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Just in case anyone else missed the memo, the holiday actually starts Wednesday. KU's game is at 11 am on ESPN. NC State's offense is led by two senior guards and a sophmore guard, but the team was just 11-21 last year. Lots of close games against good teams though. The Pack is 4-0 this year with wins over Austin Peay, Campbell, Florida Int'l and Elon. So, a much different opponent with little scoring from its bigs. Seems like a good game to work Udeh and Zuby into the offense.

@stoptheflop And then hopefully, KU-Wisconsin! Go Jayhawks, but if ever once there was a game I wouldn't mind them losing it'd be that one!

@wissox do we have to ban you for 24 hrs?❤️💙🌾🌾🌾🌾🌾 that or nothing!👏👏👏👏

@Crimsonorblue22 lol I would agree but wissox is too nice of a guy to do that

@kuballin10 I'm hoping he's drunk. Otherwise, I'm with @Crimsonorblue22

Will Wednesday's game be sponsored by the NCAA and IARP?

My post was just to alert others who might not have seen the early starting time. Lots of us are working Wednesday and may need to record the game.

MJ Rice had kidney stones Saturday. Practiced but no word if he will play

@stoptheflop

I was able to negotiate to leave work before the 12pm tip but thanks for starting this. I was going to this evening if no one had.

Kenpom says NC St #69 overall with #46 offense and #101 defense. Smith is good. Some inflated stats on some of their guards having faced easy comp

@BeddieKU23 said in 11 AM Start, Wed NC STATE:

MJ Rice had kidney stones Saturday. Practiced but no word if he will play

I've had those multiple times. - My 1st experience the Dr told me that he didn't want me to do any extra driving , I ask why is that & he told me not only could they but chances are I could black out from the pain.
Also was told once you gt them the chances of you getting them again is a lot more likely. - Which I have , have had 6 different encounters , when the nurses found out what was wrong they just kept saying how sorry they were. Had heard previously from different ones saying kidney stones was as close to as far as pain wise was as close a man was going to get like a woman in labor with labor pains. Yet I had some nurses tell me that kidney stones were actually worse. - Saying on a level about the only things more painful then kidney stones might be gull stones.

All I know those dam things hurt like you know what. I feel for MJ - my 1st experience was before they had lithotripsy - -I laid in the hospital for a week. Finally the Dr came in and said he was hoping i would pass them on my own - -but I didn't , he said they were going to have to go in and get them. - -I won't go into detail about how they had to do that but I'll just tell you that wasn't fun.

I'm not sure why MJ wouldn't be playing tomorrow. With Lithotripsy , I went in -- in and out same day procedure , you go in they put you out - -they zap you break them up and you go home. Not really any lasting effects -he had them Saturday - -for sure should be fine. - -after effects only last maybe a day -- two tops. --The worst I had was Dr thought I had 3 stones , went through the procedure but he told me we would have to come back as I ended up with six and he had put s much current into me that he could for one time. when they was busting them up. -- -MJ should be fine , might be a little sore but only at certain times if you know what I mean --

@BeddieKU23 Self didn't say if he passed those stones or what. Hopefully he did. Wouldn't want to have surgery so far from home.

Ahh. kidney stones. that explains his mystery illness.
yikes. sorry MJ!

Watching world cup instead, hopefully KU plays better than the last time out.

@Crimsonorblue22 said in 11 AM Start, Wed NC STATE:

@BeddieKU23 Self didn't say if he passed those stones or what. Hopefully he did. Wouldn't want to have surgery so far from home.

like I said - -even if he doesn't pass on his own , it's not that big of thing anymore - -go in for lithotripsy and out the same day. - -within a day you wouldn't even know you had them

Coach Self had an interview that was played on one of the tournaments today - -think it was the Maui , anyways he was talking about how he didn't like not being able to Coach the 1st 4 games but understood.

Paid Grady the ultimate compliment. - -Saying Grady is the best shooter he has EVER been around , that's saying something. -Also talked about how he liked the team and said we had a couple of guys that could get on a roll and carry KU a long ways. - -Then Seth said that Grady is one of the best hardest cutters in the game he has ever seen , how Grady is able to read Screens.

Coach said actually Grady haad already saved KU in two games this year. - -Enjoy him while we got him guys , he not gonna be here long

@Crimsonorblue22 I'll provide an expert scouting report on how to beat the Badgers if it comes to that.

@kuballin10 Thanks, I admit it, I am really nice.

Humility is my problem.

@wissox lol! Pride (I know you said humility but similar in my mind) is the root of many issues (sin) as you know based on your daily Bible readings if I can recall correctly. :)

@kuballin10 yes pride goeth before destruction, and in my golf game par goeth before destruction. They go together. Tomorrow mornings Bible study will commence at 8

@wissox said in 11 AM Start, Wed NC STATE:

@kuballin10 yes pride goeth before destruction, and in my golf game par goeth before destruction. They go together. Tomorrow mornings Bible study will commence at 8

Ha golf now you’re speaking my language there!

Deal I’ll be there! Lol

@kuballin10 You play much? I wish I could play more but I don't live near courses I like. the only close course is called Lost Marsh, but I call it Lost Balls. I can lose more money there in golf balls than a gambling addict in Vegas playing the tables.

@wissox I try to play once every week or two weeks in the summers. I have two small kids and a wife who actually likes me (I am not negative around her like I am on this board lol) so they are more important than my golf game. I was scratch in high school and college but now probably a 3-4.

I am going to plug a company I’d recommend if you struggle with the game try this method (I’ve tried literally everything from when I was 14 until now and I’m in my 30’s)……Graves Golf. They teach a one plane moe Norman golf swing. It will save you years on your back and biomechanically (how the body should naturally hit a ball with a stick) is the best and easiest way to repeat a swing.

Don’t try to swing like Tiger or Rory or whoever those guys have God given gifts we were not blessed with.

@kuballin10 Thanks, the biggest impediment to my golf game is just I can't play more than about 10 times a season. It's ok, although I love playing it's just not high priority enough to go to ranges and all that to try to learn a swing.

@wissox understandable

These guys are actual teachers so they have indoor training you can do before even playing.

They took a guy who was not good and helped him win a state amateur because he committed to doing their indoor drills in the winter

Go to Todd graves golf YouTube and watch his stuff it’s all free. You’d be surprised with little practice you could pick it up easier.

I get not having time though to learn a swing this one those is by far the easiest out there

Self's presser from the Bahamas. Hits home!

"The first two games were actually okay, the Duke & Southern Utah ugh I didn't feel quite as comfortable watching from the living-room as I did the first two but the guys did fine, and certainly we have a long ways to go before becoming a really good team. I think me stepping away at least in that moment in time maybe a positive for us because I could see it from a little bit different perspective.

I know I saw it from a fans perspective and I know why Fans are so crazy because they have absolutely no control on what's going on. At least as a coach you think you got a little bit even though you don't have much and so um I liked it better when I had a little control."

Billy Eugene, never leave.

@jayballer67 said in 11 AM Start, Wed NC STATE:

Coach Self had an interview that was played on one of the tournaments today - -think it was the Maui , anyways he was talking about how he didn't like not being able to Coach the 1st 4 games but understood.

Paid Grady the ultimate compliment. - -Saying Grady is the best shooter he has EVER been around , that's saying something. -Also talked about how he liked the team and said we had a couple of guys that could get on a roll and carry KU a long ways. - -Then Seth said that Grady is one of the best hardest cutters in the game he has ever seen , how Grady is able to read Screens.

Coach said actually Grady haad already saved KU in two games this year. - -Enjoy him while we got him guys , he not gonna be here long

Gradey = Remy's long lost son...lol.

@Jethro said in 11 AM Start, Wed NC STATE:

@jayballer67 said in 11 AM Start, Wed NC STATE:

Coach Self had an interview that was played on one of the tournaments today - -think it was the Maui , anyways he was talking about how he didn't like not being able to Coach the 1st 4 games but understood.

Paid Grady the ultimate compliment. - -Saying Grady is the best shooter he has EVER been around , that's saying something. -Also talked about how he liked the team and said we had a couple of guys that could get on a roll and carry KU a long ways. - -Then Seth said that Grady is one of the best hardest cutters in the game he has ever seen , how Grady is able to read Screens.

Coach said actually Grady haad already saved KU in two games this year. - -Enjoy him while we got him guys , he not gonna be here long

Gradey = Remy's long lost son...lol.

I really miss Remy Martin. Later in the season when he would enter the game, I enjoyed the energy he brought into the game both on offense and defense. I wish him all the best going forward and thank him for his considerable contributions to our National Championship.

Self mentioned NC St has shot 35 3's on avg so far this season. Also thinks outside of Texas their backcourt is the most explosive we'll face all season. I hope neither of those things materialize to be anything

@BeddieKU23 If they get hot we will lose. If we don’t run them off the line it will be a long afternoon.

We’ve been close to losing to so bad teams so I won’t be surprised with the outcome today.

Offensively we are abysmal.

@kuballin10 said in 11 AM Start, Wed NC STATE:

@BeddieKU23 If they get hot we will lose. If we don’t run them off the line it will be a long afternoon.

We’ve been close to losing to so bad teams so I won’t be surprised with the outcome today.

Offensively we are abysmal.

LOL. That's a good one.

Will be on a plane for the game. Ugh

@kuballin10 said in 11 AM Start, Wed NC STATE:

@BeddieKU23 If they get hot we will lose. If we don’t run them off the line it will be a long afternoon.

We’ve been close to losing to so bad teams so I won’t be surprised with the outcome today.

Offensively we are abysmal.

They are not good.

It is a neutral game so anything can happen. Jalen shows up with his usual game and KU wins. He gets help and this could be an easy one

@Jethro anything can happen!

What’s your thoughts on it today?

Another thing to note.

That ballroom they play in leads to poor outside shooting a lot of the time.

Wonder if that will impact both teams today

@FarmerJayhawk said in 11 AM Start, Wed NC STATE:

Will be on a plane for the game. Ugh

Paying for wifi?

@BeddieKU23 I hope you are right!

The same way I was frustrated (and still am with Juan’s scoring) I can feel it shift to Kevin. Seeing Baylor Schierman, Hunter, Ricky council and Ramey all lighting it up this year sucks with regards to what we have.

Kevin’s defense is great but offensively we need that second/third scorer next to Jalen (since Gradey goes stretches without getting a touch or shot up).

Having a Hunter or Ramey would have been awesome - another ball handler that can flat out score.

Council is a 6-6 Ochai (no, not as good though) who can shoot, drive and catch lobs.

Baylor is your standard 6-6 not great defensively but makes up for it offensively kind of guy.

All that and we got in my opinion say the 4th out of 5 guys if you’d ranked them

I'm not dissatisfied or surprised by Juan's 9 pts per game average. On offense his strengths are ball handling, setting up the offense and getting assists. Do we need a third penetrating guard after Jalon and Gradey? I hope Kevin will settle in and increase his points; I think that's going to happen soon. And then, we all know the 5 spot is our mystery position. We'll just have to wait and see who finally emerges as our best option at the 5. That will depend on which player gives us the best advantage on defense and then whether the same player helps on offense. Oh, this is going to be fun.

@kuballin10 said in 11 AM Start, Wed NC STATE:

@Jethro anything can happen!

What’s your thoughts on it today?

I think your analysis was more wishful thinking than reality. NC State has some firepower with Joiner, and Smith can shoot them in and out of games. But they don't play any defense, they can't run outside of 2 players, and they're sloppy with the ball. And their center looks like his health will be at risk if he tries to keep up with us. Vegas line opened at KU - 8.5, and the line has moved to -9. Bill steps in for the first time this year, so I imagine we'll see a pretty intense effort on our part- not the sleepwalk we witnessed against Southern Utah that has you so concerned.

@BeddieKU23 I doubt it. $10 is kinda steep. I do have the game recorded so I can watch when I land if it’s worth watching.

Also I’m contractually obligated as a UNC student to say state bloooows. Worst fans I’ve ever been around were in Raleigh.

Let's go boys

Boom!

Gardey is going to red and black shoes. Hopefully, the nasty pink ones are retired...lol.

HCBS has returned

Is he going to wear his glasses?

Slow start

Awful

Kevin nice take but you actually have to finish a layup dude

Kj got all our points what an athlete

Everyone other than KJ needs to practice lay-ups

@KirkIsMyHinrich the offense looks like it should against actual D1 athletes. We can’t score and our best shooter is yet to take a shot.

Playing a good team we should be down 8-10 already

@Jethro these will be our starts most times unless Jalen is hot

@kuballin10 said in 11 AM Start, Wed NC STATE:

@KirkIsMyHinrich the offense looks like it should against actual D1 athletes. We can’t score and our best shooter is yet to take a shot.

Playing a good team we should be down 8-10 already

@Jethro these will be our starts most times unless Jalen is hot

NC State is playing good defense, but we've also missed a few lay-ups and close jump shots. If we make those it frees up Gradey

McCullar looks like the version that we don't want

We can’t run pick and roll against the most unathletic big I’ve ever seen

State avgs 89 pts so we need more Groovy 3's.

@BeddieKU23 he should be in the doghouse but all Bill sees is 1 side of the floor

Yessss!!

@KirkIsMyHinrich bill had to call set plays just to get him a shot

He needs to hunt his shot and attack

Bobby and Juan means it’s the Wilson and Gradey show

Bill gonna see Dick as bad D instead of what he’s done…come on William

JWill what a great basket.

@Zabudda said in 11 AM Start, Wed NC STATE:

JWill what a great basket.

Yeah that was nice

Bobby sit

GRADEY

Wow

Jalen that was such weak crap. Hold onto the ball

Oh geez check this lineup

Guys learn a bounce pass unbelievable. Nc state has scouted the lobs

lol @ outofbounds call.

GRADEY

He needs more shots even….

MCCULLAR!

Wow Kevin finally

Kevin! Nice

@Jethro HE HAS to get going

He has to be a 10-12 ppg guy

RUNNNNN

I’d be okay with Gradey taking all KUs shots tonight.

Joe is terrible

get joe out of there....

@BeddieKU23 said in 11 AM Start, Wed NC STATE:

Joe is terrible

gmta

We need MJ to get healthy

MJ athletic 6-5 Rice should get some minutes

How about Zuby Bill to pull a board. KJ ain’t doing that

Oh lord, who are these guys in white uniforms. TOs everywhere. Oh lordy, lordy.

The turnovers from the guards are most concerning. Beyond sloppy

Casey morsell making 3s. I know I've entered the twilight zone now @BShark

We should be up by ten and down by 10 I think.

Gradey getting his shot blocked seems impossible given how he gathers and releases. Fluke

@BeddieKU23 guards look scared
Scared to drive
Scared to make mistakes

Unless you are Juan not much leash

My God Kevin. Awful

Zuby in
Zuby board

Zuby needs more he was open for lob and their D for once wasn’t ready

Is Rice sick?

@KirkIsMyHinrich said in 11 AM Start, Wed NC STATE:

Is Rice sick?

He had kidney stones and is recovering from covid previously too

@BeddieKU23 said in 11 AM Start, Wed NC STATE:

@KirkIsMyHinrich said in 11 AM Start, Wed NC STATE:

Is Rice sick?

He had kidney stones and is recovering from covid previously too

That sounds like a spectacularly bad time.

@KirkIsMyHinrich

Also think he's got some proving to do to Bill before as well. Hasn't been a good start for him

@BeddieKU23 and Bill favored him over the guys I’ve listed in the other thread. In a game where offense is more important he chooses the defensive guy

Works well for the warriors and our team last year (offensive beating people)

With better players you want more shots and to win 85-80

When you Virginia it and slow it way down that’s how you lose to bad teams and those who labor because you minimize possessions, shots ect

Think the titans running the ball limiting possessions in football - same logic

Jalen should have 15

Such a bad pass Juan why

Nice pass Juan way to make up for it

LMAO Bill on the sideline.

BOOM

Jalen make easy shots, guards stop throwing dumb passes

Good shot Juan

Jalen owned leg day this summer. His thighs are trunks

Looked good juan!

Juando 3 maker!

Last year we started off poorly on lobs. This year is much worse. It's kinda funny in a F-bomb sorta way.

Get Gradey back in

Zuby catches it in the paint and it’s back to the basket and pass lol our bigs are so bad

Games gotta slow down for them

Gonna take awhile

Wilson off

Circus on one end and a zoo on the other.

Free throw shooting sucks

@Zabudda haha that made me actually laugh

Adam’s needs to attack his man off the dribble with his right hand - he’s quicker than most bigs guarding him

Harris so good!

Wilson has had like 4 or 5 shots go in and out today

@Crimsonorblue22

If I was an opposing coach he would scare me.

Range!!!!

Great ending

Gradey is a cheat code tonight.

Wow gradey. There are no words

Little Larry

I am absolutely devastated to report that Gradey set the sliders all the way to the right today.

0 bench points for the half. That has got to improve

It'll improve when MJ gets 100%

@stoptheflop said in 11 AM Start, Wed NC STATE:

0 bench points for the half. That has got to improve

I mean we had a bunch of sloppy attempts from the bench at the rim and turnovers

@Crimsonorblue22 said in 11 AM Start, Wed NC STATE:

Harris so good!

That pass ahead to KJ in the lane for the dunk shows why Harris is a very good point guard

@Zabudda defensively yes, offensively I’d leave his man with a foot in the paint daring him to shoot as many threes as he’d like

Literally don’t guard him so there is no pick and roll with our bigs because Juan’s guy is standing at the free throw line

Free the 3 has finally been heard by HCBS!!! Been delayed a little bit but just finished watching the first half. Wow, that's some fun basketball. Not sure who's playing better Dick or Harris, but wow, both of them have been superb.

@stoptheflop and the one to Wilson…he slowed at the three point line and created SPACE before passing

He’s a legit true pg but we need him to score more

Because it's never too early to get pissed at Joe Lunardi he has us as a 2 seed and we don't even get to play in the regional in KC.

@Crimsonorblue22 and he gets outta the doghouse

Our bench bigs got 1 board

Guards no points and I won’t bother to count the turnovers

Bobby and Joe are just more dribblers literally don’t do much.

Nc state coach should go triangle and 2 on Wilson and Gradey. Dare our bigs and Kevin/Juan to beat them

If those guys make shots you tip your cap and take the L but most likely you’d be in the game in the end with a lesser team

Fast break pull up 3 pointers. May be the first in Bill Selfs reign.

5/18 from 2 9/14 from 3 very normal game.

This team is gonna be special.

Kevin has to wake up, and start asserting himself. That would help.

DuJuan Harris' 2nd turnover of the year, so it's not all smiles and hugs in Jayhawk land.

We are going to need Juan/Bob to take and make more floaters. I think both are capable but you have to prove you can do it to open up the lob.

@wissox said in 11 AM Start, Wed NC STATE:

DuJuan Harris' 2nd turnover of the year, so it's not all smiles and hugs in Jayhawk land.

LMAO. Just a delicious post...

Why can't we make lay-ups damn

Wtf kj

zero bench points

Dang Dajuan now has 2 TO's today

Bullcrap morsell

Dang Dawan now has 3 TO's today

Good grief with these sloppy passes and turnovers from our leaders

@Zabudda based on what?

@BShark just dribblers don’t hardly look to score

@kuballin10

My educated guess?

Can't start a half anymore poor then that.

Stop throwing lobs that are not there seriously.

We're throwing lobs like we still have Doke

@BShark said in 11 AM Start, Wed NC STATE:

Stop throwing lobs that are not there seriously.

Even when it was there the bigs miss anyway

@Zabudda figured you’d have some substance

No inside presence

Two guys that can score

3 that can’t shoot and don’t often even look to score

A bench that can’t score, board and half of them don’t look to score either

I’m not seeing it

@kuballin10

Substance? Really?

Flop

@Zabudda yes, just asking it being a message board what you’d seen from this team that says we are going to be really good

I outlined my thoughts was honestly curious what you are seeing because my eyes aren’t see it

KJ!!!!

Doing what I said go hard right not a 5 can keep up with you bro!!!

Nothing wrong with a guy thinking this team is going to be special.

@wissox I agree

Nothing wrong with asking what he was seeing that makes him think that

I like how McCullar is playing today

@KirkIsMyHinrich ****this half

Kevin shows flashes. We need him to become an assassin

@KirkIsMyHinrich said in 11 AM Start, Wed NC STATE:

I like how McCullar is playing today

Yeah like I said he is better than he has shown so far. Currently taking over.

@BShark said in 11 AM Start, Wed NC STATE:

@KirkIsMyHinrich said in 11 AM Start, Wed NC STATE:

I like how McCullar is playing today

Yeah like I said he is better than he has shown so far. Currently taking over.

His toughness is good for a team like NC State

@KirkIsMyHinrich He just impacts winning as long as he gets back up to his normal offensive output we will be fine. Especially if we can get MJ Rice involved too.

Udeh has no idea how to defend

@BShark said in 11 AM Start, Wed NC STATE:

@KirkIsMyHinrich He just impacts winning as long as he gets back up to his normal offensive output we will be fine. Especially if we can get MJ Rice involved too.

As long as he doesn't turn the ball over 8 times.

@BeddieKU23 said in 11 AM Start, Wed NC STATE:

Udeh has no idea how to defend

Lol yeah. No question who our best big is (KJ)

Two fouls on Godzilla.

@BShark said in 11 AM Start, Wed NC STATE:

@BeddieKU23 said in 11 AM Start, Wed NC STATE:

Udeh has no idea how to defend

Lol yeah. No question who our best big is (KJ)

He leaves his man instantly when someone drives. Drives me nuts

What's Clemence doing today?

@KirkIsMyHinrich said in 11 AM Start, Wed NC STATE:

What's Clemence doing today?

Had his first practice yesterday

Jalen letting some misses get to him

@BeddieKU23 said in 11 AM Start, Wed NC STATE:

Jalen letting some misses get to him

I'm letting his misses get to me, too

Full of crap ref

Wow

love that play...

That big dude makes Gradey look like a popsicle stick.

Woah!

bill should take credit for it

Did they think Juan was out?

Great D

Big d

Good job jalen

make the free throws...

Maddest I've ever seen anyone get about an oob call. Didn't even look like he was out

@Crimsonorblue22 I think it was Jalen whom he thought was out

NO FOUL COME ON

We've only made 7 shots inside the arc

Ha ha

GRADEY

Udeh, your defensive awareness sucks but I love that your playing through it

Gradey!!

@BeddieKU23 said in 11 AM Start, Wed NC STATE:

Udeh, your defensive awareness sucks but I love that your playing through it

His catch and bucket will be on Sportscenter...

I think it's close but Zuby might be a bit more ready than Udeh currently. Like what I've seen from him when he has been able to get minutes today.

I need to see a nice little successful lob play please.

How many shots has KU missed at the rim? I'll tell you: Too damn many.

Yep

58-49

Walk on them?

Didn't think they were gonna call that

Lol wow. He jumped into kevin

Atta guy

@stoptheflop 8-28 inside the arc

All ball what ev

Whistle happy

That was a really bad possession. Ball never approached the lane

Wow that was bad

McCullar ain't built for that shot

Lack of hustle

Not having Gradey out there sure is a choice.

They are getting much better looks - getting into the paint too easily...

the growing pains of early season games...they really suck! We will improve...lol.

Have to adjust to the 1 man offense

We haven't shot nearly enough 3s this half.

Jalen is gonna have to step it up

Just went back and looked at the last two results. Duke game we had 28 buckets inside the arc, Utah we had 27. Today we have 8.

Entire team other than KJ has made just 4 buckets inside the arc. 4-21.....

@BShark the Bobby - Juan - KJ - Kev offense can’t score and is giving up the lead? Color me shocked

@wissox said in 11 AM Start, Wed NC STATE:

Just went back and looked at the last two results. Duke game we had 28 buckets inside the arc, Utah we had 27. Today we have 8.

we've missed 20 layups.

We've held them to 59 and held ourselves to 61.

@Jethro Maybe they didn't do a layup line coming out of the locker room

@kuballin10 Yeah our guards look disinterested...

Alright Juan make these

Money

Fans in the stands look like they're part of some Bahamian science experiment

@BShark our guards look like what they are….non scorers

Offensively we are Wilson and Gradey

Zero post presence unless it’s a dump off or lob

If Juan and Bobby are going to play the 1-2 more neither scores with any consistency or can shoot

They are pass first pg’s - that flat out won’t work

@Jethro if we make it by today which I said our bad O would catch up with us while you scoffed we will get smoked by either team tomorrow

WALK WALK WALK

Godzilla Jr scored.

Bull crap ref

Bill Self is like ok, guys, what's with making all these 3's, we've got to get back to shooting in the lane

Jalen taking over in crunch time

@Jethro if we make it by today which I said our bad O would catch up with us while you scoffed we will get smoked by either team tomorrow

They just didn't have you as coach and we're all suffering for it.

Almost!

That screen on harris

@Jethro knew you’d come around!

Can’t coach bad offensive players to suddenly be able to score so this will be pretty common for us

Harris “mason” jr!

@Crimsonorblue22 I'll finish the sentence for you. "That screen on Harris......was a foul"

Harris is a dude and he's our dude

@Crimsonorblue22 said in 11 AM Start, Wed NC STATE:

That screen on harris

Part of why kids get hurt

Bobby is playing a lot of minutes this half. I'm not sure that's a good thing

@BeddieKU23 he’s made huge clutch plays

no Remy to save him this year

@stoptheflop maybe it'll pay off

@stoptheflop said in 11 AM Start, Wed NC STATE:

Bobby is playing a lot of minutes this half. I'm not sure that's a good thing

Not a smart foul by him. Bated a driver to driver for a 1 and 1

The game and refs are both a little sloppy. Not biased, just sloppy.

@BeddieKU23 said in 11 AM Start, Wed NC STATE:

Harris is a dude and he's our dude

Double figures again today.

@dylans it’s the Bahamas - vacation for everyone down there. They won’t be the reason we’d lose…should blow nc crap out by 15-20 instead in this dogfight

That is their first missed FT - 16-17

@kuballin10 Not worried about losing. Just an ugly game.

@dylans up 3 with 3:39 is anyones ballgame

Could have been a 6 pt game..

Throws🤮

@DCHawker I’m too scared to check ours

@kuballin10 Young one of little faith.

@DCHawker said in 11 AM Start, Wed NC STATE:

That is their first missed FT - 16-17

We have been surprisingly good from the line today as well.

Rebounds!

Good FT defense

@BeddieKU23 said in 11 AM Start, Wed NC STATE:

Rebounds!

Will be an issue all year as long as we are forced to play KJ at the 5.

Burns reminds me of Zion

Whew

@BShark thankfully!!! Had been surprising bad up to now.

Beautiful

Sweet Gradey.

Wow and 1

JW should have dished that...

refs are doing everything possible to keep it close. clear continuation.

@wissox said in 11 AM Start, Wed NC STATE:

Good FT defense

It had been bad up to that point

Double-double for JW...

Love this team already. They got what it takes

Foul travel bucket? Why wave it off?

@Jethro I think we'd be screaming and throwing cyber missiles at the refs if they'd call that a continuation against us.

@DCHawker said in 11 AM Start, Wed NC STATE:

Double-double for JW...

Not his best day shooting but the effort is always there.

@wissox said in 11 AM Start, Wed NC STATE:

Good FT defense

Law of averages

Ha ha stretching

@wissox said in 11 AM Start, Wed NC STATE:

@Jethro I think we'd be screaming and throwing cyber missiles at the refs if they'd call that a continuation against us.

We're not the SEC- we don't blame everything on the refs...

@BShark said in 11 AM Start, Wed NC STATE:

@DCHawker said in 11 AM Start, Wed NC STATE:

Double-double for JW...

Not his best day shooting but the effort is always there.

He’s a dog!

You got a better chance of getting hit by lightning inside then taking a rebound from jalen

@Jethro You were just blaming the refs as part of some conspiracy to keep it close!!

Juan put Smith in hell.

Stupid foul 35 ft from the basket...

Come on make em

How was that on Harris and that should have been over the back on Wilson's board

No foul blind ref

Yikes no KJ. Udeh needs a lot of seasoning. Zuby looks to have a more traditional 5 style.

So no bigs

NC State guards have been body seeking all day. Bobby needs to give him a little more cushion on that

@wissox said in 11 AM Start, Wed NC STATE:

@Jethro You were just blaming the refs as part of some conspiracy to keep it close!!

Tennessee is still blaming the refs after getting beat 63-38. 'Tucky blamed the refs when they got beat by the Zags 88-72. Arkansas is still crying about the refs, even though Creighton shot 58% against them. There are levels and degrees of ref griping...lol.

@dylans said in 11 AM Start, Wed NC STATE:

So no bigs

Think this is our best course of action honestly.

How is that a jump ball omg

That one was weak though

NC State mauled JW

These refs really suck man

Refs suck

What are the refs doing lol

That's game

5-0...just win, baby

@BShark said in 11 AM Start, Wed NC STATE:

What are the refs doing lol

Doing the normal and on purpose

Rock chalk all the way down in the Caribbean

When's our next game?

10 am

Lol

I don't know people, we've shot 1/3rd more FT's than the other team and we're crying about refs just after Jethro says they only do that in the SEC.

Solid win

I need a break! Holy cow.

@wissox said in 11 AM Start, Wed NC STATE:

I don't know people, we've shot 1/3rd more FT's than the other team and we're crying about refs just after Jethro says they only do that in the SEC.

Those egg sucking dogs!

@Crimsonorblue22 said in 11 AM Start, Wed NC STATE:

10 am

9AM for me :\

Shot 41% and won. Take it every time

51 FTs taken. Way too many to be an enjoyable game to watch.

@BeddieKU23 said in 11 AM Start, Wed NC STATE:

Shot 41% and won. Take it every time

Bill W

I'm gonna be late for dinner, my mom will be mad!

What day is the next game?

@KirkIsMyHinrich my mom wouldn't be mad!

@dylans said in 11 AM Start, Wed NC STATE:

What day is the next game?

Tomorrow. I have the internet too. Smh. And the next day. Bonus.

@Jethro 😂 not top 10 take there

Only 4 bench points. Udeh 2 and Bobby 2. And it doesn't look like KU will get MJ back anytime soon.

I'd really like to see Rice healthy. Getting worried about him as it's seemingly something new each time.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/boxscore/_/gameId/401483423 ↗

UGLY so far between Dayton and Wisconsin

@BShark If you think defense is ugly...!!

Essegian looks like a confident shooter @wissox

Tech was down by double digits, and somehow cut it to 4 against Ohio St. Good game.

@BeddieKU23 Yeah, he's a freshman and right now really their only confident shooter. Wisconsins defense is what KU will have to solve should this result hold up. Matt Painter was asked who's the best defender in the BIG and he said Wisconsin.

@wissox said in 11 AM Start, Wed NC STATE:

@BShark If you think defense is ugly...!!

If Wisconsin wins, we finally will take on the Badgers after all these years.

@wissox said in 11 AM Start, Wed NC STATE:

@BeddieKU23 Yeah, he's a freshman and right now really their only confident shooter. Wisconsins defense is what KU will have to solve should this result hold up. Matt Painter was asked who's the best defender in the BIG and he said Wisconsin.

Yeah their defense looks pretty good.

If KU makes the pace of the game to their liking I think we give them more then they can handle. Could be one of those 1 or 2 possession type games. Going to need the freshman bigs to have an impact guarding Crowl (potentially)

Gard keeps his cool with the refs and Dayton coach doesn't and it cost them 2 points.

@wissox said in 11 AM Start, Wed NC STATE:

Gard keeps his cool with the refs and Dayton coach doesn't and it cost them 2 points.

Meant to be for the other game thread! LOL

This might be the worst game I've watched this year which includes a Louisville game!

Like Kobe Elvis's game.

Portal note for future*

@BShark Welcome to life as a Badger fan!

@wissox I fully expect them to give Kansas hell too, might even win it.

@BShark This is torture to watch. Got to find a way to finish this

I welcome the undisciplined approach Wisconsin has to offense

Wisconsin offense is the worst I've ever seen it this year. They lost some scorers in Davison and Johnny Davis and the big Crowl has zero hops. Tyler Wahl is pretty crafty around the rim but defenses are keeping him well guarded.

If we make shots we can beat Wisconsin. This is Bill’s dream matchup it will be in the 50’s tomorrow 🤮

@wissox said in 11 AM Start, Wed NC STATE:

Wisconsin offense is the worst I've ever seen it this year. They lost some scorers in Davison and Johnny Davis and the big Crowl has zero hops. Tyler Wahl is pretty crafty around the rim but defenses are keeping him well guarded.

So their offense looks like ours. We'll call this battle..."the mud bowl".

@BeddieKU23 Looks like Braun from the side!

Finally! KU-Bucky! Dream matchup!!

14-59 from the floor for Wisconsin today in a WIN.

@Jethro said in 11 AM Start, Wed NC STATE:

@wissox said in 11 AM Start, Wed NC STATE:

Wisconsin offense is the worst I've ever seen it this year. They lost some scorers in Davison and Johnny Davis and the big Crowl has zero hops. Tyler Wahl is pretty crafty around the rim but defenses are keeping him well guarded.

So their offense looks like ours. We'll call this battle..."the mud bowl".

But with far less individual talent is the thing. Will still be a slog though no doubt because they defend well.

@wissox said in 11 AM Start, Wed NC STATE:

Finally! KU-Bucky! Dream matchup!!

You'll be able to argue with yourself in real time. " Go KU!" // "Oh be quiet...go Bucky"!!!

We need MJ to recover for some scoring from the bench.

I'm thinking we force them out of their pace and this gets into the 70's.

Harris had 14 today. You know there may be a few games this yr he hits 20+. He is improving on the offensive end.

You know what guys & listening to Jimmy Dykes & Seth Greenberg and have to agree both of them really like KU- they saying they think KU is going to be fine. - Have to agree I think we are going to be fine and a challenge as the year goes on,

As the year goes on as our young big's develop if we can get anything from them at all if we can say get our 5 to say get us even 8-10 points a game grab some rebounds were gonna be dangerous. - Like they said KU has a group of athletic 5-6 - 6'7 -6'8 guys that cause matchup problems , we have a pretty dam good point guard. I like em guys-- were gonna have some close games everyone does - -give our big's a little time to develop some let the game so down for them adjust to the speed of the game , Bill does a really good job developing these guys

Don't know if it's been mentioned but Grady Dick has scored 92 points in his first five game-- - that's the most by a KU freshman in the last 25 years

Also - -dam - we have to play at 10:00 a.m. CST tomorrow - - MERCY

The one glaring thing right now is - -in order for us to REALLY be a big big challenge is - - we just have to get some production from the Bench - -today we got 4 points - -that's not going to get it all year , I know MJ gonna help BUT dam he has to get on the floor to be able to do tha - -I just don't see why he couldn't play today , I know he had kidney stones but dam that was Saturday - -no reason that should of kept him off the floor tody - -easy easy procedure to take care of with little after effects. - Plus where was Clemance today ? - -Still hurting from the nose ? - -Maybe more to that then that, I can see him transferring out soon actually

@jayballer67 watch Bill he was good for 6 minutes here - https://m. ↗

There was a much bigger crowd for the Wisc. Dayton game. I wonder why KU as the highest seed plays the earliest game.

@stoptheflop

Get the most rest but who knows if that makes any difference.

@BeddieKU23 wasnt able to watch the whole game but loved what i saw. Hes becoming a real menace on offense.

I was pretty satisfied with this game. Seems we often get knocked out early in these fall distant tourneys where there is a beach.

Self was already sunburned.

We've been talking about Self's impact on the actual game. I think he made a difference today. I think he helped keep Dajuan settled down and it is Dajuan's show.

Anyways... glad to get the win and look forward to a game with Whiskey.

@drgnslayr said in 11 AM Start, Wed NC STATE:

I was pretty satisfied with this game. Seems we often get knocked out early in these fall distant tourneys where there is a beach.

Self was already sunburned.

We've been talking about Self's impact on the actual game. I think he made a difference today. I think he helped keep Dajuan settled down and it is Dajuan's show.

Anyways... glad to get the win and look forward to a game with Whiskey.

I noticed Coach's red complexion too, but I think it's from higher blood pressure during the game. I noticed the redness during games last year too.

Wisconsin beat Kensucky a few years ago in the tourney semi final game.
The year Kensucky was supposed to go undefeated 40-0. They went 38-1...lol.

@Hawk69 one of my great moments as a sports fan.

Well was reading this this morning that was put out by Wisconsin media.- -Talking about FIVE crazy things that stuck out from their game yesterday , so thought I would share what they said :
Some of the things mentioned , stats : -- Wisconsin only had a total of 7 assists yesterday - - - They went 6 --27 from the three yesterday . - -Wisconsin only shot 23.7 from the field for the game yesterday and won.

the two teams shot 10 - -54 from the three yesterday. - -Dayton had more turnovers ( 17 ) then fg's ( 16 ) for the game . - -Wisconsin was 1 - -17 in their last fg's . , and Wisconsin didn't score in the final three minutes and seventeen seconds and still won.
Wisconsin picked Connor E . as their player of the game. His stats for the game ? - - -13 points - - -3 - -16 from the field - - & 2 -4 from the three. -What a game mercy

@Hawk69 Who won the tourney that year? It wasn’t Wisconsin. Big letdown kinda like the Chiefs after they beat the Bills last year. Sucks playing the best game before the final, wrong team ends up champs too often.

@dylans That was the biggest letdown after one of the greatest moments I've ever experienced. A lot of bucketeers were offering me comfort and solace after the game because most wanted UW to beat Duke almost as badly as i did!

@wissox oddly I’m glad Duke won as it makes them even more unlikeable and Wisconsin more likable. I would not expect you’d feel the same.

@dylans That year Wisconsin beat Oregon, North Carolina, Arizona and undefeated Kentucky in the tourney. Usually that would be enough to win it all.

@focojayhawk Luck of the draw. Unfortunately for Wisconsin they weren’t good enough to win all 6. Happens to KU a lot as well, but often KU has more talent so it’s a far worse look.

Bob P had some strange moments yesterday, made a few erratic passes and could not contain his man on D and ended up fouling stopping the clock.

@AsadZ

Think he needs some more PT to work things out. His speed is needed, but it also means he has to mentally have it together to play well at that pace. I know Self thinks highly of him and Self smiled big when he drove baseline to baseline in the second half for the easy layup.

Bobby is sorely needed on this team to backup Dajuan. Joseph is a 2, definitely not a PG.

I expect him to get some decent PT before league play starts. Gotta have him!

@drgnslayr He is playing about 17 minutes a game which feels about right. Not a lot of minutes without Juan but so far the staff has found some minutes with both of them in there at the same time.

Free Zuby!

@BShark

Yep.... I can't stress how vital Bobby is to this team. Dajuan is our most important piece to this team. He is the composer of the orchestra. But Dajuan is going to show wear if we don't get him some rest. And it is scary to think he could have an injury.

Plus... if we get Bobby really executing his potential, we have a lethal combo of him with Dajuan. Bobby can turn the corner on anyone in college basketball.

Let's get it

Hope we can run on them...

Come on kevin

terrible shot, jalen

I hate playing Wisconsin. You need to shoot a good FG percentage.

1 for 12

@Jethro said in 11 AM Start, Wed NC STATE:

1 for 12

2 for 17 now

GRADEY

ANOTHER

Nice...