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Does KSU beat VCU...I mean Loyola?
Mar 23, 2018 04:21 AM #1

VERY similar situation that KSU is in compared to where we were in 2011.

No reason we shouldn't have made the Final Four. No reason KSU shouldn't either.

Mar 23, 2018 04:24 AM #2

Loyola is ranked ahead of KSU on Kenpom. Them being in the MVC made it so they were wrongly seeded.

Mar 23, 2018 04:29 AM #3

BShark said:

Loyola is ranked ahead of KSU on Kenpom. Them being in the MVC made it so they were wrongly seeded.

So, Wichita State got out of that trap. Good thing for them!

Mar 25, 2018 01:53 AM #4

Looks like they got the VCU bite. Unfortunately we can sympathize.

Mar 25, 2018 01:56 AM #5

@chriz I think Loyola was simply the better team.

Mar 25, 2018 12:12 PM #6

@BShark Right, Loyola was just better, particularly when KSU was missing its best player in Wade. VCU wasn’t near better than KU in 2011. Perhaps the worst loss in Self’s tenure at KU. When a coach chooses Morningstar and Reed over EJ, Releford, and Selby, he deserves his chosen fate. Security over ceiling helps one win the conference. Similar to dispatching top 5 player Diallo to a non-role. Creates more stability in the conference season, but in the tourney, the landscape is different — Villanova should thank Self for their title. That,
and his complete inability to get Ellis into the game and the fact that they were one step ahead all day, even beating us to our own handoff spots.
Just flat outcoached by Jay Wright that day.

Self needs to bring his A game today.

Mar 25, 2018 01:26 PM #7

Jay Wright is a really good coach. I'd expect trouble again if that match-up happens in the FF. But one problem at a time...

Mar 25, 2018 01:33 PM #8

Loyola shot the ball lights out, almost at the level of Villanova vs. Georgetown back in the Rollie Massamino days. 50% from 3 and 57% overall. You are gonna loose when that happens. I was surprised Kstate's vaunted defense seemed so pedestrian. They came out flat and could not get in any rhythm. I think in the back of their minds, knowing Wade would not play, took something out of them. I have to give Weber credit for benching Wade in order to protect his Bball future. That took guts.

Mar 25, 2018 01:45 PM #9

No

Mar 25, 2018 01:49 PM #10

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