Gonzaga and Arkansas up and down so far as expected
Not sure either team runs plays. Just hero ball to the open guy
Gonzaga definitely runs plays
The charge call has to change in the future.
Gonzaga has a lot of weapons - a lot of ways to score. Pressure and physicality can disrupt them, but that likely leads to a foul differential, which is what's happening here...
Hogs not going away. Could be fun
I hope the Zags lose because I don't want to see Timmy any more.
Game definitely at Hogs tempo. Will see if that can sustain in the second half...
WOO PIG
Sure would be nice wouldn't it by some chance Arkansas beat Gonzaga and Tech beat Duke.- - Plus getting KU to the final 4 and have half the final 4 bracket ? - -would be sweet.
@Jethro said in Sweet 16 Chat:
I hope the Zags lose because I don't want to see Timmy any more.
me neither- -him or that toothpick
Can't wait to see embiid vs toothpick
Does anyone get away with more travels than Timme?
@Kcmatt7 said in Sweet 16 Chat:
Does anyone get away with more travels than Timme?
Defenders should let Timmy make that spin, and meet him at the rim. Let him go and then block his shot.
Gonzaga getting Duke calls. - for one Timme blatant walk and announcers say oh no great move what the hell you talking about -i that wasn't a pure walk then I'm the Pope. - -Both halves know refs getting Gonzaga into the bonus really early
Folks are dumping all over Timme, but would love to have him as a Jayhawk. Heckuva college ballplayer...
@Crimsonorblue22 said in Sweet 16 Chat:
Can't wait to see embiid vs toothpick
ya that will be funny. - Jo Jo snap him in half
@jayballer67 What name will you be using as Pope? š
Holy crap that was a charge
@mayjay said in Sweet 16 Chat:
@jayballer67 What name will you be using as Pope? š
Jerry Pope the 3rd lol
Zags in the bonus with almost 10 minutes left - could end up being the difference in the game...
Hogs just look like the better team rn. Winning every 50-50 ball. Better defensive game plan.
On the other hand, maybe the 4th on Holmgren this early will be....
Massive foul
Bout dam time they called something ON Gonzga - -HUGE call on twiggy
Wish CB would learn from that play - take it at the defender - initiate the contact instead of trying to lean away from it....
@DCHawker said in Sweet 16 Chat:
Wish CB would learn from that play - take it at the defender - initiate the contact instead of trying to lean away from it....
I've always heard on a shot blocker an elite shot blocker like that - -you got to take it right to him drive into his chest
Timme can't hit a layup
Tiptoe Timmy...
Hog plan seems to be just be free. And ffs, call a travel on timme on that shuffle
Timme and Holmgren have been the entire Zags offense and defense so far...
refs trying hard to keep Gonzaga in the game: 18 fouls on the hogs, 10 on the dogs.
stick out
@stoptheflop said in Sweet 16 Chat:
refs trying hard to keep Gonzaga in the game: 18 fouls on the hogs, 10 on the dogs.
probably about right, maybe should be a few more for both teams
Hogs should double Timme every time and see if anyone else can beat them...
mutual wasted possessions
Actually, with this little time left, let Timme take his 2 pt shots and just don't foul him...
if they double timme front and back it would work better
SOOOOOO EEEE
Have you noticed how Rafferty & Hill are trying so hard to pull Gonzaga to win My GOD - - -Gonzaga in TROUBLE YIPPEE
Arkansas has knocked off some big dogs this year
I really thought this was the Zags year
Everything they can to give Gonzaga this game
good foul even though he made it
obviously i have the sound off
Not shooting fouls but they reset the shot clock...
yuge rebound
Wow. Arkansas so tough on rebounding.
If Hogs make their FTs...
50/50 that Arkansas holds onto the lead through the last 45 sec
Still is going to come down to FTs...
If Michigan could make a layup they'd be up 10
Announcers alway talk about what a trailing team has to do. These are some of the best in the business.
of course, arkansas could just jack a three
They will try to shoot free throws. Arkansas will not take another shot from the field.
Timme hooked an arm soon the defender but announcers are calling for a foul on the defender? š¤
- around the defender
That easily could have been a 4 pt play...
Hogs still 1-1. So still have to make a FT...
still 50/50
i didn't have Gonzaga going past the S16 in any bracket I did.
I like that ball in strategy. Better than Ochai running back and forth
Huge FT
Arkansas looks a lot more athletic than I realized
Dumb
Few gonna drink
I can go back to not like Arkansas tomorrow!
I want to see tears but I want to switch the channel
Hope the coach keeps his shirt on ... for the children
Wow
All right, Texas Tech. Do your thing.
What's that? Still 0 titles in Spokane for the Charmin Zags? Tough scene.
Man I feel sooooo bad for Gonzaga - - pssssssssssssssssssssst
they sitting this up for Duke title huh lol -- - -Come on Tech
I called it. I shoulda bet it.
Gillespie just took a really ugly fall
Coach needs to make sure the guys take notice - - you got to be focused every time out. - - - not let Providence pull the same thing by killing the 3 ball - -Gonzaga the # 1 overall seed - - bye bye
So, shifting gears to Villanova. Really solid team. Not flashy or uber-talented. Not very big either. But just so fundamentally sound, esp. on defense...
@DCHawker said in Sweet 16 Chat:
So, shifting gears to Villanova. Really solid team. Not flashy or uber-talented. Not very big either. But just so fundamentally sound, esp. on defense...
Whoever they get next, that will be a fantastic game. That's is a TOUGH quad.
GUNS UP MOFOS
Raiders looking salty. Dook not used to this kind of mob
This is how we do it, big 12!
GunsUp
Cougs looking good against the Arizona boob touchers
Tech giving Duke all they want so far
Houston looks pretty tough
I'd be happy to get Sampson back in the B12. He's aged about 15 years since those days, as have I
Lol Banchero didnāt even get touched
Seems like Duke starts getting the calls when theyāre more a a few downā¦.
@FarmerJayhawk said in Sweet 16 Chat:
Lol Banchero didnāt even get touched
Was just about to say the same thing. Going to see more of ref help in the 2nd half guaranteed.
@Gorilla72 said in Sweet 16 Chat:
Seems like Duke starts getting the calls when theyāre more a a few downā¦.
No āseems likeā about it. Itās one of the worst-kept secrets in sports.
How is that a no-call on that last three from Tech?
AZ not as cocky tonight!
We better be ready tomorrow night.- - Just ask Gonzaga - - or Arizona - - - or Duke
@jayballer67 said in Sweet 16 Chat:
We better be ready tomorrow night.- - Just ask Gonzaga - - or Arizona - - - or Duke
We will be
Late whistle
I respect Zags. Done an amazing job to go from the miracle mid major against Zona to a near NC.
Nance yells for every duk basket and just matter of facts it for Techs
Tech taking every punch
Lol dude got mauled at the rim
Where's the hand check fouls?
Feels like this is getting away from Tech
Cougs keeping the cats at arms length
So soft a call
Go red raider hackers
Huge 3
Phantom foul
@DanR said in Sweet 16 Chat:
Phantom foul
Tech got 3 so we have to give dook the same chance even if they shoot at the rim
I Still think tech is going to pull this one out
These games are too late. Big soccer games big s16 games past midnight.
West coast be damned.
Big duke dude with an impressive dunk then a couple mistakes
This Tech team is tough as a $2 steak
Dueling jacking threes at this point. One turnover prob is the difference
(Only commenting here so I donāt scare my dog and piss off my wife)
I am nauseated by the commentators excessively drooling over Duke.
Travel.
Thatāll do it
F***
Crumbled in the last 3 minutes. Damn it.
Stupid turnover and shit the bed. Couldnāt even foul
Ok weāre alive!
Life support
Canāt beat 8
Duke is going to win the NC. You can see it coming a mile away. Itās all setting up so perfectly and itās nauseating to watch.
Refs canāt block shots
Arms!!
I can't get 1986 FF out of my mind when that cheater scammed us out of a chance at a NC. 26 fouls against us, 14 them. We lose by 4. If twitter was a thing then......
F*ck. Let the slobberfest begin. God, I hate Duke.
Good for duke not fouling that half
Look at K. Probably Telling all the tech kids they are ābetter than thatā. What a pompous MF.
3 number 1s go down before the elite eight, with KU still to play. Tourney has gone off the rails
Man, Houston surviving some big brain farts
Houston freaked about the traps. Edwards killing the 3's
Weāre the last 1 standing š
@FarmerJayhawk you should delete that
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The K knob slobbering on ESPN and TBS is gross
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i avoided nausea by proxying the watch with your thread. Rough. Duck Fuke.
Refs had nothing to do with TT falling apart on about 5 straight possessions when they gave up the lead. A couple turnovers, guys going 3 ptr crazy. Then they tightened up again, but that was what killed them.
Love this fan base--when lots of calls are made against Texas or TT when we play them, we say it is because their hard defense strategy includes lots of hacking while we go inside. When they play other teams, it is always some anti-whoever-we-want-to-win strategy.
@mayjay If there isn't some conspiracy among refs than how do you explain KU not winning the championship every year? You CAN'T CAN YOU!!!!!
Real talk, refs in college ref too many games during the season and that leads to bad nights and games for everyone. But specifically, this season and tournament have been particularly bad when it comes to officiating. Every game has turned into a hockey game and to me it's a direct result of inconsistent officiating. The exact same level of contact is a foul sometimes but not others. There seems to be a "let them play" mentality until it gets out of control, then call it tight for a while to reign it back in. This is not how officiating should work. A certain level of contact should be a foul regardless of time, score, foul count, player, coach, team, etc. But that doesn't seem to be the case.
I don't honestly think there is some conspiracy to get K the title or keep KU out but if you think there isn't bias among refs, you have an unrealistic perception of the way humans operate. Refs naturally want to "keep it even" when it comes to calling fouls. We've been trained to believe equal equals fair. So if one team is in the double bonus and the other has 2 fouls, it's natural to feel an urge to call more fouls on the team with less. It is also natural for fans to believe allowing it to get to that 7-2 disparity means things weren't called fairly up to that point.
The truth is there doesn't need to be any backroom deals or pay offs to refs because human incompetence and implicit bias are more than enough to get the job done. And successful coaches like K, Izzo, and Self work these inconsistencies to their maximum advantage.
We better make sure we are ready. - Providence is no joke. - -some results: - Beat U conn 68-53 - - Beat Wisconsin - 63-58 - -Beat Seton Hall - -70-65 - -Beat Texas Tech - -72-68 - -BUT on the other side of the ledger - - only lost to Villanova by 5 points - then 4 points - -then got clobbered by Creighton by 27 - -& Virginia 58-40. - -just saying they can ball have beaten some quality clubs we have to come out and lay the hammer down, we let them hang around and it might not be good
@benshawks08 said in Sweet 16 Chat:
I donāt honestly think there is some conspiracy to get K the title or keep KU out
I used to be of the belief that my conspiratorial thought was the stuff of the tin foil hat crowd. But with the sheer amount of money and advertising and eyeballs that are necessary to make the engine go anymore, there is most definitely a need to control the narrative to maximize that gain.
To what level that is I don't know, but you see it with constant tinkering of the rules in sports, how they call games, the precedence given to certain schools in relation to the clearing house, the expediency of legal proceedings, etc. And who doesn't like a good storyline in their sports? Throw legalized gambling into the mix and what you have is a powder keg of things ready to send purists into a conniption fit.
In all honesty, I think the powers that be often have their heart in the right place when they meddle with things, the ultimate goal to make the game "better". I'm just not sold that "better" refers to the game itself, but all the residuals that come from it.
Last but not least, I think Duke wins the NC. It's too good a story. After last night's results, I'm even more sold on the idea. I hate that team with every fiber, but with Coach K leaving and having flamed out in the regular season and post-season tourneys, the fruit is just too low for the media to ignore. Oh, and with a chance to get revenge on UNC in the Final Four along the way? My God! What a ratings bonanza! :money-mouth_face: :face_vomiting:
GO HEELS
@FarmerJayhawk trying not to pick who i want to beat duke this year (though UNC would be pretty sweet, so would st peters). The answer of course is always āthe next team they faceā
Duck fuke.
Krzyuck Fzewski.
@approxinfinity said in Sweet 16 Chat:
@FarmerJayhawk trying not to pick who i want to beat duke this year (though UNC would be pretty sweet, so would st peters). The answer of course is always āthe next team they faceā
Duck fuke.
Krzyuck Fzewski.
Amen brother. Not picky in the slightest
Well, our game Sunday will be very different depending on who wins. ISU as we know elite defensively, bad offensively. Miami is the opposite. Don't think Dave could get many minutes against Miami...
My 11 year old has the first of pssibly 4 bball games in a tournament tomorrow at 8am. $15 admission for all spectators over 5 years old. Shit aint right.
@approxinfinity said in Sweet 16 Chat:
My 11 year old has the first of pssibly 4 bball games in a tournament tomorrow at 8am. $15 admission for all spectators over 5. Shit aint right.
Wow. Insane
@approxinfinity damn! Can't take the family. Write a letter.
@Crimsonorblue22 i dont know i mean its 8am so i wasnt taking anyone anyway. Just had no idea it was like this at age 11
@approxinfinity said in Sweet 16 Chat:
My 11 year old has the first of pssibly 4 bball games in a tournament tomorrow at 8am. $15 admission for all spectators over 5 years old. Shit aint right.
Damn sounds like MAYB ish from back in the day
Heels are out of gas
CALEB LOVE MY GOD
Yeah Caleb in his bag. Unreal confidence
Looks like a dook UNC FF
I take back everything mean I ever said about Hubert Davis. Sorry Hubert.
Yeah earning his keep fast
Unless Iowa St makes about 10 shots in a row hard to see a comeback. They are awful on offense
See ya Sunday canes