OMAHAAAAAA
KU -34.5, I wouldn't go anywhere near that.
OMAHAAAAAA
KU -34.5, I wouldn't go anywhere near that.
Hi friends!
Cleverly named thread. It's nice to see Christian getting PT for the Thunder and there is an Och sighting from time to time and Kelly Oubre is a star!
I have not laid eyes on this version of KU BB so it's excitement time for this currently Covidized fan. I'm hoping to see what all the talk about Bobby Pettiford at the end of last season is about.
MJ available to play.
@BShark said in Peyton Manning Game Thread:
OMAHAAAAAA
KU -34.5, I wouldn't go anywhere near that.
Jinx. I thot the same thing. On another subject, kudos to Fox Sports and the Big East. They are cutting from one Big East opener to the next, as they cover the WHOLE CONFERENCE at the same time. They also have a studio full of talking heads providing analysis of the games- it's freaking amazing. I cannot wait until Fox gets ahold of the B12- it will be epic.
GO TIME
Let's do this
Omaha is an Adidas team, surprise.
wilson got one of his missed layups out of the way
God I love McCullar
KJ simply can not rebound.
Atta boy J Will
meh
Looked like a bad call Wayne
Well Juan attempted a three. Can't complain about that. But it didn't look super duper.
Omg KJ rebound
@FarmerJayhawk drink!
Make the free throws.
I can count on one finger the times Jwill drove and dunked
AGAIN, KJ CANT REBOUND
Oof sequence for adams
I think the KJ experiment has shown what it is
@BShark said in Peyton Manning Game Thread:
MJ available to play.
We should win handily if MJ is available. This is my clever way to disguise that I donāt know who MJ is
Grady belongs out there.
I prefer having a true big man... 6-10 +
ok. Wilson shooting better tonight. Should open up some possibilities.
espn+ is streaming like garbage tonight at my house
J Will has to do that a lot this yr. Hope he can sustain it
@FarmerJayhawk said in Peyton Manning Game Thread:
I think the KJ experiment has shown what it is
Ready for it to end, but Bill gonna Bill (there is no doubt he is still in charge).
I feel much better about Jalen as the reliable 3 pt shooter than Jalen the finish through contact guy
Ten bucks to stream now. I hate these jerks nickel and dining is to death
Didn't Jwill go like 2-20 from three to start last season? He's already got that
@approxinfinity the former should mean less of the latter thankfully
Good grief I canāt type on my phone āNickle and diming us to deathā
@FarmerJayhawk said in Peyton Manning Game Thread:
@approxinfinity the former should mean less of the latter thankfully
:hundred_points: also it means hes a real nba prospect. Everybody wins.
True
Dick with the great touch there
Why the heck is this the Peyton manning game thread?
Wow gradey
Dick was poking around
Jalen traveled but k
Im imagining Dick in the rafters
@approxinfinity wont be here long enough
I do think Harris has pretty good vision and is a nifty passer
ERNEST LETS GOOO
Big man alert
Nice catch by the high money donor in the fourth row
Ok. I think this may be the lineup of the future
Refs plz
edit: actually, probably the right call
Udeh is fun
Great set there. Ernest is that dude
Udeh is fun shooting fts too
A little more practice on that lob dunk...
@FarmerJayhawk said in Peyton Manning Game Thread:
Great set there. Ernest is that dude
AND HE MADE A FT šØšØšØšØ
Udehs shot is surely a work in something lol
Bob is a nice player, will be waking up the haters soon.
he is pure.
Wow
Gradey really active on defense
that's as smooth a shot as humanly possible
lol this line-up
Norm with a very odd line-up
Ernest sure is an earnest defender
Oh boy Ernest in time defensively is going to be that dude
This lineup is like the game Mastermind where you choose 5 pieces you KNOW are not the right combo just to rule pieces out.
Bobby š„°š„°š„°
I'm paying for this stream?
I'm paying for this stream?
@Gorilla72 sorry that doesnāt clear it up for me.
Bobby has looked really good
@BeddieKU23 shhhh @kuballin10 will hear you and feel empowered to call for Lil Dajuans head
Did the stream die for you all?
My stream has been really good all night
Watching on espn+ hasnt died
mine died
Must be the eclipse
I will be coming out of retirement to play in the faculty vs police basketball game. Iām hoping to garner consideration for mvp
Oh god this lineup
Mccullar can shoot right?
Iām paying for a screen that says unable to play video at this time?
@approxinfinity 30% from 3 for his career. Not really his game
Mine got screwed up and I had to reboot.
Oof. I dont see Dick coming off the floor this year when its for real
Uh, score shocker of the evening so far - Ark Pine Bluff up on TCU 29-9 halfway through 1st half....
the stream died. i rebooted- nothing yet...
mine stopped again for 15 seconds
Gradey with a corner 3
Juandooooo
JUANDO
So uh, more Gradey shooting, less Joe shooting. I think we can all agree?
commercial streaming clear as a bell
Gradey is the guy who should be shooting, not Yesafu.. I like Joseph, but he needs to be creating for others a bit more.
@BShark said in Peyton Manning Game Thread:
So uh, more Gradey shooting, less Joe shooting. I think we can all agree?
Yes and yes.
Not been Joe's finest so far. Good looks. Needs one to go down
Because this is what we sports media types do: Gradey's stroke is the sweetest in Lawrence since....Billy Thomas? Of course we can tell after less than one half of a game against a far inferior opponent.
I think KJ already has as many RBs as he had all last year.... ;)
Plus 5 on boards. Plus 7 on assists so far.
ZACH SIGHTING
Of course there's no glitches during the commercials.
Ridiculous. ESPN+ has got to GO
well, my TV is frozen on a jiffy lube commercial
really crappy stream tonight.. glitchy, degraded quality.
19-32 for those frozen.
KJ rebounds are surely fools gold
Pretty clearly a travel
Zach caught ball watching, and got beat...
21-34 with Omaha ft coming
That Gradey adjustment to bank it in was sweet. Was really expecting a off target floater
Jalen feeling it
I got about 30 seconds play this time before it went out again
Give me more Udeh or Zuby
Hopefully espn figures this out ASAP
Yes please zone us more Iām begging you
at times, it's just undulating blobs on the screen for me
Wow that's unfortunate for those experiencing issues
Did Elon Musk buy espn too?
Mine stopped glitching when I stopped casting it to the TV
Wilson has 13 and KU has a 13 pt lead with 3 and change to go
I'm thankful for the perfectly streaming commercials so I don't waste my time resarting the routers
KJ boarding like his Scholly depends on it. 6 already
Has Zuby been in?
stream dead for me.
What isn't acceptable is O too often getting to the FT line - and making them. 9-10. We are an all too typical 2-6...
BOBBY
Bobby big time!
Wow. Bobby electric
Bobby gets downhill FAST
That stroke on Dickā¦
All day long its Dick Dick Dick
Gradey. Picking up where ochai left off
Gradey and Bobby are both very good players
Anyone catch what fans are doing after every dick bucket??
Teams are going to start scheming on Gradey⦠running Dick in a Box
@approxinfinity always a surprise
Could we develop a play called a Dick and Roll?
Harris hammered how is that missed
J will could avg 20 a night
@BeddieKU23 so could dickā¦
Well, stream is back for me now.
who is high scorer?
Jwill i think w 15
@benshawks08 said in Peyton Manning Game Thread:
@BeddieKU23 so could dickā¦
We'd probably be better off if they did. Who else is going to score on the reg?
espn got the hamsters running just in time for another round of ads
welp, gotta go pick up my son from fb practice.. Ttyl
@DanR said in Peyton Manning Game Thread:
espn got the hamsters running just in time for another round of ads
Someone is seriously messing with you
@benshawks08 said in Peyton Manning Game Thread:
Anyone catch what fans are doing after every dick bucket??
Was waiting for the answer?
Halftime!
@approxinfinity I canāt tell. But sounds like they may just be saying ādick, dick, dick dick dickā
Dick dick dick dick BOOM!
@wissox Google says: We hear it every week during football season. A quarterback will rush his offense up to the line, scream āOmahaā to signal an audible or a snap count, then receive the snap and continue with the play. Manning was the most well-known user of the term
Man my family is a bunch of phlegm hurlers rn. Son tested positive for flu after soccer on Saturday. Would love to not hear any coughs for a few months.
Of course Efffing ESPN has their top story Duke and not the defending national champions playing well in Lawrence. I really hate their freaking east coast bias
@tundrahok Thanks!!
Not only did Dick pump fake and drive to the FT and shoot a pull up J he was the first to touch the ball after it went through.
This team does not lack energy
@approxinfinity he plays with the kind of energy self cat resist. Canāt imagine he is on the bench at the beginning (or end) of any game from here on out.
Dick has made a few mistakes driving and jumping into nowhere but thatās about all you can complain about his game right now.
@benshawks08 we have high energy guys at every position. Practice battles are going to be insane
Grady and jalen trying to step into that Och and Braun roles. Will be interesting to see if they can keep it up.
MJ this years Remy?
Ha they run the lob to open up the half on Self
@benshawks08 back
Dick's length strikes again
Dick in the right spot at the right time again.
Gradey's defense has been a very pleasant surprise so far.
@Texas-Hawk-10 looks like he can play post D too
Lots of room to improve on glass. Gonna have lots of pains there
Guys gotta grab that rebound.
TCU down 11 at half to Pine Bluff
Those finishes by Harris are not going to cut it
@BeddieKU23 said in Peyton Manning Game Thread:
Those finishes by Harris are not going to cut it
Bring in Bob
DeJuan hobbling after that play?
Awful
I can't believe we're going to lose to Omaha.
Dajuan can't run right now, I'd definitely get him out for a bit.
That Kevin midrange jumper was not it lol
Must have been a heck of a halftime pep talk by Norm
Bob Jalen Dick and ? ?
Our defense has been concerning though part of it is line-ups...
Why is Harris still out there?
Where is Zuby? He better get some minutes tonight over Clemence
@benshawks08 said in Peyton Manning Game Thread:
Why is Harris still out there?
Very confused by this.
Any of you younguns out there know there used to be an NBA team in Omaha?
@wissox said in Peyton Manning Game Thread:
Any of you younguns out there know there used to be an NBA team in Omaha?
did not know that
@benshawks08 said in Peyton Manning Game Thread:
@BShark like, are coaches not watching the game and seeing him flop around out there?
We are really missing Bill tonight.
Rim protector???
@kuballin10 neither has really played tbf
Dajuan can't even move side to side right now what are we doing
Ernest!
Udeh is gonna be good.
That was better
Letās roll with Udeh. Things seem to work better with him vs. KJ
@FarmerJayhawk this teams best d long term is with him down low to protect the rim. I think heāll get there this year.
KJ at 5 just isnt going to translate against real teams. Nothing but a change of pace thing.
@FarmerJayhawk said in Peyton Manning Game Thread:
Letās roll with Udeh. Things seem to work better with him vs. KJ
You can just see this happening in the future
@BeddieKU23 seems like a Landen vs. Doke thing before Doke got hurt
KEVIN TAKING OVER
Harris, McCullar, Udeh is a sick defensive anchor.
Yeah guys I think we got our 5
Alright this is working
Udeh is IMPACTING this game.
And Kevin is very good.
Bob in finally
Bobby in. Letās turn up the speed even more.
@wissox said in Peyton Manning Game Thread:
Any of you younguns out there know there used to be an NBA team in Omaha?
The Kings were KC and Omaha, right?
Big 12 player of the year, jalen Wilson.
@stoptheflop I believe that's correct.
@benshawks08 Not Gradey Dick?
Zach relocated by WITSEC I'm afraid.
Nope. Jalen is the one.
I thought Kings were just Kansas City, but according to the internet, they split with Omaha from 1972 until 1975.
Oldest franchise in the NBA.
Bobby player of the year in 2024.
sorry about the multiple posts. ESPN+ is robbing my internets
I disagree. I was an interim varsity soccer coach and got my first win in soccer. I still claim it.
@benshawks08 said in Peyton Manning Game Thread:
Udeh is IMPACTING this game.
And then pulled for kj. Just awful rotations let him keep playing and gaining confidence
@kuballin10 he might have been tired. Tough pace to keep up with.
KJ is not even making a case for being a defensive stopper right now
@FarmerJayhawk said in Peyton Manning Game Thread:
Yeah guys I think we got our 5
Donāt speak too soonā¦
Brave choice to play 4 players that can't shoot at the same time
@DanR said in Peyton Manning Game Thread:
KJ is not even making a case for being a defensive stopper right now
Wilson only white Jersey in the paint for that board over 3 uno guys
@kuballin10 said in Peyton Manning Game Thread:
@benshawks08 said in Peyton Manning Game Thread:
Udeh is IMPACTING this game.
And then pulled for kj. Just awful rotations let him keep playing and gaining confidence
Missing Bill tonight like I said.
@benshawks08 we just had a tv timeout and thatās when he sat
@kuballin10 and heās back. Common rotation
Bobby āNellyā Pettiford is a dude
Udeh is a problem on d. Gets his hands on so many balls!
@FarmerJayhawk said in Peyton Manning Game Thread:
@kuballin10 and heās back. Common rotation
Kj is gonna he starting 5 cause Bill gonna Bill
Should be Udeh then Zuby (Clemence Iāve given up on heās block feet).
This kj at the 4 is atrocious
Wayne Simien has to look at McCullar and think, "hey, he kind of looks like me"
Do think Udeh is gonna pick up his fair share of fouls this year. Not sure how more havenāt been called on him tbh.
@kuballin10 I donāt really care who starts, just who plays the high leverage minutes. And from the looks of things itāll be Udeh. Weāll see what happens when Rice gets healthy. Thatāll change the wing rotation as well
KJ plays like that make me wonder when he'll contribute to the team consistently.
@stoptheflop said in Peyton Manning Game Thread:
@wissox said in Peyton Manning Game Thread:
Any of you younguns out there know there used to be an NBA team in Omaha?
The Kings were KC and Omaha, right?
At first, because there weren't enough open dates at Municipal Auditorium (before they built Kemper Arena). They left Omaha after a few years and played in KC full time until the team moved to Sacramento. I used to watch them practice at Rockhurst U. when Nate Archibald was on the team.
@benshawks08 said in Peyton Manning Game Thread:
Do think Udeh is gonna pick up his fair share of fouls this year. Not sure how more havenāt been called on him tbh.
ref let him set a couple illegal screens before calling the third last time he was out there
UNLIMITED RANGE
Ochai who?
This team could be dangerous in March. They are still figuring so much out.
Bobby for 3!!!
If Bob develops a trey he will be an all timer for us
Bobby lookin good too
Gradey is ridiculous
Udeh needs to start - donāt care farmer haha
Mj needs to take Joeās minutes
Bobby honestly outplaying Juan who canāt buy a layup or do anything offensively
On cue lol
This is fun
This team is gonna have some ugly minutes but the pretty ones sure are nice.
@kuballin10 wonāt get any argument from me on Joe vs. MJ. Heās just now getting back to full speed from being hurt
we got some weapons, and we got skills...
@kuballin10 said in Peyton Manning Game Thread:
Iām gonna be unbearable when Elmarko and Chris should be the starting 1-2 or 2-3 with Bobby at the 1 next year
Bobby is gonna be in the rafters before he leaves. Lol.
That crowd making noise like we're beating Texas for the Big 12 championship.
@approxinfinity said in Peyton Manning Game Thread:
@BShark yeah i dont see Zach having much of a role
It's...yeah he was not good the brief time he was in. Udeh has all the physical tools he doesn't. I like Zach but damn.
Not sure how you keep Udeh off the floor. And if the plan is still kj for small ballā¦
Udeh is Self's perfect big man. If he can learn the offensive sets and rebound, he's going to be the guy
Good god. Dick.
@DanR said in Peyton Manning Game Thread:
Udeh is Self's perfect big man. If he can learn the offensive sets and rebound, he's going to be the guy
Gonna need to learn how to post up well enough to at least catch the entry pass. He will get there.
Uh oh ESPN frozen
Other than Ochai's first couple pulled redshirt game, anyone remember a freshman that looked as comfortable as Gradey?
ZUBY SIGHTING
I think we are seeing why zuby hasnāt seen a lot of early run.
Who is Ejifor? I know who he's against, but who is he for?
Udeh lottery pick oad a la embiid ceiling?
Gonna have plenty of run to find out
Kyle Cuffe, he uh, tries hard.
@approxinfinity that development was so fast. Not sure anyone can develop that kind of footwork that fast again.
JANK
Thatās what I want to see from Zuby
@approxinfinity said in Peyton Manning Game Thread:
@BShark haha its easy to say no ;)
Embiid was next level special. If you are looking for our OAD it's Gradey.
Chant time.
Nice debut by Gradey. 23 points on 8 of 13 from the field, including 4 of 6 from behind the arc.
@approxinfinity Embiid had hakeem olajuwon moves memorized as a frosh
@benshawks08 said in Peyton Manning Game Thread:
@approxinfinity that development was so fast. Not sure anyone can develop that kind of footwork that fast again.
Not sure if you are familiar with the medium, but it was basically anime stuff but in real life. He looked at something, he had it down lol.
Love Bobby.
Luv u Bobby
Not sure if anybody posted this but UAPB - - OVER TCU by 11 at the half
Correction...make that 9 of 13 for Dick.
Bobby fast talking fast thinking.. gogogo
Boy , w got a - - - STUD on our team - - Goodness can Grady shoot that dam ball -holy crap - glad he is on OUR team lol
Think weāve got our rotation for now. Juan McCullar Dick Wilson KJ Udeh Bobby. Maybe weāll dip to 9 when MJ gets sped up
This team is going to be hella fun to watch develop
@FarmerJayhawk wait you only listed 7.
@jayballer67 said in Peyton Manning Game Thread:
Not sure if anybody posted this but UAPB - - OVER TCU by 11 at the half
Yep. TCU came back and took the lead in the 2nd half, but UAPB is still only down 1 at the 4 minute TO.
OK so I know we have to have Juan - -but I'm tellin ya we have to make sure Bobby see's the floor. He just adds a little more of a offensive threat I think. - Juan is such a defensive gem -- but teams play off him some or wil and it's like 4-5 - -bobby at least looks a little more aggressive- -we need some scoring options
@nwhawkfan said in Peyton Manning Game Thread:
@jayballer67 said in Peyton Manning Game Thread:
Not sure if anybody posted this but UAPB - - OVER TCU by 11 at the half
Yep. TCU came back and took the lead in the 2nd half, but UAPB is still only down 1 at the 4 minute TO.
geez thats crazy
I know was mop up - - BUT love Zuby effort - - Zuby with the block - - Zuby on the floor -- love that kind of play
@approxinfinity ope thatās the first Monday of standard time brain.
@FarmerJayhawk I think joe will continue to see the floor. Just to see if heās hot.
@jayballer67 said in Peyton Manning Game Thread:
@nwhawkfan said in Peyton Manning Game Thread:
@jayballer67 said in Peyton Manning Game Thread:
Not sure if anybody posted this but UAPB - - OVER TCU by 11 at the half
Yep. TCU came back and took the lead in the 2nd half, but UAPB is still only down 1 at the 4 minute TO.
geez thats crazy
Another SWAC team, obviously better than Miss. Valley State, tonight's sacrificial lamb for Baylor.
@benshawks08 said in Peyton Manning Game Thread:
I think we are seeing why zuby hasnāt seen a lot of early run.
Yeah I retract my comments lol
Something about yada yada trust the hall of famer is something I should do
@kuballin10 is norm a hall of famer?
@kuballin10 said in Peyton Manning Game Thread:
@benshawks08 said in Peyton Manning Game Thread:
I think we are seeing why zuby hasnāt seen a lot of early run.
Yeah I retract my comments lol
Something about yada yada trust the hall of famer is something I should do
Zuby will be good eventually. Bundle of energy right now. Like I said reminds me of TRob including the frosh nerves.
Very promising signs from Udeh tonight though.
@FarmerJayhawk said in Peyton Manning Game Thread:
@approxinfinity ope thatās the first Monday of standard time brain.
In your defense I think that's the clear top 7 right now.
@benshawks08 said in Peyton Manning Game Thread:
@kuballin10 is norm a hall of famer?
Minutes were preset somewhat by self. Norm said he knew who first off the bench was ect. Selfās sees it all at practice so it was somewhat still his lineups
@kuballin10 I didnāt see that get said. Interesting.
@jayballer67 said in Peyton Manning Game Thread:
OK so I know we have to have Juan - -but I'm tellin ya we have to make sure Bobby see's the floor. He just adds a little more of a offensive threat I think. - Juan is such a defensive gem -- but teams play off him some or wil and it's like 4-5 - -bobby at least looks a little more aggressive- -we need some scoring options
This might be Bobby's best offensive game yet. I don't see how they can keep him off the court playing like that. He was brilliant. And if he starts hitting that 3 ball consistently....
Horny Toads survive. Barely. 73-72.
@benshawks08 said in Peyton Manning Game Thread:
@BShark and self often trims it to 7 by the end of the year.
Feels like 8 this year I think. Bob back-up guard but we need a back-up wing. Right now it's Joe, something to monitor though we did also slide KJ over a bit at times I really disliked that.
@benshawks08 I must have blacked out.
@benshawks08 said in Peyton Manning Game Thread:
@FarmerJayhawk I think joe will continue to see the floor. Just to see if heās hot.
I see Joe seeing floor but it tapering off come conference play tbh. Unless we get injured.
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Is this concerning to anyone else? Not loving those comparisons.
@benshawks08 yeah I think heās more Wiggs than any of those guys.
@benshawks08 said in Peyton Manning Game Thread:
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Is this concerning to anyone else? Not loving those comparisons.
No, because the only one of those players who played the same position was Xavier Henry who had a strong freshmen year finishing second in scoring behind Sherron Collins and was north of 40% on his 3 point attempts. If Gradey Dick ends up with similar numbers to Xavier Henry, I'll take that right now.
@BShark said in Peyton Manning Game Thread:
@kuballin10 said in Peyton Manning Game Thread:
@benshawks08 said in Peyton Manning Game Thread:
I think we are seeing why zuby hasnāt seen a lot of early run.
Yeah I retract my comments lol
Something about yada yada trust the hall of famer is something I should do
Zuby will be good eventually. Bundle of energy right now. Like I said reminds me of TRob including the frosh nerves.
Very promising signs from Udeh tonight though.
Udeh looked the part tonight. By Feb heās going to get 25mpg
My thoughts: Gradey Dick is a stud, McCullar will be in contention for B12 DPOY, Jalen Wilson will contend for B12 POY, Harris was tied for 2nd in shot attempts so hopefully that keeps up.
I still think KU needs to get Zach Clemence going to reach their ceiling this year, but with the way Udeh looked, I think Self and staff should look at Clemence at the 4 spot because he has the skill set to play the 4 which I think is his natural position.
@Kcmatt7 said in Peyton Manning Game Thread:
@BShark said in Peyton Manning Game Thread:
@kuballin10 said in Peyton Manning Game Thread:
@benshawks08 said in Peyton Manning Game Thread:
I think we are seeing why zuby hasnāt seen a lot of early run.
Yeah I retract my comments lol
Something about yada yada trust the hall of famer is something I should do
Zuby will be good eventually. Bundle of energy right now. Like I said reminds me of TRob including the frosh nerves.
Very promising signs from Udeh tonight though.
Udeh looked the part tonight. By Feb heās going to get 25mpg
If it does play out this way we will be NICE I feel.
Absolutely have to have him to compete against Duke, IU, UK and the tough big 12
Come tourney time we should know who we are and have been challenged
Udeh has to play the most minutes at the 5
Bobby potentially pushing Juan for split minutes if he can score
Gradey is one of a kind a 6-8 jj redick jump shot, plus midrange game plus ability to drive and catch lobs
Dude is legit but man I hope and think he stays 1 more year he loves KU
Yeah.. It's tough to know how this group will respond when they face the stingy, tenacious teams like Iowa St, West Va., TT, and TCU...
And even harder to know about how they might handle Duke, Baylor and Texas... etc. Lots of tests out on the horizon. But soon enough, we shall see if we can manufacture points when we have to get them.
Way to go, Hawks! Nice way to open the season!
Well, we scored nearly 90 points. I thought scoring would be a big problem for us, at least early on. Glad I was wrong!
I think we all have the same takeaway from the opener⦠son of a bitch can Gradey shoot!!!! Jesus. What a stroke. I canāt ever remember form like that from a freshman at KU. I sure hope he keeps it up (too subtle?).
Iām down on Yesufu. Anybody watch him at Drake? How did he score all those points on the tourney?
If MJ is as advertised, he can take all his minutes.
@BShark any belated comments on KJās rebounding? :)
USC gets manhandled by Enfield's old school FGCU by 13. Sam Houston beats OU on a last second shot. TCU barely gets by Ark Pine Bluff by 1.
@rockchalkjayhawk KJ's offensive rebounding was stellar, but defensive rebounding was deficient. Wilson is the opposite, but he's a different position. So I'm still puzzled why the rebounding mindset on offense doesn't translate to defense for KJ.
@tundrahok said in Peyton Manning Game Thread:
@rockchalkjayhawk KJ's offensive rebounding was stellar, but defensive rebounding was deficient. Wilson is the opposite, but he's a different position. So I'm still puzzled why the rebounding mindset on offense doesn't translate to defense for KJ.
Yup, KJ was in opposite world last night with 8 offensive boards. weird, but nice.
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Peyton Manning Game Thread:
My thoughts: Gradey Dick is a stud, McCullar will be in contention for B12 DPOY, Jalen Wilson will contend for B12 POY, Harris was tied for 2nd in shot attempts so hopefully that keeps up.
I still think KU needs to get Zach Clemence going to reach their ceiling this year, but with the way Udeh looked, I think Self and staff should look at Clemence at the 4 spot because he has the skill set to play the 4 which I think is his natural position.
Actually that's a pretty good idea , hadn't really thought Zac at the 4. That actually might be a really good idea. -- He has the range to shoot in space actually best of the bigs, question is can he defend oppositiion four's ?
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Peyton Manning Game Thread:
My thoughts: Gradey Dick is a stud, McCullar will be in contention for B12 DPOY, Jalen Wilson will contend for B12 POY, Harris was tied for 2nd in shot attempts so hopefully that keeps up.
I still think KU needs to get Zach Clemence going to reach their ceiling this year, but with the way Udeh looked, I think Self and staff should look at Clemence at the 4 spot because he has the skill set to play the 4 which I think is his natural position.
Thats a good idea , actually i think that might be a really good idea. He has the range for shot in open space , probably most flexible of the bigs. Question is can he defend opposition fours in space ?
We have to figure out what's going on right now , think he might have found Coach doghouse. -Poor practices , we know or should you better be at least be average or better to see much floor time with Coach
you better be ready to play both ends. - Something going on , they mentioned as much on loal sports cast today -hope he gets that straight cause I like that idea
@jayballer67 Can he defend opponents 4? No. He cannot. And it looks to me like self thinks the strength of this team is pace and Zach at the 4 would not help that. I think thatās a big reason kj is getting so much run. That and he earned self ultimate trust as a defend everything player.
@benshawks08 said in Peyton Manning Game Thread:
@jayballer67 Can he defend opponents 4? No. He cannot. And it looks to me like self thinks the strength of this team is pace and Zach at the 4 would not help that. I think thatās a big reason kj is getting so much run. That and he earned self ultimate trust as a defend everything player.
At some point and time that defense can only carry a team so far, Maybe Zac can - -maybe he can't. - -The point really is with KJ and I like KJ just as much as the next person BUT KJ poses no threat offensively at this time-that really puts us at a disadvantage - -basically a 3 - 5 type scenario - -KJ at the 4 for sure can't help us. -a team can defend - -defend - -defend - -but if you can't put any pressure on the other team offensively on the other end of the floor if you can't score or if you have two liabilities on the offensive your in big time trouble.
Until KJ can prove he is some kind of an OFFENSIVE threat it's going to cause major problems.. Just like the host & co host of the local sports show here in Topeka said when they see KJ shoot the ball they just cringe I mean sure here in the early non con when you simply just over whelm these lesser lights it's not going to rear it's ugly head as much as when you get deeper and play quality teams - -like Duke - -and other team's where you just don't overwhelm - -where the talent is a wash or even in the other teams favor.
It's all good when we can get out and run and run and run force TO's - BUT when we have to play half court and run offense KJ at this point is a HUGE LIABILITY - -we can NOT just have two scoring liabilities on the floor at the same time - more often then not we are going to struggle to score enough the same problem we have had - -is the problem we still got. - Sure we score middle 80's now against these cupcakes - - but against league - -Kentucky -- Duke - and other bluebloods - then we easily can be in trouble - so it's really a wash if anything. KJ might be better defensively but offensively - -ummm no so pick your poison.
If everyone sees that kj and Juan when played together kill the offense Iād love to know what the coaches think because we know theyāve had the same conversations amongst them.
@kuballin10 itās the early in the season āif we make the other team play worse we winā kind of lineup. I wouldnāt worry about it being any kind of mainstay