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Yes please.

Assistant coaches: Case, Morris Twins

Director of Basketball Operations Tyshawn Taylor

Special Assistant to the head coach Jalen Coleman-Lands

@BShark said in Future KU Assistant Coaches Marcus and Markieff Morris:

Yes please.

Is this a thing?

@tis4tim they tweeted about wanting to coach after they retire last night

@Kcmatt7 said in Future KU Assistant Coaches Marcus and Markieff Morris:

@tis4tim they tweeted about wanting to coach after they retire last night

This ^

Bill will help get them started even if it isn't on the KU staff tbh.

@Kcmatt7 said in Future KU Assistant Coaches Marcus and Markieff Morris:

@tis4tim they tweeted about wanting to coach after they retire last night

Gotcha. I'm not on most of those media platforms so I have no idea what's going on and I have no friends. :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

Would be pretty funny if the Morrii ended up with a co-head coaching position down the road a few years.

Along w/Brady? Spells trouble.

Be cool to have all lil future Jayhawk players, get Trob too.

I think the Morris twins would be great as coaches. They have had the opportunity to play in a lot of different systems in the pros, so they know the game better than most. I think they could do well with player development because they arrived at KU still needing some polish, and definitely not looking like they would be 10 year pros. They would relate well to younger guys, I think, as well.

They have been stars (in college), role players, starters, bench guys, etc., so they could relate to just about any player situation because they have experienced it. And they know what it takes to move up and down that scale.

Marcus will make over $100M in his career by the time its all said and done. Kieff probably makes $50M+, so they each have different experiences in even the pros that make them relatable. Kieff also has a championship ring, which always looks good.

@tis4tim you don't count us?

@justanotherfan I 100% want them on the KU bench if they are serious about it.

None of our assistant coaches that we have now are going nowere

@JAYHAWKFAN214 said in Future KU Assistant Coaches Marcus and Markieff Morris:

None of our assistant coaches that we have now are going nowere

Townsend FOR SURE could be going somewhere if the NCAA ruling comes down against us

@jayballer67

@jayballer67 said in Future KU Assistant Coaches Marcus and Markieff Morris:

@JAYHAWKFAN214 said in Future KU Assistant Coaches Marcus and Markieff Morris:

None of our assistant coaches that we have now are going nowere

Townsend FOR SURE could be going somewhere if the NCAA ruling comes down against us

Townsend and Robert Will both be back next year with new contracts

@JAYHAWKFAN214 said in Future KU Assistant Coaches Marcus and Markieff Morris:

@jayballer67 said in Future KU Assistant Coaches Marcus and Markieff Morris:

@JAYHAWKFAN214 said in Future KU Assistant Coaches Marcus and Markieff Morris:

None of our assistant coaches that we have now are going nowere

Townsend FOR SURE could be going somewhere if the NCAA ruling comes down against us

Townsend and Robert Will both be back next year with new contracts

Townsend may not voluntarily leave KU, but the NCAA may hit him with a show-cause and force him out.

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Future KU Assistant Coaches Marcus and Markieff Morris:

@JAYHAWKFAN214 said in Future KU Assistant Coaches Marcus and Markieff Morris:

@jayballer67 said in Future KU Assistant Coaches Marcus and Markieff Morris:

@JAYHAWKFAN214 said in Future KU Assistant Coaches Marcus and Markieff Morris:

None of our assistant coaches that we have now are going nowere

Townsend FOR SURE could be going somewhere if the NCAA ruling comes down against us

Townsend and Robert Will both be back next year with new contracts

Townsend may not voluntarily leave KU, but the NCAA may hit him with a show-cause and force him out.

that's exactly what I'm talking about

@JAYHAWKFAN214 said in Future KU Assistant Coaches Marcus and Markieff Morris:

@jayballer67 said in Future KU Assistant Coaches Marcus and Markieff Morris:

@JAYHAWKFAN214 said in Future KU Assistant Coaches Marcus and Markieff Morris:

None of our assistant coaches that we have now are going nowere

Townsend FOR SURE could be going somewhere if the NCAA ruling comes down against us

Townsend and Robert Will both be back next year with new contracts

wouldn't count on it

@jayballer67 said in Future KU Assistant Coaches Marcus and Markieff Morris:

@JAYHAWKFAN214 said in Future KU Assistant Coaches Marcus and Markieff Morris:

@jayballer67 said in Future KU Assistant Coaches Marcus and Markieff Morris:

@JAYHAWKFAN214 said in Future KU Assistant Coaches Marcus and Markieff Morris:

None of our assistant coaches that we have now are going nowere

Townsend FOR SURE could be going somewhere if the NCAA ruling comes down against us

Townsend and Robert Will both be back next year with new contracts

wouldn't count on it

There's already been a report about they are working on their new contract And it's not officially yet when the contracts will be done but they will be done

@JAYHAWKFAN214 said in Future KU Assistant Coaches Marcus and Markieff Morris:

@jayballer67 said in Future KU Assistant Coaches Marcus and Markieff Morris:

@JAYHAWKFAN214 said in Future KU Assistant Coaches Marcus and Markieff Morris:

@jayballer67 said in Future KU Assistant Coaches Marcus and Markieff Morris:

@JAYHAWKFAN214 said in Future KU Assistant Coaches Marcus and Markieff Morris:

None of our assistant coaches that we have now are going nowere

Townsend FOR SURE could be going somewhere if the NCAA ruling comes down against us

Townsend and Robert Will both be back next year with new contracts

wouldn't count on it

There's already been a report about they are working on their new contract And it's not officially yet when the contracts will be done but they will be done

If they are found in violation telling you he will be gone

@JAYHAWKFAN214 said in Future KU Assistant Coaches Marcus and Markieff Morris:

@jayballer67 said in Future KU Assistant Coaches Marcus and Markieff Morris:

@JAYHAWKFAN214 said in Future KU Assistant Coaches Marcus and Markieff Morris:

@jayballer67 said in Future KU Assistant Coaches Marcus and Markieff Morris:

@JAYHAWKFAN214 said in Future KU Assistant Coaches Marcus and Markieff Morris:

None of our assistant coaches that we have now are going nowere

Townsend FOR SURE could be going somewhere if the NCAA ruling comes down against us

Townsend and Robert Will both be back next year with new contracts

wouldn't count on it

There's already been a report about they are working on their new contract And it's not officially yet when the contracts will be done but they will be done

Nobody is arguing with you about those two receiving contract extensions. That also doesn't change that the IARP decision could very possibly include a show-cause label for Kurtis Townsend which means he would not be able to coach at KU, or any other NCAA member school, for the duration of that show-cause penalty. These are not mutually exclusive things. Townsend can both receive an extension from KU and still get hit with a show-cause penalty prohibiting him from coaching for a period of time at KU.

Show cause does not mean he cannot work at KU or anywhere. Just means school has to demonstrate how they will ensure compliance with any restrictions imposed, and, if new violations are committed, the school would get blasted even if they didn't know.

That said, almost all coaches do lose their jobs because the restrictions are very limiting, and because the penalties for new violations are so draconian.

Looking at instances of coaches getting show causes, I still don't see the types of violations in KU's case that would warrant one.

It still comes down to whether KU can be required to supervise employees of Adidas due to imputed agency arising out of alleged status as a booster. Two levels of imputed status, all arising out of relationships ubiquitous in college athletics. All other cases involve actual conduct by school employees; KU's is the only one where no money flowed through a school employee or with the employee's knowledge.

@mayjay Go look at what NC State got from the IARP. KU's ruling is likely to be very similar to that case because the NC State case had a lot in common with KU's case. There were two show-cause penalties handed out in that case. Don't be shocked if both Self and Townsend get show-cause penalties once that ruling comes down.

@Texas-Hawk-10 Again, NCState employees were actively involved.

@Texas-Hawk-10 To wit:

"The primary Level I violation centered on a $40,000 payment that was accepted and delivered to Smith’s family from Adidas through Early to secure Smith’s commitment to the University.

"Other Level I violations included knowing involvement in allowing additional complimentary admissions eligibility as well as Gottfried’s failure to oversee the actions of Early, and Early’s failure to cooperate with the investigation."

Early was assistant head coach.

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Future KU Assistant Coaches Marcus and Markieff Morris:

@mayjay Go look at what NC State got from the IARP. KU's ruling is likely to be very similar to that case because the NC State case had a lot in common with KU's case. There were two show-cause penalties handed out in that case. Don't be shocked if both Self and Townsend get show-cause penalties once that ruling comes down.

I fully expect for both to get show Cause and I fully expect Townsend t be let go - forced out whatever you want to call it. I think some people are more naive or just don't want to think about it- -and then when IT DOES happen they gonna be like -wait umm no - -uh what ? - -I think Townsend will be the one who between him and Coach will be dealt the worst

You do know @mayjay was a judge? Certainly not naive!

@jayballer67 Please show me any actual evidence of anyone on the KU staff handling money or arranging adidas payments.

Go ahead...look everywhere. I will wait.

Anyway I was only pointing out first, a show cause does not require termination, and second, how the NCSt case was not similar to ours. If we get hit for something else (like doing something stupid a la L Brown not cooperating in the investigations for both his KU and UCLA violations) that would be a different story.

@mayjay said in Future KU Assistant Coaches Marcus and Markieff Morris:

@jayballer67 Please show me any actual evidence of anyone on the KU staff handling money or arranging adidas payments.

Go ahead...look everywhere. I will wait.

Anyway I was only pointing out first, a show cause does not require termination, and second, how the NCSt case was not similar to ours. If we get hit for something else (like doing something stupid a la L Brown not cooperating in the investigations for both his KU and UCLA violations) that would be a different story.

not up to me to show - - I'm not the one they are investigating-- you go ahead and wait lol, cause afterall weight is what broke the wagon down. Then when Townsend is let go holla

@jayballer67 Great reply. If you are so sure, it should not be hard to identify just one thing. One.

@mayjay said in Future KU Assistant Coaches Marcus and Markieff Morris:

@jayballer67 Great reply. If you are so sure, it should not be hard to identify just one thing. One.

Look I'm not going to get into some grade school pissing contest ovr this. just sit back and see how it plays out- it's crazy I don't have the time to keep going back and forth, I have more important things to worry about other then seeing who is going to get the last word in about this -w shall see - If he is guilty then he deserves to walk unless you want to fall into the same area as people like to talk smack on other institutions when they are under investigation. - If you think KU is squeaky clean in this thing then I'm sorry and good luck - we might maybe get lucky and not get caught doubtful but maybe - -anyways I'm done likeI said I'm not doing this- -Now if you feel the need to continue - -you knock yourself out- -but not with me . -You have expressed your opinion and to that I say thanks. - -Have a great night

Went to the Warriors game. Coach Pop was honored. Couldn't help but wonder if Self ends up there after all this nonsense plays out.

@bskeet said in Future KU Assistant Coaches Marcus and Markieff Morris:

Went to the Warriors game. Coach Pop was honored. Couldn't help but wonder if Self ends up there after all this nonsense plays out.

No bill self is not going to the San Antonio Spurs

Guilty until proven guilty or innocent after an investigation as long as I can remember seeing eon go on. Even though there have been many billable hours paid so far it's in the hands of an impartial panel. Of course it isn't impartial if you are protecting the field from an alleged bad actor's actions.
I don't know all the facts and my earnest wish that KU be exonerated disqualifies me as an arbiter. I just cannot see the NCAA leaders admitting they are wrong.

jordan guskey @jordanguskey 32m
new #kuball has signed kurtis townsend , norm roberts and jeremy case all to new deals . they are each one year rolling term contracts that renew on july 1.

@JAYHAWKFAN214 said in Future KU Assistant Coaches Marcus and Markieff Morris:

jordan guskey @jordanguskey 32m
new #kuball has signed kurtis townsend , norm roberts and jeremy case all to new deals . they are each one year rolling term contracts that renew on july 1.

Interesting contract structure.