an incoming juco player.

I have no idea what's going on with Makai Mason, the once darling of Yale who played one game this year but has had issues recovering from an injury he suffered nearly two years ago. He reportedly said he'd transfer to Baylor a while back as a grad transfer as the Ivy league doesn't allow post grad players to play. They are also after a Memphis area PG in Tyler Harris. They definitely need an influx of talent.

I could see Iowa St going after a transfer big to play immediately. Right now they have Lard (if he stays), Solomon Young, Nebraska transfer Jacobsen and incoming freshman with long-term potential Conditt . They look set on the perimeter with 7 guys as long as Wigginton doesn't stay in the draft.

TCU is actually one over on scholarships at the moment. A deep team potentially that just has to figure out who's their starting 5 man. They have about 5 options to choose from. Dixon has that program poised for another step forward.

OU is definitely on the hunt for perimeter transfers. They are in the running for Calixte from Maine so far. If no one else leaves they have 1 to give. I think we see some roster movement though. Wouldn't be surprised if Freeman or Doolittle went somewhere else. They have too many guys playing the same position. Unless that nucleus gets a lot better in the absence of Young OU is poised for a big step back regardless of talent they add.

I wouldn't be surprised if Oklahoma St went after grad transfers with a few spots available. A post player would seem to be the biggest need. They had success with Smith this past year going that route.

If Zhaire Smith goes pro I think Texas Tech goes after immediate post talent. They have a need for at least two post players.

@BeddieKU23 Where would Antonio McDyess errr Lard be going?

I think that front court would be enough btw.

BShark said:

@BeddieKU23 Where would Antonio McDyess errr Lard be going?

I think that front court would be enough btw.

I don't know. ISU board has put out some chatter he doesn't like school, part of the reason it took him a 1 1/2 years to play in the first place. He can certainly up his pro potential coming back. He'd be a dominate post with more experience and development. Who knows who's in his ear or what he thinks.

BeddieKU23 said:

BShark said:

@BeddieKU23 Where would Antonio McDyess errr Lard be going?

I think that front court would be enough btw.

I don't know. ISU board has put out some chatter he doesn't like school, part of the reason it took him a 1 1/2 years to play in the first place. He can certainly up his pro potential coming back. He'd be a dominate post with more experience and development. Who knows who's in his ear or what he thinks.

Wow that would be a huge blow for them. He'd be one of the best post players not in Lawrence in the league next year. I'd consider taking him over Wade because defense.

I saw Wigginton declared for the draft wow.

BShark said:

BeddieKU23 said:

BShark said:

@BeddieKU23 Where would Antonio McDyess errr Lard be going?

I think that front court would be enough btw.

I don't know. ISU board has put out some chatter he doesn't like school, part of the reason it took him a 1 1/2 years to play in the first place. He can certainly up his pro potential coming back. He'd be a dominate post with more experience and development. Who knows who's in his ear or what he thinks.

Wow that would be a huge blow for them. He'd be one of the best post players not in Lawrence in the league next year. I'd consider taking him over Wade because defense.

I saw Wigginton declared for the draft wow.

Weak draft for guards. I expect he'll try and get info and get to the combine and then come back for one more year.

Isiah Brown of Northwestern transferring. Thought he'd be starting for them next season..

Jalen Dupree of Murray St leaving. 6'9 240 Soph averaged 5 and 4. Not KU level but maybe another mid-major level good.

Entire Pitt team is gone.

Harry Froling of Marquette leaving. 6'11 to be Jr.

Tarik Owens of St Johns. Bouncy 6'11 forward is eligible to play immediately..

Tubby Smith might be going to High Point. Interesting that the school has denied the transfer of their star player (before his hiring). Tubby just was ranting about transfers last month. Some irony..

@BeddieKU23

Tubby Smith’s career seems to be circling the drain and probably on its last stop at his alma mater High Point. A long fall from Kentucky to High Point. Other than winning a title at Kentucky with Pitino’s players the rest of his other stops have been pretty forgettable.

Jordan Sheppard and Kam McGusty leaving OU. They are going to SUCK next season. Kruger needs to hang it up.

@Kcmatt7

The McGusty one really hurts them. The PG leaving was nothing to lose sleep over. They can get someone better in the graduate transfer market

@BeddieKU23

Wichita State should be all over some of these players and delay the end of its perfect storm that brought several successful seasons by a confluence of unheralded players that turned out great but seems to be coming to an end. I believe they will be losing 4 starters if Shamet leaves and their top commit bailed out.

BeddieKU23 said:

Tarik Owens of St Johns. Bouncy 6'11 forward is eligible to play immediately..

By far the highest impact player from this particular group. Could be a rotation piece for a good P5 team or one of the best players for a mid major.

@JayHawkFanToo He is crusty at this point and has tired of recruiting. High Point is a nice place for him to finish his career. The Big South is a 16 seed type conference.

We will see with WSU. People thought they were going to flame out when Baker and FVV left. Didn't happen. They should be a bit down next year but they've always played a ton of guys, and their best players never even put up insane numbers.

@JayHawkFanToo

Definitely if McDuffie and Shamet return that's a good two'some. Reaves is a really good shooter. Jones will provide additional help on the perimeter. An entire front court of unproven freshman and juco's. Marsha going to have to find some starters on the market with his 2 spots left

@BeddieKU23 They 100% make the tournament if Shamet and McDuffie are back. Who in their conference will challenge them? UConn will be way down.

McDuffie is a VERY good player. Injuries curtailed his development this year. He was on track to be drafted after his SO year imo.

@BShark

The fall has already begun. They had a deep and experienced roster and did not win the conference or post season tournament and flamed out In the first game of the NCAA. Have they lost 4 starters before? I don’t believe so but I could be wrong.

BShark said:

@BeddieKU23 They 100% make the tournament if Shamet and McDuffie are back. Who in their conference will challenge them? UConn will be way down.

McDuffie is a VERY good player. Injuries curtailed his development this year. He was on track to be drafted after his SO year imo.

Houston will be very good again next year. Cincinnati still returns enough to be better then them as well. Seeing 3rd best unless SMU turns it around

@JayHawkFanToo Not sure. Losing that many starters is tough though for sure. KU is losing three minimum so we will have some growing pains too (but more talent).

@BeddieKU23 Fair points. Houston is losing 2 of their top 3 players though, do they have some talent coming in? Or just expected growth of other players? I totally whiffed on Cincinatti. They are a program type school now. Bring in guys that fit the system. Play tough defense. They will definitely have something to say about that conference race.

BShark said:

@BeddieKU23 Fair points. Houston is losing 2 of their top 3 players though, do they have some talent coming in? Or just expected growth of other players? I totally whiffed on Cincinatti. They are a program type school now. Bring in guys that fit the system. Play tough defense. They will definitely have something to say about that conference race.

Yeah Houston loses do it all Grey and Devin Davis who played that undersized forward spot for them.

They do however return their blazing fast PG Robinson, Corey Davis who was the other big-time shooter on the team and Armoni Brooks who made 83 3's at a 42% clip.. 5 rotation guys + two others who played over 20 games.

Not only that they have two transfers if you remember Dejon Jarreau & Brison Gresham former Top 100 players who package-dealed to UMass, left after a year, went to Juco together and now end up at Houston together. Jarreau averaged 9 ppg as a freshman. Gresham had freshman struggles as a 6'9 wirey forward. I can imagine Houston is a good spot for them. Sampson also snuck in and landed Nate Hinton #95 ESPN Top 100, #94 247, a 6'6 wing prospect with a lot of potential and probably one of the highest ranked players they have ever landed. Houston should be pretty good.

Cincinnati does lose a ton. If Jacob Evans leaves and there's some mocks putting him bottom of the first round that would be a huge blow to them. Do it all forward Gary Clark and Washington leave. As you stated Nati is a program type team and 9 guys who played last year will return.

@BeddieKU23 Thanks for the breakdown on Houston.

@BeddieKU23

Nice summary. Sampson can be a very good coach...when not breaking rules.

JayHawkFanToo said:

@BeddieKU23

Nice summary. Sampson can be a very good coach...when not breaking rules.

Absolutely he has turned the Houston program around. Both Football and Basketball have seen remarkable turnarounds.

BShark said:

@BeddieKU23 Thanks for the breakdown on Houston.

Anytime, I was impressed with their tournament run. tough, well coached bunch. Grey can play somewhere after College

@BeddieKU23 Maryland is going after Tariq Owens hard.

The Chris Mullen experiment has not gone well. Moments of brilliance, but mostly nothing but disappointment.

@BShark

Maryland left the ACC to get away from Duke and UNC and thought it could become top dog in the Big 10 but looks like it cannot decide whether it wants to be a football or basketball school. It does have big funding from Under Armour whose founder played football there.

Now 4 players gone from Illinois. Michael Finke with 1 year left and Tejon Lucas are transferring. Rough start for Underwood!~

Matthew Moyer transferring from Syracuse. Someone had to go with Bazley coming in.

Transfer list at 250+

@BeddieKU23 Seems like he just wanted the big payday. I think he did a good job at OSU, but when you jump jobs the way he did, you deserve to struggle.

@Kcmatt7

Agree, he should have stayed with OSU. Illinois was not a move forward for him. But Underwood has jumped jobs and now has to prove he can rebuild. Getting Ayo was a big piece but this team will not be competing for anything with the roster they have.

BeddieKU23 said:

Now 4 players gone from Illinois. Michael Finke with 1 year left and Tejon Lucas are transferring. Rough start for Underwood!~

I missed someone. I know Mark Smith and these two.

@BShark

Black left to go pro overseas

@BeddieKU23 Oh I actually knew that I was thinking there was another transfer. Illinois is going to be so bad next year.

Big loss for Florida St. CJ Walker transferring out. Will be a nice addition for someone. Averaged 8ppg, 2 assists

Chris Mack of Xavier is expected to take the Louisville job. IMO a huge mistake

BeddieKU23 said:

Chris Mack of Xavier is expected to take the Louisville job. IMO a huge mistake

That's....lateral right now imo.

BeddieKU23 said:

Big loss for Florida St. CJ Walker transferring out. Will be a nice addition for someone. Averaged 8ppg, 2 assists

If only it was MJ...

More Big-12 movement..

Brandon Averette leaving Oklahoma St.

Kris Martin transfers to Oklahoma from Colorado St. Sat out last season after transferring from Oral Roberts where as a Soph he made 73 3's. Will be interesting to see if he's eligible this season after already sitting out

@BeddieKU23 I don't think he could be eligible if he practiced with C State and attended class (the sit-out triggers). Otherwise transfers could just go someplace they didn't give a crap about playing for, planning on moving to a better program when they are eligible. Cannot see how that would work. Coaches would go berserk!

@mayjay

I actually think he'll be eligible. He already transferred into Colorado St and sat a year without playing for them.

Then Colorado St fired their coach Larry Eustachy who we all know has a checkered past.

CSU intends to terminate the coach’s contract based on Eustachy violating the zero tolerance policy he previously received regarding his abusive behavior toward players and staff, according to the source, who has direct knowledge of the school’s current investigation.

Colorado St did fire Eustachy and Martin was given a full release.

I'm sure he'll have to apply for a waiver in this case but I can't see a kid being forced to sit 2 years for nothing. That's not fair either. In this case the nature of his coach being fired probably gives him a good chance to go somewhere else and play immediately

@BeddieKU23 Coach being fired might change things enough for a waiver.

@BeddieKU23 On the other hand, Mitchell Robinson left WKY after attending only 2 weeks of summer school and was also granted a (grudging) release, but was not allowed to play anywhere immediately. (Apparently)

His situation is different because he went there even after his mentor asst coach was fired, and the head coach is obviously more central to players' choices. But, the NCAA has not been real sympathetic to multiple transfers in the past. Incidentally, @Kcmatt7 provided excellent analysis of this issue last August in the "2018 Recruiting" thread.

I think he sits out, gets yet another year of school for free, graduates, and transfers again!

mayjay said:

@BeddieKU23 On the other hand, Mitchell Robinson left WKY after attending only 2 weeks of summer school and was also granted a (grudging) release, but was not allowed to play anywhere immediately. (Apparently)

His situation is different because he went there even after his mentor asst coach was fired, and the head coach is obviously more central to players' choices. But, the NCAA has not been real sympathetic to multiple transfers in the past. Incidentally, @Kcmatt7 provided excellent analysis of this issue last August in the "2018 Recruiting" thread.

I think he sits out, gets yet another year of school for free, graduates, and transfers again!

We have definitely seen the NCAA make bizarre rulings in the past so nothing would surprise me.

I would say Mitchell Robinson wasn't the best comparison because he was a freshman with different circumstances.

The summer school detail makes this one different with him trying to leave WKU . Given that Braxton Beverley did the same thing (left Ohio St after Matta was fired but was enrolled in Summer School, transferred to NC St and applied for a waiver which he ultimately won after a few tries) I'm surprised Robinson didn't pursue this further. It makes me think other things were involved there with Robinson who certainly didn't seem to have a circle of people in his corner with his best intentions.

Martin however most likely transferred into Colorado St last year thinking he gets to play for Eustachy in 2018-19. He fulfills his requirement of sitting a year and at season's end his coach is fired for some detrimental conduct to his players etc.. Martin likely was apart of that so between the conduct and the coach being fired he might have a rather straight forward case here. They can also argue the 5 year window to play 4 would be violated if he was unable to play this season as he would have sat 2 years. A 6th year is usually only granted in medical waiver cases.

I'm assuming OU took him with the assumption he plays this year, they just might have to go through the red tape to get him..

Imo he should be able to play immediately. My opinion means crap but the kid went there for the coach, not the school.

@BShark I wonder if he will argue that he is just shy and Eustachy promised to help him meet cheerleaders and invite him to parties and stuff.

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@BeddieKU23 "I’m surprised Robinson didn’t pursue this further. It makes me think other things were involved there with Robinson...."

Yeah, I should have acknowledged that by never actually enrolling anywhere he never had a school apply for a waiver. Both KU and LSU backed off after a couple weeks of interest. Due diligence results, perhaps.

@BeddieKU23 WOW - - Avertte transferring out of Oklahoma State - really surprises the hell out of me -MERCY didn't see that coming

@BeddieKU23 @mayjay

I believe Robinson decide after the first week of Summer school that he really did not want to go to college and this is why he did not pursued it further.

@mayjay I think both of those teams wanted a guarantee that they would at least get 1 full year of him. Even if the waiver was denied. His camp probably said no.

Malachi Flynn leaving Washington St. Was one of the best players in the Pac-12 nobody heard of playing at lowly Washington St. Imagine he'll be one of the most sought after transfers. Sit 1 to play 2

@JayHawkFanToo He went on visits and looked in to it. But it looked like teams didn't like his chances and wanted a 2 year commitment. His camp apparently didn't think that was something they could promise and so it never ended up getting done.

Looking at it now, I think he would have gotten cleared by the NCAA. I also think he did the smart thing by skipping school. He will be a borderline lottery pick still, it looks like. I think we will start to see this happen more often if he really does crack the 1st round after not playing a second of CBB.

The decision was not up to Mitchell Robinson.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/trey-porter-1.html ↗

Grad transfer.

@BShark 6'10" & 200 lbs! Stork?

More Power 5 transfer casualties. Pretty much Monday thru Friday from now til summer.

Evan Boudreaux after Mack leaving Xavier has switched to Purdue

Maryland's Dion Wiley. Fell out of favor with Turgeon

David Nickleberry of Memphis. Regime change casualty

James Banks of Texas. That was expected a long time ago with Texas loading up on bigs.

Harrison Henderson from USC. Saw the writing on the wall with Brooks a Top 100 prospect rejoining the fold

BeddieKU23 said:

More Power 5 transfer casualties. Pretty much Monday thru Friday from now til summer.

Evan Boudreaux after Mack leaving Xavier has switched to Purdue

Maryland's Dion Wiley. Fell out of favor with Turgeon

David Nickleberry of Memphis. Regime change casualty

James Banks of Texas. That was expected a long time ago with Texas loading up on bigs.

Harrison Henderson from USC. Saw the writing on the wall with Brooks a Top 100 prospect rejoining the fold

Ah yeah, I was on the Maryland board the other day and they said they expected some attrition among their reserves.

I mentioned in another thread made about the UT transfers that it makes sense and there should be at least one more transfer out of UT.

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Oh wow Mitchell is really good. Kind of in a position though at Auburn where he would have had a lot of competition. Purifoy comes back from suspension and they have a transfer from VCU they are really high on in Doughty

More guys..

Khadim Gueye of South Carolina. Martin's annual get outta here kids.

Gabe Grant from Houston.

The starting backcourt from Alabany- Nichols and Cremo are both out. Cremo can really shoot it.

@BeddieKU23 Apparently the Albany guards are grad transfers. I'd be interested in Cremo if no Vick or Langford.

But it would probably be hard to sell a grad transfer to come into that minutes slog. Even if I think a good grad transfer would be firmly ahead of Moore and Cunliffe.

BShark said:

But it would probably be hard to sell a grad transfer to come into that minutes slog. Even if I think a good grad transfer would be firmly ahead of Moore and Cunliffe.

Cremo isn't good enough to play here but I agree its a hard sell with the stacked roster we got. I live 1 hr from Albany and he's a really good shooter but will be best at a lower level D-1 school. Surprised he left them. Albany had high hopes coming into the season and really underachieved from their normal

@BeddieKU23 Looks like Maryland and Syracuse are after him.

I just want Langford.

BShark said:

@BeddieKU23 Looks like Maryland and Syracuse are after him.

I just want Langford.

Me too. Interesting he's getting that kind of looks

I think it’s a product of the 2018 class not being very good. Programs don’t want to be tied to a player they don’t love just because they have to fill a hole. Better to go after the better 2019 kids with open scholarships.

@BShark I would love a Canyon Barry type to come in though. Someone just trying to actually go to school but happens to be a very solid good player.

Norm's son Justin is transferring from Toledo after 1 year..

Keith Smith leaving Oregon. Never got it going there as a former Top 100 kid

Robert Cartwright leaving Stanford. To be Senior guard never felt like a fit there.

CJ Keyser leaving Wichita St. Wichita imploding, down to 3 guys from last years team

@BeddieKU23 This was his second year there. Not playing much. He probably needs to go down a level.

Stanford needed space for Jordan Brown too, I think that's a factor there.

@BeddieKU23

Looks like the perfect storm at Wichita State is coming to an end and a cycle of mediocrity looms in the horizon.

JayHawkFanToo said:

@BeddieKU23

Looks like the perfect storm at Wichita State is coming to an end and a cycle of mediocrity looms in the horizon.

I don't see anyway around it honestly unless he fills those 3 spots available with some grad transfer studs or gets lucky on some spring commit.

McDuffie, Jones & Reaves are at least 3 starters. They need help that's for sure. Something feels odd here, almost like he's looking for a way out

Their class is decent. To me Marsha is like Huggins at this point. I trust that the low ranked guys they get can play better than most think.

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CJ Jones and Darious Hall leaving Arkansas. Neither moves the needle much.

Albany grad transfer Joe Cremo told ESPN that Chris Holtmann, Greg McDermott, Shaka Smart, Pat Chambers and Steve Wojciechowski will also be visiting him in Albany the next few days.

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CJ Jones and Darious Hall leaving Arkansas. Neither moves the needle much.

Wow but both would have started this season. Arkansas about to take a big step back from wherever that was

Transfer list approaching 400 names. Crazy

@BeddieKU23 Pretty ridiculous tbh. And yeah lots of kids transferring that would have started, I don't get it in most cases. With the grad transfers I totally get it though.

@BeddieKU23 @BShark

We are not even close to where the final number will be. Last season over 700 players transferred and according to the NCAA. ↗..about 40% of all MBB players who enter Division I directly out of high school depart their initial school by the end of their sophomore year.

I would expect about 800 players to transfer this year.

With the way things are in D1 now, if you aren't playing by your sophomore season, chances are you never see the floor, so kids are more apt to move. Once you have been in the program a couple of years, the staff has decided who you are within that program. They have determined whether or not they think you can play, so if they don't think that, they won't play you.

Plus, at the lower levels, coaching volatility is kind of high, so the guy that recruited you may be on his way out due to lack of success, too much success, retirement, etc.

Because sports takes up so much time at the collegiate level, its hard to stick somewhere when you're not playing and could play somewhere else. Look at the guys that have left KU - most went on to play elsewhere, many times starting and even starring at a different school. Hard to justify sitting and watching when you're good enough to play somewhere else.

Matt Mooney is potentially grad transferring from South Dakota. Says he might still stay. Their coach left for another job this offseason.

18.7/4/3/2 this season (similar numbers the previous season) with decent advanced stats as well. 36% trey gun.

Duke has contacted the Albany kid Cremo. Moooovin on up.

BShark said:

Duke has contacted the Albany kid Cremo. Moooovin on up.

Well they do need players don't don't stand 6'7 and do the same things. lol

Cremo getting a lot of attention. He can shoot it and he's a quality player. Going from America East ball to the ACC would be a stretch though. I think he's a better fit somewhere in the middle level wise.

Zach Hankins, D-2 Player of the Year signs with Xavier as Grad Transfer. Big dude, 6'11.

Some recent transfer movement

Oklahoma signs Miles Reynolds, a grad transfer from Pacific. 6'2 averaged 13 ppg. Not much of an outside shooter but lived at the FT a lot. Kruger found his PG for a year.

Coveted Evansville transfer Ryan Taylor lands at Northwestern.

Colorado St's leading scorer Prentiss Nixon transferring. Sit 1 to play 1 type. Averaged 16 ppg, volume scorer

Coveted Florida St transfer CJ Walker lands closer to home at Ohio St. Good fit for him. Sit 1 to play 2.

Albany transfer David Nichols lands at Florida St. Out with Walker, in with Nichols

Columbia grad-transfer Kyle Castlin 10 pgg lands at Xavier. 2nd transfer to land their since Chris Mack left

And there it. SKJ transferring from Kentucky. Sit one to play 2. I actually expect one more post to leave out of that group. Could be anyone at this point. But 5 is still a lot of mouths to feed.

Lol UK fans losing it on each other right now too.

Kcmatt7 said:

And there it. SKJ transferring from Kentucky. Sit one to play 2. I actually expect one more post to leave out of that group. Could be anyone at this point. But 5 is still a lot of mouths to feed.

Well, you called it. Props.

I would bet he ends up at UVA.

Kcmatt7 said:

Lol UK fans losing it on each other right now too.

Derp.

@Kcmatt7

UVA would be scary with a rim protector like SKJ in Bennett's system. They may hold a team under 25.

UVA would make a lot of sense for him.

@justanotherfan Well that was where he originally committed, and I have already read rumors actually. But I agree, not sure they have had a post athlete like him yet.

@Kcmatt7

I do remember him originally committing there. I can't remember anyone like that since Bennett got there, which could vault SKJ into the NBA if he's a lockdown rim protector for a year at UVA. I imagine a lot of ACC teams with that sinking feeling of being suffocated on the perimeter and funneled hopelessly into the teeth of a shotblocker. Rinse and repeat.

Texas Tech lands St Johns grad transfer Tariq Owens. Going to be a pain to deal with in the Big-12. Owens avg'd 8ppg, 5boards, almost 3 blocks per

Kris Martin who a few weeks ago decided to transfer from Colorado St to OU has decided to stay. Wonder if he wasn't going to be ruled eligible immediately..

Michael Carter the 3rd transferring from Washington.

Maciej Bender of West Virginia transferring.

BeddieKU23 said:

Texas Tech lands St Johns grad transfer Tariq Owens. Going to be a pain to deal with in the Big-12. Owens avg'd 8ppg, 5boards, almost 3 blocks per

Kris Martin who a few weeks ago decided to transfer from Colorado St to OU has decided to stay. Wonder if he wasn't going to be ruled eligible immediately..

TIME TO CHECK IN ON THE MARYLAND BOARD SINCE THEY THOUGHT THEY HAD HIM LOCKED UP IF BRUNO DECLARED.

Oh some very sensible threads.

Fire 🔥 🔥 Turgeon Now!

This site is depressing!!!!

What does Turge have to sell to recruits?

Sniffing and Wiffing

Negative recruiting and message boards

"selling him on their player development ability and their focus on winning, promoting the isolation of Lubbock -- the lack of distractions from basketball -- as a plus. "

Lol.

BShark said:

"selling him on their player development ability and their focus on winning, promoting the isolation of Lubbock -- the lack of distractions from basketball -- as a plus. "

Lol.

Owens old coach at Tennessee (his first stop) is in Lubbock. But I guess their water source really needs a change the way they react to things

@BeddieKU23 hmmmm, Bender? - -he was getting some quality minutes interesting.

jayballer73 said:

@BeddieKU23 hmmmm, Bender? - -he was getting some quality minutes interesting.

If Konate returns he wasn't going to start. I think the other forward spot is full too. Writing on the Wall...

@BeddieKU23 Yeah that's the real reason but you can't say that. Had to laugh at player development though. I'm sure Owens followed Beard's work at McMurry University and Angelo State closely.

@BeddieKU23 @jayballer73 They also added Derek Culver who is immediately better than him.

@BShark the fact that they have a 27 page thread on firing Turgeon cracks me up.

Not to mention how dellusional they are about who they could hire. Talking about Mike White, Jay Wright, Tony Bennett lol. That job is no better than any other P5 job for the most part. They must really think they are a Blue Blood type

Kcmatt7 said:

@BShark the fact that they have a 27 page thread on firing Turgeon cracks me up.

Not to mention how dellusional they are about who they could hire. Talking about Mike White, Jay Wright, Tony Bennett lol. That job is no better than any other P5 job for the most part. They must really think they are a Blue Blood type

They really want to be. The whole Dotson & Silvio recruitments really brought out how badly they want acceptance. some other fan bases we know get like that too

"Tariq Owens said role in offense was a factor, but biggest thing for him was wanting to win. Feels better chance for that at Texas Tech."

That tweet went over very well on their board.

BeddieKU23 said:

jayballer73 said:

@BeddieKU23 hmmmm, Bender? - -he was getting some quality minutes interesting.

If Konate returns he wasn't going to start. I think the other forward spot is full too. Writing on the Wall...

You feel Konate returns?

@Kcmatt7

Illinois

Indiana

Maryland

Missouri

Trying to think of all the truly delusional fanbases.

BShark said:

@BeddieKU23 @jayballer73 They also added Derek Culver who is immediately better than him.

I didn't realize Culver was at WV. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

jayballer73 said:

BeddieKU23 said:

jayballer73 said:

@BeddieKU23 hmmmm, Bender? - -he was getting some quality minutes interesting.

If Konate returns he wasn't going to start. I think the other forward spot is full too. Writing on the Wall...

You feel Konate returns?

I know Scouts are impressed with him. If he gets a combine invite he might stay in. Some scouts have said Jordan Bell going 2nd round and getting a big contract from the Warriors helps him. He's in the same mold.

I hope he leaves, can't stand him

jayballer73 said:

BShark said:

@BeddieKU23 @jayballer73 They also added Derek Culver who is immediately better than him.

I didn't realize Culver was at WV. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

He was supposed to be already at West Virginia but he flunked a class and had to go to Brewster for a year. He was really good for them

@BeddieKU23 They had a thread just last week over Dotson's comments at the McDAA. The actual hatred for him and his family was sickening.

@jayballer73 He was in last year's recruiting class but didn't qualify academically so he took a prep year at Brewster.

BShark said:

@BeddieKU23 They had a thread just last week over Dotson's comments at the McDAA. The actual hatred for him and his family was sickening.

@jayballer73 He was in last year's recruiting class but didn't qualify academically so he took a prep year at Brewster.

The internet is not a good place sometimes. Maryland's board is living proof

Even if Konate leaves Bender would have West, Ahmad, Harris and likely Culver in front of him. Likely wasn't going to get any more pt this year than last.

@BShark Maybe - but West and Harris are different position players then Bender aren't they?

@jayballer73 @BShark

They also have a Juco Center coming in. Logan Routt played for them last year too, sometimes getting more minutes then Bender

@jayballer73 In Huggy's "system" I don't see any big differences in the two post spots.

Calipari next year: We're so young! Nevermind that we recruit over our older players.

I would be shocked to see Quade stay at this point.

@Kcmatt7 Me too - - Quade is GONE - I think100%

So if Vanderbilt and Washington leave and Green transfers its a team of 8 lol

BeddieKU23 said:

So if Vanderbilt and Washington leave and Green transfers its a team of 8 lol

So young!

There are rumors Vanderbilt might take a medical redshirt next season. Dunno if transferring or will stay at UK.

BShark said:

BeddieKU23 said:

So if Vanderbilt and Washington leave and Green transfers its a team of 8 lol

So young!

There are rumors Vanderbilt might take a medical redshirt next season. Dunno if transferring or will stay at UK.

Wow I hadn't seen those. Good info.

At this point, I don't see Vanderbilt staying to come off of the bench again. He is either going pro or transferring imo. Green as well. UK fans are all happy right now, talking about depth. Its all about to leave lol.

I am glad that Bill doesn't recruit this exact same way. This would absolutely be frustrating and tiresome. They will be adding players probably through June at this point.

@Kcmatt7 It's like they weren't paying attention when SKJ transferred. You don't just add top 20 players and have older former top 20 players saying yippee I'm going to the bench.

@BShark Just basically bringing in another Shai, but it is going to cost them their best shooting guard from last year. I think this could turn into a nightmare for them honestly. We can only hope lol.

@BShark YIPPEE lol - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@Kcmatt7 And yet I'd be willing to bet if you were to check the fan boards I'd bet they are just beating the hell out of their chests not even considering about the transfers now and once again proclaiming how sure that this coming year the title for sure is their's WHY? - Cause their Kentucky don't you know lmao

Quade Green is considering transferring according to UK peeps. Imagine that becomes reality any day

@BeddieKU23 that wouldn't shock me. I'd think Cuse would be really strong if he did. KU won't have interest with Dotson already the guy for 19, and already having a similar player in Moore.

@FarmerJayhawk And having Jacobs on the way... Pretty set at that position, or else I'd be interested.

@Kcmatt7 good point. I'm not doing to discount Duke if Tre Jones is a OAD.

BeddieKU23 said:

Quade Green is considering transferring according to UK peeps. Imagine that becomes reality any day

Yeah. Commons sense broke this story before anyone at UK. Heh.

I would think Syracuse would be his go to. Make up for his original mistake like Newman did. Funny thing to me, he went to UK knowing he was going to be a multi-year player there. But I don't think he expected to be over-recruited.

48 hours ago, I thought UK looked like a top 5 team with depth and some experience. Now, I think they look like a 10 loss team again. They are now at a point where, for every new 5 star they take, they will be losing one with experience. Just seems like a poor trade.

• SGA > Hagans
• Sophomore Green > Quickley
• Knox > KJ
• PJ = PJ
• EJ = Junior SKJ

Don't see where they improved this offseason.

He should have just went to Syracuse in the first place tbh.

6'3 Charles Barkley clone DeSean Murray leaving Auburn to transfer or go pro. Averaged 10 and 6 a game. Big big loss for them

There are far too many transfers. It really is a problem. Mainly because I can't go through the list and figure out if any of them are any good because there are too many names.

ESPN used to keep a list and have about 15-20 that they basically said were worth taking. I would think they couldn't even keep up with the list this year it has been so absurd.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/aaron-calixte-1.html ↗

I'd be interested.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/kyle-castlin-1.html ↗

Kcmatt7 said:

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/kyle-castlin-1.html ↗

Ended up at Xavier

Kcmatt7 said:

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/aaron-calixte-1.html ↗

I'd be interested.

OU was interested but they went with the Pacific Grad instead. Calixte isn't KU material IMO. Played on a horrid team. These type of players are being overvalued a bit

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/joseph-chartouny-1.html ↗

Not impressed with his stats. Put up good assists and points, but not efficiently.

@Kcmatt7

I'm sure they will have a list soon. Goodman usually keeps on it. Verbal Commits has the list at 450 and climbing. And that's just the official confirmed released players

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/justin-coleman-2.html ↗

WOULD TAKE.

@BeddieKU23 Don't worry, I'm on it lol. I got nothing going on.

Kcmatt7 said:

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/joseph-chartouny-1.html ↗

Not impressed with his stats. Put up good assists and points, but not efficiently.

One of the top defensive players in the country. Lead the nation in steals I believe. Some P5 programs after him

@BeddieKU23 Louisville for sure. I guess I would take if that is the case. I didn't realize that.

Keyshawn Woods who left Manning wouldn't be a bad option. He can shoot and would give the team a veteran guard

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/christian-cunningham-1.html ↗

Meh. But serviceable if needed.

@BeddieKU23 OH. Yes. Him. Please.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/nat-dixon-1.html ↗

Of my list so far, probably one of the better defenders. By that, I mean his Defensive box minus isn't like -5 lol.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/michael-finke-1.html ↗

If we wanted a stretch big man.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/khwan-fore-1.html ↗

Meh.

Kcmatt7 said:

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/michael-finke-1.html ↗

If we wanted a stretch big man.

Looking at UNLV, Nevada and the Pac-12

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/zach-johnson-2.html ↗

WOULD TAKE FO SHO.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/ryan-luther-1.html ↗

He aight.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/matt-mooney-1.html ↗

Oh yes. Absolutely would. Maybe my favorite so far. Definitely top two with Woods.

@Kcmatt7

Mooney has big time attention. Michigan, UConn, Texas Tech, Oregon, Creighton, Indiana, Iowa St, TCU among others

And it looks like he's already picked out his visit spots. KU might be involved too late if they did reach out

Kcmatt7 said:

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/justin-coleman-2.html ↗

WOULD TAKE.

I think I mentioned him before. KU offered out of HS.

Kcmatt7 said:

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/zach-johnson-2.html ↗

WOULD TAKE FO SHO.

Could be a great fit given that he played for Dooles already for 3 years.

BeddieKU23 said:

@Kcmatt7

Mooney has big time attention. Michigan, UConn, Texas Tech, Oregon, Creighton, Indiana, Iowa St, TCU among others

And it looks like he's already picked out his visit spots. KU might be involved too late if they did reach out

Agree. Not much of a shot. Also someone with that kind of interest isn't coming to be in a deep guard rotation.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/david-nichols-1.html ↗

meh.

@BeddieKU23 If it isn't too late, KU needs to reach out. Will be a good get for whoever does land him. Plays at both ends of the floor.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/femi-olujobi-1.html ↗

Stretch 4. Meh.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/trey-porter-1.html ↗

Would take if we weren't so stacked in the post already.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/miles-reynolds-1.html ↗

meh

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/zaynah-robinson-1.html ↗

meh

Kcmatt7 said:

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/miles-reynolds-1.html ↗

meh

OU nabbed him to run point

Well that is the list. I like Woods and Johnson and that is about it tbh.

Kcmatt7 said:

Well that is the list. I like Woods and Johnson and that is about it tbh.

Woods is visiting Ohio St this weekend. I don't see him leaving without committing.

Johnson is interested in Florida. There might be some movement there

So basically I don't want a grad transfer lol. Not if these are the choices at least.

@BeddieKU23

I understand there might be a few more players reclassifying from 2019 to 2018. Any chance there is a potential diamond in the rough among them?

Will be interesting to see if any strong KU targets do that.

@BShark I’m really holding out hope for Stanley. There were rumors in the winter but there hasn’t been a lot since. But when these things happen, they tend to happen quickly, like Bagley last year. Haven’t heard anyone else really considering it.

@JayHawkFanToo

Definitely could happen. Although the ones that reclassify tend to be highly ranked and are not going to be under the radar

Lots of weekend action

Davion Mitchell PG transfer from Auburn to Baylor. Sit 1 to play 3. He's good.

Tarin Smith grad transfer from Duquesne to Uconn.

Former KU target Mark Smith transfers to Missouri. Eww

Anthony Mack from Wyoming to Miami. Sit 1 to play 3

Houston Baptist transfer David Caraher to St Johns. Was highly sought after.

Ibi Watson transferring from Michigan.

Not really seeing where KU has reached out to anyone.

BShark said:

Not really seeing where KU has reached out to anyone.

Me either. I don't know what to think of that. Seems they really want to wait out this Romeo deal before figuring it out. And to be honest nothing that's been available has really been a fit or the type of player that can move the needle for this team.

BeddieKU23 said:

BShark said:

Not really seeing where KU has reached out to anyone.

Me either. I don't know what to think of that. Seems they really want to wait out this Romeo deal before figuring it out. And to be honest nothing that's been available has really been a fit or the type of player that can move the needle for this team.

I think the FGCU player would be a top 4 rotation guard for us.

That said usually if the staff doesn't feel great about a recruitment we will see things where KU is involved with other recruits or transfer targets. So at the very least I would say the staff thinks they have a good shot at Romeo.

@BShark That’s the way my crimson and blue tinted glasses read the tea leaves as well. Nothing from Romeo, but the staff isn’t bracing for a whiff either. Either they are happy with what’s already in the fold or they are confident on Romeo signing (or both).

Wonder if the Langford's haven't told the coaches yet. I don't see Indiana or Vanderbilt active either with 2 spots open.

Kcmatt7 said:

Wonder if the Langford's haven't told the coaches yet. I don't see Indiana or Vanderbilt active either with 2 spots open.

Vandy has been active. They are after Matthew Moyer- a transfer from Syracuse. I have seen them interested in a few others as well.

Indiana has kicked the tires on some grad transfers. They want Matt Mooney from South Dakota who made it official he was leaving them.

@BeddieKU23 I kind of feel with Vandy being as active s they have been I think they have just got the feel that their chances for Romeo has dwindled, and now in on some others. - I have seen in some other places how they have cooled we shall see - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Yurtseven signs with Georgetown

@BeddieKU23 I didn't think he wasn't going to play pro overseas. I would have taken, no doubt.

@BeddieKU23

I thought Vandy was over the schoolie limit but I have noit checked recently.

If Langford comes to KU then the team is pretty much complete for next season. If he goes elsewhere, the wait might end up hurting KU some since it might have to pass on other prospects while waiting for him. Even without Langford, the team will be very good and we all know that Coach Self is known for pulling last minute surprises; perhaps someone that will reclassify that we don't know.

@JayHawkFanToo Two open spots

JayHawkFanToo said:

@BeddieKU23

I thought Vandy was over the schoolie limit but I have noit checked recently.

If Langford comes to KU then the team is pretty much complete for next season. If he goes elsewhere, the wait might end up hurting KU some since it might have to pass on other prospects while waiting for him. Even without Langford, the team will be very good and we all know that Coach Self is known for pulling last minute surprises; perhaps someone that will reclassify that we don't know.

Vandy cut some weight to make room. They are 2 under waiting the Romeo thing out. Active for transfers including Matthew Moyer who they may get anyway but he'll have to sit. It looks like they want at least 1 player for this upcoming year.

Honestly I don't think there has been anyone available that we've really missed out on. I think there will be more transfers coming up when kids finish their academic years so I'd imagine a few others (maybe even better options arise). I've been less then impressed with what's out there so far and you see a ton of programs reaching for some kids that played at smaller schools. Your not seeing the Malik Newman/Lawson types (while rare anyway), those are the caliber of players KU is after I would think.

Baylor actually nabbed one of the better players available but not at a position of need (PG), Davion Mitchell from Auburn (2017 #59 recruit).

I like being in a spot to be picky.

Kcmatt7 said:

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WOULD TAKE FO SHO.

Zach Johnson would be great for our golf team.

@BeddieKU23 Anthony Tarke intrigues me. Kid basically only played basketball his SR year of HS so he was well under the radar. Literally a 1 star recruit on ESPN. He crushed it at NJIT though. Bit of a volume shooter and needs to work on his trey but as a sit one to play two I feel he has a lot of value and could easily be a rotation level guy at a major program. The extra year off for further development will help.

However he doesn't solve anything for next year obviously so I'm not sure he is worth taking with the 19 class being so good and KU having good options.

Kcmatt7 said:

I like being in a spot to be picky.

Yep, it's nice lol.

The FGCU kid is the only grad transfer I would want.

We'd all like for the 13th scholarship added to be a rotation level guy because Agbaji probably won't be ready (staff seems high on him though) and Cunliffe looks like a scrub. But it will still be a very deep and talented roster regardless.

Kcmatt7 said:

@BeddieKU23 I didn't think he wasn't going to play pro overseas. I would have taken, no doubt.

I also thought he wasn't returning to the states. Out of HS he turned down a big deal to come to NC St. I guess there wasn't any big offers for him this time

Kameron McGusty to Miami. Former Oklahoma guard

Another Frank Martin casualty. David Beatty granted release

Transfer list approaching 500

BeddieKU23 said:

Another Frank Martin casualty. David Beatty granted release

I thought KU was giving him one more year... lol

@BeddieKU23

I believe there were over 700 last season so I think we will have close to 800 this time around.

@JayHawkFanToo

I think that's probably an accurate number. I don't see the numbers slowing down anytime soon

Oklahoma doubles up on the grad transfer route taking Aaron Calixte, from Maine.

The grad transfer number is probably two thirds done right now. Since there are 250 or so names that will pop up out there still, I anticipate a few more big names hitting the market. Once the draft market is set, then the transfer market will settle. Right now, Big 12 overall and KU in particular look good. I think KU is in good shape either way (with Langford) since Agbaji continues to climb.

He was ranked in the 300s a few months ago, but is more likely borderline top 100 now. He's not Romeo Langford, obviously, but he's not exactly a consolation prize, either. He will likely be a very good three or four year contributor in either scenario. His improvement over the last 14-18 months is amazing. If he had gone to prep school rather than college, he would be a very sought after recruit this time next year. We were lucky to be able to grab him when we did.

Matt Mooney- high scoring South Dakota guard has Texas Tech in his top 5

DeSean Murray has interest from Baylor & Maryland. Could follow his fellow teammate who committed to Baylor this week after 1 year at Auburn

Joe Cremo- is visiting Texas this weekend. Visited Creighton last week

BeddieKU23 said:

Matt Mooney- high scoring South Dakota guard has Texas Tech in his top 5

DeSean Murray has interest from Baylor & Maryland. Could follow his fellow teammate who committed to Baylor this week after 1 year at Auburn

Joe Cremo- is visiting Texas this weekend. Visited Creighton last week

Beard is a busy boy.

Arizona nabs Pittsburgh transfer Ryan Luther.

Rumblings Quade Green could transfer home to play for LaSalle. Amused by this

Umass Center Malik Hines will grad transfer. Avg 9 and 6 with 65% FG.

BeddieKU23 said:

Rumblings Quade Green could transfer home to play for LaSalle. Amused by this

LOL

Surprised it wouldn't be Cuse

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Fire sale at WSU.

Might finally be it for them.

Kcmatt7 said:

Might finally be it for them.

I honestly wonder what's going on. He was in line to start.

@Kcmatt7 I think Marshall is going to regret not leaving. They are not going to be very good the next couple of years.

@Woodrow I sure hope so.

Makes sense why they have had some many Juco's and under the radar recruits on campus lately. They just signed another, Dennis they think is a hidden gem

BeddieKU23 said:

Makes sense why they have had some many Juco's and under the radar recruits on campus lately. They just signed another, Dennis they think is a hidden gem

Every WSU recruit is a stud and hidden gem. Last time I interacted with a WSU fan I asked them to tell me exactly who the studs are in this class for them and who ends up being a star and what kind of numbers do they think those kids put up.

Got a bunch of silence in response.

The kid looks like a complete unknown, but also had offers from KSU, Ole Miss and Georgia Tech.

Oh this whole WSU scenario - has just got me at my wits end - - Mercy - -Mercy what will they ever do Now let's see Marshal's real coaching ability. Not sure what the hell is going on-think it's just been kind of a chain reaction - - -graduates - -then a player decides to test the NBA - then another player says to himself - - holy shit we lost a lot - well the hell with this I'm out don't want to stick around for this dumpster fire - -then ANOTHER player see's player A-leaving on top of every one else - -thinks " OH NO "- not happening -if he isn't staying - - I'm not staying - -like I said chain reaction. - Wouldn't cause me to faint if McDuffie didn't end up leaving too. - OK Marsha - - work your magic lol. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@BShark

Looks like the perfect storm at WSU is over and now is clear sailing into oblivion. Wichita has typically gone in cycles, a few good years followed by a longer period of bad years. Marshall should have left when the going was good and his value high. OTOH, if he can get his upcoming team to play at a decent or high level he will prove he is indeed a good coach.

Agree this will be a test for him. McDuffie if healthy is good but otherwise yeesh.

What a dumpster fire for Greg. Has he been slingin Gin with Lynn or what?

McDuffie is their only good player returning. He will be really good for them if healthy but then it's a bunch of low ranked FR and some JUCOs. It will be a test.

@BShark

McDuffie has never been a player to create his own shot. But yeah he's going to be their best player by a country mile.

I don't see anyway they will even have a winning record

@BeddieKU23 His SO year was extremely good. If he can return to that form with more usage he could carry them to...the NIT maybe....

Greggggg

Some rumors swirling that Reaves was in a relationship with Greg's daughter and it went south. Shockernet seems divided on the matter.

ALSO THIS WILL STUN YOU BUT THERE IS A KU HATE THREAD ON THE FIRST PAGE.

@BShark NO - - surely not - - -a KU hate thread on another teams board? - -your pulling my leg - NOT WSU? - - I hear ya man. --not surprised in the least.

Zach Johnson transfers to Miami. Immediately eligible

Eli Wright from Miss St to St Johns.

Matthew Moyer lands at Vandy. Tea leaves involving Romeo

UNC Asheville transfer Jonathan Bahre lands at Clemson

BShark said:

ALSO THIS WILL STUN YOU BUT THERE IS A KU HATE THREAD ON THE FIRST PAGE.

Flattering

Transfer list over 515. Seems to have slowed a bit before classes end. I expect to see more action picking up

Texas Tech is interested in Wichita St bad boy transfer Austin Reaves

Braxton Key transferring from Alabama. Injury sidelined his 17-18 season big time. Big body, former top 50 recruit

Quade Green's mother says her son will return to Kentucky.

That could put a kibosh on Haggans going to 18 class

BeddieKU23 said:

Braxton Key transferring from Alabama. Injury sidelined his 17-18 season big time. Big body, former top 50 recruit

This is a kid worth taking. Would do well under a real coach probably.

BeddieKU23 said:

Quade Green's mother says her son will return to Kentucky.

That could put a kibosh on Haggans going to 18 class

Huh. Surprising.

I'm actually surprised. I would be that still changes if somehow Maxey and Haggans end up in 18.

@BShark

No kidding.

Key was really good as a freshman, I believe he declared and came back to school. Shooting numbers were down as well as his minutes. I was a fan of his in HS and I know KU had some interest before.

Iowa St lands Colorado St transfer Prentiss Nixon who averaged 16ppg last year. Sit one to play one. This looks like a move to cover Lindell Wigginton's short stay in Ames.

Oklahoma St adds Mike Cunningham, a grad transfer from USC Upstate who averaged 13ppg. Immediately eligble

James Banks who transferred from Texas lands at Georgia Tech. Sit one to play 2

Another former Longhorn Jacob Young lands at Rutgers. Sit one to play 2

As expected Keyshawn Woods who started at Wake Forest goes to Ohio St as a grad transfer.

@BeddieKU23 Why do they call it USC Upstate? Because they didn't want to call it North South Carolina.

KUSTEVE said:

@BeddieKU23 Why do they call it USC Upstate? Because they didn't want to call it North South Carolina.

That would have been a bit confusing. However I'm still confused why its called Upstate

Posting where my talents are better used!

Nevada adds Old Dominion transfer Trey Porter as a grad transfer. Huge need for them and if their 3 to-be seniors return this is a Top 10 squad next season.

Ibi Watson of Michigan goes to Dayton. Sit 1 to play 2

DeSean Murray of Auburn goes to Western Kentucky as a grad transfer. Big pickup for them

Ricky Torres a Juco All-American signs with Wichita St to become the Shockers 18 thousandth roster movement. Probably a good chance he starts

@BeddieKU23

WKU could be sneaky good next year. Potential tournament team if they can put it all together.

WSU will have a completely new rotation next season. Will be interesting how their staff handles that much turnover.

@BeddieKU23 I think of the regular old USC here in Columbia as being in a perpetual sort of Downstate.

More seriously, I think it is an adjunct of the USC system but they don't use city names here as they do for, say, University of California at (wherever).

Upstate is just a reference they use here for the northern part of the state. Like New York Uptown.

justanotherfan said:

@BeddieKU23

WKU could be sneaky good next year. Potential tournament team if they can put it all together.

WSU will have a completely new rotation next season. Will be interesting how their staff handles that much turnover.

I wouldn't be surprised if both of those statements are true. WKU did well in the NIT. I think some of its nucleus returns outside of Coleby.

One time KU target Ike Obiagu leaving FSU. Terrific rim protector.

FarmerJayhawk said:

One time KU target Ike Obiagu leaving FSU. Terrific rim protector.

I hope we pursue. FSU was mighty high on him going forward

Arizona lands PG grad transfer Justin Coleman. Sorry Alex Barcello your not good enough for Stumpy dumpy

BeddieKU23 said:

FarmerJayhawk said:

One time KU target Ike Obiagu leaving FSU. Terrific rim protector.

I hope we pursue. FSU was mighty high on him going forward

Mehhhhh. He should go to Maryland or something.

Also do you know what the hell is going on down there? EE run and players are leaving? CJ Walker was going to be the starting PG again and left...

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Cremo will visit KU per Corky.

BShark said:

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Cremo will visit KU per Corky.

wowza

BeddieKU23 said:

BShark said:

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Cremo will visit KU per Corky.

wowza

It's over with Langford turn out the lights.

That said, Cremo would be a quality addition.

BShark said:

BeddieKU23 said:

BShark said:

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Cremo will visit KU per Corky.

wowza

It's over with Langford turn out the lights.

That said, Cremo would be a quality addition.

He might be the best option given what's out there currently. Best option in terms of shooting, experienced guard. Definitely has Svi-like shooting ability from deep. Not a great athlete, decent defender in the American. If he wants to start I don't see that role at KU, he would be a quality rotation type

BeddieKU23 said:

BShark said:

BeddieKU23 said:

BShark said:

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Cremo will visit KU per Corky.

wowza

It's over with Langford turn out the lights.

That said, Cremo would be a quality addition.

He might be the best option given what's out there currently. Best option in terms of shooting, experienced guard. Definitely has Svi-like shooting ability from deep. Not a great athlete, decent defender in the American. If he wants to start I don't see that role at KU, he would be a quality rotation type

I'd listen to arguments that Cremo is better for KU next year than Langford would have been. Not saying I'd agree, but I'd listen.

Obviously Romeo is the better long term player and an NBA level talent but we are talking about a 22 y/o skilled finished product vs an 18 y/o freak athlete.

You can also ask Cremo to handle the ball some, whereas you don't get that with Romeo.

The bigger impact Romeo could have had was on defense but he would have needed to buy in and I'm not sure I get that vibe from him. More Wiggins than Jackson imo. Plus not to belabor the point but he is 18, guards rarely come in and dominate defensively as FR.

How in the world did Louisville not win more with Donovan Mitchell on the roster? Hookers must be exhausting.

dylans said:

How in the world did Louisville not win more with Donovan Mitchell on the roster? Hookers must be exhausting.

Where was the crap piled on Pitino for only playing him 19 mpg as a FR? :rolling_eyes:

dylans said:

How in the world did Louisville not win more with Donovan Mitchell on the roster? Hookers must be exhausting.

To Louisville's defense Mitchell never put it all together in College but he had plenty of moments where he was good. In the right fit, with a need for a player to emerge he took that chance and ran with it.

@BShark

Donovan Mitchell was only ranked #43 by ESPN and he really transformed his game between his freshman and sophomore years and now he is taken it to the next level in the NBA and he is doing great in the playoffs. He is the stereotype of a player that benefited greatly from playing a second year in college; he would have been undrafted after his freshman year and went lottery after the extra year.

BShark said:

BeddieKU23 said:

BShark said:

BeddieKU23 said:

BShark said:

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Cremo will visit KU per Corky.

wowza

It's over with Langford turn out the lights.

That said, Cremo would be a quality addition.

He might be the best option given what's out there currently. Best option in terms of shooting, experienced guard. Definitely has Svi-like shooting ability from deep. Not a great athlete, decent defender in the American. If he wants to start I don't see that role at KU, he would be a quality rotation type

I'd listen to arguments that Cremo is better for KU next year than Langford would have been. Not saying I'd agree, but I'd listen.

Obviously Romeo is the better long term player and an NBA level talent but we are talking about a 22 y/o skilled finished product vs an 18 y/o freak athlete.

You can also ask Cremo to handle the ball some, whereas you don't get that with Romeo.

The bigger impact Romeo could have had was on defense but he would have needed to buy in and I'm not sure I get that vibe from him. More Wiggins than Jackson imo. Plus not to belabor the point but he is 18, guards rarely come in and dominate defensively as FR.

Cremo's greatest skill is our biggest need.

It's a good thing he's not a small guard, he's more 6'5ish the last time I saw him in February. His value to the team could absolutely compare to Tarik Black a few years back. No ego, lives in the gym. Some kids work hard, this is the type that is first in and last out. He lives to play basketball. That in itself is a valuable commodity to have on your team pushing young kids to work hard. I think he's someone that can average 6-7 points a game here while having a bigger impact as a teammate.

I know I was initially down on him if KU pursued but I get it from a Coaching perspective. There might not be a better kid available from a skill and character level

40% of Cremo's games this year he made 3 or more three's.

He was the best shooter in the America East conference by a wide margin.

If Self offers I think he takes it

@BeddieKU23 If he can play passable defense and be a good shooter off the bench I'd take that. Something like 20-25 minutes a game seems feasible.

Cremo works as a designated shooter in a lot of different lineups. He could be a nice addition if KU misses on Langford. 18-20 minutes a game off the bench shooting 3-5 threes per game, I could see him being a really nice asset. I don't think he could start because he probably won't be versatile enough, but he could be a bench guy that scores a few points a game, with the potential to hit 6 or 7 threes on any given night.

@justanotherfan

Bingo! That's what he is, at times a lights out shooter. Really good from the FT line as well so he has value at end of game situations. Often played out of position for Albany because Nichols (who transferred to FSU) this spring as well wasn't a true PG. Cremo is a true SG that has some vision and shot making ability. A specific role at KU could make all the difference

I see Cremo as a 2/3 at KU. He can play the 2 and slide Grimes or Garrett to the 3. He played some point at Albany but I’d rather have him off the ball. He does have a good enough handle to bring the ball up on occasion. I think he competes for a starting gig immediately if he picks us.

Baylor has landed high scoring transfer MaCio Teague.

Can Cremo create his own shot? Designated shooters who need to be open spot haven’t worked well for KU, have they?

@Gorilla72

He can create his own shot. He'd instantly become the best shooter on the team

Duke looked at him. He's visiting Villanova this week as well. Gonzaga, Creighton, Texas also on his list. He's got plenty of attention from big programs

BeddieKU23 said:

@Gorilla72

He can create his own shot. He'd instantly become the best shooter on the team

Duke looked at him. He's visiting Villanova this week as well. Gonzaga, Creighton, Texas also on his list. He's got plenty of attention from big programs

HE VISITING VILLANOVA WEDNESDAY

justanotherfan said:

Cremo works as a designated shooter in a lot of different lineups. He could be a nice addition if KU misses on Langford. 18-20 minutes a game off the bench shooting 3-5 threes per game, I could see him being a really nice asset. I don't think he could start because he probably won't be versatile enough, but he could be a bench guy that scores a few points a game, with the potential to hit 6 or 7 threes on any given night.

I don't think he starts either. Starting line-up should be Dotson, Grimes, Garrett. I could maybe see Moore early in the season but I hope not.

@BShark

If Doke is back, Cremo may need to start in a Doke-Dedric-Grimes-Dotson lineup to space the floor a bit more. I'm still waiting to see how Garrett's shot progresses before I decide where he can fit in different lineups.

@BShark

If Moore is starting it means he is really playing well enough to beat one of the big names...which is a good thing.

I actually heard that Moore was really good in practice last year and surprised the staff quite a bit. At some points he was "unguardable".

@Woodrow - some of KU’s opponents last year were “unguardable”. 🙄

@Gorilla72 True story. I was not really expecting much from Moore next year so when I was told this I was quite encouraged.

justanotherfan said:

@BShark

If Doke is back, Cremo may need to start in a Doke-Dedric-Grimes-Dotson lineup to space the floor a bit more. I'm still waiting to see how Garrett's shot progresses before I decide where he can fit in different lineups.

That would be a pretty good starting line-up tbh. Growing pains for Dotson and Grimes but otherwise very good.

I think Doke is gone and we see both Lawsons starting in the post.

JayHawkFanToo said:

@BShark

If Moore is starting it means he is really playing well enough to beat one of the big names...which is a good thing.

I see it just as easily being possible in the other direction. Grimes clashes with Self early (for w/e reason, probably lack of defensive effort) and Self teaches him a "lesson" like Oubre. It would be stupid, but we've seen it before.

Woodrow said:

I actually heard that Moore was really good in practice last year and surprised the staff quite a bit. At some points he was "unguardable".

This would be the first positive thing I've heard about Moore emanating from the program. Hope it's true.

@BShark

That would be a bad thing if Grimes isn't playing. Grimes is one of the five most talented players Self has ever recruited to KU. Only Embiid, Wiggins and maybe Josh Jackson can get ahead of him. If Langford comes to KU, Grimes is still fourth or fifth. Him not playing would be a big deal and a potential disaster.

Grimes should play (and play a lot) from Day One. Grimes has legitimate superstar potential at the pro level, nevermind college (as does Langford). Self hasn't had that at his disposal before.

justanotherfan said:

@BShark

That would be a bad thing if Grimes isn't playing. Grimes is one of the five most talented players Self has ever recruited to KU. Only Embiid, Wiggins and maybe Josh Jackson can get ahead of him. If Langford comes to KU, Grimes is still fourth or fifth. Him not playing would be a big deal and a potential disaster.

Grimes should play (and play a lot) from Day One. Grimes has legitimate superstar potential at the pro level, nevermind college (as does Langford). Self hasn't had that at his disposal before.

I agree with you but I will put nothing past Self.

Some people do disagree about Grimes, seen some say a worse Selden.

Brandon Roy is a decent comp for him, imo.

What I like the most about Grimes is that he is a crafty player. Has some old man/junk to his game already. Dedric is like that too.

Sounds like Romeo sent in his NLI to Indiana on Saturday so it's safe to write him off now.

Louisville adds grad transfer PG Christen Cunningham to its roster

West Virginia adds Juco transfer Jermaine Haley a 6'7 guard.

Tennessee adds grad transfer PG Kwan Fore to its roster

Wake Forest adds transfer point guard Tory Johnson. Immediately eligible.

They also added Buffalo grad transfer Ikeena Smart 6'10 post. Started 25 games and was apart of the team that upset Arizona in the first round

Sounds like Jay Wright wasn't at Nova campus much if at all yesterday when Cremo visisted. Could be an interesting dynamic there

Big loss for West Virginia. Teddy Allen will transfer

Some hawks are following Cremo now on social media. Could be a positive sign?

:newspaper: :coffee:

Virginia lands Braxton Key. Sit one to play 2.

BShark said:

:newspaper: :coffee:

Good news?

I think so.

BeddieKU23 said:

BShark said:

:newspaper: :coffee:

Good news?

Let's see Braxton Key? - -where was he from again? - - -and does this effect Cremo in anyway - - haven't heard how his visit to KU went this weekend?

@jayballer73 Key went to UVA.

Was watching some more on this Cremo kid. - -Looks like has a lot of catch and shoot - capable at times looks like of knocking down deep 3 - -distance.- Was stated he has like a little Jeff Boschee in him. - - Not a great defender , if he wants a lot of minutes that's gonna have to change. Not how good he is a getting his own shot , seen possible couple of times maybe create - -but looks to me a lot more catch and shoot. - - if he commits here - we shall see.

@jayballer73

He won't be a good defender here. But he does a lot of other things well. He can push the young guys, he's a gym rat and works hard and has no ego. We have a need for a shooter. I have no idea whether he'd get a ton of minutes here as the difference between Albany and KU level is significant. He is the best available out there that fits our need though

@BeddieKU23

Will he be the new version of Brannen Greene minus the attitude? Greene was perhaps the best pure shooter I have seen in college but his attitude and ego prevented him from having a more substantial role at KU.

@JayHawkFanToo

I would say comparable in terms of pure shooter. I think Svi is a good comp as well. He's not a great athlete/defender but he knows how to score and his shooting %'s have always supported that.

Cremo to nova

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@BigBad

When you win the title you attract the better players; no doubt it helped Villanova. With its recent success Villanova will be getting looks from higher ranked players that want to stay in the East Coast, more of an issue for ACC teams and even UK than it is for KU, although in this particular case I would have liked for Cremo to come to KU.

I'm guessing all their guys will sign an agent and stay in the draft.

Nevada continues to crush the graduate transfer market.

Ehab Amin, a 6-foot-4 graduate transfer from Texas A&M-Corpus Christi signs with Nevada. Averaged 16 a game as a jr, missed last year with hip injury.

Crimsonorblue22 said:

I'm guessing all their guys will sign an agent and stay in the draft.

Can't see him going there if the racist Italian was coming back.

I have committed to Coach Marshall and Wichita State University. I want to thank everyone who’s supported me throughout this process and my freshman year. Can’t wait to get to work in Wichita ! All the glory to my Lord and Savior ! Copied and pasted from teddy buckets(Allen) wvu

@Crimsonorblue22 I hope he wasn’t trying to get away from big brother KU. I’m fairly certain KU is more on WSU’s mind than WVU and Wichita doesn’t get a chance to do anything about it. 😝

@dylans I really don't know why he was in huggy's dog house, do you? He was in there a long time. I don't think he played much against us in tourney. Have to look. Guy can shoot. Kinda funny he went from huggy to Marsha.

@Crimsonorblue22 I have no idea. Maybe because he looks like Brannen Greene?

Crimsonorblue22 said:

@dylans I really don't know why he was in huggy's dog house, do you? He was in there a long time. I don't think he played much against us in tourney. Have to look. Guy can shoot. Kinda funny he went from huggy to Marsha.

From Huggy to Smuggy!

Mooney to TTU.

Reaves from WSU is headed to ou

Ehab Amin decommitted from Nevada. I wouldn’t hate adding him. 6-4, averaged 17 points and almost 7 boards a couple years ago.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/23584806/how-college-basketball-free-agency-shaping-up ↗

transfer list approaching 8 hundred fitty. Crazzy times