We good.
@BShark said in St Joes Game Thread:
We good.
What you think the chances are Self comes out and really puts emphasis on getting David Involved to just let him know - -we need ya big fella
Hopefully Thompson starts today.
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in St Joes Game Thread:
Hopefully Thompson starts today.
He is starting over Jalen.
After yesterday's piss poor performance, big Dave is going to come out so aggressive today; however, since he has the coordination of a 3 year old, he'll be in foul trouble early and maybe get 7 minutes in the first half. And foul out in 15 minutes overall. He's a trainwreck. I'd rather have mitch start the 5
Mitch is terrible.
Hmmm thats interesting. The game that is being played before us on FX 1 isn't bring showed on Television because of Health Conditions -- they are playing the game but not televising - -hmmm
Mitch is worse though. The only thing he is better at is help side blocking (hard to do as the only big) and maybe straight up post defense but both are terrible at it. Hopefully some of the guys we are bringing in next year can improve it.
The big issue with Mitch is he isn't a threat to do much of anything offensively. Dave at least does have a few things he does well, but Gonzaga scouted him well and took it away. Dave will have to get better at passing out as well as not having the ball swiped from him.
@bmensch1 said in St Joes Game Thread:
After yesterday's piss poor performance, big Dave is going to come out so aggressive today; however, since he has the coordination of a 3 year old, he'll be in foul trouble early and maybe get 7 minutes in the first half. And foul out in 15 minutes overall. He's a trainwreck. I'd rather have mitch start the 5
I dont agree with playing Mitch out there but I get the frustration with Dave. Just for some perspective we were pretty hard on Devon and others after game 1 last year against Duke even with the exhibition games and he turned it around quickly after that. Its going to take some time for Dave to settle down but I'm certainly not expecting anything drastic in his play. I happen to think he's just limited defensively
Jalen was our best 5 against Gonzaga somehow.
This match-up today is a lot more favorable for Dave. He will have good and bad games, hopefully improving as he plays.
Dave needs to get a lot better at passing out the post. When he gets the deep ball, he's looking at his feet. He can't see the double- or triple-team coming, so he doesn't pass out and loses the ball a lot when he puts it on the floor. He needs to stop looking at his feet.
@BeddieKU23 Dave is a smidge above Dedric defensively imo, heinous, lol.
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in St Joes Game Thread:
Dave needs to get a lot better at passing out the post. When he gets the deep ball, he's looking at his feet. He can't see the double- or triple-team coming, so he doesn't pass out and loses the ball a lot when he puts it on the floor. He needs to stop looking at his feet.
He's a black hole in the post. Doke was like that early in his career too. Even when Dave passed it out, it wasn't pretty. Hope he improves
Shot blocking and defensive rotations is what mitch brings on the defensive side. Knowing the plays and not setting moving screens on offense is what he brings there. Dave is a turnover waiting to happen or a spin over his left shoulder to brick a fade away jumper
Love that take from Bryce even if he missed. Stay aggressive.
Ochai wtf
Plays like that from ochai drive me mad
Shooting at a brick cylinder from 2 feet dave?
We are fortunate to have Marcus.
WOW BRAUN REBOUND
Great first effort on D but you gotta rebound...
ATTABOY CB
Jesus defense
Well then, NBA threes I see
No effort at all
I see they run the CHUCK offense.
Dave. Have you ever dunked the ball?
@BeddieKU23 said in St Joes Game Thread:
Dave. Have you ever dunked the ball?
Thought he would score there...idk why...
I wish mccormick could learn how to dunk
Agbaji stroke much improved
The defense is so bad. Like historical bad
What was the call there?
This game is stupid tbh
UPS delivers
This is the worst defense I've ever seen
Well we can't get much worse I guess.
The rebounding is sooooo bad.
@Bosthawk said in St Joes Game Thread:
I wish mccormick could learn how to dunk
Not his game unfortunately
Basically just no effort to rebound.
Wilson has zero idea what he's doing on defense. St Joe's is shooting lights out right now. I'm not worried about this game...but this defense is the worst group of kids I've ever seen in a KU uniform
Biggus Davus looks to me like a more athletic Landon Lucas. He still has a bull in a China shop playing style
Dave did have a successful pass out the post for an CB layup. Baby step i guess
Who is Big Hair
Agbaji. Never handle the ball again
Late to the game, delighted with Jaylen insertion.
Keep playing Wilson. Maybe try Tristan too.
Oof Ochai
SJU lost to Auburn, which just fell to the Zags by 23. Shouldn't we be able to handle these guys???
@BeddieKU23 said in St Joes Game Thread:
Agbaji. Never handle the ball again
I would be okay with this.
We've got to take care of those TOs..
That's TGF? My first look at him.
@DCHawker said in St Joes Game Thread:
SJU lost to Auburn, which just fell to the Zags by 23. Shouldn't we be able to handle these guys???
They are bad, but KU effort has been poor so far.
Mitch sit
Lol we are so bad this year
Oh boy
3 missed layups
This team has a ways to go.
Lay-up practice on Monday.
Seem seem to remember Garrett slipping a few times last year… He always has already slipped and fell in the last two games.
The reality is this isn't a good team.
These floors are ice
I like how Jaylen handles ball, though. He's very active. He can be a play maker, too.
A dunk!!!!
First dunk!
OK TGF might have his wits about him
Beautiful pass by wilson
Tyon is a gamer, very athletic. But will have lapses.
If you dunk the ball, you don't have to attempt a lay-up. Points to brain
Rock Chalk. It's early on in HCBS figuring out how to build the best 5.
Dumb foul by bryce. Freshman mistake
I'm happy that Perry is back on the team (Wilson)
Grant foster with the first dunk of the year. Never would have guessed that...nor did I think it would be game 2 before I saw the first one
@RockChalkinTexas said in St Joes Game Thread:
Rock Chalk. It's early on in HCBS figuring out how to build the best 5.
And, early indications are it will be small ball - 5 guards/wings...
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in St Joes Game Thread:
If you dunk the ball, you don't have to attempt a lay-up. Points to brain
Excited to have this guy three years.
@BShark said in St Joes Game Thread:
Tyon is a gamer, very athletic. But will have lapses.
He had a chance at a layup on a designed play for him on a back screen. He didn't fight to get position for the pass. Definitely has his lapses
@BeddieKU23 said in St Joes Game Thread:
@BShark said in St Joes Game Thread:
Tyon is a gamer, very athletic. But will have lapses.
He had a chance at a layup on a designed play for him on a back screen. He didn't fight to get position for the pass. Definitely has his lapses
Was benched in the Zags game after a couple really bad plays on D. If he puts it all together he is a pro.
@bmensch1 said in St Joes Game Thread:
Grant foster with the first dunk of the year. Never would have guessed that...nor did I think it would be game 2 before I saw the first one
Self mentioned this is a tall team but not his most athletic group
How much did Bruce Pearl lose by?
@BShark said in St Joes Game Thread:
@BeddieKU23 said in St Joes Game Thread:
@BShark said in St Joes Game Thread:
Tyon is a gamer, very athletic. But will have lapses.
He had a chance at a layup on a designed play for him on a back screen. He didn't fight to get position for the pass. Definitely has his lapses
Was benched in the Zags game after a couple really bad plays on D. If he puts it all together he is a pro.
Hopefully he sticks around 3 years to realize that. He is far from a pro currently
@Bosthawk said in St Joes Game Thread:
@BShark
Who is that!
Sydney Curry, committed yesterday. 6'8'' 260 pounds and hates rims.
Looks like St Joe likes to shoot 3s.
Wow pathetic defense
@msanchez said in St Joes Game Thread:
Looks like St Joe likes to shoot 3s.
Basically their entire offense.
Too many unforced TOs.
No hand in the face by enaruna. Sit down
We just do not get back and set on defense...
Good lord, okay I'm worried.
@DCHawker said in St Joes Game Thread:
We just do not get back and set on defense...
Lack of effort on all 5 no matter who enters
Even Marcus missing lay-ups.
How did we miss so many layups and still shoot 50% in game 1
Yikes..
Wow, this is some fugly s***......
@approxinfinity 45% from 3s.
This is really bad
I uhhhhh....think this season should be canceled for covid. This is hard to warch
We don’t have a PG or a starting caliber C.
The roster is talented, just poorly constructed
We don't have a #BIFM
We have braun and garrett....thats it
8 - 1 on TOs...
There is no reason to play Dave
I think we will figure out ball handling duties. I like Braun and Agbaji as secondary and tertiary
Braun is the only player I’m not disappointed in so far
We have no identity on offense or defense. Everyone is looking at someone else and expecting them to do something.
Wow, CB is good today.
handling from top to bottom is a strength of the team. Just no exceptional handler.
Samwise trying to kill Dave there.
Switching Dave to their best player is Bad bad coaching
2 nice shots from Braun just closed the gap but the play overall leaves a lot to be desired
@Kcmatt7 said in St Joes Game Thread:
The roster is talented, just poorly constructed
Agree. Really missing Dot's ability to control the pace/flow.
Young guns meed to step up!!
I like that entry passing to David. I just wished he didn't stop.
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in St Joes Game Thread:
We have no identity on offense or defense. Everyone is looking at someone else and expecting them to do something.
Pretty much, that doesn't win games. Gotta figure out how to play together.
Self is probably telling garrett right now he needs to drive
CB is doing everything today: steal, 3s, block.
Garrett needs to take more control for sure
I wouldn't mind seeing Harris play today. At least he can handle the ball and play defense supposedly.
@approxinfinity said in St Joes Game Thread:
@BShark can't thumb this up enough.
Unfortunately, I'm not sure this is addressed next year unless Harris is suddenly ready.
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in St Joes Game Thread:
I wouldn't mind seeing Harris play today. At least he can handle the ball and play defense supposedly.
He's small and can't shoot, but I'd try anything at this point.
If we could teach mccormick how to draw fouls hes decent at the foul line
Hey FT shooting won't suck this year
@Bosthawk said in St Joes Game Thread:
If we could teach mccormick how to draw fouls hes decent at the foul line
The one time his jumper looks good. I like his hook shot in the flow of the game tbh, issues come when he brings the ball down.
@approxinfinity said in St Joes Game Thread:
Hey FT shooting won't suck this year
Really - it did yesterday...
You can get st joe leading at half 6-1 rn
Garrett on the pine instead
I liked 2-1. 6-1 to win
Good grief refs call a foul on the guy mugging bryce
Nice to see some boxing out !
Meed to take advantage of the bonus
@DCHawker said in St Joes Game Thread:
@approxinfinity said in St Joes Game Thread:
Hey FT shooting won't suck this year
Really - it did yesterday...
Actually didn't suck - 67% - below 70%, which is almost always the case for KU...
Dave should seek for more contacts. He's a good FT shooter.
We need a nice run here
I'm not sure how to describe Dave's defense... Boisterous?
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in St Joes Game Thread:
I'm not sure how to describe Dave's defense... Boisterous?
Spastic????
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in St Joes Game Thread:
I'm not sure how to describe Dave's defense... Boisterous?
Scary
Better effort
Bryce knows how to kiss the glass.
@approxinfinity used to call Dave the wild giant his freshman year
Where's that Top10- Agbaji's dunk?
@BeddieKU23 said in St Joes Game Thread:
Better effort
Weird how this works, taking a lead while playing with more effort.
Dave high point the ball fella
This roster is karma for us criticizing Bill's commitment to the hi lo.
Braun and Bryce making olays
I think we dialed it back a half a notch and found a good pace
@approxinfinity LOL
Biggus Davus jumped too soon on the lob. He needs to calm down
Agbaji's stroke is really improved. Just looks like a shooter.
Big time play by bryce to set up that 3. Much better from him in the past few minutes
@Kcmatt7 said in St Joes Game Thread:
Braun and Bryce making olays
Like I said I'm not sure how it can happen but...if this core stays together and gets a PG next year...watch out.
I'd like to see Big Dave take a break dancing class.
Sh!!t I was already jumping out of my chair - too strong of a lob pass from CB..
@approxinfinity said in St Joes Game Thread:
This roster is karma for us criticizing Bill's commitment to the hi lo.
I love the hi-lo --- well, as long as you have someone capable of playing the hi and the lo....
@approxinfinity said in St Joes Game Thread:
I'd like to see Big Dave take a break dancing class.
I was just thinking his coordination might benefit from boxing or dancing lessons, that's funny.
Haven't seen any out of time out feeds yet
KU has been okay while not having any idea how to play together. Eventually they will get better playing together, communicating properly, learning each others quirks.
If Lightfoot just had a little more hops
So, Sydney will play for KU for 2021, right? It's just another year away.
Lightfoot is not an option
Bad D from mitch.
@msanchez said in St Joes Game Thread:
So, Sydney will play for KU for 2021, right? It's just another year away.
Yeah he's a 21 guy most likely
Mitch doesn't look like he grew any muscle strength
@msanchez said in St Joes Game Thread:
So, Sydney will play for KU for 2021, right? It's just another year away.
Yep. Should be a solid bench option right away.
We really missed an opportunity to send Big Jay with the team and win the mascot war.
TGF sure has a funky shot
Jeez tyon layup
Foul
@BeddieKU23 yeah that's super rough. I was getting comfy with his play until he shot a 3. It's like a Fran Drescher laugh on a first date.
Mitch getting abused.
Enaruna's defense is offensive
@BeddieKU23 Yeah. I love Mitch, but it's a bad spot that he is the 2nd big. Of course, Bill realized this, and signed 3 bigs...
FOUL
UT leads ISU 20 16 in 4th q3
Can Enaruna not be our five? He looks gigantic
Didn't love that sequence but agbaji has shown a ton of effort on both ends. Need 5 like him
@approxinfinity said in St Joes Game Thread:
Can Enaruna not be our five? He looks gigantic
His defense is arguably the worst on the team
@BeddieKU23 said in St Joes Game Thread:
@approxinfinity said in St Joes Game Thread:
Can Enaruna not be our five? He looks gigantic
His defense is arguably the worst on the team
And it can't help that he struggles with short jumpers
Ochai & CB are impressive today.
11-12 from the line!
@BeddieKU23 lol well yeah. I'm confused why he's gigantic. That might be bad weight.
@RockChalkinTexas said in St Joes Game Thread:
@BeddieKU23 said in St Joes Game Thread:
@approxinfinity said in St Joes Game Thread:
Can Enaruna not be our five? He looks gigantic
His defense is arguably the worst on the team
And it can't help that he struggles with short jumpers
The film of his defense from the first half will not be fun for the coaches.. I can see why he's the last wing out there in rotations
@BeddieKU23 It looks as if his long legs prevent him from sliding fast, maybe?
Also we started rebounding. Which isn't even that impressive considering St Joe is tiny but hey, it's something...
I'm going to watch Bull Durham for catharsis this weekend I think.
Mercy St Joe LOVS jackin up those 3's huh ? lol.
@BShark said in St Joes Game Thread:
@Bosthawk Landen was smarter and tougher.
Dave has a better jumper
Turnovers are the main thing keep St Joe in it.
@approxinfinity said in St Joes Game Thread:
@BeddieKU23 lol well yeah. I'm confused why he's gigantic. That might be bad weight.
He definitely looks bigger out there than last yr. He needed to fill out his frame but he is still lacking the quickness to defend wings. His awareness on defense is below par as well
@BShark said in St Joes Game Thread:
Also we started rebounding. Which isn't even that impressive considering St Joe is tiny but hey, it's something...
pretty easy to get some rebounds when they let those 3's fly like they are
@jayballer67 And somehow to start the game St Joe was getting all the rebounds lol.
It's just two games but Ochai is our best player.
@BShark said in St Joes Game Thread:
@jayballer67 And somehow to start the game St Joe was getting all the rebounds lol.
lol - - good point
@BeddieKU23 The other guys got lazy last year with Dok doing it most of the time.
West Virginia was getting beat by Western Kentucky - - not sure now
Illinois down 3 to Ohio with 2 minutes left. WVU down 7 to WKU.
How could UVA was ranked higher than KU? They just got beat by USF.
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in St Joes Game Thread:
Illinois down 3 to Ohio with 2 minutes left. WVU down 7 to WKU.
CHAOS WEEKEND.
@BShark said in St Joes Game Thread:
It's just two games but Ochai is our best player.
That's bold. Weren't you talking about Doug Gottlieb premature takes yesterday? Lol
@approxinfinity said in St Joes Game Thread:
@BShark said in St Joes Game Thread:
It's just two games but Ochai is our best player.
That's bold. Weren't you talking about Doug Gottlieb premature takes yesterday? Lol
I'm saying through two games he has been the best player in both, and it hasn't been super close. Remarkable improvement. The Zags game turned when he got his bogus 4th foul.
@BShark said in St Joes Game Thread:
Tyon is a gamer, very athletic. But will have lapses.
Except for those 2 back doors they did on him yesterday, in a row!🤬
@Crimsonorblue22 said in St Joes Game Thread:
@BShark said in St Joes Game Thread:
Tyon is a gamer, very athletic. But will have lapses.
Except for those 2 back doors they did on him yesterday, in a row!🤬
Those are what I would call lapses.
UT turned it over on 4th and inches in red.zone
@approxinfinity said in St Joes Game Thread:
@BShark true. He's been great. More promising than all (?) of last year. I still think this is ultimately Marcus' team.
Marcus has no showed so far, surprisingly.
I will say this team scores better than I thought.
@Kcmatt7 said in St Joes Game Thread:
I will say this team scores better than I thought.
For not having a great PG (Marcus is a great player not a great PG, average PG probably) it's pretty remarkable.
Can this be Marcus’ team if he isn’t the guy you want to have the ball to close the game?
I see a better offense flow today, stats look better than yesterday. But those TOs have to shrink. For good.
I guess it's Braun's team then!
@Kcmatt7 said in St Joes Game Thread:
Can this be Marcus’ team if he isn’t the guy you want to have the ball to close the game?
@BShark said in St Joes Game Thread:
@approxinfinity said in St Joes Game Thread:
@BShark said in St Joes Game Thread:
It's just two games but Ochai is our best player.
That's bold. Weren't you talking about Doug Gottlieb premature takes yesterday? Lol
I'm saying through two games he has been the best player in both, and it hasn't been super close. Remarkable improvement. The Zags game turned when he got his bogus 4th foul.
His play has been more consistent so far. Very active and the perimeter shot looks legit. Ball handling and decision making are still not there.
Bill has some great pieces. But this is so different than rosters past. This team feels positionless.
Y'all see a Gonzaga PLAYER and staff member tested F'ING POSITIVE?
@approxinfinity said in St Joes Game Thread:
Bill has some great pieces. But this is so different than rosters past. This team feels positionless.
The pieces fit kind of oddly, but hopefully Self and the team figure things out. Potential is there.
@RockChalkinTexas Two now.
@Kcmatt7 said in St Joes Game Thread:
Can this be Marcus’ team if he isn’t the guy you want to have the ball to close the game?
Good question. Not sure yet
@RockChalkinTexas look how Few wears his mask!
@BeddieKU23 said in St Joes Game Thread:
@Kcmatt7 said in St Joes Game Thread:
Can this be Marcus’ team if he isn’t the guy you want to have the ball to close the game?
Good question. Not sure yet
I think the only one who can come close to creating his own shot - or dishing - is Thompson...
@Crimsonorblue22 When he actually had it on!
@Crimsonorblue22 Huggins was doing same thing. I'm imagining fines all around to level set expectations.
David's getting abused again. That's definitely a foul, though.
McCormack was just muscled by a white boy
@msanchez said in St Joes Game Thread:
David's getting abused again. That's definitely a foul, though.
That was sad
It was a foul but...embarrassing...
Well, that halftime lead didn't last very long....
Yikes.
Pathetic
woof
Dave def transformed his body but he is nowhere.near the athlete that Doke was
My God did they sleep for 20 minutes
10 - 0 run in 2 minutes...
Why is mitch guarding this kid. You got to be kidding me with this coaching
Could've been a technical, too.
All me ball so far
WTF
Enaruna!
And 1 for Enaruna...
Coming out like this after half time is a big yikers
Hahahahahahaha
layup after layup clank
Wow Wilson you cannot be serious
Gotta make those...
6'8 and can't dunk
CB!
Jalen looks so different without his hair
Willllllllsonnnnnnnn
More than half their shot attempts have been 3s....
Wilson is a 5-10 point guard in a 6-8 body
Sure guy
Tristan fighting
@DCHawker said in St Joes Game Thread:
More than half their shot attempts have been 3s....
Making super long ones too
@DCHawker said in St Joes Game Thread:
More than half their shot attempts have been 3s....
Most of them have hands in the face, too. Incredible.
Another missed layup
@BeddieKU23 said in St Joes Game Thread:
Another missed layup
Probably fouled, but Marcus should still make it.
Nice to see Enaruna make a jumper but thats a bad shot.
Marcus not used to being looked at to be the man.
Think enaruna and Wilson can run the 4and 5?
@approxinfinity Let's hope he play like yesterday again.
@Crimsonorblue22 said in St Joes Game Thread:
Think enaruna and Wilson can run the 4and 5?
Offense yes. Defense cover your eyes
@BeddieKU23 said in St Joes Game Thread:
@Crimsonorblue22 said in St Joes Game Thread:
Think enaruna and Wilson can run the 4and 5?
Offense yes. Defense cover your eyes
That's what they do on defense too.
Wilson has some vision and handles to him. Starting to show that and imagine we will see more
Hands in the face don’t do a lot. More important is making them move from their spot to catch the pass.
Illinois got bailed out by free-throws with 2 seconds left to take the lead and win.
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in St Joes Game Thread:
@BeddieKU23 said in St Joes Game Thread:
@Crimsonorblue22 said in St Joes Game Thread:
Think enaruna and Wilson can run the 4and 5?
Offense yes. Defense cover your eyes
That's what they do on defense too.
Most of this team does outside a few
David should be dominating this game. If he just tooks things slow and easy when getting the ball, it would be a good result every time.
Harris in and pestering
Harris came in and made a play on D.
Nice rebound and PUSH
Attaboy CB
It's nice that Braun is a sophomore.
Rebounding bug again
Lack of effort to rebound
CB takeover? :eyes:
We simply can't stop teams from scoring - at least getting shots they want. Our best defense is hoping they miss....
I like bumping Dave for Thompson in the starting lineup.
Lack of effort again to rebound by Enaruna
CB kind of reminds me of... Brandon Rush?
Harris!
@KirkIsMyHinrich CB reminds of Grayson Allen except with a fully wired brain
BAD SHOT TRISTAN
Never shoot again Tristan.
My God your selfish Enaruna
@DanR said in St Joes Game Thread:
@KirkIsMyHinrich CB reminds of Grayson Allen except with a fully wired brain
LOL..
@DanR said in St Joes Game Thread:
@KirkIsMyHinrich CB reminds of Grayson Allen except with a fully wired brain
Gross please no.
I want to see Gethro.
Will give Jalen credit - in both games he's worked pretty hard on the glass. Can't say that about anyone else...
Harris!
How can that be CB's foul? he was fouled first!
Keep playing Harris, please.
Nice play harris!
ISU just took the lead 23 20 with 1minuute+ left
Moves well on defense too. Needs the minutes
So how likely is Curry at semester?
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in St Joes Game Thread:
So how likely is Curry at semester?
One to monitor for sure
@Crimsonorblue22 said in St Joes Game Thread:
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in St Joes Game Thread:
So how likely is Curry at semester?
No scholarship
We have 1
@BeddieKU23 we do?
Crims is right. Curry actually would like to, but we don't have room.
Still on the hook for Silvio's scholarship.
He starts he finishes on schollie
Start Harris at this point I mean.
There's the Garrett we all remember
Keep it up guys. Head's up!
Harris' assist again! I think coach might want to play him as PG moving on.
Harris is that steady hand at PG that we need.
Yeah harris you have to work him in what a find!
Harris is tying this squad together
@BShark said in St Joes Game Thread:
Still on the hook for Silvio's scholarship.
Imagine that is a moving part. Kids going to jail
Why on Earth did Harris not get run last night?
He's a freshman too. Start developing him now.
Do you remember Jacque Vaughn?
I won't ever mention him again! Just pointing out both those guys have really long arms
@Crimsonorblue22 said in St Joes Game Thread:
@DanR we r done done talking about Grayson!🤬
Watching Harris HS highlights the kid seems super bright.
I know self said he so small and weak
@Kcmatt7 said in St Joes Game Thread:
Why on Earth did Harris not get run last night?
If he doesn't play going forward I'm going to be upset tbh.
@approxinfinity said in St Joes Game Thread:
Watching Harris HS highlights the kid seems super bright.
Great hoops IQ
Dajuan "Aaron Miles" Harris
@approxinfinity said in St Joes Game Thread:
Watching Harris HS highlights the kid seems super bright.
He's wired with PG intelligence with accuracy.
@approxinfinity said in St Joes Game Thread:
Harris is tying this squad together
He was one of the nicest guys last year after the game here in Austin.
@Kcmatt7 said in St Joes Game Thread:
Why on Earth did Harris not get run last night?
Yeah.. Hopefully gets asked during his next media session
@KirkIsMyHinrich got these vibes too
@Crimsonorblue22 said in St Joes Game Thread:
I know self said he so small and weak
Yeah he is very small, but he sure knows how to play.
Self did say that too
Dotson's size but has long arms and deceptive athleticism
Braun has 22. Career High
Hot damn
Love weak side help
Harris again!!!
HARRIS
Harris is everywhere
Good help he saw that developing way early.
We defiinitely look better with Harris, Braun, Ochai on the floor. But we definitely need others to step up. I see that in Jaylen.
Small but impactful
Finish that
A little guy who delivers.
I'm going to have to see Jalen dunk it to believe he can do it
Wow Jalen
Free throws better
Come on wilson! Love the explosion to the rim though
@DanR said in St Joes Game Thread:
I'm going to have to see Jalen dunk it to believe he can do it
He can't in game.
Jalen does have THICK legs though, will help him defend down low.
@BeddieKU23 said in St Joes Game Thread:
Come on wilson! Love the explosion to the rim though
I wish he stuff the rim instead of layup. Hehe.
DAMNIT
Oh man. Exciting though. Showtime!
St joes legs are shot
This current lineup of Harris, Garrett, Agbaji, Braun, and Wilson is my favorite so far.
Ahhhhhh yessssss
OK, we're keeping Harris. That was a nice dish
@Crimsonorblue22 said in St Joes Game Thread:
@BShark for real?
It would have to be a clean breakaway and maybe. He is not a great athlete for this level. He's a gamer though.
Harris actually knows how to dish on a break...!!!!
Wow Harris!
Wowoowow
So, Dajuan Harris.
Love pt guards!
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in St Joes Game Thread:
This current lineup of Harris, Garrett, Agbaji, Braun, and Wilson is my favorite so far.
It looks like that.
Wow layups!
Why didn't we play him yesterday?
He feels it, nose for D better than Dot
Braun getting close to a double-double...
And scene....Texas looses on a 57 yd fg attempt
@msanchez said in St Joes Game Thread:
Why didn't we play him yesterday?
One of those why bill why moments
Playing D and running them out of the gym... F--- Yeah!
Self said a while ago that Harris had the best hands on the team so.
Free throws and layups this would be a 30 point lead if we made either
Look out Baylor guards?
@Crimsonorblue22 lol slow down.
@KirkIsMyHinrich lol
Dave in the doghouse..
Honestly playing 5 guards is just better for KU
@BeddieKU23 said in St Joes Game Thread:
Free throws and layups this would be a 30 point lead if we made either
Really can't complain about FT shooting today - 76%
CB!
People who take their masks off to yell still haven't grasped the idea that the masks aren't on just to protect themselves.
Double Bonus time. DRINK
@KirkIsMyHinrich that's why I put the ?
Imagine stealing your future multi-year starting PG from MISSOURI STATE.
Wow that move by CB was FILTHY
Just play Harris and let's hang our hat on defense.
Wow wtf refs is that
@BShark said in St Joes Game Thread:
Imagine stealing your future multi-year starting PG from MISSOURI STATE.
Toughness.
We finally jelling?
@BShark said in St Joes Game Thread:
Imagine stealing your future multi-year starting PG from MISSOURI STATE.
and he's from Columbia MO
Remember BIFM playing post D?
Dajuan "Adonis Jordan" Harris for the older crowd.
I already feel so much better about the season now that we’ve seen Harris. I thought him not even getting a second yesterday was a sign he was just ass and we’d see him leave
Are we getting another season of Braun though?
Got our first rain since early Sept. ❤💙
@RockChalkinTexas said in St Joes Game Thread:
We finally jelling?
For today they might have found a future lineup to play in crunch time
@Kcmatt7 said in St Joes Game Thread:
Are we getting another season of Braun though?
Absolutely. Getting 4
Just like that now we're up by 15 pts now.
I hope. He looks like an NBA player to start the season though
Great sequence even though Ochai missed the three.
@BeddieKU23 said in St Joes Game Thread:
@Kcmatt7 said in St Joes Game Thread:
Are we getting another season of Braun though?
Absolutely. Getting 4
He'll be like old man Perey Ellis and we'll be better for it.
Having fun, finally
@BShark said in St Joes Game Thread:
Great sequence even though Ochai missed the three.
Didn't like that shot felt rushed but love the ball movement created by dajuan
I don't see Bryce Thomson ever making the passes that Harris is making
Wow Harris
Harris is an elite passer.
Okay it's official, Harris is my favorite player. I mean other than Marcus and Braun.
@DanR said in St Joes Game Thread:
I don't see Bryce Thomson ever making the passes that Harris is making
Bryce is going to be great for us but he isn't a PG at this level.
Come on Jalen make your free throws
@Crimsonorblue22 said in St Joes Game Thread:
@BShark can relieve
I think he will shine in a supplemental role.
Lol I love CB
Braun has 27 points. He also has 8 boards and 4 steals.
Can't believe that 3 didn't go down for CB
That's nice ball movement....
CB 30 points
He can score!
A solid lil 30 piece
Splash.
And the steal!
Harris's set shot works for me
Harris is a freshman and Braun is a sophomore! Happy days
Let's play Zags again.
DAJUAN
Harris is just a freaking player
@KirkIsMyHinrich hell, they already have chemistry too!
Harris has what's so hard to coach. You react not think!
@DanR said in St Joes Game Thread:
@KirkIsMyHinrich hell, they already have chemistry too!
Harris, like Braun, looks like a player who just "gets it."
It's like every single person was one role removed from the one they were supposed to be in until Harris got in.
Good teams win great teams cover.
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in St Joes Game Thread:
@DanR said in St Joes Game Thread:
@KirkIsMyHinrich hell, they already have chemistry too!
Harris, like Braun, looks like a player who just "gets it."
Didn't they use to play together?
@approxinfinity said in St Joes Game Thread:
It's like every single person was one role removed from the one they were supposed to be in until Harris got in.
Big Dave's role on the Bench?
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in St Joes Game Thread:
Harris is a freshman and Braun is a sophomore! Happy days
Thinking about this core with an elite big (Zach) coming in and an enforcer in Curry....
@msanchez said in St Joes Game Thread:
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in St Joes Game Thread:
@DanR said in St Joes Game Thread:
@KirkIsMyHinrich hell, they already have chemistry too!
Harris, like Braun, looks like a player who just "gets it."
Didn't they use to play together?
Their entire basketball lives basically.
@msanchez said in St Joes Game Thread:
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in St Joes Game Thread:
@DanR said in St Joes Game Thread:
@KirkIsMyHinrich hell, they already have chemistry too!
Harris, like Braun, looks like a player who just "gets it."
Didn't they use to play together?
Unsure.
@BShark said in St Joes Game Thread:
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in St Joes Game Thread:
Harris is a freshman and Braun is a sophomore! Happy days
Thinking about this core with an elite big (Zach) coming in and an enforcer in Curry....
I got goosebump just to think about it..!!
Guy walked
Our offense finally comes alive, TOs are manageable, steals # is swollen.. wow..
We need Bryce in!
Bryce buckets
Tyson -- needs to learn, quickly
Wow, DJ contested that shot from a bigger dude..!!
Bryce can defend too
@Crimsonorblue22 said in St Joes Game Thread:
Tyson -- needs to learn, quickly
Tyon has all the tools but lacks the hoop smarts that Jalen, Bryce, Harris and Braun have.
Have a good weekend.
So, we're averaging 92 points a game. Problem is just that Gonzaga is averaging 96...
As always, thanks for hosting and it's been a great entertainment, folks!
U guys get post game?
We need Dave! Hopefully he'll get better!
That was fun. This Thanksgiving I'm thankful for Dajuan Harris.
Bill saying Harris just hasn’t practiced much so he didn’t play uesterday
Edit: due to injury
Dave tweaked his ankle in the first half.
Someone called CB a p---- yesterday. Lol. Maybe in the paint. But we need him raining 3s.
HCBS will figure it out
He always does.
Ever loyal!
@approxinfinity I did lol. He was in the paint yesterday. Different story today...
"two great Bills of basketball... Yeah... Exactly what I was thinking" :face_with_rolling_eyes:
I think I'm gonna like me some Harris -- Jalen proving he has really worked in his off Season -liking the way he goes to the boards and playing well
I mean... You could either have a bad 5 (at this point) who doesn't rebound or defend or bump Dave for Dajuan and have a legit PG and wings that all are plus defenders and rebounders for their size.
We were +21 in 16 minutes with Harris on the floor
He had 5 assists
@approxinfinity said in St Joes Game Thread:
That was fun. This Thanksgiving I'm thankful for Dajuan Harris.
I like the looks of him - -made some nice passes - -looks like he defends pretty well
@Kcmatt7 said in St Joes Game Thread:
We were +21 in 16 minutes with Harris on the floor
Is this good if so why.
@Kcmatt7 said in St Joes Game Thread:
We were +21 in 16 minutes with Harris on the floor
ya I heard that, can't ask a lot more for your 1st extended time on the floor - -looks like he gonna be ok - - only one game but still
Easy to overlook Ochai dropping 18.
I LOVE Jalen's willingness to compete. You can't teach that. Shot is decent 6/9 from the line.
I see now
here is kind of a happy thought. - - Obaji - - Christian - - Jalen - - Harris - - Thompson all be the same classification next year as they are this year - -they retain their status - -yay I like that lol
@Kcmatt7 said in St Joes Game Thread:
Bill saying Harris just hasn’t practiced much so he didn’t play uesterday
Edit: due to injury
Well hopefully thats behind him. Absolutely need him on the court
@BShark said in St Joes Game Thread:
Easy to overlook Ochai dropping 18.
I LOVE Jalen's willingness to compete. You can't teach that. Shot is decent 6/9 from the line.
I think Jalen is going to be fine. - -we have some decent options there Wilson - - - Enaruna - -& others
Who all saw how sweet that was when Marcus just picked the St Joe's player clean - -I mean just took it lol CLEAN
Playing Harris takes pressure off Marcus. I loved his poise.
To me Wilson is the most improved player from last year.
Nice come back for Braun.
Abaji needs to keep shooting.
Enaruna has talent and length, hope that Self can give him more PT.
Bryce will be a star by next year.
@jayballer67 with Harris on the floor Marcus can go back to being a defensive assassin
Agree!
@approxinfinity said in St Joes Game Thread:
@jayballer67 with Harris on the floor Marcus can go back to being a defensive assassin
I like the looks of Haris, I mean it's just one game but I think he can be a solid PG for us for sure
The game changed completely with Harris as PG, the kid looked fearless.
Jalen Wilson with 14 points, 9 rebounds, and 3 assists off the bench today. He had a good game.
On to Kentucky.
Can someone explain to me how is it they figure the Plus/Minus ? - Harris a plus 21 in 15 minutes
@jayballer67 said in St Joes Game Thread:
Can someone explain to me how is it they figure the Plus/Minus ? - Harris a plus 21 in 15 minutes
How many points better the hawks were with him on the floor. Telling stat
Braun with 30 is big time. Hopefully he can score like that against better competition.
Agbaji has been very consistent so far. Nice to see out of him.
The guys I don't think mesh with this team are Enaruna, Lightfoot, McCormack and TGF. We need at least one of them to figure it out defensively because they are all liabilities on that side of the court.
This was the most enjoyable game for me in a while. I'm going to appreciate this season, a game at a time, however much of a season we get.
I will add Jalen Wilson has a skill set that will keep him on the floor. Really bouncy around the rim but can't dunk. Weird combo to have. Shooting needs to improve and the bunnies. But he gives max effort out there. Defense is still a work in progress too
@approxinfinity said in St Joes Game Thread:
This was the most enjoyable game for me in a while. I'm going to appreciate this season, a game at a time, however much of a season we get.
Definitely the game this squad needed after zaga. Some growth especially seeing how dominant Harris is at the little things
@BeddieKU23 he had a nice move yesterday where he dribbled through two defenders and was able to maintain control and get a nice shot off. His x axis quickness doesn't seem connected to his Y axis hops.
@BeddieKU23 said in St Joes Game Thread:
Braun with 30 is big time. Hopefully he can score like that against better competition.
Agbaji has been very consistent so far. Nice to see out of him.
The guys I don't think mesh with this team are Enaruna, Lightfoot, McCormack and TGF. We need at least one of them to figure it out defensively because they are all liabilities on that side of the court.
We need Dave to up his hoops IQ, that can be hard.
@approxinfinity said in St Joes Game Thread:
@BeddieKU23 he had a nice move yesterday where he dribbled through two defenders and was able to maintain control and get a nice shot off. His x axis quickness doesn't seem connected to his Y axis hops.
Who had this play?
I think Wilson. I still think enaruna will get better
@BShark said in St Joes Game Thread:
@BeddieKU23 said in St Joes Game Thread:
Braun with 30 is big time. Hopefully he can score like that against better competition.
Agbaji has been very consistent so far. Nice to see out of him.
The guys I don't think mesh with this team are Enaruna, Lightfoot, McCormack and TGF. We need at least one of them to figure it out defensively because they are all liabilities on that side of the court.
We need Dave to up his hoops IQ, that can be hard.
I'd regulate Dave to first front court player off the bench. He can't start against small teams and really against good teams until he actually proves his coach's words are not just words..
Start Garrett, Harris, Braun, Agbaji and Wilson. That 5 gives us the best defense and passing lineups
Bring in Bryce and Dave as main backups.
Sprinkle in Tristan and TGF as the game goes.
Regulate Mitch to emergency time.
Wouldn't mind seeing what Muscadin can do for rim protection, rim running as well. His limited seconds have shown some singular skills that this team needs.
@BeddieKU23 Wilson.
So, a further thought about Dave (and I would love to see his +-). In 33 minutes in 2 games, he has 16 points and 9 rebounds. Doesn't seem too bad. But that's the best that can be said. VERY inefficient 16 points - 33% from the field (less than half Doke's %). ZERO blocks. 7 turnovers. The fact is that the only thing he does reasonably well is shoot FTs. Notwithstanding his size, he doesn't provide any real rim protection or interior presence. His footwork is poor as is his positioning. He is not an effective or efficient scorer. He doesn't handle passes well and doesn't pass well out of the paint. He works hard and puts in the effort, but he isn't a starter quality at a top level program. He simply doesn't make us a better team when he is on the floor - arguably the opposite. While he may be able to be reasonably effective against some teams, he is a liability against quality bigs - Timme owned him. Based on a limited sample set of two games, our best line-up most nights is going to be 5 guards/wings....
We are going to need him to get better. I've never been a big dave fan-fouls! He's been better there, and he's got a jumper. I hope he and tyon get better, we will need them. I love 5 guards, just outrun them. But in a half court, ahh not so sure. We do have a lot of options and some decent shooters. Good to see Harris👀! Dave's a good guy, I want him to succeed
If he was even as good at defense as Perry or Landen I could live with the rest. He hurt his knee in the first half which is apparently why he came out worse in the 2nd half and ultimately didn't play most of it.
Tyon is hurt as well, but we already knew that. It was very apparent unfortunately, you could tell just by watching.
You know, I'm calling it, this team is going to be struggle city this year - both ends of the court. Hope I'm wrong.
@approxinfinity said in St Joes Game Thread:
@BeddieKU23 Wilson.
Thanks he has been impressive so far. Improved athleticism and he has that effort in him that you don't see often from guys who missed a year, he's got the effort of an upperclassmen. I have always been high on him even as the debate about him coming here was contentious on what position he'd play or role he'd carve out. I think what was missed was that for his size he had a lot of high level skills that fit in today's game. Excited to see how he progresses
If Harris plays like he did tonight or anywhere close this team will not have issues scoring the ball. When him, Garrett, Ochai, Braun and Wilson are on the floor that is an elite passing/driving/shooting attack
Wilson needs to start over Dave, who is a major problem. He is always chasing the game. Drive and or kick it out and shoot, go small.
Excellent point. If Harris can back up today's play against Kentucky Self will have no choice but to play him heavily going forward. That kind of defense and unselfish play is hard to find.
I always think back to Self saying he would have played on last years team if he was eligible. Sometimes that kind of talk can be hard to believe but after today you get the feeling he wasn't lying
@BeddieKU23 said in St Joes Game Thread:
Excellent point. If Harris can back up today's play against Kentucky Self will have no choice but to play him heavily going forward. That kind of defense and unselfish play is hard to find.
I always think back to Self saying he would have played on last years team if he was eligible. Sometimes that kind of talk can be hard to believe but after today you get the feeling he wasn't lying
really like his defense and his passing skill - -i know only one game but you can tellI think he gonna be solid for us
@jayballer67 said in St Joes Game Thread:
@BeddieKU23 said in St Joes Game Thread:
Excellent point. If Harris can back up today's play against Kentucky Self will have no choice but to play him heavily going forward. That kind of defense and unselfish play is hard to find.
I always think back to Self saying he would have played on last years team if he was eligible. Sometimes that kind of talk can be hard to believe but after today you get the feeling he wasn't lying
really like his defense and his passing skill - -i know only one game but you can tellI think he gonna be solid for us
Definitely want to see him do it against teams like Kentucky. St Joes was tired and let's face it a less talented team. It was exciting to see him on the court making such an impact but it begs to be seen if he can do those same things against bigger and more talented players
I like how the team seemed to mesh and flow better with Harris having primary ballhandling duties and Dave being on the bench.
I finally had time to watch the game this morning. A few things I picked up were
Marcus was fair at point other than he was trying to hard to get others involved instead of taking what was available. He needs to play the 2 and boy do we have a freshman that can play point
Christian just showed the freshmen the kind of effort they need to display at both ends if they want to steal his starting role. All the upside in the world can’t beat what he showed today.
If big Dave can’t rebound or defend better than what we saw he isn’t going to see the floor much.
I expected more from Mitch his effort seemed lacking which is odd.
Did I mention we have some freshmen that can play? Harris has some sick skills
@Kubie said in St Joes Game Thread:
I finally had time to watch the game this morning. A few things I picked up were
Marcus was fair at point other than he was trying to hard to get others involved instead of taking what was available. He needs to play the 2 and boy do we have a freshman that can play point
Christian just showed the freshmen the kind of effort they need to display at both ends if they want to steal his starting role. All the upside in the world can’t beat what he showed today.
If big Dave can’t rebound or defend better than what we saw he isn’t going to see the floor much.
I expected more from Mitch his effort seemed lacking which is odd.
Did I mention we have some freshmen that can play? Harris has some sick skills
Mitch is really really bad and I think most people are realizing that now. Unfortunately I'm not surprised but I get wanting to be hopeful for guys.
I think CB is locked as a starter the rest of his time at KU barring something insane.
Yeah he was otherwise really bad defensively in both games. Not surprised he only played 5 minutes against St Joe. Wilson and Tristan are better options at this point.
@BShark said in St Joes Game Thread:
@Kubie said in St Joes Game Thread:
I finally had time to watch the game this morning. A few things I picked up were
Marcus was fair at point other than he was trying to hard to get others involved instead of taking what was available. He needs to play the 2 and boy do we have a freshman that can play point
Christian just showed the freshmen the kind of effort they need to display at both ends if they want to steal his starting role. All the upside in the world can’t beat what he showed today.
If big Dave can’t rebound or defend better than what we saw he isn’t going to see the floor much.
I expected more from Mitch his effort seemed lacking which is odd.
Did I mention we have some freshmen that can play? Harris has some sick skills
Mitch is really really bad and I think most people are realizing that now. Unfortunately I'm not surprised but I get wanting to be hopeful for guys.
I think CB is locked as a starter the rest of his time at KU barring something insane.
I wouldn't say Mitch is bad BAD - -SURE he gets beat but as most saw last year 9-10 time he was able to recover and block the shot. - -Best shot blocker we have on the team - -takes Charges more then others do on the team - will get on the floor and get dirty for loose balls when others want to try and bend over and reach for the loose ball. Mitch does more then just try and score - - he is a or does the dirty work - -grabs a few rebounds , the thing he is bad at is Scoring. - -a lot just want to see that a guy scores and that's it- -all they look at - -more to it then that. - Like I said he may not be the best defensive player either but a lot of time he recovers and still makes the play.
Mitch never gonna be a big time scorer but he ads a lot of other components to the game that others on this team don't , or don't want to have - -he is not a bad - -BAD player , hell I could even say he is ba - -but bad BAD ? - -wouldn't go that far. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Boy St Joe has halted activities because of COVID. - -Gonzaga quarintine - -St Joe halting - that doesn't sound good. - - Worried with Marcus having breathing problems the other day against St Joe - -hoping he has become down with the COVID
@Crimsonorblue22 said in St Joes Game Thread:
they said Marcus was having some issues getting his breath after the game, , one of the things with COVID is effecting your breathing & lungs ? - -I'm not saying he is coming down with it - - I'm just hoping this isn't the case
Self did mention that has happened to Marcus in the past.
Dave was out 2nd half with precautionary knee injury.
Interesting to monitor going into Tuesday
@BeddieKU23 weird we never heard of it, though!
@Crimsonorblue22 said in St Joes Game Thread:
@BeddieKU23 weird we never heard of it, though!
Right, that was new to everyone hearing that about Marcus.
KU did report no issues with Covid as they left Fort Myers for Indianapolis.
@BeddieKU23 said in St Joes Game Thread:
Self did mention that has happened to Marcus in the past.
Dave was out 2nd half with precautionary knee injury.
Interesting to monitor going into Tuesday
keeping fingers crossed