We good.

Remy’s dressed out like he’s available tonight and going through pregame warm ups and shooting with everyone else.

He should be available going forward but I don't think he will play much tonight. He has looked decent moving around in warm-ups.

Just win

I think if we win tonight, we're a lock for the 3rd #1 seed. The locks: AZ and Zags. The others for a 1 seed: Purdew(lost), Tucky(lost), Auburn(lost). The only ones left in the 1 seed race are us and Baylor. We win, we should be the 3rd number 1.

geez...can't type tonite...

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Jesse already calling out the refs. Should be a fun night in the chat!

Yikes

They saying on pre-game that big man Jw for Baylor not only ligament damage but nerve damage and quite possibly looking at a two year re-hab if EVER coming back

OMG - - Lordy Sirmons calling game Lord help us

@BShark we good!

3 minutes left in the Duke game????

And both teams in the bonus…

Let's go #Jayhawks ❤💙

On espn news

@benshawks08 No need to foul in a 30-point game. Get on with it.

Everybody and I mean everybody gives KU their best and most fired up experience.

@Zabudda we're used to it

CB

Woo

Dave

Just a pass 😎

Nice

Do what we did in AFH

i like the pace so far. we look pretty good...

Come on

Great D

Ochai

Kicking ass!

Tech lost

Run it up

Playing loose❤

good start

When CB comes out 100% engaged this team is unreal.

@FarmerJayhawk said in Wackos at Waco Game Thread:

Great D

defense getting better

@Kcmatt7 the first one going down for him is always a good sign.

Daves foot not appearing to bother him. Wonder how they are treating it.

@approxinfinity his slip and fall scared me.

@approxinfinity drugs

Sad about Bobby

@Kcmatt7 :index_pointing_up:

@jayballer67 said in Wackos at Waco Game Thread:

@FarmerJayhawk said in Wackos at Waco Game Thread:

Great D

defense getting better

Catching up to the offense.

@jayballer67 looks like there’s something interesting going on with the help strategy on the guards. The double in the corner from Dave isn’t something we see much.

Let's face it Baylor without Cryer is an easier team to guard. They are guarding Flagler hard so far and you will see them adjust to get him involved now

They can only play 5 at a time

5 second callll?

@BeddieKU23 We’ve seen it as KU fans many times. Injury bug ruining a good season

Juan has to make those

TCU beat Tech, KU can clinch a share of the Big 12 with a win tonight!

Wow

CB!!

Great hustle

Yes at the table

KU is destroying Baylor on the glass early on.

Big dave

Remy's in

Before yes?

@Crimsonorblue22 said in Wackos at Waco Game Thread:

Before yes?

Both on the floor

What a lineup

Remy in

Dam -A / Martin sighting has been reported lol

@Kcmatt7 said in Wackos at Waco Game Thread:

What a lineup

Visible confusion dot gif

Was 44 in

Self buying minutes for harris

The pace of the game is ou t of sight

Our defense has been really I would say stiffling so far just so tight aggressive

@RockChalkinTexas Yes, Mitch in for Dave.

@BeddieKU23

Yes!!!

Expect Harris back in after 2 trips.

UT won by 1 at WVU🤦‍♀️

we came to play....

With Yes and Remy in together it could get even faster

Actually not shooting well and a couple of bad Ochai TOs, but dominating the glass and Baylor not making anything....

@jayballer67

Is he a Martian?

moving the ball well. Pace is a little amped up, but it's working

Wow I would’ve bet money Juan would go right back in

Bill not happy with Joe

Wow

hair matches the shoes I guess

@tundrahok said in Wackos at Waco Game Thread:

Bill not happy with Joe

With good reason - shot clock winding down and he passes it out to near half court...

Really mitch

Is on the road against a top 10 team really the time to do this?

We play TCU twice next week.

CB!

Defense good lord

WELCOME BACK REMY

Yay, Remy

REMY!

Good to see Remy out there fouling again!

Wow ticky tack

Dave jfc

Dave wtf

@FarmerJayhawk said in Wackos at Waco Game Thread:

Dave jfc

lol got that one back

Bad shot

Ochai taking some really bad shots...

To many easy ones

Alright that’s probably enough Remy for me for a bit

Wow

Finally

Crap

Bad shot

Harris wyd

I like Braun's mojo, but keep it in the flow

The turnover machine. Damn

Thamba with 8 of their 13 lol

Killer Braun

think we might need to slow up jussss a tad on chuckng up all these 3's

I know we’re up, but we haven’t looked great for a stretch now. Baylor beating themselves more than anything

We should be up 20?

Shooting a lot of 3s so far. Open ones but not great shots

Baylor is missing shots. We are taking bad shots... Launching quick 3s from very deep, when it's not clear they can defend inside...

This is kind of Big Dave's speed... just a little bit out of control all around the court

4 of 14 from 3 so far. Ouch

@DCHawker said in Wackos at Waco Game Thread:

Baylor is missing shots. We are taking bad shots... Launching quick 3s from very deep, when it's not clear they can defend inside...

ya I think someone anyone needs to probe isnisde a little bit

The dude with the green hair looks like a Chia pet

two more made KU threes and the score would feel more accurate

On the bright side, Och is 1/5 and is probably due to make a couple…

@Kcmatt7 said in Wackos at Waco Game Thread:

On the bright side, Och is 1/5 and is probably due to make a couple…

Missed 2 at least he never misses

Remy can't keep up with Akingo on defense

I’d rather sandpaper the ass of an alligator in a phone booth than watch that show

Scott doesn’t use Kendall Brown like he should. At least he hasn’t against us in two matchups.

Jalen 1-5 and no RBs. He needs to crash the boards and get cheap points...

thamba has used the entire rim on every shot

Sweet

Wow

Nice pass, Dave

Block out Thamba

Feed to Dave. We are so much more efficient offensively when we DON'T do that...

@FarmerJayhawk or get him into foul trouble.

Dave you gotta make that. Even Mitch has that shot

Junk lineup alert

Zach

Junk foul alert.

O boards killing us.
Thamba has a career night prolly

Score tied by halftime????

Not sure what Mitch is supposed to do there.

At some point we gotta make something

Trying to just appreciate Bill getting some guys extra time. Hard to do when we could lock ip the B12 tonight. But good to see

Bad lineup

That's on self

Remy and Braun coming back in. Wilson was out of control on that drive.

Lol that would’ve been two shots on the other end

Really shouldn’t have let them back in this one…

Lol wow a travel

that's a crap line up Bill

JCL doing things he shouldn't be doing didn't help

Self gambled badly on that lineup.

Dave has landed on his foot hard a couple times.

Jalen still has no RBs; Harris has 3...

@DanR he was really trying to heat up.

The shots will start falling and Baylor has already started.

@RockChalkinTexas said in Wackos at Waco Game Thread:

Dave has landed on his foot hard a couple times.

Not surprising he has a hard time staying up

we have screwed around and allowed them back into the game- -now they gaining confidence-- hold on to your shorts now

Braun and Och probably need to be on the floor the rest of the game unless we get another decent lead

Dave's also back in

@DanR at least one of them for sure.

@benshawks08 exponentially better at the same time though

Make something

Well we have crapped our pants now huh - - holy crap

10-0 run

Awful

Wilson has been bad tonight.

@tundrahok said in Wackos at Waco Game Thread:

10-0 run

Looking like our old selves

4-15 from 3....

Why is juan the one driving?

Wilson is taking the right shots, they just aren't falling

Och is going to have the fewest played minutes if the starters.

Remy tries to either score or assist every time he gets the ball. That is both a strength and a weakness. Hurts right now as he knocks off the rust.

Terrible call on Dave

@DanR he is just not a great 3pt shooter. Under .300 he needs to pump and drive more

weird substitution patterns seem to have slowed us down...

KJ time

Omg that's such a shit call

Guess you have to let him land

@DanR said in Wackos at Waco Game Thread:

Wilson is taking the right shots, they just aren't falling

He's also not playing defense or rebounding so he's not helping KU tonight.

Nice job Remy 😅

Only 2 fouls called on Baylor in 18 minutes.

I'm hoping this is one of the games Remy helps give us a W, but...

There we go

Simple layup missed

@stoptheflop said in Wackos at Waco Game Thread:

Only 2 fouls called on Baylor in 18 minutes.

We’ve chucked 3s to be fair

Dumb Och

Hey Jay, no one is really trying to block that shot. it's just called defense

Good lord och

@FarmerJayhawk said in Wackos at Waco Game Thread:

Dumb Och

Mouthing “I did not touch him”

In foul trouble

Remy with the weave makes me nervous

0 free throws for us..

SMALL SMALL lineup here at the end

Junk ass half

baylor with 2 or 3 fouls

I feared tied at half. Glad I was off....

about the last 6 minutes pure crap

Wow. That was bad

11 guys logged time that half.

Gave it to them. No rbs

@BeddieKU23 said in Wackos at Waco Game Thread:

Wow. That was bad

to say the obvious- -beyond bad

on a positive note if there is one - -good to see Remy back and looks like not doing to bad

Wow. Self not criticizing the three heavy shot selection.

We're leading at halftime AT baylor. Beat their asses for 13 minutes. I'll take that over the alternative.

+9 with Ochai and -8 with Remy.

Highs and lows rn

@DanR said in Wackos at Waco Game Thread:

We're leading at halftime AT baylor. Beat their asses for 13 minutes. I'll take that over the alternative.

problem is there is 20 minutes to a half - -there is no way in hell this should be a one point game - you play for 20 - -- not 13

hey, if you would've told me were up by 1 at half before the game,i woulda taken it. Let's get to running offense in the 2nd half, and start punishing them inside.

Och and Dave with 2 fouls.

Who else has fouls?

@Kcmatt7 said in Wackos at Waco Game Thread:

+9 with Ochai and -8 with Remy.

Highs and lows rn

Offense looks off with Remy in. Great individual, still hasn’t gelled. Makes sense after 7 missed games.

Hit the boards! Wilson

Big rebound advantage early - gone by halftime. Jalen a complete non-factor - only bucket was on the out of bounds save by CB.

@RockChalkinTexas 2 on Mitch, 1 on Remy, 1 on Yes

Wow we have accomplished my pet peeves. Missing easy inside shots and giving up easy ones.
We have Remy for our mid range game though but he's it.
Yesf wasn't in tune at all.
JWil will can some three's he was closer than the other missers.

As good as KU was the first 10 minutes, they were that bad the second 10. Rebounding margin almost even now after KU had a huge advantage to start the game. Baylor still hasn't made a 3 yet tonight.

@Jethro said in Wackos at Waco Game Thread:

hey, if you would've told me were up by 1 at half before the game,i woulda taken it. Let's get to running offense in the 2nd half, and start punishing them inside.

That's what killed the lead. KU needs to push tempo as much as possible like they did to start the game and built their 13 point lead.

When we only take off balance shots we look like a pile of confused poop.

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Wackos at Waco Game Thread:

As good as KU was the first 10 minutes, they were that bad the second 10. Rebounding margin almost even now after KU had a huge advantage to start the game. Baylor still hasn't made a 3 yet tonight.

Exactly we NOW only up 1 on the boards

@Texas-Hawk-10 The rhythm got broken with 11 players playing first half. I think we'll get back to punishing them 2nd half.

They know they can beat them because they did it before...should be their mantra

You can tell by his interview that Self is confident. No deer in the headlights look.

@Jethro said in Wackos at Waco Game Thread:

@Texas-Hawk-10 The rhythm got broken with 11 players playing first half. I think we'll get back to punishing them 2nd half.

Foul trouble was why. Self played all 4 of his 5's that half because Dave and Mitch picked 2 fouls each.

Jalen 2 points & 1 rebound . - -Dave has 7 rebounds - -4 points. -- KU 4-15 from the 3. - Any bets on how Bill will try forcing the ball inside to Dave to start in the 2nd half and everyone attending the game will know this lol

KU has yet to attempt a free throw - -but yet kind of understand when you launch 15 3's in the half

@jayballer67 Feed the post but don't FORCE it

@approxinfinity He told Wilson what he thought about him though during a time out

@Texas-Hawk-10

And now Och has tutu.

@jessejayhawk said in Wackos at Waco Game Thread:

@jayballer67 Feed the post but don't FORCE it

your right - -you can take it to the bank 1st time - - 2nd time down the floor they going to try anything to get Dave the ball down low - -problem is - Drew knows this

Not used to hearing "Sandstorm" without an F-KU chant attached to it.

FU chip gaines

Phew. We got beat there

glad that Bilas agrees with me...he must be monitoring us

Harris has been off. Where is the floater dude?

Wth harris

Get Jalen out

wilson...

Self is beyond pissed off right now

Wilson find your seat

Awful possessions to start

Great now self losing his shit

Way to join losing the lead

Jesse did warn us lol

Jeeze people chill out 18 minutes left

Nice job CB

We need to get out and run to score effectively. And, we need to RB to do that...

Bill getting some calls now

omg...we get a free throw- and drew freaks out...

Can't even make a lob

oops...lol. wrong play...hehehe

We need to attach the effing rim......

OCH

Och heard you @DCHawker

BANG

🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌

Good T?

Och a killer

@Crimsonorblue22 said in Wackos at Waco Game Thread:

Good T?

Bill doesn’t get bad ones

Falling to the floor is one of Dave's elite skills

BOOYAH

Och showing some leadership.

@DanR like his hustle

Och up to 16. That boss dunk Said it all

If he keeps leaning into this refuse to lose attitude we could have something.

@benshawks08 pissed off!

Dave with that awesome hustle there to set up an easy one

@Texas-Hawk-10
Lots of KU fans??

@DanR It's called low post play

Beautiful non sticky inside out basketball

Och says - - give me the dam ball - - DUNK YOU VEY MUCH - - Mr inside - - - & Mr outside

@jessejayhawk said in Wackos at Waco Game Thread:

@DanR It's called low post play

I LOL'd

Outside of thamba Baylor is 7-25 from the field

let's play confident, play within ourselves, and we'll win this, folks

Just need Wilson to wakey wakey

We need Dave and Jalen to put it in the hole

@RockChalkinTexas said in Wackos at Waco Game Thread:

@Texas-Hawk-10
Lots of KU fans??

Not as many as normal, but it's still a pretty vocal group. Baylor is a great atmosphere for a game and is a pretty knowledgeable fan base because of how long the women's program has been good.

Will I miss coach K? I don't think so.

@DanR lol!🤮🥰

@BeddieKU23 I wish he would just flow with the game instead of trying to be a hero

Stick to itness

There ya go Wilson.

Cry!

BOOM

NGL, I want Scott Drew's shoes tonight.

that's a tough defensive assignment for Dave. Sochan is way more mobile.

💪💪

It's ok, we'll take the 3 pts instead of 2 free throws.

Lol seriously Och is on such a different level

for a 5-10 guy, Dave plays tough

And one?

Hey guys I'm back

@FarmerJayhawk said in Wackos at Waco Game Thread:

And one?

Social has been the difference for Baylor tonight. He's the one getting KU into foul trouble tonight.

@FarmerJayhawk said in Wackos at Waco Game Thread:

And one?

Not sure how there were no fouls on that sequence. I saw like 4.

And gals

@BShark better be good

Dave is a fkn man

Dam what's Dave got now think like 8 points 10 rebounds - and diving on the floor for loose balls

@Crimsonorblue22 said in Wackos at Waco Game Thread:

@BShark better be good

My excuse? Elden Ring lmaooo

Gotta get some stops that pick and roll with sochan is a problem

@BShark where'd u go

@BShark I say guys all the time, but mean everyone

Thanks to TCU for the gift tonight.

angry ochai= me likey

@benshawks08 said in Wackos at Waco Game Thread:

@FarmerJayhawk said in Wackos at Waco Game Thread:

And one?

Not sure how there were no fouls on that sequence. I saw like 4.

Baylor doesn't have the ball that's why no fouls called lol

No ties though!

How is it that Jalen has 1 RB in 25 minutes???

@BeddieKU23 thankfully we’ve been pretty good this year when it turns to a trading buckets type game.

guys = a room full of women in the midwest

@BShark said in Wackos at Waco Game Thread:

Thanks to TCU for the gift tonight.

To me the gift is only if we win tonight. Then Bill can do all of the weird lineup stuff and rest Dave all next week

Dave has 10 boards already. Helps when you miss 5 shots from 1 foot

@BeddieKU23

True dat!

@BeddieKU23 at least he knows where he’s going to miss them.

@benshawks08 said in Wackos at Waco Game Thread:

@BeddieKU23 at least he knows where he’s going to miss them.

Gotta have the ku record for missed 1 footers

Play hard the next 4 minutes

Half of Dave's rebounds should be self-assists

@RockChalkinTexas said in Wackos at Waco Game Thread:

Play hard the next 4 minutes

That's a brucey line. Lol sorry had too

we have to contain highlighter.

@BeddieKU23 do we have a chart to track that?

OK, Jwill, you've lost even me at this point

Just checking j will as he tries to drive.

jwill was mugged...no call...

Major mugging there

Foul

Foul much

Lol foul on everyone

I swear Jwill has a "Tackle Me" sign taped to his back

Gotta flop?

These refs are no fan of continuation

Mugging

@FarmerJayhawk I still blame Chris beard for this strategy against us this year.

jwill was fouled 3 times on that drive...

Finally

There we go

Boom, Wilson back in the game

Dont think dave should be trying to thread a double

At least the refs are consistent in both ends lol

Wow

Remy sighting

Contact initiated by Baylor there.

@Kcmatt7 said in Wackos at Waco Game Thread:

At least the refs are consistent in both ends lol

Consistently awful

Remy back in...

mitch's 4th...

Everything a foul

Play someone who can match up with Sohan please

Out of position

Oh we are

Lol #44

Need to speed this back up

I’d like to see yes playing with the starters.

Drew is actually coaching tonight

Wow Mitch

Great job Och

TO

Drew is going to want to drag this down to each shot clock. Run Run Run

somebody stop the highlighter

Late whistle lol

Wow a foul call

Give us huge minutes KJ!

I'm sorry but this is one of those games where Mitch does not need to see the floor

they took away our followup, and called a foul. these refs suck...

@Kcmatt7 said in Wackos at Waco Game Thread:

Drew is actually coaching tonight

Ironically, I was impressed with Bruce last time.

Harris no points but 7 dimes

@approxinfinity I bet his family is there

77 pts should win this one.

Baylor has 9 more pts at the FT line...

@jayballer67 said in Wackos at Waco Game Thread:

I'm sorry but this is one of those games where Mitch does not need to see the floor

Well, he's going to foul out within a minute he's back in, so..

@Jethro said in Wackos at Waco Game Thread:

they took away our followup, and called a foul. these refs suck...

May have waited to see who got that rebound…

Fun game between two good teams.

@DCHawker we will get to bonus sooner this half

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@BShark said in Wackos at Waco Game Thread:

Fun game between two good teams.

Three if you count the refs.

@benshawks08 He said good...

@benshawks08 said in Wackos at Waco Game Thread:

@BShark said in Wackos at Waco Game Thread:

Fun game between two good teams.

Three if you count the refs.

Oh they are certainly not done making it about them

Baylor's staff reminding their players to watch for backdoor cuts and lobs to Ochai.

@tundrahok fair.

Only four turnovers

Crazy that Baylor is shooting much better from the field then us

@BeddieKU23 said in Wackos at Waco Game Thread:

Crazy that Baylor is shooting much better from the field then us

Rebounding like men tonight.

Come on och

Moving screen?????

Good grief that's an offensive foul

Baylor now flopping charges on offense?

KJ is the worst rebounder I've ever seen.

Went from an entertaining game to a stupid flop fest

Weak

Wow where's the call

pffft

Refs wanting to keep Baylor in this.

Refs have called two different halves

Defense

That's the shot we get..

That foul was caused by Jalen

Remy's D is not great, but that was not his fault

Every play is a foul

pure crap calls...

two whistles per possession, this is ridiculous

Make your damn FTs

@DanR Baylor making it that way by playing football instead of basketball.

Lifeless ft

This has been unwatchable basketball

@Kcmatt7 said in Wackos at Waco Game Thread:

This has been unwatchable basketball

Ref show

no question that bilas is biased

JALEN DAMMIT

Yank Wilson

Cb can't shoot ft

geez...

Jeez - basically missed 4 FTs and horrible shot by Jalen...

Just awful joe

We are 3-6 FTs - BU is 13-15.....

I can barely stand to watch this BS. Not basketball.

We will have many more coming down the stretch. Baylor literally just shoving and bumping every bit of movement.

Great effort but terrible offense

time out. Regroup. Slap braun.

Kendall brown is good.

Wtf cb

We’ve missed a lot of shots

OOOOOF

Aight D

Whatever

If we drive we are going to the line (or at least should be) every trip down the floor.

Jalen Wilson looks like playoff James Harden and refs calling it like that too.

Is the nine minute drought over yet?

@BeddieKU23 said in Wackos at Waco Game Thread:

Whatever

30% three point shooter Kendall Brown...

Their “tough d” means grabbing and hacking anyone who isn’t standing still. And sometimes even them in Dave’s case.

Do we have an answer for this?

@Zabudda said in Wackos at Waco Game Thread:

Do we have an answer for this?

Make some shots and we win

@BShark said in Wackos at Waco Game Thread:

@BeddieKU23 said in Wackos at Waco Game Thread:

Whatever

30% three point shooter Kendall Brown...

It's the defense that pissed me off there

Wilson has shot the ball at the line well in conf play. But I don't have any confidence he makes these

Harris Wilson cb are 6 of 25 from the field

Shooting 36%- just 26% on 3s - not gonna win many games....

Nobody cares about Chip

@DCHawker impressive we are even in this.

@BeddieKU23 said in Wackos at Waco Game Thread:

Wilson has shot the ball at the line well in conf play. But I don't have any confidence he makes these

Good call

4 points seems like a lot

Right on cue for Wilson to continue sucking

Careless

Cb has sucked tonight

So that was bad, should have grabbed the lead.

Bilas, the new sports information director for Baylor....

Good time out.

Get our sh*t together and pull this out

Where has Harris been?

Dang gotta get those to go

Looked like a travel by Braun but on replay, Nope.

Can't make a LAYUP

Dave has a double-double. Unfortunately, he can't sit any more.

@tundrahok he plays better tired.

That was a tough board by Juan

another head/face foul?

Wilson wtf man

@DanR fouled his elbow with his ear.

@DanR JW's face hit Mayer's arm...

Dave wtf

He slipped and it's a foul

Wilson clogging paint

Bailout call there.

Wilson's best contribution might be fouling out

Wilson is not there tonight

Dave has not made a bucket on an a feed to him...

🙌

Damn Och Iceman

OCH

CB’s dad died earlier this year? Did we know this?

@approxinfinity said in Wackos at Waco Game Thread:

CB’s dad died earlier this year? Did we know this?

news to me

@approxinfinity No, he meant Bill's Dad.

Ohhh

Thankful for Ochai lol

Whatever

Hmmmm

sigh

They could call that on every touch on the other end.

Refs aren't consistent

Baylor is making big shots and plays to give them some credit.

Zone

We’ve had no answer for the bigs driving.

why is dave guarding a guard at the free throw line?

Problem is more on the offensive end, IMO

@DanR hard to run offense when you have two hands on you at all times.

Sochan and thamba with 2x and 3x their avg

@benshawks08 said in Wackos at Waco Game Thread:

@DanR hard to run offense when you have two hands on you at all times.

This was the Texas strategy this year and it’s being copied.

7-25 from 3 :grimacing_face:

Gotta move the ball around faster

Must get video to show fran

@BeddieKU23 they’ve been great. Hit big shots, made nice passes, taken care of the ball.

Desperation time

he sat dejuan...going with remy...

lightest foul of the night

Any see Wilson try to make a cut just ten. Literally hugged by his man.

That’ll do it

we're down 1 possession...come on!

ok...2

Can't make a dunk

let's examine that one foul

Awful cb showed up

CB there is a gym in the downstairs of your apartment. Shoot some free throws

Only paid one ref

Jesus Remy

WTF

BULLSHIT

shocked that bank didn't drop

Och bro you gotta do it yourself here

turning point/missed bank

Hold em

Ofc

making all the shots

Flagler is pretty good

Sharpie

Och misses a layup he could have easily dunked

Not our night

They can run end of clock plays - we can't....

Now we become a Texas fan Monday night

You lose games like this when you can't shoot

you just can't expect Och & Braun to carry this team game after game after game

@BeddieKU23 wasted em all on the wildcats.

From 16-4 lead to a 10 or so point loss...

What a poor shooting night.

35% from the field is just unacceptable

Yeah we just sucked from 3

Och missed his what 10th 3

Good Bill Self loss tonight. Fucked around in the first half and blew a double digit lead.

Remy going to come back just in time to ruin the season

9 misses for och from 3

everyone penciled this one is as an L, but when you can't hit a shot you aint got a shot

@Kcmatt7

Just a waste of playing him. He does not fit

Game was lost at the 3 point line. A bit of regression after that KSU performance.

Jalen 2-10 and just 3 RBs. No real help from bench to make up for it...

He didn't throw it in to remy

@Kcmatt7 the optimist in me says the goal was to get him ready to actually contribute in March. But KU was NOT good with Remy in. The weird rotations seemed to mess with what we’d been getting from the bench too. Where’d yes go?

@benshawks08 said in Wackos at Waco Game Thread:

@Kcmatt7 the optimist in me says the goal was to get him ready to actually contribute in March. But KU was NOT good with Remy in. The weird rotations seemed to mess with what we’d been getting from the bench too. Where’d yes go?

All of yes minutes went to a selfish player

@BeddieKU23 he dribbles SOOOO much.

Gonna put 50 on us this half

We are going to beat any bad teams we play in the tournament but we can certainly win or lose against a good one.

so help me understand - - we went from wishing/wanting to be able to get Remy back - to Remy costing us the game. - - Got it.

Whoever said 77 won it. You should cursed Baylor from getting there

At least we stay a 1 seed after that Zona loss

Another brick

bilas is wetting himself....

There’s a reason Baylor was the favorite in this one.

Rest up for a hell of a week to come.

RCJH

❤💙

Anything but a terrible shooting night and we win.

No one seed team in our uni's this game. We played hard but had no clutch performers.

@benshawks08 said in Wackos at Waco Game Thread:

Anything but a terrible shooting night and we win.

Gotta step up for sure.

🙏 for 🇺🇦 and Svi's family and friends.

All the confidence I had gained in this team since Feb. 1 went out the window tonight.

Last 26 minutes with Remy on the floor we are -29.

One week to figure this shit out.

@RockChalkinTexas said in Wackos at Waco Game Thread:

🙏 for 🇺🇦 and Svi's family and friends.

Thank you and what a scary thing for Svi.

@Kcmatt7 said in Wackos at Waco Game Thread:

All the confidence I had gained in this team since Feb. 1 went out the window tonight.

Last 26 minutes with Remy on the floor we are -29.

One week to figure this shit out.

That’s scary.

Well look at it this way I guess - -terrible Saturday. - NU 2 , 3 , 4 , 5 , 6 , & 9 ranked teams all lost today

@jayballer67 tough to win on the road.

@jayballer67 bad start for the zags too.

@benshawks08 said in Wackos at Waco Game Thread:

@jayballer67 bad start for the zags too.

just bad all over. we still in the drivers seat. - -I wouldn't be THAT surprised if Texas beats Baylor Monday night

Really it was just a night when we couldn't make layups and missed 21 threes.
Its not gonna happen again likely.

Back to rooting for Ukraine in something that truly matters

Starters were 20-62. One of those messed up days

@Kcmatt7 said in Wackos at Waco Game Thread:

All the confidence I had gained in this team since Feb. 1 went out the window tonight.

Last 26 minutes with Remy on the floor we are -29.

One week to figure this shit out.

Remy Martin wasn't the issue tonight. Thamba, Sochan, and Brown killed KU for 44 points, almost all of them in the paint and drew a crap ton of fouls on KU. Jalen Wilson was fucking terrible tonight and should not have played 38 minutes. Wilson needs to learn how to defend the pick and roll in a hurry because he left his teammates out to dry way too many times by leaving the roller and forcing the help defender to be the only guy defending one of their bigs rolling to the basket.

@jayballer67 said in Wackos at Waco Game Thread:

so help me understand - - we went from wishing/wanting to be able to get Remy back - to Remy costing us the game. - - Got it.

Remy didn't cost KU this game. Jalen Wilson playing 38 minutes with his head up his ass was the biggest culprit tonight.

Zags going to lose. Win tonight would have put us in the drivers seat for the #1 overall seed.

Well, we lost. Ok. That sucks,
But, it really seemed like a bad shooting night did us in.
I saw a ton of effort across the board. A few quick triggers here and there, but not horrendous play.
Even Big Dave was great on the boards, just couldn’t make a layup, as usual.
Surprise! The return of The Dribbler. I still think he helps us at some point.
More KJ!!!

@Kcmatt7 We would've joined the conversation for the overall number 1 seed, I'm sure. As it is, on a national level, the loss didn't hurt us. I still think we're the 3rd number 1 seed. Lunardi is saying that Auburn falls to a 2, and Baylor moves up to a 1 seed.

We still may be the in the conversation for a #1 seed, but we need to play better in the next 3 games - none anything close to a sure thing. Right now, this sure doesn't look or feel like a #1 seed team. There have been too many instances of long stretches of just bad basketball this year. We gave up 49 to the Bears in the second half - a handful of times we've given up 50 or close thereto in a half. We gave up 67 points in the last 26 minutes (+8 seconds) of the game - outscored 67-44 over that stretch. Against a team that basically has 6-1/2 players at right now. Got dominated in the paint after dominating the boards early. Allowed BU to shoot well over 50% in the second half.

Just difficult to see how this team can win 3-4 games in a row against quality competition, let alone 6. We just haven't demonstrated that we are capable of doing that. Got whupped by UK, split with Baylor and TTU. Hope for a split with with UT. Is a sweep of TCU likely? An early exit seems at least as likely, if not more so, than a deep run. Would love to be wrong about that....

Lost on the road to a top 10 team that had every reason to be motivated. Time to move on. Starters couldn't piss in any ocean

Remy was an issue last night. He does very little that's actually positive. Pounds the ball and lost on defense. But getting 0 points from Harris and Jalen having his worst game in conference play were bigger issues due to the minutes they played

9 points and 1 rebound in 27 bench minutes last night. 0 assists, 0 steals, 0 blocks

When we cannot stop inside scoring and also get beat at our own game of fast breaking it's a 20 plus point loss scenario or a huge blowout if the other teams hits 40% from three. Thank the Baylor Bears for their piss poor shooting which kept their side of the ledger below 100 pts.

Och got 27 and didn't even have a good shooting night. He just needed help and got very little

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Wackos at Waco Game Thread:

@jayballer67 said in Wackos at Waco Game Thread:

so help me understand - - we went from wishing/wanting to be able to get Remy back - to Remy costing us the game. - - Got it.

Remy didn't cost KU this game. Jalen Wilson playing 38 minutes with his head up his ass was the biggest culprit tonight.

Oh I agree with you. It's just some others all I heard read was how we needed Remy back how it would really help , & tonight we got him back and I hear about how he cost us the game and he did nothing - - just lloking for reasoning of double standards - either you want him back or you don't. - Like you said and I agree - - it wasn't him that cost us this game - -far from it

I'm on record with I didn't want him back and it certainly messed with Yesufu that he was back. That was noticeable

I’ll say it again even though it will make me sound like a sourpuss: I don’t like the officiating approach in the B12 this season.

The amount of contact allowed effectively levels the playing field for teams that struggle to shoot and does a favor for teams that have size inside and teams that lack depth.

Baylor doesn’t struggle to shoot. They are legit. But our limited inside game was amplified and their injuries were mitigated.

I know I know. Teams have to adapt. But habituation to this style could work against B12 teams in the tourney with officiating crews from other conferences.

I would have preferred Remy not been the first guard off the bench. Keep working the rotations and 7-8 man squad we’ve been running and then fit him in later in the half or game if needed or if score allowed. Maybe self thought the early blitz was enough but I doubt it. He said as much at halftime admitting defense wasn’t actually good to start Baylor just missed shots.

@BeddieKU23 said in Wackos at Waco Game Thread:

I'm on record with I didn't want him back and it certainly messed with Yesufu that he was back. That was noticeable

He’s back, which didn’t seem like a difficult prediction.

So, how do we put his skills to use? That’s what a good coach should be able to figure out. Highlight the positives, minimize the negatives.

His positives? Scoring, skill, confidence, making plays outta nothing, quickness.
His negatives? Not understanding how to run the offense, which leads to his constant dribbling, and some aspects of his defense — he seems to have the motivation at times at least.

Put him off ball and call it a day.

@BeddieKU23 said in Wackos at Waco Game Thread:

I'm on record with I didn't want him back and it certainly messed with Yesufu that he was back. That was noticeable

It didn't mess with Yesufu. Remy being back had nothing to with Yesufu still not understanding how to guard in Self's defense. It may not have visible on TV, but there were multiple times in Yesufu's limited minutes that he was badly out of position on defense and had to have others point to where he should've been. Same on offense as well. He was in Ochai's spot several times and had Ochai and Harris having to direct him where to be on the floor on offense.

I know people want to shit on Remy for his flaws and give Yesufu a pass, but Yesufu still doesn't know the system well enough on either end to be given extended minutes and isn't a good enough player to overcome not knowing the offense or defense yet. People here generally accept it takes multiple years for a PG to learn and operate Self's system at a reasonably high level. Harris is in his third year running the system whereas Remy and Yesufu are each in their first year.

Remy has been a bust here, no question about that, but I'll never understand why people think Yesufu was going to come in and duplicate his two best games at Drake on a nightly basis while ignoring that he wasn't a starter until an injury, and was an inconsistently high volume shooter who had quite a few games last year where he took more shots than he had points.

@Texas-Hawk-10 yesefus first minutes on the floor were with Remy and Mitch. That is a much different crew than he’s been running with. He’s been at his best with Harris on the floor as a 2 that can give Och or Braun enough of a breather without too big of a drop off because of his ability to pressure on the ball and push tempo. He did t get an opportunity to do either of those things because he wasn’t in his regular rotation.

I totally agree he’s no savior or some underutilized superstar but will say playing with Remy definitely disrupted his play. Yes is good in the same way that Zach is good. Give them a simple assignment and they can execute if it’s within their athletic ability. He’s the only guard in this team with a shot at keeping either of Baylor quick guards out of the paint but spent most of his time on the bench because too much was asked of him in his first run on the floor.

@benshawks08 Stop trying to make excuses for Yesufu. You just said he's at his best at the 2 and then talked about not being used to playing with Remy and Mitch? Who do you think he's playing with on the 2nd unit in practice? He's spent more time playing with those two than he has with the starters so that's a weak excuse on your part. Yesufu rarely gets extended minutes because he doesn't know what he's doing on tge floor most of the regardless if he's running with the 1's or 2's.

Can someone please show me hard evidence that Yesufu is actually consistently a good defender at the Big 12 level instead of just talking about his athleticism giving him the abilityto stay in front of defenders because Yesufu gets blown by on the regular. There's a reason advanced numbers have Yesufu as one of KU's worst overall players this year.

He's an inconsistent player at best and doesn't offer near the ceiling that Remy does which is why Self wants to get Remy going.

@Texas-Hawk-10 yes doesn’t get blown by on straight line drives like the Remy or Harris even. I don’t see practice. I watch games. And in games yes is best when playing with Harris and as a change of pace guard. That’s not how he was used on Saturday. Not an excuse for him. Just the facts. I’m literally saying he’s not an elite player. He can’t do more than one or two things well. Remy does more things well as an individual but is a total disruption to the flow of the team. Yes has shown an ability to fit in on the floor that Remy hasn’t mostly because he’s been injured and partly because he’s a great individual player that hasn’t had the opportunity to learn to play as a team player.

If Remy can become a team player in the next three games then yeah he’s the superior option for a tournament run. But I have my doubts that can reallly happen and in that case I’d rather keep the rotation that showed us the best ball this team has played all season. That includes yes playing limited minutes mostly at the two and extremely briefly at the one in very specific situations. That does leave Harris playing 35 plus a game but that’s just what it is for this team to be it’s best. What has Remy done to make you think he is having a positive impact on this team?

Anytime we lose I scream about something.

But this game... in my opinion... showed a lot more bright than dim. I thought that was perhaps the best beginning we've had all year.

I thought our guys hustled and for most of the game, played a higher level defense than typical. I thought they showed toughness.

I took a smile away from this game and think we could do well moving forward.

I'm not expecting more than is realistic from this team. Hate to admit I agree with him... but I go pretty much with the Jay Bilas assessment. We are just a little bit below being a title contender at this point. If things improve, we could be a contender.

It all starts with effort and I'm giving our fellas high marks for their effort. Let's just hope they have enough in their tanks to make it through the next 3 games.

@drgnslayr said in Wackos at Waco Game Thread:

Anytime we lose I scream about something.

But this game... in my opinion... showed a lot more bright than dim. I thought that was perhaps the best beginning we've had all year.

I thought our guys hustled and for most of the game, played a higher level defense than typical. I thought they showed toughness.

I took a smile away from this game and think we could do well moving forward.

I'm not expecting more than is realistic from this team. Hate to admit I agree with him... but I go pretty much with the Jay Bilas assessment. We are just a little bit below being a title contender at this point. If things improve, we could be a contender.

It all starts with effort and I'm giving our fellas high marks for their effort. Let's just hope they have enough in their tanks to make it through the next 3 games.

Boy I'll tell you what , I agree with you on how ew got after it defensively for a pretty decent stretch. Looked real aggressive, I thought that was as about as good as I had seen from them defensively this year ,had some let down later but in a way understandable s that takes a lot out of you playing that hard - -which in turn can effect the offensive end your legs get tired - your shots start coming up short.

Ya it stinks we lost but in the over all grand scheme of things I don't feel we hurt ourselves that bad. I stil think actually I think we win out Conference wise and take the title , and Joey Brackets said it didn't effect our # 1 seed because of all the other upsets. just got to try and keep getting better. - I think what hurt us more then anything was Jalen not showing up. - -Och was Och obviously -- -Christan had a good game -Dave was solid - if Jlen could of contributed would of been a different story

Think I saw Baylor had a 22-7 edge in fast break points. Makes sense since we had offensive offense shooting from the perimeter. Long boards lead to easier transition opportunities.

I was not able to watch the game, but I've been seeing some scuttlebutt about some of the questionable line-ups Bill put on the floor. Apologies if this has already been discussed ad nauseum in the above thread, but was foul trouble a culprit in some of the relief unit configurations or was this just "return of the Bill" at inopportune times? (Apologies to Mark Morrison).

@tis4tim said in Wackos at Waco Game Thread:

I was not able to watch the game, but I've been seeing some scuttlebutt about some of the questionable line-ups Bill put on the floor. Apologies if this has already been discussed ad nauseum in the above thread, but was foul trouble a culprit in some of the relief unit configurations or was this just "return of the Bill" at inopportune times? (Apologies to Mark Morrison).

Foul trouble hit for Och & Mitch in the first half. CB might have also had 2. The refs got special in the 2nd half on both sides for a while destroying all flow and sanity for those watching.

KU had a sizeable lead for much of the first half (13 points at multiple times) then some bizarre lineups erased the lead in 3 minutes from the 5 and change mark to the 2 and change mark.

At one point in the first half the lineup combination was not what you'd call good use of your substitutions.

@tis4tim The only subbing I took issue with was the FIRST subs. We'd built a decent lead early based off some bad shooting from Baylor. But we hadn't quite demoralized them yet. Bill went with Mitch, Yes, and Remy for Dave, Harris, and Och or Braun (don't remember which but I think it was Och). There was a significant let down when this group came in and while Remy did make a three out of nothing, and maybe a lay up in that stretch as well, the cohesion of the offense was visibly disrupted.

I think we need to face it that our bench just isn't as good as our starters at basically every position. So in my opinion, substitutions need to be super calculated. Try to keep 3-4 starters on the floor at a time and allow the bench players to fit in as best as possible without disrupting the core group. I'm sure the schedule led to Bill hoping he could steal as many minutes from the bench as possible especially after the quick start, but once we let them back in it, they beat us all over the court. Actually impressive we kept it close after that huge momentum swing.

Wilson sucking and getting 38 minutes also sucked but I'm not sure who else we can really put at the 4 and expect them to rebound the way we know he can (obviously he didn't this game...).

@benshawks08 coach said today there's probably something he'd go back and change. I'm pretty sure it would be that first substitution

@benshawks08

I agree... thought we substituted too soon. I think it was planned before the game to keep our guys rested. it seems like our strong start surprised Self! we were playing at a clip where we possibly could have gone up by 20. Then maybe ease in the bench instead of wholesale changes. i think we focused a little too much on having 4 games in a short time period.

Thanks @BeddieKU23, @benshawks08, @Crimsonorblue22 and @drgnslayr. Appreciate the summary.

To many at a time!

On to the next one. We win the next 3, and we're a number 1 seed.