Iāll update as I go here. But the two top names Iāve heard are Lance Leipold and Kevin Kane. Also this morning Graham Harrell (USC OC) is getting some buzz. Also in the mix (though less likely): Willie Fritz, Emmett Jones, Sean Lewis, Mike Elko, Jason Candle, Mike Norvell.
Much will shake out when the committee finds an AD.
@FarmerJayhawk Didn't Graham Harrell play College ball at Texas Tech years ago ?
@jayballer67 Yes! He was the QB in the famous Michael Crabtree catch vs. Texas game
There was some discussion about possible AD candidates as well.. want to cover that here or separate thread?
@bskeet said in Coaching Search Thread:
There was some discussion about possible AD candidates as well.. want to cover that here or separate thread?
Oooo good idea. I'll cover AD's too to reduce clutter. Anyhow, this is what I've got for that spot.
-Terry Mohajir is target numero uno. Money and timing are an issue, he just moved from Ark St. to UCF about a month ago. But very close ties to KU, from OP, and is interested.
-Missy Conboy from Notre Dame is another intriguing option. She went to HS some in Leavenworth, has a JD from KU, and has a significant record of success as an administrator at ND. She also was an enforcement officer at the NCAA right after law school. Her youngest is graduating from ND this year so timing might be right. Also would be good on optics to hire a woman AD after Long and Les's issues with women.
-Travis Goff, Deputy AD at Northwestern also has KU ties. An alum and grew up in Dodge. He leads their fundraising operation and has admin responsibility for football, volleyball, and baseball. He also is interested in the job.
-Banks Floodman, real estate developer. I don't think he's really that much in contention as of now. Yes, he spent a decade at the WEF, but doesn't have the high level experience in athletics we need. He's a flashy name for the press though!
-Danny Manning, no intro required. I also don't think he's in serious contention. Never has managed a large organization, but might be decent at fundraising. Worst part of hiring Danny is we might have to fire Danny. Sad day.
FWIW: Mark Mangino tweeted "KU should approach Army Deputy AD/COO Mike Harrity.... (He's) a KU grad. He worked in the athletic administration there as well as Notre Dame..."
I'm not particularly interested in Kane at this point. It would be too similar to Beaty's background at this point as far as P5 experience as a coordinator goes. I know he's a Jayhawk and probably who a lot of people at KU will want because of that, but I think he'll be a better candidate during the next coaching search.
Lance Leipold should probably be the top choice if Jones doesn't do enough this season to earn the job. The criticism from casual fans on Leipold is going to be what happened last time we hired Buffalo's head coach even though Gill was never given a fair chance by the fan base or Zenger.
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
I'm not particularly interested in Kane at this point. It would be too similar to Beaty's background at this point as far as P5 experience as a coordinator goes. I know he's a Jayhawk and probably who a lot of people at KU will want because of that, but I think he'll be a better candidate during the next coaching search.
Lance Leipold should probably be the top choice if Jones doesn't do enough this season to earn the job. The criticism from casual fans on Leipold is going to be what happened last time we hired Buffalo's head coach even though Gill was never given a fair chance by the fan base or Zenger.
That's not much of an argument against Leipold is it ? - -I'm all in for him. Your not going to hire a guy just because he Coach's Buffalo lol. - That doesn't factor if he knows he X's & O's does it
@jayballer67 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
I'm not particularly interested in Kane at this point. It would be too similar to Beaty's background at this point as far as P5 experience as a coordinator goes. I know he's a Jayhawk and probably who a lot of people at KU will want because of that, but I think he'll be a better candidate during the next coaching search.
Lance Leipold should probably be the top choice if Jones doesn't do enough this season to earn the job. The criticism from casual fans on Leipold is going to be what happened last time we hired Buffalo's head coach even though Gill was never given a fair chance by the fan base or Zenger.
That's not much of an argument against Leipold is it ? - -I'm all in for him. Your not going to hire a guy just because he Coach's Buffalo lol. - That doesn't factor if he knows he X's & O's does it
Not any different than when I suggested Mark Farley to replace Turner Gill I believe (I don't remember if it was here or KUSports) and people jumped all over me because he was from the same school as Terry Allen prior to when he came to KU. So people are dumb enough to do that and make the Gill comparison with Leipold regardless of how unfounded it would be just like a Farley/Allen comparison was about 10 years ago.
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@jayballer67 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
I'm not particularly interested in Kane at this point. It would be too similar to Beaty's background at this point as far as P5 experience as a coordinator goes. I know he's a Jayhawk and probably who a lot of people at KU will want because of that, but I think he'll be a better candidate during the next coaching search.
Lance Leipold should probably be the top choice if Jones doesn't do enough this season to earn the job. The criticism from casual fans on Leipold is going to be what happened last time we hired Buffalo's head coach even though Gill was never given a fair chance by the fan base or Zenger.
That's not much of an argument against Leipold is it ? - -I'm all in for him. Your not going to hire a guy just because he Coach's Buffalo lol. - That doesn't factor if he knows he X's & O's does it
Not any different than when I suggested Mark Farley to replace Turner Gill I believe (I don't remember if it was here or KUSports) and people jumped all over me because he was from the same school as Terry Allen prior to when he came to KU. So people are dumb enough to do that and make the Gill comparison with Leipold regardless of how unfounded it would be just like a Farley/Allen comparison was about 10 years ago.
I hear ya - -a lot of people just don't get it. - If the guy knows how to run a program and it's obvious to me anyways the guy has had Success I don't give a dam where he is coming from Buffalo or Ten Buck Two his record /preformance speaks for it's self - let him work with these young guys we get they might just be surprised - - I'm in
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@jayballer67 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
I'm not particularly interested in Kane at this point. It would be too similar to Beaty's background at this point as far as P5 experience as a coordinator goes. I know he's a Jayhawk and probably who a lot of people at KU will want because of that, but I think he'll be a better candidate during the next coaching search.
Lance Leipold should probably be the top choice if Jones doesn't do enough this season to earn the job. The criticism from casual fans on Leipold is going to be what happened last time we hired Buffalo's head coach even though Gill was never given a fair chance by the fan base or Zenger.
That's not much of an argument against Leipold is it ? - -I'm all in for him. Your not going to hire a guy just because he Coach's Buffalo lol. - That doesn't factor if he knows he X's & O's does it
Not any different than when I suggested Mark Farley to replace Turner Gill I believe (I don't remember if it was here or KUSports) and people jumped all over me because he was from the same school as Terry Allen prior to when he came to KU. So people are dumb enough to do that and make the Gill comparison with Leipold regardless of how unfounded it would be just like a Farley/Allen comparison was about 10 years ago.
There appears to be a push within players to make Jones as HC.
@AsadZ said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
There appears to be a push within players to make Jones as HC.
He's going to get a chance as interim coach this year. If KU goes 0-fer or only wins 1 game, I doubt Jones gets the interim tag removed.
@Texas-Hawk-10 Don't you think they'll fill the position before the season starts?
@bskeet said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@Texas-Hawk-10 Don't you think they'll fill the position before the season starts?
Not at this point. KU doesn't have an athletic director currently. KU will likely want the new AD to make the decision on a football coach. By the time a new AD gets hired, spring practice will have already passed with KU implementing Jones's overall vision and DeBorg's offense.
That presents three very big problems with hiring a new head coach after spring practice is over. The first is that the players wanted Jones and naming him interim head coach is preserving this recruiting class which is on the best in KU history and preventing a mass exodus of players and undoing the work of finally fixing KU's scholarship issues. A new head coach leads to a lot of recruits bailing and going elsewhere along with a bunch of other players since they don't have to sit out which would leave the new coach in arguably a worse position than what David Beaty inherited from Charlie Weis.
The second issue is that KU's offensive players would have to learn a second offensive system in 6 months and the defense a new system over the summer after going through spring practice learning DeBorg's system and continuing to develop Eliot's defensive system. A new head coach makes all of spring practice meaningless and puts KU further away from being competitive.
The third issue is what kind of quality would be in the staff with a new coach hired in May/June from outside the program. Quality coaches aren't going to leave their current jobs at that time of year and neither would quality assistant coaches. A staff hired in May/June would be full of red flags and lack of quality.
Naming Emmett Jones the interim is something the players wanted. That means motivation will not an issue for these players because they're playing for someone they love. If KU doesn't show any on field progress in 2021, it'll be much easier to justify the decision to bring in an outside coach like a Lance Leipold because Jones wouldn't have done enough to earn the job and the players will be much more understanding and accepting because their guy was given a chance.
That's why you go through the 2021 season with Emmett Jones as the interim and reevaluate after the season.
Looks like Floodman is in the driver's seat for the AD position? Sorry if this has been covered already, wanting to confirm.
@BShark said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Looks like Floodman is in the driver's seat for the AD position? Sorry if this has been covered already, wanting to confirm.
Negative
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@BShark said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Looks like Floodman is in the driver's seat for the AD position? Sorry if this has been covered already, wanting to confirm.
Negative
You hearing anything on who we are high on?
@Woodrow said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@BShark said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Looks like Floodman is in the driver's seat for the AD position? Sorry if this has been covered already, wanting to confirm.
Negative
You hearing anything on who we are high on?
Yeah I think Travis Goff (NW), Missy Conboy (ND), Kent McCarthy, Terry Mohaijr (UCF), Allen Greene (Auburn), Jason Booker (Royals), and Banks Floodman are on the list. Itāll get more clear once they hire the search firm officially and everyone is more directly on record with their interest.
Bookers from here
Iād love to see them surround the program with guys who were here when it was successful.
@Kcmatt7 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Iād love to see them surround the program with guys who were here when it was successful.
McAnderson would be a great addition as well. Shoot, even Banks coming back as an associate. Anything to get this football program rolling. I'm much bigger college football than basketball fan and would like to not be terrible at it
Should have an AD hire this week. Also, Todd Monken (not the Army coach, the current Georgia OC) is getting some traction for the HC job.
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Should have an AD hire this week. Also, Todd Monken (not the Army coach, the current Georgia OC) is getting some traction for the HC job.
Hearing alt about Travis Goff & Mike Harrly- - - -think I'd perfer Harrly from Army
@jayballer67 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Should have an AD hire this week. Also, Todd Monken (not the Army coach, the current Georgia OC) is getting some traction for the HC job.
Hearing alt about Travis Goff & Mike Harrly- - - -think I'd perfer Harrly from Army
I really doubt itāll be either. But the search firm has this sucker on lockdown. It wouldnāt surprise me at all if the hire was someone not on anyoneās radar.
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@jayballer67 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Should have an AD hire this week. Also, Todd Monken (not the Army coach, the current Georgia OC) is getting some traction for the HC job.
Hearing alt about Travis Goff & Mike Harrly- - - -think I'd perfer Harrly from Army
I really doubt itāll be either. But the search firm has this sucker on lockdown. It wouldnāt surprise me at all if the hire was someone not on anyoneās radar.
how about the Lady ? - -heard a lot of things on her too , what about her ? - Can't remember her name - - - - - Conboy ? - is that right ? - -probably not bites to get old lol
@jayballer67 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@jayballer67 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Should have an AD hire this week. Also, Todd Monken (not the Army coach, the current Georgia OC) is getting some traction for the HC job.
Hearing alt about Travis Goff & Mike Harrly- - - -think I'd perfer Harrly from Army
I really doubt itāll be either. But the search firm has this sucker on lockdown. It wouldnāt surprise me at all if the hire was someone not on anyoneās radar.
how about the Lady ? - -heard a lot of things on her too , what about her ? - Can't remember her name - - - - - Conboy ? - is that right ? - -probably not bites to get old lol
Iāve heard thereās some interest but no idea if sheāll make the final round.
Expect an announcement Thursday or Friday. Girod will make the decision probably Wednesday.
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Expect an announcement Thursday or Friday. Girod will make the decision probably Wednesday.
hoping for a really quality AD. - time to right the ship
Some chatter itāll end today. Donāt believe it.
Now hearing some talk off TOS that it's over. - Guy named Chun from Washington State out of the Pac 12 , talk was committee was pushing for this . - - Farmer ? - -help buddy. What's up ? What have you heard if anything on this guy? - -Any Good ? - -Would it be a good hire ? - Help me /us out buddy - any info ?
Also hearing more and more all the time , sounds like to me Monken from Army might be in good shape for the head Coaching position. Again Farmer , your Opinion ? Unless he does away with his triple option offense - -just don't think that would be a good fit , although also heard he has kind of adapted , Myself kind of Like Liepold from Buffalo , thoughts ?
@jayballer67 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Now hearing some talk off TOS that it's over. - Guy named Chun from Washington State out of the Pac 12 , talk was committee was pushing for this . - - Farmer ? - -help buddy. What's up ? What have you heard if anything on this guy? - -Any Good ? - -Would it be a good hire ? - Help me /us out buddy - any info ?
Also hearing more and more all the time , sounds like to me Monken from Army might be in good shape for the head Coaching position. Again Farmer , your Opinion ? Unless he does away with his triple option offense - -just don't think that would be a good fit , although also heard he has kind of adapted , Myself kind of Like Liepold from Buffalo , thoughts ?
Donāt believe a thing. Iām totally convinced nobody knows ish about the AD search as far as candidates. Iām sticking with my late this week timeline though.
On Monken, if he runs something like Coastal Iād be for it. Still prefer Leipold though.
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@jayballer67 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Now hearing some talk off TOS that it's over. - Guy named Chun from Washington State out of the Pac 12 , talk was committee was pushing for this . - - Farmer ? - -help buddy. What's up ? What have you heard if anything on this guy? - -Any Good ? - -Would it be a good hire ? - Help me /us out buddy - any info ?
Also hearing more and more all the time , sounds like to me Monken from Army might be in good shape for the head Coaching position. Again Farmer , your Opinion ? Unless he does away with his triple option offense - -just don't think that would be a good fit , although also heard he has kind of adapted , Myself kind of Like Liepold from Buffalo , thoughts ?
Donāt believe a thing. Iām totally convinced nobody knows ish about the AD search as far as candidates. Iām sticking with my late this week timeline though.
On Monken, if he runs something like Coastal Iād be for it. Still prefer Leipold though.
ya who knows but hope we find out something before long. Get our AD in place. - -And ya actually that's who I'd prefer to is Leipold - yet you have a lot of people say NOT another Buffalo Coach we have been that route. - - Umm news flash Leipold is not Turner Gill
Rumors that Girod has his person. Trying to chase down who...
Rumors are false.
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Rumors are false.
ya hearing rumors possibly of the Coach too - - - - Hopefully NOT Fritz
@jayballer67 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Rumors are false.
ya hearing rumors possibly of the Coach too - - - - Hopefully NOT Fritz
TBD. I don't think Fritz is a lock by any stretch.
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@jayballer67 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Rumors are false.
ya hearing rumors possibly of the Coach too - - - - Hopefully NOT Fritz
TBD. I don't think Fritz is a lock by any stretch.
sure hope not - - - wanting Leipold
We need to get this AD wrapped up get him in place so we can concentrate on hiring the next Football Coach. - -been hearing Goff quite a bit - if he is let's get him wrapped up so we can concentrate on getting our next football Coach in place, & not lose a year of recruiting. Hard to sell a kid on a School/program with no Coach.
We have had a couple pretty good years in recruiting, don't need any set backs. Been hearing Leipold from some on his staff according to insiders that he really wants to Coach at KU - would love to have him - can't let this chance slip away. -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Well, not going to be this week. Thereās some internal friction.
@jayballer67 Even when the new AD gets hired, there's not a great reason to hire a new coach after spring practice is done. The quality of the staff wouldn't be great because most assistant coaches aren't leaving their job during the summer. You wreck multiple recruiting classes because you lose a lot of recent recruits and start off way behind in 2022 recruiting.
Whoever the new AD is needs to let Jones coach this season, then reevaluate after the season. If Jones struggles early, then recruits can wait to see who the next coach is. The current players could be less likely to transfer out because the guy they wanted was given a fair shot at the job so there's going to be more acceptance of the whatever the outcome is next season.
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@jayballer67 Even when the new AD gets hired, there's not a great reason to hire a new coach after spring practice is done. The quality of the staff wouldn't be great because most assistant coaches aren't leaving their job during the summer. You wreck multiple recruiting classes because you lose a lot of recent recruits and start off way behind in 2022 recruiting.
Whoever the new AD is needs to let Jones coach this season, then reevaluate after the season. If Jones struggles early, then recruits can wait to see who the next coach is. The current players could be less likely to transfer out because the guy they wanted was given a fair shot at the job so there's going to be more acceptance of the whatever the outcome is next season.
That's very true. There is a big part of me that wants them to leave Jones alone, let him have his shot for the Regular season for more then one reason. Who knows maybe just maybe the guy might have a knack, I know he has a great relationship with the current players or at least a decent amount of them. Doesn't necessarily translate into W's, think he will get the most out of these kids.
Believe it or not there IS some talent on this roster, the defensive secondary is coming, could be a pretty salty group in another year. I think possibly we have the makings of actual QB or two - -given time. - -I truly jumped the gun on this late Transfer QB , the more I see of him the more I like got a good arm, for sure has some juice, plus I think in a year or two our two FR QB'S could surprise.
I think the big question as has been these past few years is can we assemble a group of OL that can give these guys time to make plays, if you can't protect - doesn't matter who you have back there, really looking for improvement in BOTH lines OL & DL. - need more out of the DL to put pressure on opposing QB'S
The big thing I don't want to see is disruption in recruiting, have had 2 pretty decent classes coming in can't afford to disrupt this. Again let Jones run the team this year none of this coming in in the middle and trying to shake things up - -AGAIN. - -If he starts the Season as Coach - -let him finish this season as Coach - -Just want to see this as a competitive team again , a team where a person can enjoy a Saturday afternoon feeling like we actually have a shot at some W's and not having to worry about how be the spread of us getting our ass kicked on yet ANOTHER Saturday afternoon. Miss the days of being able to go to the Stadium and enjoy a competitive game. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Well, not going to be this week. Thereās some internal friction.
go figure
Get the right AD. There is a template. It's called Bob Frederick.
Hire is done. Announced Monday. My gut says itās Goff
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Hire is done. Announced Monday. My gut says itās Goff
If it indeed is , could of done worse for sure
@jayballer67 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Hire is done. Announced Monday. My gut says itās Goff
If it indeed is , could of done worse for sure
More confident now. 90% sure itās Goff.
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@jayballer67 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Hire is done. Announced Monday. My gut says itās Goff
If it indeed is , could of done worse for sure
More confident now. 90% sure itās Goff.
How about yourself ? - -you think it's a good hire with him if indeed that's who it is ?
@jayballer67 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@jayballer67 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Hire is done. Announced Monday. My gut says itās Goff
If it indeed is , could of done worse for sure
More confident now. 90% sure itās Goff.
How about yourself ? - -you think it's a good hire with him if indeed that's who it is ?
Considering the circumstances I think itās a good hire. Goff is green but has been around one of the best in the business for quite awhile.
I also think the coaching search moves FAST now. The search firm already is vetting and gauging interest. Leipold would take the gig tomorrow if offered.
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@jayballer67 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Hire is done. Announced Monday. My gut says itās Goff
If it indeed is , could of done worse for sure
More confident now. 90% sure itās Goff.
How about yourself ? - -you think it's a good hire with him if indeed that's who it is ?
Considering the circumstances I think itās a good hire. Goff is green but has been around one of the best in the business for quite awhile.
I also think the coaching search moves FAST now. The search firm already is vetting and gauging interest. Leipold would take the gig tomorrow if offered.
I agree with you on how quick they move. With the Ad in place , everything I've been hearing that Leipold really wants this job, and I think again from things I've heard well John Q Public wants Leipold also - - hell I think he would be sweet also - -and I'm thinking he is in pretty favorable spot with the group looking for the Coach.
All things considered really don't think we could ask for much better, plus I think from everything I've heard and his field success he can turn things around. We've went with the Big Name Coach's and look where tha has got us , really don't think I want to go that route anymore. - -Thing is - -are we just another step up higher of a stepping stone for Leipold? Just time will tell , not sure how he does in his recruiting but I'm hyped about his possible hire anyways - - I'm ready to give him his shot. - -Hell we might have a New A d by Monday and maybe even a Coach by Friday. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Farmer ? - - -we getting a new AD named tomorrow buddy ? - - have you heard ? - - Coach by the end of the week ? - -Goff & Leipold hopefully? - -what you thinking ? any updates buddy ?
@jayballer67 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Farmer ? - - -we getting a new AD named tomorrow buddy ? - - have you heard ? - - Coach by the end of the week ? - -Goff & Leipold hopefully? - -what you thinking ? any updates buddy ?
Goff and any day now. I would be stunned if the coaching search was done by weekās end. Thinking more end of April-ish
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@jayballer67 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Farmer ? - - -we getting a new AD named tomorrow buddy ? - - have you heard ? - - Coach by the end of the week ? - -Goff & Leipold hopefully? - -what you thinking ? any updates buddy ?
Goff and any day now. I would be stunned if the coaching search was done by weekās end. Thinking more end of April-ish
Really? still that far out on a Coach? - -thought the committee or Search had been having guys come in for interviews. - - Do they have to wait for the Ad or couldn't Girod himself give the go ahead for that. That if it is stil that far out makes me think they won't hire on during the Season and just let Jones have the reins for this Season
@jayballer67 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
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@jayballer67 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Farmer ? - - -we getting a new AD named tomorrow buddy ? - - have you heard ? - - Coach by the end of the week ? - -Goff & Leipold hopefully? - -what you thinking ? any updates buddy ?
Goff and any day now. I would be stunned if the coaching search was done by weekās end. Thinking more end of April-ish
Really? still that far out on a Coach? - -thought the committee or Search had been having guys come in for interviews. - - Do they have to wait for the Ad or couldn't Girod himself give the go ahead for that. That if it is stil that far out makes me think they won't hire on during the Season and just let Jones have the reins for this Season
Yeah, the AD will want to do his own interviews in all likelihood even though TurnKey did their vetting and all that.
Goff. Wednesday presser.
LEIPOLD YOU FINE BASTARD GET DOWN HERE
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
LEIPOLD YOU FINE BASTARD GET DOWN HERE
would love that BUT from what I saw today more like Monken or Fritz -- I just really don't want Fritz - - would love Leipold but doesn't seem that's happening
young - - - really young BUT maybe that's what this system needs young entergentic fresh meat - -someone who is gonna be aggressive and get after it - -i like it
Ok so now we have our AD - - now time to nail down the Coach and umm - - -NO please - - NO not Fritz - -come on down Leipold
@jayballer67 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
LEIPOLD YOU FINE BASTARD GET DOWN HERE
would love that BUT from what I saw today more like Monken or Fritz -- I just really don't want Fritz - - would love Leipold but doesn't seem that's happening
That report is incorrect.
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@jayballer67 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
LEIPOLD YOU FINE BASTARD GET DOWN HERE
would love that BUT from what I saw today more like Monken or Fritz -- I just really don't want Fritz - - would love Leipold but doesn't seem that's happening
That report is incorrect.
if what your saying is true - - I would be very very happy. - -I want Leipold
Interviews starting tomorrow. Buckle up.
I'll take Leipold, please and thanks.
Great tweet earlier - "this is going to come full circle. A Buffalo coach put us in this mess, and now one has to pull us out."
@Kcmatt7 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
I'll take Leipold, please and thanks.
Great tweet earlier - "this is going to come full circle. A Buffalo coach put us in this mess, and now one has to pull us out."
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Interviews starting tomorrow. Buckle up.
I think you and I are boat looking for the same guy possibly. - - what chances you think he has ? realistically ? - -Leipold. - -Been hearing alot about Fritz & Monken - -Leipold 3rd? - Just don't really want Fritz yet thats probably who we end up with. - Think I would rather have one of the other two 1st - - Thoughts ?
@jayballer67 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Interviews starting tomorrow. Buckle up.
I think you and I are boat looking for the same guy possibly. - - what chances you think he has ? realistically ? - -Leipold. - -Been hearing alot about Fritz & Monken - -Leipold 3rd? - Just don't really want Fritz yet thats probably who we end up with. - Think I would rather have one of the other two 1st - - Thoughts ?
I would be pretty surprised if it wasnāt Leipold. And fast.
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@jayballer67 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Interviews starting tomorrow. Buckle up.
I think you and I are boat looking for the same guy possibly. - - what chances you think he has ? realistically ? - -Leipold. - -Been hearing alot about Fritz & Monken - -Leipold 3rd? - Just don't really want Fritz yet thats probably who we end up with. - Think I would rather have one of the other two 1st - - Thoughts ?
I would be pretty surprised if it wasnāt Leipold. And fast.
Oh Buddy that sounds nice , like the sounds of that - just have to keep my fingers crossed
The football/athletic training facility at Northwestern is a site to behold. It's right on Lake Michigan, simply spectacular. Goff's fundraising ability at NU was incredible. I'm hoping he has the same impact at KU.
Getting some interest. He'd at least listen and probably interview. I have him at the top of tier 2 on my board. https://247sports.com/coach/Dan-Lanning-3823/ ā
@FarmerJayhawk Would be very happy with
My gut feeling is for not to hire a new coach and see what Jones can do. He has support from players and hopefully recruits will not decommit.
With Jones I think that KU football will not be worse than last year.
One scenario is to let him be HC for one year and evaluate the progress and if enough progress is not seen hire a new coach next year. This can also provide greater number of candidates next year as it will be difficult to hire a new coach now, Spring practices are already underway.
@AsadZ said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
My gut feeling is for not to hire a new coach and see what Jones can do. He has support from players and hopefully recruits will not decommit.
With Jones I think that KU football will not be worse than last year.
he already had some support & backing of recruits when he wasn't the interim Coach - -they was already backing him along with current players. I think if he remain Coach throughout this year - -this roster would stay in tact. Hell we took a chance many moons ago with the Basketball Coach. A fella named Roy Williams, he really didn't have any head Coaching experience and we saw how that turned out. - -I know totally different but just saying.
Do I want him as a permnant HC don't think so not right now anyways. - - just hoping they retain him whoever they hire
@AsadZ I think now is the right time to hire. There isnāt any competition from other schools in the market so we kind of have our pick. Leipold and Monken were both finalists for P5 jobs last year, so I donāt want to have to compete with other schools when hiring in December.
Your point makes sense as well.
Some poor guy who really needs a hobby wrote a way too long piece on candidates. Worth checking out tho https://gametheoryblog.wixsite.com/gametheory/single-post/kansas-football-coaching-search-a-tradition-unlike-any-other ā
Hearing this is about to bLLow open.
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Hearing this is about to bLLow open.
been hearing/reading the same thing or pretty much. - -Hearibg cou ld be within the next 24 hours
@jayballer67 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Hearing this is about to bLLow open.
been hearing/reading the same thing or pretty much. - -Hearibg cou ld be within the next 24 hours
It wonāt be that quick. This time next week it could be done.
Interviews are going to wrap very soon. Think we pretty much know this weekend.
@FarmerJayhawk wiLL we?
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@Kcmatt7 very LLikely. Goff is doing his due diligence and could find a Juicy Mystery candidate as well.
Been hearing some other names tossed around. STILL just fully believe in the end when it's all said and done now - - going to be Leipold Or Monken - -dam those aren't spelled right but you get what I mean lol
Well , just from everything I've been hearing lately is - -it just sounds like Monken just might edge out Leipold. - -I just can't honestly say exactly how I feel if this turns out to be the case. I want Leipold but then who am I ? - -just a fan that's all.
I have heard skuttle butt that if he comes that yes he is agreeable to change in offensive thinking - -He BETTER, that offense he ran at Army will not cut it in the Big 12. - -He very well might be a decent Coach, like I've read were probably not going to get much better chance for a Coach other then him or Leipold - -that's who I want . I'm sure in time if it is Monken it will sink in and we go from thre.
I'm just ready to get this Coach hired and move on- - let's get this done
@jayballer67 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Well , just from everything I've been hearing lately is - -it just sounds like Monken just might edge out Leipold. - -I just can't honestly say exactly how I feel if this turns out to be the case. I want Leipold but then who am I ? - -just a fan that's all.
I have heard skuttle butt that if he comes that yes he is agreeable to change in offensive thinking - -He BETTER, that offense he ran at Army will not cut it in the Big 12. - -He very well might be a decent Coach, like I've read were probably not going to get much better chance for a Coach other then him or Leipold - -that's who I want . I'm sure in time if it is Monken it will sink in and we go from thre.
I'm just ready to get this Coach hired and move on- - let's get this done
Oh yeah thereās a 0% chance Monken would run flexbone triple option at KU. Rumor is heās got his OC in the bag to bring along but itās a bit flimsy right now. Looking more spread option.
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@jayballer67 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Well , just from everything I've been hearing lately is - -it just sounds like Monken just might edge out Leipold. - -I just can't honestly say exactly how I feel if this turns out to be the case. I want Leipold but then who am I ? - -just a fan that's all.
I have heard skuttle butt that if he comes that yes he is agreeable to change in offensive thinking - -He BETTER, that offense he ran at Army will not cut it in the Big 12. - -He very well might be a decent Coach, like I've read were probably not going to get much better chance for a Coach other then him or Leipold - -that's who I want . I'm sure in time if it is Monken it will sink in and we go from thre.
I'm just ready to get this Coach hired and move on- - let's get this done
Oh yeah thereās a 0% chance Monken would run flexbone triple option at KU. Rumor is heās got his OC in the bag to bring along but itās a bit flimsy right now. Looking more spread option.
Well again asking think I know your answer but checking to see if you had flipped. - -I still would prefer Leipold more, & beleive you said he was your # 1 choice - - has that changed ?
I dunno Farmer , but what you think ? -I just feel that whoever comes in really should give Jones a chance to remain on Staff. I just think the guy has THAT connection with these kids, pretty good recruiter , just think he is to important of a piece of the staff to lose. - -I guess the big thin is though would Jones even want to remain on this staff if he isn't hired as the HC. - -he just seems to be able to relate to this group and remain leary of mass trnsfers if he isn't some kind of piece in this program - -what you think Farmer ?
Leipold is still #1 on my board. Iām fully prepared for the very casual football fans to hate the hire because he has the charisma of a tomato our last Buffalo hire didnāt work out. I feel very strongly whoever gets the job will retain Jones.
Jay Norvell, who's been mentioned a fair amount, is out. Declined to go through the process.
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Jay Norvell, who's been mentioned a fair amount, is out. Declined to go through the process.
well wasn't that Serious then
Vernon said Kane impressed in his interview. Take that fwiw.
Still think it is either Monken or LL. Would be happy with either personally.
@Kcmatt7 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Vernon said Kane impressed in his interview. Take that fwiw.
Still think it is either Monken or LL. Would be happy with either personally.
Seems like things are spinning again , sounds like Monken chances might have dropped some - -some say they would be surprised not to see him at Army this fall , seems like Leipold might be gaining steam again. Also read the Texas A & m cord name pop up - -Ecko? - -is that right?
Monken or Leipold. Kane is a really impressive guy though.
Final 5: Leipold, Monken, Kane, Creighton, Elko.
yikes
Held is a good coach. Just not a fit for what we need right now. Would be up my list for OC though.
@FarmerJayhawk super yikes is for that Miles story. Dude was straight up senile.
Definitely in āmany people are sayingā territory now but Monken might get it. I havenāt been able to get anything solid for a day or so, which means this plane is about to land.
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Definitely in āmany people are sayingā territory now but Monken might get it. I havenāt been able to get anything solid for a day or so, which means this plane is about to land.
DAMMIT
if that's true guess we just got to take what we get - -really wanted Leipold
@jayballer67 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Definitely in āmany people are sayingā territory now but Monken might get it. I havenāt been able to get anything solid for a day or so, which means this plane is about to land.
DAMMIT
I mean heās my 1B to Leipoldās 1A. I wouldnāt be disappointed at all.
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@jayballer67 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Definitely in āmany people are sayingā territory now but Monken might get it. I havenāt been able to get anything solid for a day or so, which means this plane is about to land.
DAMMIT
I mean heās my 1B to Leipoldās 1A. I wouldnāt be disappointed at all.
understand buddy just had my heart set on 1 A - - as long as Monken can get an offense that works in the Big 12. - - I sure hope they retain Jones in some capacity
Something just bothering a little. So , we have taken all this time to find that RIGHT Coach Ok , I get that but having taken so long to decide find that Coach mean while back at the Ranch, this current roster has now went through an entire Spring Conditioning , learning an offense and getting to really no know the guy that got tagged as an Interim Coach , a guy that by the way a lot and I mean a lot happen to connect with and like A lot Now I know before it's even said in any response - - -you don't hire a Guy as your head Coach just because the players really like him - - True I get that I mean ya think ? However it is really nice to have a Coach that the players CAN connect with and more then ready to bust their Ass for. , do anything for. Where I'm hearing that very possibly the new Coach we do hire - - umm not so much not really a Coach/player type of guy
So actually here is the big thing I'm trying to bring out in the bigger picture overall scheme of things is : This thing has drug out the entire Spring. What would be so wrong to give Jones THIS season to show what he could do ?-- Hell who knows he might even surprise people be more competitive - -win games - oh dear parrish the thought can't be. YET what if he did ? - proved people wrong , dam we will never know if he wasn't given that chance At this point what's ONE more shit season if it doesn't work out with him? - were sure the hell no worse off then we are right now - - - can't get any worse.
With him having a Season to show what he can do - -you take a big less chance of player exodus/transfer out with another Coach. - -With it taking this long , WITH Jones you have a team that knows the Coach - -we have a OC where the have had time to learn his approach.
You are now brining in a new Coach - -and that Coach most of them want to bring in their own staff, were right back at square ONE - -AGAIN. on top of mass exodus chances are the new Coach has his own choice of an OC. So now the kids have to start all over new Coach - - New OC - learn yet ANOTHER offense in the fall and once again turns into one giant cluster F - - - .
Who can say 100 % that a NEW Coach being brought in Now would do any better ? - -you can't say he would - -so nothing to lose.
Don't get me wrong having said this - -yes we need change , I just think the way the timing of this played out -- is just BAD TIMING. With it now that it is think maybe would of been better to play the Season out with Jones and who knows may surprise - if he does - -Staff remains the same The Connection with the kids are already there - If he meets expectations you simply remove the title of Interim If not? - -- - then you have the off Season to do the Search. - -just random thoughts
Well the big ol pushover Marshmellow me - -got to say I just became impressed by Monken , looks like he might have the inside track. - -Took a peek off other site LJW had a couple of really good video's of Monken one when they were getting ready to play Michigan and his speech to the team and the other after their win against Temple - got to say got me jacked hyphd up -course that's pretty easy to do.
If I can't get my number 1 Leipold then this guy would work , looks like really invested motovaitor. - -I'm ready , check these video's I like it - -also watched him Mic up at practice pretty cool. - -let's do this
Pretty sure itās Monken. Weāll found out very shortly.
some program should probably pick off Jones for his recruiting ability. he's not going to advance at kansas
@bennie said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
some program should probably pick off Jones for his recruiting ability. he's not going to advance at kansas
let's hope he is able to stay in some capicity - -if not your going to see transfers
Monken is a good coach, super hard to win at Army.
Got this from one of Army sites. : Black Knight Nation can confirm , that Monken has made calls to assemble a staff to take with him to Kansas. The number of Assistants Monken could take with him is not as many a one would think
@bennie said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
some program should probably pick off Jones for his recruiting ability. he's not going to advance at kansas
Likely getting a promotion when presumably Monken is official.
Should be official within 24 hours. I think Monken brings his DC, goes external for OC, rest of the staff stays.
Oh idk about that. There will be some departures. No way Monken is only bringing two coaches with him.
@Kcmatt7 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Oh idk about that. There will be some departures. No way Monken is only bringing two coaches with him.
not so sure about that. From what I read of the knights message boards said he was making calls for his staff but wasn't near as many coming with him a what you might think
Read this : - -Sources from inside the College football industry said. They felt Geoff will make a decision today. Saying as of this morning nothing yet but not far off
OMG - - this Coaching search has turned into one huge Cluster F - - - . KU fans wondering why KU Goff and others are dragging their feet making the announcement - - - Army fans going nuts as to WHY Monken would want to come to this crap show. - Some Army fans saying they don't blame Monken cause he as always wanted to Coach at a P-5 School , Some saying his legacy is being destroyed by coming to KU - it's just insane
@jayballer67 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
OMG - - this Coaching search has turned into one huge Cluster F - - - . KU fans wondering why KU Goff and others are dragging their feet making the announcement - - - Army fans going nuts as to WHY Monken would want to come to this crap show. - Some Army fans saying they don't blame Monken cause he as always wanted to Coach at a P-5 School , Some saying his legacy is being destroyed by coming to KU - it's just insane
Patience. All in due time. Goff has his man.
@jayballer67 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
OMG - - this Coaching search has turned into one huge Cluster F - - - . KU fans wondering why KU Goff and others are dragging their feet making the announcement - - - Army fans going nuts as to WHY Monken would want to come to this crap show. - Some Army fans saying they don't blame Monken cause he as always wanted to Coach at a P-5 School , Some saying his legacy is being destroyed by coming to KU - it's just insane
Take a deep breath. Goff is doing his due diligence on this which if Jeff Long had done a few years back, wouldn't have KU in this situation today. It also doesn't really make much PR sense to announce the day before the spring game. I wouldn't be surprised at all if the official announcement doesn't happen until Saturday during or immediately after the spring game.
Hell there are some that STILL doesn't even believe it's Monken - still thinking Leipold or even Fritz
ITS LEIPOLD
Guess we don't have to worry about Army going to war against KU....
GUYS IM SO HAPPY
IT'S TURNER GILL!
/s
I'm happy with the choice. I always wonder why a decent coach would take the KU job, but then I remember that they'll get paid millions even if they don't win a game.
@BShark said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
ITāS TURNER GILL!
/s
Just to be clear: you made me laugh thus the upvote. As for the actual sentiment ... :face_vomiting:
@DanR said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
Iām happy with the choice. I always wonder why a decent coach would take the KU job, but then I remember that theyāll get paid millions even if they donāt win a game.
True. But with our dismal W/L record over the past few decades, a coach has a better chance of getting a statue erected in their honor coaching at KU than at any other school. Averaging about 4 wins per season is about all it would take. And if it doesn't happen, well, you still have the money.
I have no real issue with the Leipold hire. I wish he were a few years younger, I suppose, but that's about it. He will have to demonstrate some recruiting skill, but with transfer eligibility the way it is, you can remake your roster on the fly now, so if he's got the skill, KU could turn over the roster relatively quickly, making a rebuild a bit more possible.
@FarmerJayhawk are we keeping Jones?
@Crimsonorblue22 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@FarmerJayhawk are we keeping Jones?
I really believe so. Buffaloās WR coach was here under Weis and it was less than stellar š³
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
ITS LEIPOLD
Mercy Mercy had me kind of Swaying had made it up in my mind that Monken would be fine , dam good Coach but deep down wanted Leipold , maybe less exodus of players , just hope he can recruit
My question now is Farmer. All we had been hearing lately was it was pretty much a done deal and it was going to be Monken , Soo did Monken end up turning us down? After all this Was Leipold our 1st or 2nd choice and become # 1 after Monken turned it down.
@jayballer67 said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
My question now is Farmer. All we had been hearing lately was it was pretty much a done deal and it was going to be Monken , Soo did Monken end up turning us down? After all this Was Leipold our 1st or 2nd choice and become # 1 after Monken turned it down.
I asked two very connected people on this earlier and got polar opposite answers. One swore Leipold led wire to wire and the other said the Monken deal fell apart after some question he couldn't bring along his preferred OC. So we'll probably never know. Either way,
WE HIRED LANCE F* LEIPOLD BUCKETEERS LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOO
Here is the thing, like they are saying on the radio media sports talk , they hope that KU fans think that Leipold is going to come in and just kill it the 1st year.
People need to look at this like year Zero. -- Leipold no spring ball with the guys , trying to install an offense during the summer and then fall trying to install new offense, like they said KU not going to be good THIS year, but then again what's one more crappy year
It's going to be the following year that we begin to see a little bit. - However hears a anyalst from CBS sports said when he was asked to project KU wins for his 1st year and he said he could see KU getting a couple of Non Con wins and then even possibly , possibly scaring the hell out of ONE BIG 12 opponent or even winning a Big Twelve game
The National media all over this all very positive for the KU hire saying KU finally got it right and should feel very fortunate to get a guy with the quality of Leipold No matter what happens this year - - Year Zero - Think we have a very Quality Coach
@jayballer67 agreed. This year could be rough. Lots of new things happening, big transition. But it wouldn't surprise me at all to see 4-5 wins in 2022 and bowling every year after.
From Tom Oates a well respected writer in Madison. Buffalo football coach Lance Leipold just told me he will be named coach at Kansas. āGreat hire by KU. @CoachLeipold is a rock-solid program builder in the Barry Alvarez tradition. He will need time, though. A coach doesnāt develop players overnight.ā
@FarmerJayhawk said in Coaching Search/AD Thread:
@jayballer67 agreed. This year could be rough. Lots of new things happening, big transition. But it wouldn't surprise me at all to see 4-5 wins in 2022 and bowling every year after.
Right. the key for this year is Patience , Patience , Patience.