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BeddieKU23
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Hmmm so that guy goes over the line no redo??
Are you kidding me
Wow dot
Wow so a turned down 3, a missed layup and now only 1 pt. We need to clean that up
Dotson turning down open 3s wtf
@wissox said in Win It Outright Game Thread:
@BeddieKU23 My favorite Kentucky stat of the year. Lose at home to Evansville which goes 0-18 in their league!
And lost in the first round of their tournament
@RockChalkinTexas said in Win It Outright Game Thread:
@BeddieKU23 said in Win It Outright Game Thread:
@RockChalkinTexas said in Win It Outright Game Thread:
Kensucky getting rolled!! Haha
That's a coach of a year candidate and ours isn't.
SMDHWait Calipari is a coach of the year candidate?
Yes. Naismith
Hahahaha wow proof that nobody actually watches basketball
Cal got ejected
@RockChalkinTexas said in Win It Outright Game Thread:
Kensucky getting rolled!! Haha
That's a coach of a year candidate and ours isn't.
SMDH
Wait Calipari is a coach of the year candidate?
@BShark said in Win It Outright Game Thread:
@BeddieKU23 said in Win It Outright Game Thread:
Hacker nation. Beard watched alot of huggy bear basketball
Tech is awfully hacky and floppy. Super gross.
They watch a lot of mark vital and west Virginia apparently
West Virginia has conceded trying
Hacker nation. Beard watched alot of huggy bear basketball
Wow 4 guys on him
Hahahaha that's a foul. Get out of here
That shot gets blocked by doke
3 fouls on dokes dunk
Doke just rocked the rim
Do your job refs. You suck
Is there anyone that reads scouting report??? Ramsey shoots 90% of his shots around a screen
Dotson had crazy control there
Man that was close to 2
Agbaji actually lined up the puppies there
That's one clunky rim
So fn lucky
Dotson gonna have to score 30
Hahaha calling 3 seconds is such a pansy move
Really Vitale!
Booom
Under NCAA head coach control legislation, head coaches are presumed responsible for violations
committed by those who report to them, i.e., assistant coaches and other staff members who report to the
coach." Based on publicly available information, all of the schools implicated in the SDNY cases—with
the exception of KU—appear to have a coach involved in either accepting or providing money for an illicit
purpose, thereby implicating the head coach at those schools under the head coach control legislation.
But that theory of head coach responsibility is not available in the KU case because neither Self
nor anyone on his coaching staff knew of or was involved in any alleged illicit payments. Moreover, Adidas,
Gatto, Gassnola, Code and Cutler are not members of Self s staff and, therefore, Self is not responsible for
their actions and conduct which may violate NCAA rules
However, no evidence was adduced in either the federal criminal trial or the record developed by
the enforcement staffs investigation that demonstrates clearly and credibly that KU, Self, or his staff were
aware that Adidas employees and consultants were boosters.
In fact, under the sponsorship
relationship between Adidas and KU, it was actually KU' s obligation
to promote Adidas.
Adidas and KU had a Legitimate Arms' - Length Sponsorship Agreement
Beginning in 2005, Adidas and KU entered into an arms'-length sponsorship agreement which
contractually required that Adidas pay KU monies and provide goods and services in return for KU
promoting and marketing the Adidas brand — not for Adidas promoting KU's athletics program.
In Self's response I thought they did a great job of ripping apart the allegations against him and that Gassnola or Adidas was a booster. They ask if these people were boosters then provide evidence when they started being boosters. The NCAA definitely failed to disclose any information regarding that
Reading some again.
Still on Coach T's response and they break down case precedent for his violations. T is charged with level 1 which is the most serious. Case Precedent here would drop his allegations, if any of them were actually violations to Level 3.
It was repeated many times that they lacked precedent in these charges
Its ludicrous the NCAA went to level 1 with T.
@dylans said in NOA response from KU discussion:
@BeddieKU23 Shots fired!
This one backs up coach T
The end of the section also notes that Williamson's parents were interviewed by enforcement staff in November and "expressly rejected the idea that KU or its coaches had done, said, or suggested anything improper during [Williamson's] recruitment."
5 senior KU administrators asked questions about boosters.
QUESTION: In your view as athletics director, do you view Adidas as a representative of KU's athletics interests?
JEFF LONG: No. You know I never had, candidly, in my career looked at a shoe or apparel person as a representative of our athletics interest. I see them as a sponsor.
QUESTION: Did you regard Adidas as a representative of Kansas' athletics interests?
SHEAHON ZENGER: No. I saw them as a partner, as any other institution viewed their apparel sponsors.
QUESTION: And was the Adidas relationship, did it have any objective or purpose as to helping secure enrollment of prospective student-athletes to KU?
ZENGER: Absolutely not.
QUESTION: As a long-time athletics administrator, are you familiar with the term representative of the institution's athletics interest?
LARRY KEATING: Yeah.
QUESTION: At any time did you ever consider Adidas to be a representative of the KU's athletics interest?
KEATING: No. Not at all.
QUESTION: And why is that?
KEATING: They're not. They're representing their own interests. Not ours.
QUESTION: What I'm asking is from your point of view in real time, did you ever in your own mind, regard Adidas as a representative of KU's athletics interest.?
LESTER: Absolutely not.
QUESTION: So, you think that Adidas is a representative of the institution's athletics interest here at KU?
REED: No. I think they're a corporate partner.
QUESTION: So, in, in your analysis, what is different between being a corporate partner and a representative of the institutions athletic interest?
REED: The, I separate it from the, the true, the true meaning of a representative of athletics interests is to, they're donating money for the betterment of the athletic department. And I understand there's, there's additional triggers, but KU is in a corporate partnership with Adidas that both sides make significant amount of money from. It's not Adidas dumping all this money into KU with no outcome on the other side. So to me, Adidas is no different as I said earlier, to Pepsi, to Demarini Bats from baseball, to New Era hats in baseball, to Land Management that cuts the grass. It's no different. It's a corporate partner.
Senior associate athletics director David Reed, who in 2019 received the National Association for Athletics Compliance's ("NAAC") Frank Kara Leadership Award, which is NAAC's premiere award and highest honor
"Kurtis notes that, prior to the
enforcement staff's assertion in this case, at no point during Kurtis' twenty-eight years as a
Division 1 men's basketball coach at six different universities has Kurtis been advised by a
university, a conference, the National Association of Basketball Coaches, or NCAA personnel that
by itself a person's employment by an apparel company that supplies gear to a university's athletics
department classifies that person as a booster of the university. "
Interesting new tidbit learning how Gassnola came into contact with KU
Gassnola became familiar with KU through Joe Dooley- former assistant coach back in 2010-11.
After Dooley left KU, Coach T became the main point of contact.
Kurtis understood Gassnola to be both a AAU coach & a consultant for Adidas whose duties included being a point of contact for KU's men's basketball program and monitoring whether the program was happy with Adidas apparel.
Reading into Coach T's response
Procedurally Improper Importation from the Federal Trial of Gatto and Co-conspirators
Bylaw 19.7.8.3.1 states, in part, that "facts established by a decision or judgment of a court,
agency, accrediting body, or other administrative tribunal of competent jurisdiction, which is not
under appeal [...] may be accepted as true in the infractions process in concluding whether an
institution or individual participating in the previous matter violated NCAA legislation. Evidence
submitted and positions taken in such a matter may be considered in the infractions process."'
Kurtis understands that the verdicts in the federal criminal trial involving Jim Gatto and his
co-conspirators from which the enforcement staff has charted much of its investigative course in
this case have been under appeal since March of 2019. Kurtis understands that Bill Self s ("Self')
response to the Amended Notice of Allegations addresses why the enforcement staff's use of facts
established, evidence submitted, or positions taken in that federal criminal trial as part of the
enforcement staffs investigation in this case violates Bylaw 19.7.8.3.1, irreparably prejudices the
investigation and processing of this case, and renders Allegations 2(a), 2(b), 2c, and 3(d), among
others, improper and appropriate for dismissal. Kurtis adopts Self's analysis in that regard."
You can download them and read them yourselves here
KU has responded. 300 pages worth.
Some interesting things I wasn't fully aware of...
NCAA is trying to pin Larry Brown as a Booster.
That labeling a shoe company employee as a booster of any NCAA membership team would open Pandora's box for everyone.
That the NCAA never provided guidelines or rules for dealing with Shoe Company employees.
That including any information from the NCAA trials (still under appeal) in a NOA is going against the NCAA's own bylaws
More to come.. There's a lot to unpack here
Frank played 5 minutes in the Bucks game 2 nights ago.. no points, 2 boards and an assist. Nice to see his stellar play in the d-league get a call up. Hopefully he gets more burn
17th season.
Yep 500-109 record currently. A terrible 82% win percentage.
236-53 in conference play. A terrible 81% win percentage.
He has never won fewer then 24 games in a season or fewer then 12 conference wins. He's won 30 games 9 times (will be 10 after this year).
Doke Dunk Watch
Doke is 1 up on Obi Toppin with 101 dunks. He's 21 off the record for a season set by himself
He's tied with Tacko Fall for most dunks in a career. That record will fall Saturday
@BShark said in Other Games:
Ksuck most losses in a season in school history. You hate to see it.
At least they can hang another banner! not all is lost
Doke & Dotson are National Semifinalist for the Naismith Trophy
It's incredible his PER is that high considering his relatively high turnover % and FT % being in the dumps. He'd probably be 1st if both of those categories he was average statistically
@Woodrow said in Other Games:
Dayton is legit. They should be a 1 seed.
They should be a #1 seed however all you see in the media is trying to tout Maryland/Kentucky/ACC for that 4th spot at the moment. They are arguably the 3rd best team in the country as well above Gonzaga. What seems to be holding back Dayton is the resume. That's where other teams have the advantage