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GAME DAY
Sep 12, 2020 12:56 PM #1

I'm very thankful that the Big 12 is going forward with the season. Football and college basketball are my number 1 and 2 sources of entertainment.

But, I'm disheartened by the reports that Coach Miles plans to platoon MacVittie and Kendrick. Why oh why can't KU recruit a quality starting QB? Most other programs have quality second and third string QBs who would be major upgrades at KU. I'm looking forward to an improved O-line and a quality running game. If we may add to that a QB who will make the simple passes to one of the several quality and experienced receivers we put on the field, our offense could be improved from last year. If our defense can't successfully shut down the mean chickens, it will be a long year ahead. I'm greatly looking forward to tonight's game and really hope for at least a two TD margin of victory.

Sep 12, 2020 04:55 PM #2

I won't be surprised when CC wins.

Sep 12, 2020 07:44 PM #3

Meanwhile, K-State and ISU both get upset at home. Not a good look for the Big 12 so far.

Sep 12, 2020 07:45 PM #4

@nwhawkfan said in GAME DAY:

Meanwhile, K-State and ISU both get upset at home. Not a good look for the Big 12 so far.

THE SUN BELT HOWEVER

Sep 12, 2020 08:42 PM #5

I’m an unabashed Fun Belt and Ragin Cajuns fan. Tailgating at Cajun Field is incredible.

I think we mostly use one QB. Les said last year at this time we’d play both as well and then MacVittie got placed in witness protection.

Sep 12, 2020 08:50 PM #6

ESPN doesn't show the OU game being televised anywhere. wth? I watched Rattler on QB1 and was hoping to get an early look at him. ESPN2 has South Ala v. Tulane at 6:30. I would sure think OU would draw more viewers.

Sep 12, 2020 08:51 PM #7

@stoptheflop said in GAME DAY:

ESPN doesn't show the OU game being televised anywhere. wth? I watched Rattler on QB1 and was hoping to get an early look at him. ESPN2 has South Ala v. Tulane at 6:30. I would sure think OU would draw more viewers.

I believe it’s PPV

Sep 12, 2020 08:56 PM #8

@BShark did u see the cc locker room celebration smashing the Jayhawk, twice on fox sports 1?🤮😭? Daggers. I hope I live to see CHANGE!

Sep 12, 2020 09:14 PM #9

I miss the days when we could clobber a team like UAB 72 to zip (on Band Day no less).

Sep 12, 2020 09:15 PM #10

@FarmerJayhawk said in GAME DAY:

@stoptheflop said in GAME DAY:

ESPN doesn't show the OU game being televised anywhere. wth? I watched Rattler on QB1 and was hoping to get an early look at him. ESPN2 has South Ala v. Tulane at 6:30. I would sure think OU would draw more viewers.

I believe it’s PPV

It is PPV and it's $55 to watch the game.

@stoptheflop It all has to with how the TV distribution deal were altered because of the MAC and MWC not playing this fall. Those are the leagues along with the Sun Belt that historically get put into the evening slot on ESPN2 because it's not a coveted spot due to other high profile games typically on the major networks.

Sep 13, 2020 12:23 AM #11

Is there anything to gain by OU playing Miss St? Just a track meet. At the half, OU 359 yds. Miss St 37 yds.

Sep 13, 2020 01:40 AM #12

Brandon Mac has a giant mask

Sep 13, 2020 01:57 AM #13

this broadcast going to stick with the blowout baseball game?

Sep 13, 2020 02:04 AM #14

@DanR Of course it is, it's the White Sox!

Sep 13, 2020 02:07 AM #15

@DanR it's on fox sports 2, but hasn't started, so probably be fox sports 1

Sep 13, 2020 02:09 AM #16

Tait said it was gonna start around 9:20. Tired of hearing about the damn piƱata!

Sep 13, 2020 02:11 AM #17

When did they stop having kickoffs when listed? KU supposedly @ 9 but so far 13 minutes of ads and talking heads, same thing earlier for Clemson game.

Sep 13, 2020 02:13 AM #18

I sat next to Les Miles at church once in Baton Rouge.

Sep 13, 2020 02:14 AM #19

It isn't as if they are waiting for the fan to find a seat....

Sep 13, 2020 02:23 AM #20

MacVittie starting.

Sep 13, 2020 02:25 AM #21

Gotta catch passes like that. KU isn't good enough to give away scoring opportunities.

Sep 13, 2020 02:26 AM #22

@mayjay said in GAME DAY:

When did they stop having kickoffs when listed? KU supposedly @ 9 but so far 13 minutes of ads and talking heads, same thing earlier for Clemson game.

This is what happens when previous events run long.

Sep 13, 2020 02:28 AM #23

@stoptheflop said in GAME DAY:

Is there anything to gain by OU playing Miss St? Just a track meet. At the half, OU 359 yds. Miss St 37 yds.

It's a game for OU to make any tweaks they need against an inferior opponent and it's a paycheck game for MoSt.

Sep 13, 2020 02:31 AM #24

Marable looks like he's going to carve up the defense all night again this year.

Sep 13, 2020 02:32 AM #25

DE, you have have containment! Stay home!

Sep 13, 2020 02:33 AM #26

Yeah this is pretty bad. Just running all over the defense.

Sep 13, 2020 02:34 AM #27

KU is going to be lucky to hold anyone under 30 this year.

Sep 13, 2020 02:34 AM #28

I can't believe the offense started with that same BS pass down the line of scrimmage for no gain.

Sep 13, 2020 02:38 AM #29

Two 300 pound tubs of lard in the middle of the D line ain’t working

Sep 13, 2020 02:39 AM #30

@stoptheflop said in GAME DAY:

I can't believe the offense started with that same BS pass down the line of scrimmage for no gain.

It's a staple of every spread offense because it's essentially a running play.

Sep 13, 2020 02:41 AM #31

@stoptheflop That's what that play is designed for, to get 5-6 yards.

Sep 13, 2020 02:41 AM #32

Ouch

Sep 13, 2020 02:42 AM #33

Just give the ball to pooka and pay me 500k to be the offensive coordinator

Sep 13, 2020 02:43 AM #34

Well this game is making it easier to go to bed at my normal time.

Sep 13, 2020 02:43 AM #35

Didn't our guy cause that fumble by running into the ball carrier? Yikes

Sep 13, 2020 02:45 AM #36

@wissox said in GAME DAY:

Didn't our guy cause that fumble by running into the ball carrier? Yikes

That was more on TK not getting up the field, but yes Parchment is the one who caused the fumble.

Sep 13, 2020 02:46 AM #37

This is the same score that the Sox beat the Tigers by tonight!

Sep 13, 2020 02:46 AM #38

Tough start. Everything working on offense for the chickens.

Sep 13, 2020 02:49 AM #39

Lot of time left... argle bargle

Sep 13, 2020 02:50 AM #40

Miles Kendrick in now

Sep 13, 2020 02:51 AM #41

Where the f is pooka? Oh in to block

Sep 13, 2020 02:54 AM #42

@DanR said in GAME DAY:

Where the f is pooka? Oh in to block

Pooka doesn't have the durability to be given the ball every play.

Sep 13, 2020 02:58 AM #43

Macvittie was doing fine; why in the hell change QBs?

Sep 13, 2020 02:59 AM #44

And a horse collar, KU is killing themselves tonight

Sep 13, 2020 03:02 AM #45

Watch the damn football!!!

Sep 13, 2020 03:06 AM #46

Pathetic.

Glad I made a big batch of chili, so the night won't be a total loss.

Sep 13, 2020 03:07 AM #47

Even if fans were allowed, this is probably what the stands would look like at this point anyway.

Sep 13, 2020 03:09 AM #48

Turner Gill quality. Good grief this is the worst of the worst

Sep 13, 2020 03:11 AM #49

Really refs! How do you miss that facemask? Or are they giving Coastal some home cooking?

Sep 13, 2020 03:15 AM #50

Ride the little Cajun

Sep 13, 2020 03:23 AM #51

I don't get too worked up about KU football. But as a graduate, I have the right to complain. This is unreal. How can this just keep happening year after year? Who's to blame? Is the U so content being a blue blood in basketball that they're content to just write off football as a loss every year? I rarely say 'this is embarrassing' because it's not me out there playing but I'm feeling pretty embarrassed right now watching this. Unfortunately we're used to losing to even the Coastal Carolina's of the world, but to be dominated like this? Nah, this crap has to stop.

Sep 13, 2020 03:32 AM #52

@wissox at this point, it’s clear that the ku fb head coaching job is just a cushy retirement package for has beens or 2nd tier up and comers. and they don’t have to recruit or coach or do anything but sell snake oil to a bunch of sucker boosters. Athletes must have figured it out and want no part of it. I feel bad for the four good players each year that occasionally make the team worth watching.

Sep 13, 2020 03:35 AM #53

@DanR I had guarded hope that Les would at least make them respectable. But it's not looking too good, and soon he too, will be feeling the heat I'm afraid.

Sep 13, 2020 03:36 AM #54

Long string of bad athletic directors also to blame. Men’s basketball survives based on sheer inertia and two consecutive hall of famer coaches. Women’s bb also a disgrace with no excuse

Sep 13, 2020 03:37 AM #55

Tonight may have saved me countless hours of late Saturday TV this year.... 'Night, y'all!

Sep 13, 2020 03:42 AM #56

MY GOD I didn't think it was possible for us to get any worse then in the past but Holy shit -we have no Defense pressure/presence - we have NO QB we basically suck plain and simple.

This kind of football is beyond embarrassing - like MayJay said gonna free up some Saturdays for me - -I'll be dam if I'm gonna watch this trash

Sep 13, 2020 03:50 AM #57

This has to be the worst half of ku football I’ve ever seen. I’m not shocked by the qb play, but defensively I’m just at loss for words how bad they look.

Sep 13, 2020 03:55 AM #58

I’ve seen enough of Kendrick. Roll with Tommy Mac. QB swapping never works. I think most knew this was going to be a rough year. Most of the talent are FR/SO and will make mistakes as such.

Sep 13, 2020 03:55 AM #59

all smiles going into half time as Ku bounces a field goal through off the crossbar !

Sep 13, 2020 04:02 AM #60

@DanR said in GAME DAY:

all smiles going into half time as Ku bounces a field goal through off the crossbar !

Tbh we should get 10x the points for that

Sep 13, 2020 04:03 AM #61

Did they bring the piƱata again? Probably beating it at half.

Sep 13, 2020 04:03 AM #62

Can we beat anybody? KSU?

Sep 13, 2020 04:04 AM #63

@DanR could be what's wrong! Happy to just score 3?😰

Sep 13, 2020 04:10 AM #64

I’ll give these fox announcers some credit, they have literally not shut up the entire game

Sep 13, 2020 04:25 AM #65

@Crimsonorblue22 said in GAME DAY:

Can we beat anybody? KSU?

KSU scored 31 so not a chance. Texas Tech is going to be KU's best shot this year at an upset.

Sep 13, 2020 04:30 AM #66

Is anyone freaking tired of shot gun hand offs. Like I don’t get it, we’ve been watching this same spread offense crap for the last 8 years. If your going to spread then pass more. If you want to be a run team then go under center or at least run triple options out of shot gun. But I’m sick of these shotgun hand offs over and over again. Ugh

Sep 13, 2020 04:31 AM #67

And if these are suppose to be rpo’s then pull the damn pall and throw it when they are crashing the line

Sep 13, 2020 04:35 AM #68

🌾🌾🌾🌾🌾

Sep 13, 2020 04:48 AM #69

So why do they go for 2 there? Now we need two TD's instead of a FG and a TD.

Sep 13, 2020 04:49 AM #70

Why did the game start so late?

Sep 13, 2020 04:50 AM #71

Just got here for the second half. why aren't we murdering this team?

Sep 13, 2020 04:51 AM #72

@approxinfinity Turnovers really killed them in the first quarter. Then defensively we just had no way of stopping them.

Sep 13, 2020 04:53 AM #73

@wissox tyty

Sep 13, 2020 04:54 AM #74

@wissox said in GAME DAY:

So why do they go for 2 there? Now we need two TD's instead of a FG and a TD.

??? Safety plus td to tie

Sep 13, 2020 04:55 AM #75

Now we need two safeties and a TD to tie!

Sep 13, 2020 04:56 AM #76

Need one miracle plus a major screwup by coastal at this point, but I’m still watching

Sep 13, 2020 05:01 AM #77

Please reverse it to shut these chumps up

Sep 13, 2020 05:02 AM #78

That would be the miracle we need.

Sep 13, 2020 05:03 AM #79

He was simply pulling the ball back to caress it lovingly before fumbling it

Sep 13, 2020 05:04 AM #80

@wissox said in GAME DAY:

So why do they go for 2 there? Now we need two TD's instead of a FG and a TD.

11 was still a TD and FG.

Sep 13, 2020 05:04 AM #81

Moot point now

Sep 13, 2020 05:06 AM #82

Their qb is a freshman who was ranked as a 2 star recruit. And Ku can’t recruit one decent qb in 10 years

Sep 13, 2020 05:07 AM #83

@Texas-Hawk-10 I figured they were planning to go for the win with a td and easy field goal... never saw anyone try to cut it to nine instead if ten at that point but that’s why he’s the genius mad hatter

Sep 13, 2020 05:07 AM #84

Have all these sun belt teams played a game?

Sep 13, 2020 05:08 AM #85

We do look much better this half

Sep 13, 2020 05:09 AM #86

We held them too, til last Td

Sep 13, 2020 05:10 AM #87

Our bb player

Sep 13, 2020 05:10 AM #88

Bb player makes the stat line

Sep 13, 2020 05:10 AM #89

Catch

Sep 13, 2020 05:12 AM #90

sosinski has hands. Need to throw to him more often

Sep 13, 2020 05:14 AM #91

Will have Harris back next week or whenever we play. The guy that got caught with weed

Sep 13, 2020 05:14 AM #92

Too many guys open on that dud throw

Sep 13, 2020 05:15 AM #93

Love the flags!

Sep 13, 2020 05:15 AM #94

Got the flag woo hoo!

Sep 13, 2020 05:16 AM #95

@DanR said in GAME DAY:

Too many guys open on that dud throw

Got hit on release

Sep 13, 2020 05:16 AM #96

Damn good receivers

Sep 13, 2020 05:17 AM #97

Hey D , turn around

Sep 13, 2020 05:18 AM #98

🌾🌾🌾🌾🌾

Sep 13, 2020 05:18 AM #99

Passing game getting better, should open up for pooka

Sep 13, 2020 05:18 AM #100

Damn it I’m probably going to keep watching these guys

Sep 13, 2020 05:20 AM #101

@DanR I never give up. It's not for lack of effort. Harris will help the D.

Sep 13, 2020 05:21 AM #102

Hey announcer, miles make a bad call on that?

Sep 13, 2020 05:21 AM #103

Well shit!

Sep 13, 2020 05:22 AM #104

Roll the tape

Sep 13, 2020 05:22 AM #105

@DanR guess we can't?

Sep 13, 2020 05:23 AM #106

What the hell

Sep 13, 2020 05:23 AM #107

Boo. What the heck were they looking at? Totally bogus. Sun belt refs.

Sep 13, 2020 05:24 AM #108

Announcers are speechless

Sep 13, 2020 05:25 AM #109

Me too!

Sep 13, 2020 05:25 AM #110

Shouldn’t have been losing to pull off a perfect onside kick

Sep 13, 2020 05:26 AM #111

That's my cousin in yellow shirt on sideline

Sep 13, 2020 05:26 AM #112

Dutch town high is Baton Rouge, not New Orleans!

Sep 13, 2020 05:26 AM #113

@Crimsonorblue22 Text your cousin to get the ref who blew that call!

Sep 13, 2020 05:29 AM #114

Good night, er, good morning, whatever, what a waste of time except chatting Jayhawks is never a waste of time.

Sep 13, 2020 05:33 AM #115

Should have been 35-30 if the refs hadn’t blown that onside kick. Still sucked first half though...

Sep 13, 2020 05:35 AM #116

We off next week?

Sep 13, 2020 05:36 AM #117

Yes

Sep 13, 2020 05:36 AM #118

Freestate kids know how to tackle (Dineen)

Sep 13, 2020 05:40 AM #119

?s=21

Sep 13, 2020 05:42 AM #120

Run it back

Sep 13, 2020 05:42 AM #121

Boo

Sep 13, 2020 01:32 PM #122

I fell asleep after we went down 14-0.

Looks like Kendrick will start going forward? How’d he look?

I think we all knew the D was going to be terrible this year.

I think our Offense gets going by the end of the year. I winder how much work we lost this off-season. I can’t believe we played two QBs. I hate that. Just pick a guy and if he sucks for five games at least you can put the backup in and maybe get a spark.

Sep 14, 2020 07:22 PM #123

Ok so my eyeballs weren't deceiving me despite my consistent imbibing of some of my favorite beverages. MacVittie had a better PFF grade than Kendrick, and it wasn't close. The gap came almost entirely from MacVittie's ability to run the football, which is better than Kendrick's. If it were me, I'd roll with Tommy Mac and see what we have, because I really don't know yet. I think we're pretty sure on Kendrick. The arm just isn't good enough. No zip and ball placement isn't very good. Faster defenses will eat him alive.

Sep 14, 2020 10:54 PM #124

Man, gonna be a long football season in Lawrence, Manhattan and Ames. I confess to having a soft spot for OU when it comes to football, Rattler is the real deal, and the D is stepping up too in Grinch's 2nd season.

Sep 15, 2020 01:43 AM #125

It's that dumb ass BLM Unity patch slowing them down. Play football, not politics.

Sep 15, 2020 02:28 AM #126

@FarmerJayhawk said in GAME DAY:

Ok so my eyeballs weren't deceiving me despite my consistent imbibing of some of my favorite beverages. MacVittie had a better PFF grade than Kendrick, and it wasn't close. The gap came almost entirely from MacVittie's ability to run the football, which is better than Kendrick's. If it were me, I'd roll with Tommy Mac and see what we have, because I really don't know yet. I think we're pretty sure on Kendrick. The arm just isn't good enough. No zip and ball placement isn't very good. Faster defenses will eat him alive.

Dam dude I'm so sorry for you - - - MacVittie hopefully neve see the field again this season - he is JUST NOT P-5 -- plain and simple just ugly.

You don't like Kendrcik -- Great but Macvittie IS SURE THE HELL is not the answer. - going to be a long Season no matter, Roll Daniels - -not gonna lose any eligibility anyways this year- - sure the hell can't be any worse. Chances are he is going to be our QB in upcoming seasons let him work his way through - -BUT NOT Macvittie

Sep 15, 2020 03:10 AM #127

@jayhawkblue73 said in GAME DAY:

@FarmerJayhawk said in GAME DAY:

Ok so my eyeballs weren't deceiving me despite my consistent imbibing of some of my favorite beverages. MacVittie had a better PFF grade than Kendrick, and it wasn't close. The gap came almost entirely from MacVittie's ability to run the football, which is better than Kendrick's. If it were me, I'd roll with Tommy Mac and see what we have, because I really don't know yet. I think we're pretty sure on Kendrick. The arm just isn't good enough. No zip and ball placement isn't very good. Faster defenses will eat him alive.

Dam dude I'm so sorry for you - - - MacVittie hopefully neve see the field again this season - he is JUST NOT P-5 -- plain and simple just ugly.

You don't like Kendrcik -- Great but Macvittie IS SURE THE HELL is not the answer. - going to be a long Season no matter, Roll Daniels - -not gonna lose any eligibility anyways this year- - sure the hell can't be any worse. Chances are he is going to be our QB in upcoming seasons let him work his way through - -BUT NOT Macvittie

Daniels isn’t ready at all. With a shortened fall camp, I’d be surprised if he’s comfortable running anything but the pure basics. Dearmon has 50+ RPO’s he can call at any time.

I think MacVittie gives us the best chance to win this year barring Daniels really picking up the offense. Stronger arm, better runner, the size to throw from the pocket, so a much higher ceiling.

Sep 15, 2020 04:17 PM #128

@FarmerJayhawk said in GAME DAY:

@jayhawkblue73 said in GAME DAY:

@FarmerJayhawk said in GAME DAY:

Ok so my eyeballs weren't deceiving me despite my consistent imbibing of some of my favorite beverages. MacVittie had a better PFF grade than Kendrick, and it wasn't close. The gap came almost entirely from MacVittie's ability to run the football, which is better than Kendrick's. If it were me, I'd roll with Tommy Mac and see what we have, because I really don't know yet. I think we're pretty sure on Kendrick. The arm just isn't good enough. No zip and ball placement isn't very good. Faster defenses will eat him alive.

Dam dude I'm so sorry for you - - - MacVittie hopefully neve see the field again this season - he is JUST NOT P-5 -- plain and simple just ugly.

You don't like Kendrcik -- Great but Macvittie IS SURE THE HELL is not the answer. - going to be a long Season no matter, Roll Daniels - -not gonna lose any eligibility anyways this year- - sure the hell can't be any worse. Chances are he is going to be our QB in upcoming seasons let him work his way through - -BUT NOT Macvittie

Daniels isn’t ready at all. With a shortened fall camp, I’d be surprised if he’s comfortable running anything but the pure basics. Dearmon has 50+ RPO’s he can call at any time.

I think MacVittie gives us the best chance to win this year barring Daniels really picking up the offense. Stronger arm, better runner, the size to throw from the pocket, so a much higher ceiling.

so basically your saying we have ZERO CHANCE of winning anything I gotcha now. - -MacVittie was around all last year , and Nothing, and in his brief outing THIS year look totally like crap. You and I both know this is a lost year with those two options at QB

Again daniels much better runner - like you say much better arm , nice size - let him learn with experience , what we lose at this point ? - -Another Loss ? - - - And ? MacVittie is NOT doing anything for us this year -Ok ya Probably loss with Daniels but he gains the experience yet just a better all around QB - he still has a future at KU MaVittie is his last year play for the future - sorry your not selling me with MacVittie - -Hell I'll take Kendrick over MacVittie any day he is just flat no P-5 QB period - just difference of opinions and no one wil change either more then likely

Sep 15, 2020 05:00 PM #129

@jayhawkblue73 said in GAME DAY:

@FarmerJayhawk said in GAME DAY:

@jayhawkblue73 said in GAME DAY:

@FarmerJayhawk said in GAME DAY:

Ok so my eyeballs weren't deceiving me despite my consistent imbibing of some of my favorite beverages. MacVittie had a better PFF grade than Kendrick, and it wasn't close. The gap came almost entirely from MacVittie's ability to run the football, which is better than Kendrick's. If it were me, I'd roll with Tommy Mac and see what we have, because I really don't know yet. I think we're pretty sure on Kendrick. The arm just isn't good enough. No zip and ball placement isn't very good. Faster defenses will eat him alive.

Dam dude I'm so sorry for you - - - MacVittie hopefully neve see the field again this season - he is JUST NOT P-5 -- plain and simple just ugly.

You don't like Kendrcik -- Great but Macvittie IS SURE THE HELL is not the answer. - going to be a long Season no matter, Roll Daniels - -not gonna lose any eligibility anyways this year- - sure the hell can't be any worse. Chances are he is going to be our QB in upcoming seasons let him work his way through - -BUT NOT Macvittie

Daniels isn’t ready at all. With a shortened fall camp, I’d be surprised if he’s comfortable running anything but the pure basics. Dearmon has 50+ RPO’s he can call at any time.

I think MacVittie gives us the best chance to win this year barring Daniels really picking up the offense. Stronger arm, better runner, the size to throw from the pocket, so a much higher ceiling.

so basically your saying we have ZERO CHANCE of winning anything I gotcha now. - -MacVittie was around all last year , and Nothing, and in his brief outing THIS year look totally like crap. You and I both know this is a lost year with those two options at QB

Again daniels much better runner - like you say much better arm , nice size - let him learn with experience , what we lose at this point ? - -Another Loss ? - - - And ? MacVittie is NOT doing anything for us this year -Ok ya Probably loss with Daniels but he gains the experience yet just a better all around QB - he still has a future at KU MaVittie is his last year play for the future - sorry your not selling me with MacVittie - -Hell I'll take Kendrick over MacVittie any day he is just flat no P-5 QB period - just difference of opinions and no one wil change either more then likely

He wasn't healthy most of last year either. Had a few knee injuries. I thought he looked ok in a few snaps. He never was out there enough to get into any kind of rhythm (and neither was Dearmon tbh). To use a rough analogy, MacVittie looks like Jorge Soler like 2-3 years ago. You can tell he's got most of the tools (power, big arm, etc.) but it just hasn't come together yet. I'm willing to see if it does for MacVittie. He's got the tools (big arm, can run) but it hasn't clicked yet. It may never, but I'm willing to see if it does. Because I know it won't for Kendrick. He's like a light hitting infielder without the arm to play short. You kind of know what you have and he's pretty limited. Shoot, he's not even as athletic as MacVittie.

Daniels is like in AA, and if you bring him right from Springfield to St. Louis he's really going to struggle, possibly to his permanent detriment. He may develop some bad habits or get his confidence wrecked for a team that's not that good anyway. Since we had a limited fall camp, we need to bring him along slowly so he can grasp the offense. It doesn't do him or the team any good to throw him out there with a limited grasp of the offense. Put your guys in a position to succeed, and Daniels just isn't there yet.

Sep 15, 2020 05:58 PM #130

@FarmerJayhawk said in GAME DAY:

@jayhawkblue73 said in GAME DAY:

@FarmerJayhawk said in GAME DAY:

@jayhawkblue73 said in GAME DAY:

@FarmerJayhawk said in GAME DAY:

Ok so my eyeballs weren't deceiving me despite my consistent imbibing of some of my favorite beverages. MacVittie had a better PFF grade than Kendrick, and it wasn't close. The gap came almost entirely from MacVittie's ability to run the football, which is better than Kendrick's. If it were me, I'd roll with Tommy Mac and see what we have, because I really don't know yet. I think we're pretty sure on Kendrick. The arm just isn't good enough. No zip and ball placement isn't very good. Faster defenses will eat him alive.

Dam dude I'm so sorry for you - - - MacVittie hopefully neve see the field again this season - he is JUST NOT P-5 -- plain and simple just ugly.

You don't like Kendrcik -- Great but Macvittie IS SURE THE HELL is not the answer. - going to be a long Season no matter, Roll Daniels - -not gonna lose any eligibility anyways this year- - sure the hell can't be any worse. Chances are he is going to be our QB in upcoming seasons let him work his way through - -BUT NOT Macvittie

Daniels isn’t ready at all. With a shortened fall camp, I’d be surprised if he’s comfortable running anything but the pure basics. Dearmon has 50+ RPO’s he can call at any time.

I think MacVittie gives us the best chance to win this year barring Daniels really picking up the offense. Stronger arm, better runner, the size to throw from the pocket, so a much higher ceiling.

so basically your saying we have ZERO CHANCE of winning anything I gotcha now. - -MacVittie was around all last year , and Nothing, and in his brief outing THIS year look totally like crap. You and I both know this is a lost year with those two options at QB

Again daniels much better runner - like you say much better arm , nice size - let him learn with experience , what we lose at this point ? - -Another Loss ? - - - And ? MacVittie is NOT doing anything for us this year -Ok ya Probably loss with Daniels but he gains the experience yet just a better all around QB - he still has a future at KU MaVittie is his last year play for the future - sorry your not selling me with MacVittie - -Hell I'll take Kendrick over MacVittie any day he is just flat no P-5 QB period - just difference of opinions and no one wil change either more then likely

He wasn't healthy most of last year either. Had a few knee injuries. I thought he looked ok in a few snaps. He never was out there enough to get into any kind of rhythm (and neither was Dearmon tbh). To use a rough analogy, MacVittie looks like Jorge Soler like 2-3 years ago. You can tell he's got most of the tools (power, big arm, etc.) but it just hasn't come together yet. I'm willing to see if it does for MacVittie. He's got the tools (big arm, can run) but it hasn't clicked yet. It may never, but I'm willing to see if it does. Because I know it won't for Kendrick. He's like a light hitting infielder without the arm to play short. You kind of know what you have and he's pretty limited. Shoot, he's not even as athletic as MacVittie.

Daniels is like in AA, and if you bring him right from Springfield to St. Louis he's really going to struggle, possibly to his permanent detriment. He may develop some bad habits or get his confidence wrecked for a team that's not that good anyway. Since we had a limited fall camp, we need to bring him along slowly so he can grasp the offense. It doesn't do him or the team any good to throw him out there with a limited grasp of the offense. Put your guys in a position to succeed, and Daniels just isn't there yet.

possibly - -but again he is not going to get any confifdence standing on the side line when a team is going no where - he needs REPS , to grow. you can't get the same kind of confidence in a practice as live game experience, he is already heaad and shoulders above Macvittie talent wise. He may be lost for awhile but hell MacVittie is lost too so what's the difference. Macvittie looks so indecisive making the wrong reaads running when he should throw - - throw when he should run sorry your not convincing me MaVittie is the answer in any way shape or form.

While MacVittie was running the offense we put up 3 if that - - Kendrick put up 20 - and of Course Macvittie hurt - - in the game - -AGAIN - -again Daniels should at least see Reps, hell if they are going to rotate the two QB'S might as well rotate the 3. Ideally it needs to be the ONE but w don't have that - -hopefully when Easters gets here we have our QB - -from what I see he is probably the best option we have had in quite some time to be realistic talent wise

Sep 15, 2020 06:26 PM #131

@jayhawkblue73 said in GAME DAY:

@FarmerJayhawk said in GAME DAY:

@jayhawkblue73 said in GAME DAY:

@FarmerJayhawk said in GAME DAY:

@jayhawkblue73 said in GAME DAY:

@FarmerJayhawk said in GAME DAY:

Ok so my eyeballs weren't deceiving me despite my consistent imbibing of some of my favorite beverages. MacVittie had a better PFF grade than Kendrick, and it wasn't close. The gap came almost entirely from MacVittie's ability to run the football, which is better than Kendrick's. If it were me, I'd roll with Tommy Mac and see what we have, because I really don't know yet. I think we're pretty sure on Kendrick. The arm just isn't good enough. No zip and ball placement isn't very good. Faster defenses will eat him alive.

Dam dude I'm so sorry for you - - - MacVittie hopefully neve see the field again this season - he is JUST NOT P-5 -- plain and simple just ugly.

You don't like Kendrcik -- Great but Macvittie IS SURE THE HELL is not the answer. - going to be a long Season no matter, Roll Daniels - -not gonna lose any eligibility anyways this year- - sure the hell can't be any worse. Chances are he is going to be our QB in upcoming seasons let him work his way through - -BUT NOT Macvittie

Daniels isn’t ready at all. With a shortened fall camp, I’d be surprised if he’s comfortable running anything but the pure basics. Dearmon has 50+ RPO’s he can call at any time.

I think MacVittie gives us the best chance to win this year barring Daniels really picking up the offense. Stronger arm, better runner, the size to throw from the pocket, so a much higher ceiling.

so basically your saying we have ZERO CHANCE of winning anything I gotcha now. - -MacVittie was around all last year , and Nothing, and in his brief outing THIS year look totally like crap. You and I both know this is a lost year with those two options at QB

Again daniels much better runner - like you say much better arm , nice size - let him learn with experience , what we lose at this point ? - -Another Loss ? - - - And ? MacVittie is NOT doing anything for us this year -Ok ya Probably loss with Daniels but he gains the experience yet just a better all around QB - he still has a future at KU MaVittie is his last year play for the future - sorry your not selling me with MacVittie - -Hell I'll take Kendrick over MacVittie any day he is just flat no P-5 QB period - just difference of opinions and no one wil change either more then likely

He wasn't healthy most of last year either. Had a few knee injuries. I thought he looked ok in a few snaps. He never was out there enough to get into any kind of rhythm (and neither was Dearmon tbh). To use a rough analogy, MacVittie looks like Jorge Soler like 2-3 years ago. You can tell he's got most of the tools (power, big arm, etc.) but it just hasn't come together yet. I'm willing to see if it does for MacVittie. He's got the tools (big arm, can run) but it hasn't clicked yet. It may never, but I'm willing to see if it does. Because I know it won't for Kendrick. He's like a light hitting infielder without the arm to play short. You kind of know what you have and he's pretty limited. Shoot, he's not even as athletic as MacVittie.

Daniels is like in AA, and if you bring him right from Springfield to St. Louis he's really going to struggle, possibly to his permanent detriment. He may develop some bad habits or get his confidence wrecked for a team that's not that good anyway. Since we had a limited fall camp, we need to bring him along slowly so he can grasp the offense. It doesn't do him or the team any good to throw him out there with a limited grasp of the offense. Put your guys in a position to succeed, and Daniels just isn't there yet.

possibly - -but again he is not going to get any confifdence standing on the side line when a team is going no where - he needs REPS , to grow. you can't get the same kind of confidence in a practice as live game experience, he is already heaad and shoulders above Macvittie talent wise. He may be lost for awhile but hell MacVittie is lost too so what's the difference. Macvittie looks so indecisive making the wrong reaads running when he should throw - - throw when he should run sorry your not convincing me MaVittie is the answer in any way shape or form.

While MacVittie was running the offense we put up 3 if that - - Kendrick put up 20 - and of Course Macvittie hurt - - in the game - -AGAIN - -again Daniels should at least see Reps, hell if they are going to rotate the two QB'S might as well rotate the 3. Ideally it needs to be the ONE but w don't have that - -hopefully when Easters gets here we have our QB - -from what I see he is probably the best option we have had in quite some time to be realistic talent wise

Sure he is. You get better at practice and getting reps. Throwing him to the wolves now is a bad, bad idea. It was obvious to me Kendrick got stone cold lucky on a lot of throws and should've probably had 2-3 picks. He missed a wide open Parchment on one throw and threw a ball into double coverage that should've been picked. Lassiter made a nice catch but whew that was close. Ditto one of his TD's on the goal line. Had TK wide open in the flat for a score but threw into coverage to the back pylon. A good defense picks both those. MacVittie's pick wasn't totally on him. Plus he had a better PFF rating and making something from nothing. I want to see more from MacVittie. Not saying he's totally the guy, but Kendrick definitely isn't.

Sep 15, 2020 07:11 PM #132

@stoptheflop It usually takes me 3 or 4 games to get into "Lord have mercy, bring on basketball" mode.

But I'm there right now. That was some pathetic play on Saturday.

Sep 15, 2020 08:00 PM #133

One stat that kind of blew my mind. Spring practices: Coastal, 15; KU, 0.

Sep 15, 2020 08:18 PM #134

@FarmerJayhawk said in GAME DAY:

@jayhawkblue73 said in GAME DAY:

@FarmerJayhawk said in GAME DAY:

@jayhawkblue73 said in GAME DAY:

@FarmerJayhawk said in GAME DAY:

@jayhawkblue73 said in GAME DAY:

@FarmerJayhawk said in GAME DAY:

Ok so my eyeballs weren't deceiving me despite my consistent imbibing of some of my favorite beverages. MacVittie had a better PFF grade than Kendrick, and it wasn't close. The gap came almost entirely from MacVittie's ability to run the football, which is better than Kendrick's. If it were me, I'd roll with Tommy Mac and see what we have, because I really don't know yet. I think we're pretty sure on Kendrick. The arm just isn't good enough. No zip and ball placement isn't very good. Faster defenses will eat him alive.

Dam dude I'm so sorry for you - - - MacVittie hopefully neve see the field again this season - he is JUST NOT P-5 -- plain and simple just ugly.

You don't like Kendrcik -- Great but Macvittie IS SURE THE HELL is not the answer. - going to be a long Season no matter, Roll Daniels - -not gonna lose any eligibility anyways this year- - sure the hell can't be any worse. Chances are he is going to be our QB in upcoming seasons let him work his way through - -BUT NOT Macvittie

Daniels isn’t ready at all. With a shortened fall camp, I’d be surprised if he’s comfortable running anything but the pure basics. Dearmon has 50+ RPO’s he can call at any time.

I think MacVittie gives us the best chance to win this year barring Daniels really picking up the offense. Stronger arm, better runner, the size to throw from the pocket, so a much higher ceiling.

so basically your saying we have ZERO CHANCE of winning anything I gotcha now. - -MacVittie was around all last year , and Nothing, and in his brief outing THIS year look totally like crap. You and I both know this is a lost year with those two options at QB

Again daniels much better runner - like you say much better arm , nice size - let him learn with experience , what we lose at this point ? - -Another Loss ? - - - And ? MacVittie is NOT doing anything for us this year -Ok ya Probably loss with Daniels but he gains the experience yet just a better all around QB - he still has a future at KU MaVittie is his last year play for the future - sorry your not selling me with MacVittie - -Hell I'll take Kendrick over MacVittie any day he is just flat no P-5 QB period - just difference of opinions and no one wil change either more then likely

He wasn't healthy most of last year either. Had a few knee injuries. I thought he looked ok in a few snaps. He never was out there enough to get into any kind of rhythm (and neither was Dearmon tbh). To use a rough analogy, MacVittie looks like Jorge Soler like 2-3 years ago. You can tell he's got most of the tools (power, big arm, etc.) but it just hasn't come together yet. I'm willing to see if it does for MacVittie. He's got the tools (big arm, can run) but it hasn't clicked yet. It may never, but I'm willing to see if it does. Because I know it won't for Kendrick. He's like a light hitting infielder without the arm to play short. You kind of know what you have and he's pretty limited. Shoot, he's not even as athletic as MacVittie.

Daniels is like in AA, and if you bring him right from Springfield to St. Louis he's really going to struggle, possibly to his permanent detriment. He may develop some bad habits or get his confidence wrecked for a team that's not that good anyway. Since we had a limited fall camp, we need to bring him along slowly so he can grasp the offense. It doesn't do him or the team any good to throw him out there with a limited grasp of the offense. Put your guys in a position to succeed, and Daniels just isn't there yet.

possibly - -but again he is not going to get any confifdence standing on the side line when a team is going no where - he needs REPS , to grow. you can't get the same kind of confidence in a practice as live game experience, he is already heaad and shoulders above Macvittie talent wise. He may be lost for awhile but hell MacVittie is lost too so what's the difference. Macvittie looks so indecisive making the wrong reaads running when he should throw - - throw when he should run sorry your not convincing me MaVittie is the answer in any way shape or form.

While MacVittie was running the offense we put up 3 if that - - Kendrick put up 20 - and of Course Macvittie hurt - - in the game - -AGAIN - -again Daniels should at least see Reps, hell if they are going to rotate the two QB'S might as well rotate the 3. Ideally it needs to be the ONE but w don't have that - -hopefully when Easters gets here we have our QB - -from what I see he is probably the best option we have had in quite some time to be realistic talent wise

Sure he is. You get better at practice and getting reps. Throwing him to the wolves now is a bad, bad idea. It was obvious to me Kendrick got stone cold lucky on a lot of throws and should've probably had 2-3 picks. He missed a wide open Parchment on one throw and threw a ball into double coverage that should've been picked. Lassiter made a nice catch but whew that was close. Ditto one of his TD's on the goal line. Had TK wide open in the flat for a score but threw into coverage to the back pylon. A good defense picks both those. MacVittie's pick wasn't totally on him. Plus he had a better PFF rating and making something from nothing. I want to see more from MacVittie. Not saying he's totally the guy, but Kendrick definitely isn't.

Well enough of this non sense - - on another note - isn't Jayden Jones announcement coming up this week ? - - like where we sit with him

Sep 17, 2020 11:10 AM #135

@nuleafjhawk Yep, 0 wins this year seems likely. But, teams improve and in one or two games a team will get some breaks, like CC did last Saturday that put the team in a position for an upset. I'm reminded of the Boston College game last year. Where the hell did that performance come from?

Sep 17, 2020 01:00 PM #136

@stoptheflop Maybe it came from a buttload of BC overconfidence by seeing what their opponent had done previously... ?

Sep 17, 2020 02:16 PM #137

@stoptheflop the guy that transferred

Sep 17, 2020 02:59 PM #138

@stoptheflop I wonder who the next, great "Can't Miss" coach will be?

Sep 17, 2020 05:54 PM #139

@nuleafjhawk said in GAME DAY:

@stoptheflop I wonder who the next, great "Can't Miss" coach will be?

I'm biased, but Billy Napier from the University of Louisiana. #GeauxCajuns

Sep 17, 2020 06:00 PM #140

I think some are getting just a wee bit paranoid - - just a tinsy bit. If you could find ANYBODY - - - -ANYBODY at all that could come in and turn this crap hole around that these previous Coach's turned this program around in the Beginning of just their 2nd year - - - HOLLA

Sep 17, 2020 06:41 PM #141

@jayballer67 said in GAME DAY:

I think some are getting just a wee bit paranoid - - just a tinsy bit. If you could find ANYBODY - - - -ANYBODY at all that could come in and turn this crap hole around that these previous Coach's turned this program around in the Beginning of just their 2nd year - - - HOLLA

I did a count on this the other day, and the middle of the roster (SO & JR) is basically empty. I believe we have something like 23 combined juniors and sophomores on scholarship, compared to 34 freshmen and 22 seniors. 4 are true sophomores, so half the roster is in their first or second year in the program. It's especially the case along the OL. We've got 4 RS seniors, 5 true freshmen, and a bunch of meh in between. Only Bostick and Lott look to be contributors. DB, DL, and WR are in about the same shape. I do wish we could've found a legit OL in the 19 class, but the staff did a great job of finding guys that could contribute immediately and long term given they had zero commits coming in and Beaty burned 10 of their counters on blue shirts.

With the numbers as they are, I think 22 will be the breakout year, the rebuild complete in 23. We'll finally have some real balance in the numbers with all Miles guys, and it looks like the 20-22 groups will be the highest ranked consecutively we've had since Mangino. Beaty put together exactly 1 top 60 class (2018), and Miles already has one. We'll have another one in 21 so long as we keep most of it together. 22 is off to a good start. And the added bonus is they're all HS guys. I don't think this staff has offered a JuCo guy since the mad dash when they first got here.

Sep 17, 2020 07:07 PM #142

@FarmerJayhawk said in GAME DAY:

@jayballer67 said in GAME DAY:

I think some are getting just a wee bit paranoid - - just a tinsy bit. If you could find ANYBODY - - - -ANYBODY at all that could come in and turn this crap hole around that these previous Coach's turned this program around in the Beginning of just their 2nd year - - - HOLLA

I did a count on this the other day, and the middle of the roster (SO & JR) is basically empty. I believe we have something like 23 combined juniors and sophomores on scholarship, compared to 34 freshmen and 22 seniors. 4 are true sophomores, so half the roster is in their first or second year in the program. It's especially the case along the OL. We've got 4 RS seniors, 5 true freshmen, and a bunch of meh in between. Only Bostick and Lott look to be contributors. DB, DL, and WR are in about the same shape. I do wish we could've found a legit OL in the 19 class, but the staff did a great job of finding guys that could contribute immediately and long term given they had zero commits coming in and Beaty burned 10 of their counters on blue shirts.

With the numbers as they are, I think 22 will be the breakout year, the rebuild complete in 23. We'll finally have some real balance in the numbers with all Miles guys, and it looks like the 20-22 groups will be the highest ranked consecutively we've had since Mangino. Beaty put together exactly 1 top 60 class (2018), and Miles already has one. We'll have another one in 21 so long as we keep most of it together. 22 is off to a good start. And the added bonus is they're all HS guys. I don't think this staff has offered a JuCo guy since the mad dash when they first got here.

you are exactly right. I checked those numbers a couple of weeks back - - - really young. With what Les and staff is bringing in - -it's coming , sure it's frustrating to be the laughing stock for some , but laugh while you can because it IS COMING. - -like you said with all the yout these guys are going to be really solid in their Jr, & Sr years. -We are missing a really big element - - a stud QB. - - - I think Easters will be solid , more solid then we have had in some time not a big time star but a big improvement from what we have had.

The big thing is going to be hanging on to our commits & minimum transfers , couldn't agree more really impressed with how Les has been able to get High Schools recruits and none of this Juco BS. - -we still gonna take lumps for awhile more just got to keep faith and not start the BS about next Coach - you keep playing that game and you will NEVER get anywhere. - no continuity how the hell you EVER get any kind of talent if your not even sure if the Coach going to be here more then 2-3 years , you start from scratch EVERY time you do that - that gets you exactly no where I still am fully confident in Les and this staff 100 %

Sep 19, 2020 03:49 PM #143

@FarmerJayhawk Agree. While Mac is in his final year of eligibilty we have to play for this season, not next. Look, we're not going to win many games this year, but winning two or three is better than none.

Sep 19, 2020 04:03 PM #144

@Marco said in GAME DAY:

@FarmerJayhawk Agree. While Mac is in his final year of eligibilty we have to play for this season, not next. Look, we're not going to win many games this year, but winning two or three is better than none.

you put him there a dn there goes for sure those 2-3 wins you thought we might have a shot at. You BETTER be looking towards the future if your not then I'm sorry cause the present with MacVittie oh Lord - THAT is NOT a P-5 QB or not even close no wonder he went Juco route.

Had tjhis Conversation with other friends they also said you need to play Daniels this season is gone anyways , Daniels much better then MacVittie already , he needs experience although he has about as much as MacVittie as P-5. Yet Daniels IS the future with him and Easters I think our QB will be much better.

Daniels needs reps - - game reps you have NOTHING to lose at this point , Daniels loses no eligibility will STILL be a Freshman next year but yet he could have a full year of experience under his belt at the same time. - -Be like a Red shirt freshman only with a year of game experience , he is going to be here the four years. If your looking for MacVittie to be that Savior even 2-3 games thats just another wasted year. - -Sure Daniels isn't going to get you probably anymore then that either but he gets GAME TIME REPS and will be here for 4 more years - -MacVittie this is it - - that makes NO SENSE

Sep 19, 2020 05:13 PM #145

@jayballer67 I hear what you're saying. To be honest, getting to even 2 wins this year would be a success. Sucks to say, but true.

Sep 19, 2020 05:48 PM #146

@Marco said in GAME DAY:

@FarmerJayhawk Agree. While Mac is in his final year of eligibilty we have to play for this season, not next. Look, we're not going to win many games this year, but winning two or three is better than none.

He can come back next year if he wants as well. No idea if he will or not.

@jayballer67 he went JuCo because of a coaching change at Pitt (from Canada to Watson).

Sep 20, 2020 12:21 PM #147

@FarmerJayhawk said in GAME DAY:

@Marco said in GAME DAY:

@FarmerJayhawk Agree. While Mac is in his final year of eligibilty we have to play for this season, not next. Look, we're not going to win many games this year, but winning two or three is better than none.

He can come back next year if he wants as well. No idea if he will or not.

@jayballer67 he went JuCo because of a coaching change at Pitt (from Canada to Watson).

hmmmm, no P-5 offers ,other then us in Juco? - Then when you get here you can't win the starting spot until NOW not a P-5 caliber QB no matter how you twist it around

Sep 20, 2020 06:27 PM #148

@jayballer67 said in GAME DAY:

@FarmerJayhawk said in GAME DAY:

@Marco said in GAME DAY:

@FarmerJayhawk Agree. While Mac is in his final year of eligibilty we have to play for this season, not next. Look, we're not going to win many games this year, but winning two or three is better than none.

He can come back next year if he wants as well. No idea if he will or not.

@jayballer67 he went JuCo because of a coaching change at Pitt (from Canada to Watson).

hmmmm, no P-5 offers ,other then us in Juco? - Then when you get here you can't win the starting spot until NOW not a P-5 caliber QB no matter how you twist it around

Which means Daniels, Kendrick, and MacVittie have all the same number of P5 offers sans Kansas. Play the QB that gives us the best chance to win this year, which to me it’s clearly MacVittie.

Sep 21, 2020 01:30 AM #149

@FarmerJayhawk said in GAME DAY:

@jayballer67 said in GAME DAY:

@FarmerJayhawk said in GAME DAY:

@Marco said in GAME DAY:

@FarmerJayhawk Agree. While Mac is in his final year of eligibilty we have to play for this season, not next. Look, we're not going to win many games this year, but winning two or three is better than none.

He can come back next year if he wants as well. No idea if he will or not.

@jayballer67 he went JuCo because of a coaching change at Pitt (from Canada to Watson).

hmmmm, no P-5 offers ,other then us in Juco? - Then when you get here you can't win the starting spot until NOW not a P-5 caliber QB no matter how you twist it around

Which means Daniels, Kendrick, and MacVittie have all the same number of P5 offers sans Kansas. Play the QB that gives us the best chance to win this year, which to me it’s clearly MacVittie.

You me and e andevenMother Teresa know where this is headed this year, You take the QB that will be returning and be here FOUR YEARS not one , not even close for a decision to be made - - one more time MacVittie gives you absolutely NO CHANCE ,

Sep 21, 2020 03:54 AM #150

@jayballer67 said in GAME DAY:

@FarmerJayhawk said in GAME DAY:

@jayballer67 said in GAME DAY:

@FarmerJayhawk said in GAME DAY:

@Marco said in GAME DAY:

@FarmerJayhawk Agree. While Mac is in his final year of eligibilty we have to play for this season, not next. Look, we're not going to win many games this year, but winning two or three is better than none.

He can come back next year if he wants as well. No idea if he will or not.

@jayballer67 he went JuCo because of a coaching change at Pitt (from Canada to Watson).

hmmmm, no P-5 offers ,other then us in Juco? - Then when you get here you can't win the starting spot until NOW not a P-5 caliber QB no matter how you twist it around

Which means Daniels, Kendrick, and MacVittie have all the same number of P5 offers sans Kansas. Play the QB that gives us the best chance to win this year, which to me it’s clearly MacVittie.

You me and e andevenMother Teresa know where this is headed this year, You take the QB that will be returning and be here FOUR YEARS not one , not even close for a decision to be made - - one more time MacVittie gives you absolutely NO CHANCE ,

Again, everyone that says we have nothing to lose is just wrong. This isn’t the NFL where tanking gets you a high pick. If anything, it’s the opposite in college. Play who gives you the best chance each week, otherwise it’s both a disservice to seniors and risks losing some really good 21 guys. I might even be with you if Daniels was an early enrollee and we got a full fall camp. But we got neither so we have to play the guy that at least has the playbook down. We don’t want Daniels to get David Carr’d out there.

Sep 21, 2020 03:58 AM #151

@jayballer67 If Miles or Dearmon thought Daniels was ready, he'd be starting. Throwing someone out there at QB just because they're a freshman doesn't mean their development suddenly speeds up. If Daniels gets fed to the wolves before he's ready, he becomes damaged goods and sets KU back even further in trying to find their QB of the future.

The only offer Daniels had that gives me hope he could play later this season is the Army offer because that tells me there's some intangibles there that can't be taught. Jalon Daniels likely still needs to learn the playbook and get reps which he didn't get a lot of because of Covid cancelling so much practice this summer.

Quite frankly, KU's future at QB is much more tied to Ben Easters and his development than it is to any of the QB's currently on the roster because none of them would be starting at any other P5 school.

Sep 21, 2020 05:20 PM #152

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in GAME DAY:

@jayballer67 If Miles or Dearmon thought Daniels was ready, he'd be starting. Throwing someone out there at QB just because they're a freshman doesn't mean their development suddenly speeds up. If Daniels gets fed to the wolves before he's ready, he becomes damaged goods and sets KU back even further in trying to find their QB of the future.

The only offer Daniels had that gives me hope he could play later this season is the Army offer because that tells me there's some intangibles there that can't be taught. Jalon Daniels likely still needs to learn the playbook and get reps which he didn't get a lot of because of Covid cancelling so much practice this summer.

Quite frankly, KU's future at QB is much more tied to Ben Easters and his development than it is to any of the QB's currently on the roster because none of them would be starting at any other P5 school.

I'll agree with you on this much. Easters is the QB for us unless they find someone else , pull the rabbit out of the hat. Agree with you about that.

As far as Daniels needing reps ? - -Dam straight he needs reps and he sure the hell isn't getting them standing on the side lines. If MacVittie is supp
ose to be the answer then there would of been no QB competition - -they would of said here is the car , NOW DRIVE IT.

Tell you what though you go ahead and trot MacVittie out there and let him show me how ready he is and how many W's he deliveries. - -Your QB is suppose to be a leader of the team on the field - -he shows me nothing for leadership - -what he looks like is lost , if he is the Savior he would of been starting LSAT YEAR and then return with that experienced Senior season - -he is NO p-5 QB, you tell me he is and I'll tell you ya and I'm the POPE.

you sure can't tell what Daniels has by standing on the side lines. - - You start MaVittie then you tell me who we beat with him at the QB ? - - You say Baylor is our best bet - - I would be willing to beat we still get a beat down even by them I'm guessing somewhere around 40-14 MAYBE?

You say Daniels feeding to the wolves being damaged goods - - and I call BS with this kid , Daniels stronger arm , Daniels better footwork , quicker -MacVittie is lost , slow

Sep 21, 2020 05:26 PM #153

@FarmerJayhawk said in GAME DAY:

@jayballer67 said in GAME DAY:

@FarmerJayhawk said in GAME DAY:

@jayballer67 said in GAME DAY:

@FarmerJayhawk said in GAME DAY:

@Marco said in GAME DAY:

@FarmerJayhawk Agree. While Mac is in his final year of eligibilty we have to play for this season, not next. Look, we're not going to win many games this year, but winning two or three is better than none.

He can come back next year if he wants as well. No idea if he will or not.

@jayballer67 he went JuCo because of a coaching change at Pitt (from Canada to Watson).

hmmmm, no P-5 offers ,other then us in Juco? - Then when you get here you can't win the starting spot until NOW not a P-5 caliber QB no matter how you twist it around

Which means Daniels, Kendrick, and MacVittie have all the same number of P5 offers sans Kansas. Play the QB that gives us the best chance to win this year, which to me it’s clearly MacVittie.

You me and e andevenMother Teresa know where this is headed this year, You take the QB that will be returning and be here FOUR YEARS not one , not even close for a decision to be made - - one more time MacVittie gives you absolutely NO CHANCE ,

Again, everyone that says we have nothing to lose is just wrong. This isn’t the NFL where tanking gets you a high pick. If anything, it’s the opposite in college. Play who gives you the best chance each week, otherwise it’s both a disservice to seniors and risks losing some really good 21 guys. I might even be with you if Daniels was an early enrollee and we got a full fall camp. But we got neither so we have to play the guy that at least has the playbook down. We don’t want Daniels to get David Carr’d out there.

Again your wrong. - if your telling me MacVittie gives us the best chance to win - -then GOD have mercy on us - -Hell Kendricks gives us a better chance then MacVittie - - -more of a dual , doesn't have feet stuck in concrete -sorry tha'ts just insane to say MacVittie gives us the best chance to win.

If he truly gave us the best chance we wouldn't be in the position or debate of who is going to be the starting QB from week to week , if he is that much better there would be no contest , he would of locked it up from the get go plain and simple, and then the short time he was out even against CC he couldn't move the ball - -just a waste of our receiving talent that w do have , with him out there

Sep 22, 2020 01:09 AM #154

@jayballer67 "You say Daniels feeding to the wolves being damaged goods - - and I call BS with this kid , Daniels stronger arm , Daniels better footwork , quicker -MacVittie is lost , slow"

None of those attributes means a thing if you can't make the reads in an RPO based offense and I'm guessing Daniels reads are still way too slow. Since none of those three appear to be the future at QB, play the one with the most in game experience at the college level which is MacVittie.

Sep 22, 2020 02:49 PM #155

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in GAME DAY:

@jayballer67 "You say Daniels feeding to the wolves being damaged goods - - and I call BS with this kid , Daniels stronger arm , Daniels better footwork , quicker -MacVittie is lost , slow"

None of those attributes means a thing if you can't make the reads in an RPO based offense and I'm guessing Daniels reads are still way too slow. Since none of those three appear to be the future at QB, play the one with the most in game experience at the college level which is MacVittie.

ok you stick with that- -guarantee IF we get ONE win with him ONE it will be a miracle. Just goes to show that if he is going to be your QB - -then yes you TRULY do suck

Sep 22, 2020 10:20 PM #156

@jayballer67 Jalon Daniels is not the savior of Kansas football in 2020. If he was good enough to be playing now, Miles and Dearmon would be playing him now instead of having him as the 3rd string option.

We all know MacVittie and Kendrick are massively flawed QB's and nobody here is trying to say either one are good QB's. It should tell you something when a national title winning head coach and one of best younger offensive minds in the game agree on Daniels not being better than MacVittie or Kendrick yet.

Sep 23, 2020 02:50 AM #157

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in GAME DAY:

@jayballer67 Jalon Daniels is not the savior of Kansas football in 2020. If he was good enough to be playing now, Miles and Dearmon would be playing him now instead of having him as the 3rd string option.

We all know MacVittie and Kendrick are massively flawed QB's and nobody here is trying to say either one are good QB's. It should tell you something when a national title winning head coach and one of best younger offensive minds in the game agree on Daniels not being better than MacVittie or Kendrick yet.

No Prblem buddy , but your NOT convincing me MacVittie should be the starter. - -Just read an article from the LJW giving stats from Saturday game - - - Hell Kendrick did al lot better throwing the ball the MacVittie did moved the team for 2 touchdowns - - MacVittie like 34 yards and NOTHING - -

Les said in his conference meeting he still looking at playing both and even mentioned Daniels also. But it's ok you go ahead and ride him til the cows come home. - - - Me I'll take anybody BUT MacVittie - - terirble player , you take him and you can take it to the bank you will have a big fat zero in the W side. - - Your not changing my opinion and obviously I'm not changing yours , so this is pointless to just keep going back and forth. - I know I've got better things to do ,MacVittie never has been nor will he ever will be worth being a starting QB at a P-5 school - -but you have a good night anyways - -moving on

Sep 23, 2020 02:00 PM #158

ESPN stats for the CC game shows the QB ratings as: Kendrick 27.6, MacVittie 33.9 and Daniels 18.8. Since Kendrick had the most snaps against CC, I suggest starting him and letting him play the entire first half, no matter what mistakes he makes. Then make adjustments at half time.

Sep 23, 2020 02:12 PM #159

@stoptheflop said in GAME DAY:

ESPN stats for the CC game shows the QB ratings as: Kendrick 27.6, MacVittie 33.9 and Daniels 18.8. Since Kendrick had the most snaps against CC, I suggest starting him and letting him play the entire first half, no matter what mistakes he makes. Then make adjustments at half time.

Kendrick only had the most snaps because MacVittie got hurt early in the second half, not because of play or production. If MacVittie is healthy, that's who should get the majority of the snaps against Baylor.

Sep 24, 2020 07:22 PM #160

Scott over on the phog has a great breakdown of MacVittie. Really cemented in my brain that he deserves the full game Saturday.

Sep 24, 2020 09:20 PM #161

This game has diaster written all over it - -could get ugly reaaaaaaaaaaal easy. - -Looks like quite a few feel the same reading off the phog - most predicting scores of like 35 point or more mugging. - -I can't disagree I'm looking at like 48-13 some where in there - -we don't have a QB that can move the team to score near that , could turn into a track meet

Sep 25, 2020 11:18 AM #162

And the plot thickens. There is some talk that Daniels very well might be getting a lot of reps Saturday , we will see. Have discovered that I'm not the only one who thinks that would be a good thing. A lot of others feeling the same way. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Sep 25, 2020 12:47 PM #163

Does anyone else get the impression that Coach Miles is disconnected and unenthusiastic about this team? His tv interview before the CC game was embarrassing. He couldn't think of much to say and seldom looked at the camera. While I don't like over-enthusiastic statements and hyperbole, it would be nice for a head coach to talk up his team with some confidence. The interview reminded me of Charlie Weis and his downbeat, ready to slit his wrists interviews with the media.

Sep 25, 2020 02:56 PM #164

@stoptheflop said in GAME DAY:

Does anyone else get the impression that Coach Miles is disconnected and unenthusiastic about this team? His tv interview before the CC game was embarrassing. He couldn't think of much to say and seldom looked at the camera. While I don't like over-enthusiastic statements and hyperbole, it would be nice for a head coach to talk up his team with some confidence. The interview reminded me of Charlie Weis and his downbeat, ready to slit his wrists interviews with the media.

Not especially. He always talks up guys on Hawk Talk and his pressers.

Sep 25, 2020 04:22 PM #165

@stoptheflop said in GAME DAY:

Does anyone else get the impression that Coach Miles is disconnected and unenthusiastic about this team? His tv interview before the CC game was embarrassing. He couldn't think of much to say and seldom looked at the camera. While I don't like over-enthusiastic statements and hyperbole, it would be nice for a head coach to talk up his team with some confidence. The interview reminded me of Charlie Weis and his downbeat, ready to slit his wrists interviews with the media.

Coach Miles is horrible with interviews , just dosn't do well. - -Some have brought up even from interviews that maybe something with him health wise - - just so dry. - - BUT having watching him in that series off what was it - - ESPN plus , if you watched him sometimes with the players and how he connected and enter mingled with them - - you could see he has a really good connection with them - -he has some fire in him for sure - -just bad with interviews

Sep 26, 2020 01:40 AM #166

@stoptheflop said in GAME DAY:

Does anyone else get the impression that Coach Miles is disconnected and unenthusiastic about this team? His tv interview before the CC game was embarrassing. He couldn't think of much to say and seldom looked at the camera. While I don't like over-enthusiastic statements and hyperbole, it would be nice for a head coach to talk up his team with some confidence. The interview reminded me of Charlie Weis and his downbeat, ready to slit his wrists interviews with the media.

Les has never been a good interview going back to OSU. It's just not his strength.

Sep 26, 2020 02:22 AM #167

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in GAME DAY:

@stoptheflop said in GAME DAY:

Does anyone else get the impression that Coach Miles is disconnected and unenthusiastic about this team? His tv interview before the CC game was embarrassing. He couldn't think of much to say and seldom looked at the camera. While I don't like over-enthusiastic statements and hyperbole, it would be nice for a head coach to talk up his team with some confidence. The interview reminded me of Charlie Weis and his downbeat, ready to slit his wrists interviews with the media.

Les has never been a good interview going back to OSU. It's just not his strength.

That's for sure , Interviews are just not for him. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Sep 26, 2020 03:59 AM #168

Saw the other day Coach reporting NO COVID 19 cases - - - that's great news. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY