2 hours away. We might be starting 2 bigs!

@BShark said in Pitt State Gorillas Game Thread:

2 hours away. We might be starting 2 bigs!

Oh don't be mysterious, who?

@BShark said in Pitt State Gorillas Game Thread:

2 hours away. We might be starting 2 bigs!

Do we have 2 bigs that are P-5 quality starting Bigs ? - possibly Zach & Udeh - - Zach & Zuby that's mine lol if we go that route - got a feel about Zuby might surprisw

@stoptheflop said in Pitt State Gorillas Game Thread:

@BShark said in Pitt State Gorillas Game Thread:

2 hours away. We might be starting 2 bigs!

Oh don't be mysterious, who?

Believe the starting line-up will be Dajuan, Kevin, Jalen, KJ, Udeh.

@BShark I like the defense but the spacing on offense might be rough

@KirkIsMyHinrich Yeah lol. I tweeted about this and Dajuan liked my tweet. I've made it.

🐦 View Tweet

Did you tell him you're awesome at wizard chess?

I would think if Udeh doesn't start it will be Zach. Sounds like KJ has made big strides, something to monitor.

@BShark said in Pitt State Gorillas Game Thread:

@stoptheflop said in Pitt State Gorillas Game Thread:

@BShark said in Pitt State Gorillas Game Thread:

2 hours away. We might be starting 2 bigs!

Oh don't be mysterious, who?

Believe the starting line-up will be Dajuan, Kevin, Jalen, KJ, Udeh.

Wow, Gradey didn't crack the starting line up? Wow.

@stoptheflop Nothing official yet to be clear. Hearings :trade_mark:

@BShark My prediction that Zach would start is just a guess based on HC's previous teams. Coach likes a big man at the 5 and Zach fits that description. But just that's just my guess and we'll know very soon.

So you include KJ as a big. KU lists him as 6'7". How tall to you think he really is?

@stoptheflop Somewhere around there maybe 6'6'' Draymond/Vital type role.

@BShark it’s in the game notes PDF 😂 https://kuathletics.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/KUMBB_Pitt-State_exhibition.pdf ↗

@BShark said in Pitt State Gorillas Game Thread:

I would think if Udeh doesn't start it will be Zach. Sounds like KJ has made big strides, something to monitor.

KJ has made strides in what aspect of his game?

@FarmerJayhawk Can't trust Bill I'm afraid. KJ starting either way though, not sure how it makes me feel.

@BShark at very least someone in the SID’s office has a sense of humor. I can’t bring myself to feel anything about the starting lineup for Pitt State

MJ Rice not going through warm-ups per Swain.

@BShark someone let me know why when they find out. Going to the game so I won’t be able to surf the Twitter

@BShark said in Pitt State Gorillas Game Thread:

MJ Rice not going through warm-ups per Swain.

Interesting...

Personally I think we need to overreact and get WILD as much as possible over this exhibition @FarmerJayhawk

@FarmerJayhawk said in Pitt State Gorillas Game Thread:

@BShark it’s in the game notes PDF 😂 https://kuathletics.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/KUMBB_Pitt-State_exhibition.pdf ↗

Thanks for passing along the game notes. Looking forward to the matchup with the Fighting Boschees !

Noticed In Quick Facts (pg. 3) that it says KU's first season was 1888-89...which is a pretty neat trick considering that Naismith didn't invent the game until 1891 !

Wait, did i see above that Udeh is staring with KJ? Or was that silliness?
wow!

@rockchalkjayhawk said in Pitt State Gorillas Game Thread:

Wait, did i see above that Udeh is staring with KJ? Or was that silliness?
wow!

We don't know yet for sure. Game notes say KJ and Zach. I've heard KJ/Udeh and Gradey/Udeh as well. Chaos!

Two bigs. Man, hitting the way back machine if so.

Signing off so i can watch after work tonight without spoilers! (danged 5 p.m. starts for us west coasters)

MJ Rice out with an undisclosed injury. @Kcmatt7

BILL CONFIRMED Dajuan/Kev/JWill/KJ/Udeh

@rockchalkjayhawk said in Pitt State Gorillas Game Thread:

Two bigs. Man, hitting the way back machine if so.

Signing off so i can watch after work tonight without spoilers! (danged 5 p.m. starts for us west coasters)

Wayback machine is right. Echoes of the Ted Owens days when he ran a double-post offense with Danny Knight & Rick Suttle in the mid-'70s. Got us to a Final Four.

This should give usa chance to get some early practice defending the 3. - - Boschee said they are a team that wants to put up alot of three. - -work on that tree defense

Probably starting the 5 guys who worked the hardest in practice

shooting looks good

Getting cooked by Pitt St is not something I expected

Umm...wake up guys !

Fun start

BShark's fault as all bad things are

Boschee looks great. Can't say the same for the defending champs.

Game has clearly passed Bill by smh

Have to say they need this time out

actually laughing

Almost comical how bad this is

Wilson can't shoot

Good thing we're a football school now

McCullar certainly doesn't appear to be an upgrade

Zach >>> Udeh

MCCULLAR

We good

Ya this team might need to play a lot of defense for a while

Clearly he listened

@KirkIsMyHinrich we just gotta we just gotta make them play bad

For those who can't watch it, a bit more detail on the game would be welcomed...

Juandooooo

@DCHawker said in Pitt State Gorillas Game Thread:

For those who can't watch it, a bit more detail on the game would be welcomed...

Our offense hasn't been good. Missing a lot of shots. Defense wasn't good to start. Pitt St is knocking down a lot of 3's so far

@nwhawkfan said in Pitt State Gorillas Game Thread:

Danny Knight & Rick Suttle in the mid-'70s

Yes, a Final 4. But also known for carrying the parade banner for Linda Lovelace in the movie Linda Lovelace for President!

Actual score???????

Zach go up

26-24 pitt, but it was 21-6 pitt

@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Pitt State Gorillas Game Thread:

Zach go up

yeah that was soft

@BShark said in Pitt State Gorillas Game Thread:

@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Pitt State Gorillas Game Thread:

Zach go up

yeah that was soft

Zach Ben Simmons Clemence

@KirkIsMyHinrich rude

Jalen had Gradey wide open last drive.

Lol Joe

More like Nosufu on that one

Expecting big things from Dick

@DCHawker said in Pitt State Gorillas Game Thread:

Actual score???????

No, they were just in the parade.

Sorry...

Cuffe with the " little bit outside" on the free throw...

Boschee still🔥🔥🔥

As inconsistent as Wilson has always been, he better get into a different role than I'm THE MAN the entire game

Gradey!

Terrific finish for Dick

Nice gradey

GRADEY WITH THE ONE HANDED PUTBACK...

And 1

He got fouled for sure lol

I should have shaved my head in my late teens so people would be shocked at how I look now with some hair

Wilson making layups now

Who left that guy?

Doubt we see much more of Cuffe this year given how he looked.

Why is Rice out?

Back

@KirkIsMyHinrich Announcers said he injured his back

I love it when I push the wrong button on my remote and it takes 3 minutes to get my ESPN+ stream going again.

Nice finish KJ

I see you BPJ

Oooo nifty post feed

McCullar is our best low post player

Don't mind a five-point halftime lead. How we got there is another story.

liked that post up by McCuller... someone mentioned in a thread a while back that could be a killer strategy

Decent finish there

That McCullar post up was nice

@FarmerJayhawk said in Pitt State Gorillas Game Thread:

Oooo nifty post feed

Now if only we could get Jalen to pass ever. Doesn't seem likely this year lol

young Big guys can't screen worth a shit

Jeff Boschee has got to be happy with 34 first half points. Magillas look pretty good

@DanR said in Pitt State Gorillas Game Thread:

young Big guys can't screen worth a shit

Noticed this as well. Udeh completely lost.

@BShark said in Pitt State Gorillas Game Thread:

@DanR said in Pitt State Gorillas Game Thread:

young Big guys can't screen worth a shit

Noticed this as well. Udeh completely lost.

air screens

Give me a lineup of Juan, McCullar, Dick, Jalen and the best player from Buckets based on what I saw in the first half

Boschee has been a winning coach up until the past two seasons (covid talent depletion). Maybe he just likes hanging out in Eastern KS, but it seems like he could score a bigger coaching gig

That start is as bad as I have ever seen KU. That 5 just does not work, especially at this point. Overall bigs are very lost and we will be a lot better once they know how to run the offense.

@KirkIsMyHinrich + Zach

@DanR said in Pitt State Gorillas Game Thread:

@KirkIsMyHinrich + Zach

No, BShark's name is Steve

There was some really bad 3 point shooting by our guys. Cuffe, Adams, Yesufu. Didn't look like they practiced 3s at all. FTs either.

Bigs aren't cutting either

Maybe Jeff is staying close to Lawrence hoping for an assistant position.

These 5 are the starters many predicted. Adams at the 5.

No matter how inept you are as a big man at KU, if you can set a decent screen and cut to the basket you will play a lot.

-- Landen Lucas
-- Mitch 6 year Lightfoot
-- Big Dave

GRADEY DICK CAN SHOOT

Dick is money

KJ wat

Gradey showing he's a starter

How tall is McCullar? He seems huge out there

@DanR 6'6''

Massage the ball, dick? Sorry

Kraymond Green-Adams

@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Pitt State Gorillas Game Thread:

@DanR 6'6''

solid dude. I didn't remember him being that big at tech

They didn't play him that much. Subbed all the time

Ok so Juan/Kev/Gradey/Jalen/KJ is the line-up

After the game I want to watch a 3pt shooting contest between Jankovich, Dick, and Boschee

Zoom zoom

@KirkIsMyHinrich I’ll take Jeff all day errr day

@FarmerJayhawk I like it, D leads to O

@BShark said in Pitt State Gorillas Game Thread:

Ok so Juan/Kev/Gradey/Jalen/KJ is the line-up

I see some lumps coming. We have a long way to go.

@FarmerJayhawk said in Pitt State Gorillas Game Thread:

@KirkIsMyHinrich I’ll take Jeff all day errr day

46.4% from 3 on 6.4 attempts per game his senior year. You're probably right

Figure it was safe to check in now.

RockChalk

@Jethro said in Pitt State Gorillas Game Thread:

@BShark said in Pitt State Gorillas Game Thread:

Ok so Juan/Kev/Gradey/Jalen/KJ is the line-up

I see some lumps coming. We have a long way to go.

Well sure. We are going to need one of our true post players to figure it out. That's our best line-up today though.

@BShark we will need a big dave some time

@RockChalkinTexas KU 54 -36

Solid start to this half.

@FarmerJayhawk said in Pitt State Gorillas Game Thread:

@KirkIsMyHinrich I’ll take Jeff all day errr day

SR year Jeff was WEWWWW

McCullar's defense looks legit.

what a great play/pass from KJ

Jalen

I absolutely hated Kevin McCullar when we played Tech but he's been tough on defense.
My guy KJ has grown some and looks even more muscular.

@KirkIsMyHinrich went to the KU basketball camp as a kiddo when Jeff was a counselor. Dude just did not miss a shot. Was mind blowing to 10 year old me

@FarmerJayhawk I went to one as well, but my mind was blown by Danny Manning dunking

Dick is the man and better start every game from here on out

Jalen and Mccullar will be solid

Bobby is a great backup pg

5 spot needs to be Clemence and Zuby but Bills gonna be pushing kj and udeh for some reason

Juan is doing nothing Self claimed and looks bad offensively. Not even looking to shoot or score even when we were down 21-6

We need a dog like MJ to pair with Dick so Juan can feed them all game. Hearing he’s in the dog house which is typical. Bill favoring less athletic guys than taking the studs and making the team great

JANK

Nice pass Jank

Not loving Zach tonight

Pettiford really hustling tonight

Wow bobby!

So, Pettiford looks to be our backup point. Right?

@kuballin10 said in Pitt State Gorillas Game Thread:

5 spot needs to be Clemence and Zuby but Bills gonna be pushing kj and udeh for some reason

KJ has been our best 5 tonight and it is not close.

Agree on most of the other points.

@BShark screening sure anything else nah

Zuby got in and gave us a spark. What did you not like about his play?

He’s better than kj right now

Im past questioning Bills assessment of big talent for a few years after Dave carried our asses on his back to a :trophy:

Besides this game is an audition.

@kuballin10 MJ has to learn how to play defense and play within a structure. He was Mr. Jack Up Whatever in high school and isn’t a great shooter. He’ll take some time to get going, but Bill did say he’ll be a different guy in February than November. He knows a thing or two about getting the best out of guys

@approxinfinity said in Pitt State Gorillas Game Thread:

Im past questioning Bills assessment of big talent for a few years after Dave carried our asses on his back to a :trophy:

Well said…..I remember in Orlando we threw it in to Dave to win the game play was a mess with remy and we lost

Who could have predicted what happened later that season

After we got pounded by UK I said no chance with this team and yet this time every break fell our way and our nba studs played like it

@approxinfinity said in Pitt State Gorillas Game Thread:

Im past questioning Bills assessment of big talent for a few years after Dave carried our asses on his back to a :trophy:

I don't disagree but we're out of the tournament early without Remy

@KirkIsMyHinrich no doubt. It was magical coaching in case of both those kids. Got their very best

@FarmerJayhawk fair points can’t question Self

Him saying he liked tyus Jones over guys like Wiggins and randle does make me wonder though 😂

I'd rate the bigs KJ > Zuby > bag of rocks > other bigs

Would definitely like to at least see more of Zuby tonight @kuballin10

@KirkIsMyHinrich ding ding and Joe needs to be that this year or MJ

Juan HAS to look to score if he plays all year like tonight it’s gonna be a long season

@BShark i tuned in 2nd half, clemence been that bad?

@approxinfinity a little deer in the headlights

6'10" and he drives to the rim. RC

Current line up is comical on d

But I mean, Cuffe and a walk on are involved so yeah

JANK

@BShark fair enough

My bill self pet is Zuby

Dude went up against Lively (duke’s guy) and had 20 points and 20 boards - this I read on the other board I think have not verified

I know he routinely had 20 boards a night in high school dude is a freak with mid range game and with the 5 spot this bad get him a ton of play

I hope Pettiford plays a lot this season

Feels like NBA jam possessions rn

@kuballin10 I like him a lot overall too and think he can develop into a great college big.

Gradey must be close to 20

Can't leave Dick uncovered. Bad things will happen

McCullar is a menace

@KirkIsMyHinrich … couldnt help yourself

@FarmerJayhawk said in Pitt State Gorillas Game Thread:

McCullar is a menace

I'm glad he's our menace now.

@BShark needs to start now (him playing more).
Those UK freshman come in and produce - gotta loosen the leash

Seriously though, Gradey just looks like he gets it

@approxinfinity said in Pitt State Gorillas Game Thread:

@KirkIsMyHinrich … couldnt help yourself

It's going to be really hard to not do that every time he does something good this season

@KirkIsMyHinrich well it looks like it may be just one magical year of Dick jokes

@kuballin10 Problem is Udeh and Zuby are both confused on offense. It will come in time though I have faith in the kids and the staff.

Udeh's high school in particular didn't even really run offense. They let their guards jack up shots and everything he got was off rebounds. So this is quite the adjustment for him.

Oooo that’s nice

Wow that was nice!

Udeh needs to learn to set screens for that reason alone

So the physical tools are certainly there with him

Who dey? Udeh!

@KirkIsMyHinrich exactly. He’s really only a rim runner and lob guy now

Let's give Udeh as many minutes as possible early in the season.

I'm sold on this McCullar guy. Bill would have loved having him for 4 years

GRADEY SPESHA

Containing myself

Ok so we have our best 4

Great

@approxinfinity no

Sorry. I need to stop

harris giving the big man some confidence

@FarmerJayhawk you don’t think Zuby can do that?

Udeh clearly can dude is lonnggg

Oh damn

@DanR dude missed a left hand layup - we’ve been told he is to look to score and so far not much tonight

seems to be ok

@kuballin10 he’s not as good a lob guy as Udeh, no. But he’s certainly the better all around big right now.

Nice entry pass

ZUBY EATS GLASS

The Dicks made a mistake not giving Grady a more enjoyable first name.

Every time I hear Releford I think of Travis ❤

@RockChalkinTexas me too. I asked if he was related and my wife looked at me like i was ray-ray

@approxinfinity His brother is Trevor

@RockChalkinTexas said in Pitt State Gorillas Game Thread:

Every time I hear Releford I think of Travis ❤

A friend of mine knows the Pitt kid and his family, learned ball from his dad. He told me before the game that kid can shoot it and he isn't kidding that jump shot is NICE.

@BShark he tried to make a post move lol

Agreed Udeh is the rim runner I screamed about when Dave was here these past few years (watching Baylor do it said we need to)

Go 4 guards who can score around a 6-11 rim runner and go win a lot of games

@approxinfinity said in Pitt State Gorillas Game Thread:

The Dicks made a mistake not giving Grady a more enjoyable first name.

Better than Grade A ?

uhhh...gradey is a KEEPER

He's number 4 too. That's the best number

Dick got a big hand as he left the game

Atta boy Zuby. He does those things other bigs can’t. Elite activity level

Yes needs to lob/pass that

Brady / Gradey

Where's our big tattood lug 25 year old guy?

@DanR hurt

super impressed by pettiford. i sure hope he stays healthy- he could be elite.

@FarmerJayhawk dislocated shoulder per Gurley

@RockChalkinTexas ouch

@DanR oh man. That never occurred to me

Watch him get a medical redshirt and be around next year

@FarmerJayhawk
Mitch's successor 🤭

Zach

We are gonna break benjamins this year

@RockChalkinTexas surprised he's not in a sling. Must not be to bad.

94 is pretty good considering we only had 6 in the first 10 minutes

kudos to the one guy getting the chant going

Chant is rusty

And to the uninformed, the score looks like we dominated for the whole game.

(Well, for 30 minutes anyway.)

Didn't like the beginning, but the story has a happy ending. We have a ways to go for sure, imho.

@FarmerJayhawk camera next to tone deaf guy

🌾🌾🌾🌾🌾🌾🌾🌾🌾🌾🌾🌾🙋‍♀️

Gradey has the mind of a 45-year-old man wtf

Gradey so calm.

Gradey reminds me of my older brother. Who is 59

Really smart

Are we gonna be better than last year?

Worried about the bigs, but Bill will figure something out, even if he has to play McCullar down there

@approxinfinity said in Pitt State Gorillas Game Thread:

Are we gonna be better than last year?

Are we as good as the national champions? Uhhh...we were down 20-6.

How many assists did Juan have? 10?

@approxinfinity no

@Crimsonorblue22 said in Pitt State Gorillas Game Thread:

How many assists did Juan have? 10?

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Haha. But it was fun to watch! Loaded

I am getting a solarium put in and can't wait for it to get finished.
See you on Monday.
OMAHA (Peyton's favorite)

Rebounding is a massive issue for KJ.

Nobody had more than 4 rebounds, weird

@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Pitt State Gorillas Game Thread:

Nobody had more than 4 rebounds, weird

Bill will fix this pronto

Well guys things I learned from this 1st contest.- -1: -- Our DEFENSE is going to help us -- - A LOT this season. - - Yes I know it's Pitt State but 27 turnovers - - KU with 17 Steals. Ended up hitting 40 % from the three.

2.nd :- -I think we found out probably Grady Dick looks like the real deal - -complete player , looked pretty dam calm -- smooth.

3rd: - Our 5 spot, to me if we are looking for more of scoring option -I think Zach is our guy - -he just looks so much more fluid. KJ good ball game - -gonna take some time for our other two, BUT like I said if were going to ty and get more out of our five - - think has to be Zach.

Other players looking decent , thought Bobby played a really solid game - - Kevin did well. We might take some lumps early , gonna take a little time , but think we gonna be ok.

Won't see self till turkey break.

How about 19 steals

My husband graduated from Pitt State!

@BShark said in Pitt State Gorillas Game Thread:

@Crimsonorblue22 said in Pitt State Gorillas Game Thread:

How many assists did Juan have? 10?

!alt text ↗

Joe shows he isn't ready for prime time. If Joe's mind could overcome his fear, I think he could be a pretty good player. 1 for 7 isn't going to get you alot of playing time.

I thought Pettiford was brilliant. He needs more minutes.

@Crimsonorblue22 - will he still be at practices providing guidance?

@Gorilla72 yes, how about in the locker room at games?😂

Wonder if he can text them?

My mistake just heard them say KU with 19 steals not 17

Did someone give Gueldner some happy pills? Dude never has anything good to say about KU (it’s out of love, obvs) but is pretty satisfied tonight

@FarmerJayhawk said in Pitt State Gorillas Game Thread:

Did someone give Gueldner some happy pills? Dude never has anything good to say about KU (it’s out of love, obvs) but is pretty satisfied tonight

I heard at half time Jeff hada written a book - -was talking but didn't realize he had Cancer and had been through his Divorce

Lets go Phillies!

@FarmerJayhawk He talked about Bobby and playing after surgery and holding his hand near the area. I saw him do that.

Juando did up his offensive game- he took 6 shots tonite. I thought he could've penetrated the defense more, but can't argue about 10 assists.

Jalen missed a few layups. 9 for 17 is acceptable, though.

McCullars fits right in.

Gradey is the star of the team.

@approxinfinity said in Pitt State Gorillas Game Thread:

Lets go Phillies!

Boo!

@Jethro said in Pitt State Gorillas Game Thread:

@approxinfinity said in Pitt State Gorillas Game Thread:

Lets go Phillies!

Boo!

Astros ARE CHEATERS!!

@approxinfinity said in Pitt State Gorillas Game Thread:

Lets go Phillies!

Let's Go Phillies

I want Bryce Harper to get one.

I'd like to see Dusty Baker get one, but not with the Astro cheaters

Boschee is up next. I really really liked him.

@RockChalkinTexas said in Pitt State Gorillas Game Thread:

@Jethro said in Pitt State Gorillas Game Thread:

@approxinfinity said in Pitt State Gorillas Game Thread:

Lets go Phillies!

Boo!

Astros ARE CHEATERS!!

They call us cheaters,too. Teams have been stealing signs in baseball for 100 years. Not sorry!

@Jethro Pettiford is clearly the back-up PG. He needs to be willing to shoot to get much time next to Dajuan imo.

Coach Self said he doesn't know what he is going to do Monday - -said maybe play Golf , I guess he said he won't even be in the Office on Monday

We didn't start playing until we were down by 15. Just like our football team

@RockChalkinTexas me too!🥰

@Jethro They literally caught the ass-stros beating on garbage cans to relay info to the hitters from a camera in the rafters. Not like a runner on second tipping off the batter

@BShark said in Pitt State Gorillas Game Thread:

@Jethro Pettiford is clearly the back-up PG. He needs to be willing to shoot to get much time next to Dajuan imo.

@BShark said in Pitt State Gorillas Game Thread:

@Jethro Pettiford is clearly the back-up PG. He needs to be willing to shoot to get much time next to Dajuan imo.

Couldn't agree more buddy - - Bobby needs to play- --just stay healthy

I love he dives on the floor, but that hip....oh and the bandaid on his face💪🏾

CB liked it 🐦 View Tweet?s=46&t=yb-0P5Kgx_fpz1aZFfroWw

@DanR said in Pitt State Gorillas Game Thread:

@Jethro They literally caught the ass-stros beating on garbage cans to relay info to the hitters from a camera in the rafters. Not like a runner on second tipping off the batter

Screw off with your "Ass-tros" shit. Every team had a sign stealing system in place. Carlos Beltran is the one who told the Astros about the Yankess system and why the Astros developed their own season. Also doesn't change that the Astros had a better road than home record in 2017 and won that World Series in Dodger Stadium. Keep on hating and the Astros are just gonna keep on winning.

Ass-stros three S's

After the game tonight bill self stated that MJ Has a lower back injury

@FarmerJayhawk like our new guys, just really miss CB, Och, Big Dave. Oh and Mitch!

@JAYHAWKFAN214 I'm really anxious to see MJ play.

@Crimsonorblue22 said in Pitt State Gorillas Game Thread:

@JAYHAWKFAN214 I'm really anxious to see MJ play. That's why he didn't play in the exhibition game tonight it might be a while for we see him out On the court

@DanR said in Pitt State Gorillas Game Thread:

Ass-stros three S's

Don't really give a shit. After Saturday night, you can address them as Champs. I'll be sure to send you a WS Champs shirt.

Back to the game where we all can agree who are the good guys... Some takeaways:

Jalen Wilson: the only thing holding him back from being pretty awesome almost every night is his head / mindset.

Grady Dick: looks like a scorer. Good now. Should be very good by Feb. I expect him to start henceforth.

Kevin: Really solid and will save our bacon in several games this year. He will become our most reliable player by January.

Juan: Pretty much where he left off last year. Would have liked him to find at least one 3. Its something he should have worked on during the offseason.

KJ: Bouncy and athletic as ever. Should be much improved by conference. If not, someone else will need to take his place as a starter.

Bobby: I can see him becoming a force.

This team looks like it is at it's best when it's pushing the pace and is able to take advantage of its athleticism. This means it's fragile and vulnerable to teams that are disciplined and know how to slow the pace (and shoot the 3). McCullar is the only guy that looked like he could be depended on to produce in that kind of match up.

PS: Jeff Bochee: Looked great and had his team ready. Seeing him on the court (even with all that hair) brought back some fond memories.

@bskeet I'm sure Juan did, 10 assists and 6 pts isn't to shabby.

Whoooaaa doggie!

Gradey’s got a smoooottth stroke! Wow.

It was our first game, and an exhibition, so not sure how much we can read into things.

I do have the same concern I’ve had since the summer…3 pt shooting. Gonna need some more. Once teams scout Grady and shove him off the line as best they can, somebody will have to step up.

That paired with zero post game could be a basic basketball problem against big boy teams.

Waaaayy better second half.

How do you think our young bigs did? First glance not sure I can tell much about their games yet. Udeh had some dunks! For some reason I had it in my head that Zuby would be the better of the two.

Cuffe played!!! How bout that? I was excited to see him and the new bigs.

I’m afraid Self is asking things of Joe that he simply isn’t comfortable with — get downhill to the hoop.

@DanR lolz I remember that from making Houston our whipping boy back in the NL Central day before they ran west.

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Pitt State Gorillas Game Thread:

@DanR said in Pitt State Gorillas Game Thread:

Ass-stros three S's

Don't really give a shit. After Saturday night, you can address them as Champs. I'll be sure to send you a WS Champs shirt.

LOL! Love it...

Very happy to have basketball back!

By Exhibition standards this was one of the poorest games in the Self era. Good to get out there and have this tape for practice though.

I have no idea how this team will score once scouted. Self has his work cut out for him with this group. I know he'll mold them into something.

Some individual notes:

Gradey was as advertised on offense. That shot of his is capable of performing at an elite level. The announcer seemed pretty shocked he could drive to the hoop which lets me know he didn't scout him very well. I was particularly paying attention to his defense which was good to average at times. His offense will force him into the starting lineup. KJ is a non-factor on O besides his ability to move the ball & that's something scouting will expose against us.

Kevin- you can see clearly why Self liked him, versatile big guard that is well schooled defensively. His defensive awareness is top notch, like Self coached him for years already. Him and Harris on the press was bad news bears for Pitt St. On offense you can see why he's still in College his shot has just never developed to the point of being a weapon. Hopefully he can find some efficiency as the season progresses.

Juan/Jalen have that added smoothness/comfortability to their games after years in the system. Jalen looks in great shape.

Thought Bobby looked sharp especially with the hustle plays. Is he afraid to shoot?

We have a lot of small guards (Juan, Bobby, Yesufu, Cuffe) and only Joe seems to have the awareness or ability to look for his shot. Really hope Bobby can evolve his game past the little we've seen which can absolutely be a positive. Anyone else notice Bobby holding the area he had surgery on it seemed?

Not buying the back excuse on Rice. We know better by now.

Good to see Cuffe out there. He's certainly behind still and you can just see it. Unfortunate. Probably won't play much this season.

Love the long-term potential of Zuby/Udeh. Those are grown men. 3 months from now it will be interesting to see their development. Seems like one of these guys is absolutely a key.

There will be growing pains for sure. Hopefully in the opener we have a little more focus at the start.

Clemence made the case for starting at the 5. I don't understand why many posters want Adams at the 5, which was where he started in the second half. In 14 min. Zach shot 3/3-7 pts, 4 rbs. 1 blk; whereas in 21 min, Adams scored 4 pts on 1/3 shooting, had an ugly 3 attempt, 1 rb, 1 stl and 1 blk. Yes, late in the second half Zuby reminded me of Dok in the paint. But, for now Zach should get most of the minutes at the 5 while Udeh and Zuby figure things out.

@stoptheflop Zach is a good player but a horrendous fit for what Bill wants. Could see multiple times Bill was FURIOUS with him. Going to be very interesting...

Oof. Live I thought Zach sucked last night. Was by far the 4th option at the 5 imo

@bskeet as Farmer pointed out Wilson was really selfish this game.

He drove twice where he had easy dump offs to bigs for dunks and instead he tried tough layups up against two defenders and missed

Juan we were told is the most improved and will score. His stat line didn’t show any of that.

Love the 10 assists - hate against Pitt state he didn’t drive and live in the lane. That’s what’s frustrating if he isn’t going to score then he has to penetrate and he just passes it around the perimeter not doing much.

@Crimsonorblue22 against the competition it isn’t great

You could have had 10 assists with guys wide open knocking down shots the second half

If we are told he will score more I expect to see that aggression but if we get Juan of last year he isn’t improved

How he didn’t shoot 500 threes a day plus his floaters I won’t understand. We are told he’s gonna be nails and lead us so I expect that to be the case (this Juan in the Nova game)

@stoptheflop

There were a few plays where Zach caught the ball under the basket and had no basket awareness it seemed. I'm guessing those plays in Bill's eyes are no-no's especially as he searches for any kind of big that can give him a front court presence. His drive from the perimeter for a layup was nice. He showed his perimeter touch late on another. You see the tools that can be useful, but they also seem to be skills Bill doesn't care about featuring or catering too.

It was game zero, I don't think we've seen enough from him but first impression wasn't flattering. Zach had a clear path to starting here and so far he hasn't seized it.

I remain hopeful Zach does become a reliable option down low.

@BShark said in Pitt State Gorillas Game Thread:

@stoptheflop Zach is a good player but a horrendous fit for what Bill wants. Could see multiple times Bill was FURIOUS with him. Going to be very interesting...

Which makes you wonder why Bill even recruited him, right?

Why not use him for what he is, instead of trying to jam him into a mold he’s not???

@rockchalkjayhawk fantastic point
Sure makes you wonder.

Bill values things and players many in the game wouldn’t. Curious why that is.

Kerr is great because he plays his guys to their strengths that’s the job as a coach. Use their skill set and maximize it not take them and try to make them fit a scheme they don’t.

@BeddieKU23 said in Pitt State Gorillas Game Thread:

Very happy to have basketball back!
Not buying the back excuse on Rice. We know better by now.

Hey, i thought i was the only conspiracy theory prognosticator around here! :)

Coach values toughness and defense. These intangibles are exactly why the Wiggs, Cb's and D'taes want to play for him and why they are successful now. The guys that want to play for him know that signing on. Some take awhile to figure it out.

@rockchalkjayhawk somebody said Gurley said shoulder separation, I think.

Gradey Dick led all KU players at the FT line hitting 3/5. As a team, KU FT shooting was 8/20. How in the hell does a team of D1 athletes shoot less than 50%? Doesn't McCarthy have an indoor basketball court for unlimited practice? There's no excuse for such poor FT shooting. It seems like our coaching staff just tolerates it.

@stoptheflop said in Pitt State Gorillas Game Thread:

Gradey Dick led all KU players at the FT line hitting 3/5. As a team, KU FT shooting was 8/20. How in the hell does a team of D1 athletes shoot less than 50%? Doesn't McCarthy have an indoor basketball court for unlimited practice? There's no excuse for such poor FT shooting. It seems like our coaching staff just tolerates it.

Hey, Cuffe at least hit the backboard!

@rockchalkjayhawk said in Pitt State Gorillas Game Thread:

@stoptheflop said in Pitt State Gorillas Game Thread:

Gradey Dick led all KU players at the FT line hitting 3/5. As a team, KU FT shooting was 8/20. How in the hell does a team of D1 athletes shoot less than 50%? Doesn't McCarthy have an indoor basketball court for unlimited practice? There's no excuse for such poor FT shooting. It seems like our coaching staff just tolerates it.

Hey, Cuffe at least hit the backboard!

Barely hit the backboard. I'll give him a pass due to nerves.

@stoptheflop said in Pitt State Gorillas Game Thread:

@rockchalkjayhawk said in Pitt State Gorillas Game Thread:

@stoptheflop said in Pitt State Gorillas Game Thread:

Gradey Dick led all KU players at the FT line hitting 3/5. As a team, KU FT shooting was 8/20. How in the hell does a team of D1 athletes shoot less than 50%? Doesn't McCarthy have an indoor basketball court for unlimited practice? There's no excuse for such poor FT shooting. It seems like our coaching staff just tolerates it.

Hey, Cuffe at least hit the backboard!

Barely hit the backboard. I'll give him a pass due to nerves.

Poor guy. U could see he was nervous.

I’m hoping to see more of Cuffe early in the season. We don’t know much about his skills. Seemed quick enough on the floor.

Cuffe would not play much for Pitt State I would wager. Note the recruiting class this year, loaded up on guards.

@BShark said in Pitt State Gorillas Game Thread:

Cuffe would not play much for Pitt State I would wager. Note the recruiting class this year, loaded up on guards.

Hoping he gets some PT in a real game so we can assess a bit more. Always exciting to see new players out there.

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