Start of the 18 game war! Let's hold serve before a tough 2 game road stretch. Hopefully they came back from the holiday break ready

Should be an interesting match up. They have some shot blockers, so Jalen should get at least 1 shot blocked...lol. We're favored by 10- I'm thinking we cover.

@Jethro said in KU/Oklahoma St Game Thread:

Should be an interesting match up. They have some shot blockers, so Jalen should get at least 1 shot blocked...lol. We're favored by 10- I'm thinking we cover.

Kenpom has them as a top 20 defense.. Boynton seems to get them to play up in this building. I'm hoping their lack of offensive firepower is a big difference for us. We should win and cover but they will have to shoot better then last time to make that happen

Just looked at Kansas's schedule and the end of Jan is going to be brutal with road games at BU, UK, ISU. Kentucky is not good this year, but we all know they will get up for their match vs KU so i'm expecting another L but could easily see 2 road losses in that stretch.

I wonder how much Bryce would be contributing if he had stayed. Bryce is averaging 11.5 pts. I don't think he'd be in our top 7, so not many minutes with us.

Trepidation. KU often seems to have trouble with OSU. They stayed with UConn earlier, losing by 10. Away game.

Great day for sports. Trying to watch like 4 different things right now.

Let's go Jayhawks

My disdain for Alabama and the SEC supersedes my dislike for KState so I'm hoping KState can win.

Texans really need to expand their sports interests. Ranked TCU playing on a holiday weekend afternoon and they can't find 6800 people interested in attending a really good home game? Must be sad to be a fan of just about every other team in America, because most teams have many empty seats these days.

How can there be 4 minutes left in the UK game when its a blowout

@KirkIsMyHinrich Not sure I've ever watched both playoff semifinal games but I think I will today. I've been doing a lot of channel switching for the last half hour.

Alright Alright Alright
LFG

RockChalk ❤💙

We have Clark Kellogg

What is our big 12 opener win streak?

@RockChalkinTexas

Four to six.

I saw future KStater Dai Dai Ames play the other night in a tournament. He scored 66 in a previous round. He's really good. Watched Jacob Pullen's younger brother in the 3rd place game for famed Proviso East as well. He's coached by Donny Boyce and Sherrell Ford who were Proviso East teammates. Boyce played at Colorado. Ford played at UIC and they also weren't the best known Proviso East Pirate, as Michael Finley made up a trio that were all drafted, two were their colleges all time leading scorer and Ford was only 13 points off from the all time best.

@RockChalkinTexas said in KU/Oklahoma St Game Thread:

What is our big 12 opener win streak?

It's up there as far as home openers go

whew...thank heavens I was wrong...there are my Jayhawks!

35-10 Bammer... that will hush up some of the obnoxious fans...

A complete solid game from our men. Improved lobs and rebounding.

@RockChalkinTexas said in KU/Oklahoma St Game Thread:

What is our big 12 opener win streak?

I read where it's 37 or 36

Wyd kev

Come on jalen

No F bombs yet!

Wide open baseline J

Gradey active on D

Gradey struggling to execute on his defensive activity :)

Sluggish

Brutal start

Jesus Kevin 3 turnovers already. get your crap together

2022 can't end soon enough...!!

Jalen has missed 2 shots he should be making

We need some BIG mojo off the bench today

Who gives us the spark from the bench today?

Zuby?

@RockChalkinTexas jinx

There you go, Zuby

Bullcrap make

Wow zuby that was nice

Thompson no career day 4 u

Theres that weird little side spin shot by bryce thompson we know and dont love

Dick being active on defense. Love to see it

Trying to match their D.

Zuby defends the sideline and gives up a bunny

Oh NO

Dick got fouled

Gradey got injured potentially because he turned to argue with the ref

Not sure what it takes to get a foul here

Trying to break out but too hurried maybe.

KJ got called for a moving screen but Oklahoma St has been setting moving screens all day

Just not in sync

@RockChalkinTexas

Missed shots and turnovers are the culprit

kinda sluggish
- -OSU with 3 -- - 3pt makes already

YesJoe

Why foul?

Joe + Dajuan = sadness

Pretty pathetic effort out there right now

You cant handle the KJ hipcheck

Course they scored on a missed call only a blind person misses

Finally

Yesefu admires his 3 and gives up the chance for an offensive RB

Joe isn't the answer

We're not driving ENOUGH

Dick is struggling

@approxinfinity said in KU/Oklahoma St Game Thread:

Dick is struggling

He has a ways to go.

Awful foul call awful

@approxinfinity turnovers are uncharacteristic

UCONN goes down, we could move up, of course, we have to start playing like we deserve to move up.

Zach can show us something here that sets him apart, would love to see it

Foul calls have been meh but we need to play a lot tougher. This is going to be every game in the B12

Their D is good. We have made a few shots in rhythm but they are dictating on both ends. Another half in the 20's. Sigh.

9 pts from the bench so thats nice

Face off!!!

Wide....Open

BANCO !

Wasn't paying attention, is there a reason DeJuan is out?

God Thompsons shot is awful. Get a Hand in his face

C'mon crowd

Bobby and Kevin should sit the rest of this game. Good grief

So he's playing KJ with 2 fouls and he's produced nothing inside

We have to get Juan healthy. Damn.

@wissox said in KU/Oklahoma St Game Thread:

Wasn't paying attention, is there a reason DeJuan is out?

He is hurt, idk how reported this has been.

Oklahoma St isn't a great 3pt shooting team but they are making them today. Need to guard the 3pt line

@KirkIsMyHinrich said in KU/Oklahoma St Game Thread:

Oklahoma St isn't a great 3pt shooting team but they are making them today. Need to guard the 3pt line

Some guarded but most of them wide open shots.

@KirkIsMyHinrich said in KU/Oklahoma St Game Thread:

Oklahoma St isn't a great 3pt shooting team but they are making them today. Need to guard the 3pt line

Seriously. Get a hand in their face, the percentages will go way down.

Stupidest turnovers I've seen all year.

The one man unforced turnover machine: Kevin McCullar.

Jeez. Take him out already.

Our pg play today sucks so bad

SMDH

Jayhawks about to be humbled. Good for the future of the team.

I don't get nervous until the last minute. I do recall a KU game recently in which a 14 point deficit was nothing!

Alright guess we arent back from break yet

Everyone seems to looking ahead to going down to Mass St. later tonight.

Holy crap, Bill going deep bench

MJ didn't even touch him

FlummOXed

Missed him

Wellp

Cam isn't backing down

Gonna give them 20 throws

Hopefully the starters get their heads forcefully extracted from their asses at halftime, because these weirdo lineups arent doing it, hopefully we can execute our game and not theirs

Is Udeh hurt or just not playing?

Ugliest half of the year. Time to take a comeback lesson from the football team.

Just a comedy of errors today.
Oklahoma State has forced errors for sure, but we're just not playing well.
Example: Cam Martin as covering the big dude underneath, and let him score. FOUL THE CRAP out of him! He can't shoot FTs! Your fouls are not important in the big picture.

9 made 3s from them in the first half. Sure

32% team

@KirkIsMyHinrich said in KU/Oklahoma St Game Thread:

Is Udeh hurt or just not playing?

They said Ernest- - -just isn't getting it. - - ya think ? -- if he is getting passed over by Cam Martin then there is something wrong for sure

Giving up 45 means we will need 50 points in the second half to have a chance. OSU with 18 treys launched wow.

They are 9/18 from 3 in the first half.

They average 6.9 makes per game at 32.5%.

Some of them have been wide open looks but they've also been hitting some contested hero ball shots.

@BeddieKU23 said in KU/Oklahoma St Game Thread:

9 made 3s from them in the first half. Sure

32% team

Of course a team I think that's shooting 29 % for the year from three- -gonna come out and make every three they throw up. - -Pathetic effort by KU, 11 turnovers , sloppy , sloppy , sloppy. - -Some really Bizarre lineup combinations on the floor for KU

The Big12 football bowlers are weak.

OSU already over their average made threes for an entire game. 18 attempts to 6. No wonder why KU is losing.

@BShark said in KU/Oklahoma St Game Thread:

OSU already over their average made threes for an entire game. 18 attempts to 6. No wonder why KU is losing.

And we've already hit our season average on turnovers while also not getting to the line. Surprised it's not more actually

I hope to hell we come out and dictate the game instead of reacting

We are just following them around.

Looking good

Good D

3 on Bryce 🙌

Bryce you're the man💪

When in doubt, flail the arms. Might get a call !

Kevin has flat out been shit

Who is that a foul on? LIke nobody?

Garbage fouls

Don’t see Harris get blown by like that.

Bullshit

Need some takeaways and turn on offense

Wilson gets fouled every time he is near the basket but they've only called it a couple of times.

We're up 9-7 fouls and they've been chucking all day. Sure

10 - -- 3's by this dam OSU team

Another pitty-pat call

Wow this ref crew is awful

JUAN !

Here we go

Gradey has earned 6 points with hustle rebounds

D Juan from distance

And two-thirds of the deficit magically disappears.

Huge shot by Juan but even better effort by gradey

Nice back spin

Clutch Dajuan!

Weird team today. Love Gradey's play.

Well - - -wee in a lot better spot then we were at half.

That was really a nice effort by Gradey to keep that possession alive too

The run began when I put in my long dangling KU earrings!👍

4!

@Crimsonorblue22 2!

4 fouls

Gradey with 9 boards

@RockChalkinTexas

Thank you so much!

Amazing what happens when you challenge all shots

@Crimsonorblue22 down by 2!

Hack hack block

Mercy the energy just like night and day

ISU up 10 on Baylor :anguished_face:

Wow the crowd is bananas

Love the game from Dick. Oklahoma St isn't giving him anything clean on offense, but he has 9 rebounds, 3 assists, and a steal and has been playing hard defensively

Kevin finally got yelled at enough that he woke up

@KirkIsMyHinrich said in KU/Oklahoma St Game Thread:

Gradey with 9 boards

Been doing much , much better on the boards lately

Frank

@BeddieKU23 said in KU/Oklahoma St Game Thread:

Kevin finally got yelled at enough that he woke up

ya , he finally scored a point

@RockChalkinTexas franks there?

Oh

No they showed all the 20 ppg average

Jalen chill. Play under control

Let's see if we extended ourselves too much.

@KirkIsMyHinrich chill enough?

@RockChalkinTexas said in KU/Oklahoma St Game Thread:

@KirkIsMyHinrich chill enough?

When it goes in

J-WILL ! AAALLL THE WAY BACK !!!

Lolol

Well it had to be a shot, clock was expiring

Ever heard of a KU team coming back from a 15 point halftime deficit? My t-shirt I'm wearing is a clue.

BANG!

Wins here are slim, pickens

Hustle is not a problem with Joe

Fast pace had gotten to them

OSU has scored 5 points in 11 minutes

We seem a half second from success or disaster.

Disaster call

KJ❤💙

Wow

Nice board KJ, FT will be a little tougher...

Kevin!!!!

!https://media.snopes.com/2020/12/catherine_ohara_home_alone2.jp ↗\g" target="_blank" rel="noopener">alt text ↗

I love how Adams has fiund a way to impact this second half. His o boards and ability to guard 1 through 5 have been great

Job not done yet. Keep up the good D.

Crazy game! That last make for OSU was pretty tough. Damn.

Come all the way back, act like you've made it, then start doing dumb things again. Happens a lot in basketball.

Damn good looks ,unlocky stretch

@BShark said in KU/Oklahoma St Game Thread:

Crazy game! That last make for OSU was pretty tough. Damn.

Luck pure luck

Jalen had another very makeable shot that just isn't going down

What a day in the Big 12. - -Iowa State ahead of Baylor by 9- -- -Oklahoma ahead of Texas

Oklahoma St has 10 points this half.

11/24 from 3.

Whoever gets OSU next gets the regression to the mean 2-19 game

YES

4 on Gradey

Zone.

Rebounding killing us once again

Crap drive

Looked like a travel?

Wow kj!!!

Huge dunk by KJ

Wow what another crap call.

70 points probably wins this one.

Baylor gonna lose at ISU it appears

This game right here - - -just shows you what a gind this league is gonna be to get the W. - No days off

3 starters with 4 fouls. Not good

We need to wave the 🌾🌾 and get Bryce his 5th

Self needs to use zuby and rice for a minute Here but he wont

Kansas ML is the last leg of a 6 team parlay... LETS GO JAYHAWKS

Gradey in for the dagger

Make these

KJ

YIKES

We got this!

Jeez

Bad double clutch.

@Zabudda For sure, just rise and fire.

Bryce of course lmaooo

🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

We knew that

Awful d there awful

Bryce relishing this moment

Of course. Also I guess we aren't calling moving screens anymore

Brick city kev

OMG

Kev!!

ONE MORE STOP

He made up foe it

Ballsey by Kevin!

We get last shot 👍

Announcer just said "Oklahoma City" has made....

!alt text ↗

Need these bad

1-1 need to make it

Caught a break there.

ICE WATER

Gonna come down to a three I bet

kj!!!!

KJ FOR PRESIDENT

What a game

Nice to see Bryce bombing away. Takes a Jayhawk to beat a Jayhawk I guess.

@RockChalkinTexas said in KU/Oklahoma St Game Thread:

What a game

We needed it for sure

Wowwww

Glad they didnt call foul on Kevin on thompsons 3

Sucks they get a TO

What?

Wasn't that off OSU though?

BALLGAME !!!!

We good

Wow.

WINNER WINNER CHICKEN DINNER

Booooom Shaka laka

Wow freaking wow. Thank you Doctor Allen.

$1500 payday!!!!

Kev gets away with one! Hate to see refs swallow a whistle even when it helps us.

I was WRONG. It's now 32 win streak!!!!!!

The Kevin & KJ Show

We got a gift. - - THAT was a sure foul by Kevin

Coach's 300th win

@Crimsonorblue22 In The Phog

@wissox said in KU/Oklahoma St Game Thread:

Kev gets away with one! Hate to see refs swallow a whistle even when it helps us.

I have to agree with you - - That was a foul

Kevin and KJ. Winners win.

I am hoarse!!!!

@jayballer67 said in KU/Oklahoma St Game Thread:

@wissox said in KU/Oklahoma St Game Thread:

Kev gets away with one! Hate to see refs swallow a whistle even when it helps us.

I have to agree with you - - That was a foul

Another case of the calls evening out. We got one when we needed it.

At the half we had 9 or 10 TO's, i forget which, but we only had 12 at the end of the game and that's really a key to this comeback.

@nwhawkfan

That is the fact Jack!

KJ is 6'6'' and starting at the 5 for KU and playing well. Anything is possible.

@wissox said in KU/Oklahoma St Game Thread:

At the half we had 9 or 10 TO's, i forget which, but we only had 12 at the end of the game and that's really a key to this comeback.

11 actually, which means only 1 in the 2nd half

@nwhawkfan said in KU/Oklahoma St Game Thread:

@jayballer67 said in KU/Oklahoma St Game Thread:

@wissox said in KU/Oklahoma St Game Thread:

Kev gets away with one! Hate to see refs swallow a whistle even when it helps us.

I have to agree with you - - That was a foul

Another case of the calls evening out. We got one when we needed it.

Shouldn't come to that. - -Just another time where your gonna hear a lot of others say - - typical Allen Field House home cookin game shouldn't have game down to that, we got lucky, but oh well call it a win and move on

I would argue with you about kevins block not being clean but app still sucks, couldnt rewind to check

Ok watching now

Great way to wrap up the year. Would've hated to pop the cork tonight with a L in the back of my mind.

Next!

@BShark said in KU/Oklahoma St Game Thread:

KJ is 6'6'' and starting at the 5 for KU and playing well. Anything is possible.

He seems to have perfected that little push shot from about 5 feet away from the basket. Seems like it always goes in

@Zabudda said in KU/Oklahoma St Game Thread:

Next!

Two road games next, Tech and WVU. Never easy in this conference.

Block looked clean to me. Sure got an elbow to the face after he blocked it.

Have a safe New Year's Eve and a healthy New Year.
I'll take 14 from KJ every game!
Lots to look forward to in 2023.
Happy 300th Win HCBS🌾❤💙

Speaking of the Conference, TCU just got a Pick Six against Michigan !

@KirkIsMyHinrich said in KU/Oklahoma St Game Thread:

@BShark said in KU/Oklahoma St Game Thread:

KJ is 6'6'' and starting at the 5 for KU and playing well. Anything is possible.

He seems to have perfected that little push shot from about 5 feet away from the basket. Seems like it always goes in

His passing is likely underrated by most as well. One of the best passing bigs we have played under Self.

Only 1 to 2nd half?

Two I think

What an amazing 2022 for KU.

Saw some people comparing KJ to Jamari. We can stop that right now.

Every OSU fan and neutral fan who wanted KU to lose will fixate on that block that could have been called a foul but will ignore things like the most obvious moving screen in the world to free up Bryce Thompson for a 3 that put OSU up 64-62.

And then when we play at Oklahoma St later this season that controversial block will probably be replayed giving the impression that we had some huge officiating advantage because the game was at AFH.

@BShark said in KU/Oklahoma St Game Thread:

@KirkIsMyHinrich said in KU/Oklahoma St Game Thread:

@BShark said in KU/Oklahoma St Game Thread:

KJ is 6'6'' and starting at the 5 for KU and playing well. Anything is possible.

He seems to have perfected that little push shot from about 5 feet away from the basket. Seems like it always goes in

His passing is likely underrated by most as well. One of the best passing bigs we have played under Self.

Agreed. He tried to force a few today on the baseline but usually that pass will be there. Oklahoma St plays good defense.

@BShark yeah it’s not even a comparison at this point. He’s a totally different and better player and will only continue to improve.

@KirkIsMyHinrich Boynton is the best coach we have went up against since...honestly... Ricky?

@KirkIsMyHinrich said in KU/Oklahoma St Game Thread:

Every OSU fan and neutral fan who wanted KU to lose will fixate on that block that could have been called a foul but will ignore things like the most obvious moving screen in the world to free up Bryce Thompson for a 3 that put OSU up 64-62.

And then when we play at Oklahoma St later this season that controversial block will probably be replayed giving the impression that we had some huge officiating advantage because the game was at AFH.

Also, make or miss game blahblahblah but I have a hard time seeing Bryce going 7-10 from three again this year. UGLY shot but he was playing out of his mind today.

@BShark said in KU/Oklahoma St Game Thread:

@KirkIsMyHinrich Boynton is the best coach we have went up against since...honestly... Ricky?

No bad coaches in the B12 now that Weber is gone. I was trying to rank them all the other day and was having trouble with it.

@KirkIsMyHinrich said in KU/Oklahoma St Game Thread:

Every OSU fan and neutral fan who wanted KU to lose will fixate on that block that could have been called a foul but will ignore things like the most obvious moving screen in the world to free up Bryce Thompson for a 3 that put OSU up 64-62.

And then when we play at Oklahoma St later this season that controversial block will probably be replayed giving the impression that we had some huge officiating advantage because the game was at AFH.

Kyle Boone of CBS Sports is already having fits over the call. Gimme a break!

@BShark said in KU/Oklahoma St Game Thread:

@KirkIsMyHinrich said in KU/Oklahoma St Game Thread:

Every OSU fan and neutral fan who wanted KU to lose will fixate on that block that could have been called a foul but will ignore things like the most obvious moving screen in the world to free up Bryce Thompson for a 3 that put OSU up 64-62.

And then when we play at Oklahoma St later this season that controversial block will probably be replayed giving the impression that we had some huge officiating advantage because the game was at AFH.

Also, make or miss game blahblahblah but I have a hard time seeing Bryce going 7-10 from three again this year. UGLY shot but he was playing out of his mind today.

I can't either BShark. - -I bet he won't do that again this year. - -Seems like every year we have some opposing guy just play out his a - - way over his head - - UGLY UGLY SHOT

We had more fouls. They shot more free throws and more 3's. Most people who aren't Kansas fans just want to see us lose.

TCU up 14 -- - 0 over Michigan

Genuinely shocking.

KJ Adams had 14 points. He is our 5 guy.

@BShark said in KU/Oklahoma St Game Thread:

Genuinely shocking.

A lot of game left but TCU has a good defense, a good QB, and good skill position players. They are definitely legit.

Bryce has been playing pretty good the last 3-4 games. Not this good, but surprised me when I saw that. Thinks he's a badass shoving guards off of him!

@approxinfinity said in KU/Oklahoma St Game Thread:

I would argue with you about kevins block not being clean but app still sucks, couldnt rewind to check

It was a foul. The block itself was clean, but the body contact should've been called. These refs were just really inconsistent with what was or wasn't a foul throughout the game and that was really frustrating to me.

@BShark said in KU/Oklahoma St Game Thread:

KJ is 6'6'' and starting at the 5 for KU and playing well. Anything is possible.

Billy Eugene's lab

Boynton didn't complain about calls, he's a classy guy. I like him. Said he wouldn't want to ref. Probably my next favorite coach in big 12

@Crimsonorblue22 hmm! Impressive

I get really sick of hearing about Marcus smarts flip on our court!

@Crimsonorblue22

Skkehdhdklskdhddpdhgqksosg that dude😂

@BeddieKU23 I'd rather talk about his FLOPS!

The Jayhawks’ final record in 2022: 36-5 with one national championship.

I fear we may have a season where our guys are too complacent going into games. It's hard to followup a National Championship year as it is hard to stay motivated while we take the best shot from everyone.

Our first half energy level was horrible. Our second half energy was better, but still was not jacked up... just better. The incremental difference made the game score change dramatically because when we have high energy we are capable of beating anyone, including blowing out anyone. But when we come out with subpar energy we could lose to just about anyone.

I hope this isn't what we should expect moving forward, mostly because this team has plenty of talent and capability to defend and move the ball like very few teams we have ever had.

Not sure where our defense went (especially in the first half) but we sure are missing those steals that end in run outs!

I suspect Self will be on them heavy for this performance... as he should be.

But... at least we got the win and these kinds of wins are crucial as we get the "W" while also making it a learning experience.

Kudos to OSU and Thompson for maintain good composure and bringing game!

KJ has such a soft touch in mid-range. He definitely is establishing himself as an offensive weapon. He is playing smart to go right up with shots in the paint instead of coming down and setting up for shots (bound to get blocked by taller players).

Gradey's two offensive boards were crucial in this victory and lead to made treys... but in many ways he is being exposed as a freshman now until he figures out how to get the right shot off for his treys. Now is when he could really use the help of some NBA shooters. Like how he mentioned Steph Curry... he would be a great one to learn from... even watching his tape should be helpful.

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in KU/Oklahoma St Game Thread:

@approxinfinity said in KU/Oklahoma St Game Thread:

I would argue with you about kevins block not being clean but app still sucks, couldnt rewind to check

It was a foul. The block itself was clean, but the body contact should've been called. These refs were just really inconsistent with what was or wasn't a foul throughout the game and that was really frustrating to me.

Agree it was a foul. That said, almost no team is getting that call on the road in that spot.

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in KU/Oklahoma St Game Thread:

@approxinfinity said in KU/Oklahoma St Game Thread:

I would argue with you about kevins block not being clean but app still sucks, couldnt rewind to check

It was a foul. The block itself was clean, but the body contact should’ve been called. These refs were just really inconsistent with what was or wasn’t a foul throughout the game and that was really frustrating to me.

I concur. Seems like one or two were new to B12 games. Doug Sirmons, Keith Kimble, Bret Smith? Anyone know? I'm sure new refs in an atmosphere like AFH must be pretty intimidating!

@drgnslayr said in KU/Oklahoma St Game Thread:

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in KU/Oklahoma St Game Thread:

<a href="/user/approxinfinity" class="mention">@approxinfinity</a> said in KU/Oklahoma St Game Thread:

I would argue with you about kevins block not being clean but app still sucks, couldnt rewind to check

It was a foul. The block itself was clean, but the body contact should’ve been called. These refs were just really inconsistent with what was or wasn’t a foul throughout the game and that was really frustrating to me.

I concur. Seems like one or two were new to B12 games. Doug Sirmons, Keith Kimble, Bret Smith? Anyone know? I'm sure new refs in an atmosphere like AFH must be pretty intimidating!

Doug Sirmons isn't. I've disliked him for a while.

@KirkIsMyHinrich wasn't it his call too?

@Crimsonorblue22 said in KU/Oklahoma St Game Thread:

@KirkIsMyHinrich wasn't it his call too?

Unsure

@jayballer67 said in KU/Oklahoma St Game Thread:

@KirkIsMyHinrich said in KU/Oklahoma St Game Thread:

Is Udeh hurt or just not playing?

They said Ernest- - -just isn't getting it. - - ya think ? -- if he is getting passed over by Cam Martin then there is something wrong for sure

I must be getting my KU bigs confused...didn't Udeh start the season as our first big?

@rockchalkjayhawk said in KU/Oklahoma St Game Thread:

@jayballer67 said in KU/Oklahoma St Game Thread:

@KirkIsMyHinrich said in KU/Oklahoma St Game Thread:

Is Udeh hurt or just not playing?

They said Ernest- - -just isn't getting it. - - ya think ? -- if he is getting passed over by Cam Martin then there is something wrong for sure

I must be getting my KU bigs confused...didn't Udeh start the season as our first big?

Yes sir. He's just not ready yet.

@BeddieKU23 said in KU/Oklahoma St Game Thread:

@rockchalkjayhawk said in KU/Oklahoma St Game Thread:

@jayballer67 said in KU/Oklahoma St Game Thread:

@KirkIsMyHinrich said in KU/Oklahoma St Game Thread:

Is Udeh hurt or just not playing?

They said Ernest- - -just isn't getting it. - - ya think ? -- if he is getting passed over by Cam Martin then there is something wrong for sure

I must be getting my KU bigs confused...didn't Udeh start the season as our first big?

Yes sir. He's just not ready yet.

Great kid, has a lot to work on.

Zuby definitely looks more ready to contribute currently.

@rockchalkjayhawk said in KU/Oklahoma St Game Thread:

@jayballer67 said in KU/Oklahoma St Game Thread:

@KirkIsMyHinrich said in KU/Oklahoma St Game Thread:

Is Udeh hurt or just not playing?

They said Ernest- - -just isn't getting it. - - ya think ? -- if he is getting passed over by Cam Martin then there is something wrong for sure

I must be getting my KU bigs confused...didn't Udeh start the season as our first big?

No actually it's been KJ from day one - - BUT Udeh had been the 1st big off the bench , can't find the floor now. - -he made it on for like the last 2 seconds today to try and protect the rim is what Coach Self said afterwards

@BShark said in KU/Oklahoma St Game Thread:

Saw some people comparing KJ to Jamari. We can stop that right now.

Honestly, and I may be off here, but to me a great comparison for KJ is Mark Vital.

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@BShark said in KU/Oklahoma St Game Thread:

@KirkIsMyHinrich Boynton is the best coach we have went up against since...honestly... Ricky?

No bad coaches in the B12 now that Weber is gone. I was trying to rank them all the other day and was having trouble with it.

Let me help - #1 Bill Self …then the rest.

@drgnslayr

Even Ochai had some trouble adjusting to how teams guarded him and he was a senior. Gradey is definitely being schemed against, almost every time he caught the ball a defender had a hand in his face so it was a well executed plan. Gradey has an elite shot but he has a ways to go off the bounce from a speed/shiftyness ability. Teams have seen that on film and found some success slowing him down. It's pretty telling what opposing coaches think of Gradey when they are trying to shut down your 2nd leading scorer, who's a freshman. I thought Gradey could have done more of what he usually does when he gets guarded that way is to utilize the back cut for layups etc. Didn't see a lot of that from anyone tbh but especially Gradey who's skilled at this. It makes a defensive player guarding him adjust. Freshman moments. I was very happy with his effort plays yesterday which helped the team win.

Great to see KJ's development and his confidence.

Bryce T looks like a totally different player now, good for him.

@AsadZ said in KU/Oklahoma St Game Thread:

Bryce T looks like a totally different player now, good for him.

Not trying to sound bitter but that game was an anomaly for him statistically compared to the year so far.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/bryce-thompson-1.html ↗

He's been a net drain offensively. Volume guy but not particularly good.

That's good to know

Yesterday reminded me of last year. This was Miami/UNC all over again. We held them to 28% shooting in the 2nd half. It's like we put a big clamp on other team's offenses the 2nd half. The CLAMP lives!

@Jethro my only concern is that this team seems to know they can flip a switch and make things happen. That can be a dangerous mindset. I’d rather the switch be stuck in the on position.

@benshawks08 said in KU/Oklahoma St Game Thread:

@Jethro my only concern is that this team seems to know they can flip a switch and make things happen. That can be a dangerous mindset. I’d rather the switch be stuck in the on position.

Playin' with fire...it works until it doesn't.

BTW, KJ has scored over 10 points in 6 straight.

Kjraymond Green.

Anybody know kj's ft stats from say last 6 games? He's really improved

@Crimsonorblue22 said in KU/Oklahoma St Game Thread:

Anybody know kj's ft stats from say last 6 games? He's really improved

11/14 so just under 79%

I saw Kevin!(s) block from the front, doesn't look like he comes down on Bryce. Bryce falls forward on his own so Kevin has room to come down without landing on him. I know I know. But it doesn't look like he follows thru on his body🤩 trust me.😎✋🏼Honest

@BeddieKU23 thx stats man! He's really improved, all around!

@BeddieKU23 said in KU/Oklahoma St Game Thread:

@drgnslayr

Even Ochai had some trouble adjusting to how teams guarded him and he was a senior. Gradey is definitely being schemed against, almost every time he caught the ball a defender had a hand in his face so it was a well executed plan. Gradey has an elite shot but he has a ways to go off the bounce from a speed/shiftyness ability. Teams have seen that on film and found some success slowing him down. It's pretty telling what opposing coaches think of Gradey when they are trying to shut down your 2nd leading scorer, who's a freshman. I thought Gradey could have done more of what he usually does when he gets guarded that way is to utilize the back cut for layups etc. Didn't see a lot of that from anyone tbh but especially Gradey who's skilled at this. It makes a defensive player guarding him adjust. Freshman moments. I was very happy with his effort plays yesterday which helped the team win.

It’s very easy to expect more out of Gradey every game after seeing that pure shot. But to shoot that shot he’s gotta get open. That didn’t happen at all yesterday.

So far he doesn’t seem to have as good conditioning as other players. Wonder why that is, or if I’m imagining it.

He forced lots of shots yesterday. That’s fine, we need him to shoot, but the coaching staff needs to find a way to get him open. It sure doesn’t seem like he run off screens like Och used to do to get open. Or maybe our screens aren’t as good?

@BShark said in KU/Oklahoma St Game Thread:

@AsadZ said in KU/Oklahoma St Game Thread:

Bryce T looks like a totally different player now, good for him.

Not trying to sound bitter but that game was an anomaly for him statistically compared to the year so far.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/bryce-thompson-1.html ↗

He's been a net drain offensively. Volume guy but not particularly good.

Seems we ALWAYS have one of those guys every year

@rockchalkjayhawk

He is playing a lot of minutes and we may forget he's only played 13 games here. I do see him getting tired at times and I think that's just part of his development. He is by no means a finished product physically. Same with adjusting to getting open etc, games like this help him learn and adjust going forward. Film can point out and coaching can continue to work on it. This team did not move the ball great until the 2nd half and Gradey is sort of dependent on getting setup to score at times and the way he was guarded was disadvantageous.

@Crimsonorblue22 said in KU/Oklahoma St Game Thread:

@BeddieKU23 thx stats man! He's really improved, all around!

He sure has. Really love his progression, he's showing why he was good in HS even though he was undersized. Playing to his athletic ability and making the opportunities he gets count.

@BeddieKU23 said in KU/Oklahoma St Game Thread:

@rockchalkjayhawk

He is playing a lot of minutes and we may forget he's only played 13 games here. I do see him getting tired at times and I think that's just part of his development. He is by no means a finished product physically. Same with adjusting to getting open etc, games like this help him learn and adjust going forward. Film can point out and coaching can continue to work on it. This team did not move the ball great until the 2nd half and Gradey is sort of dependent on getting setup to score at times and the way he was guarded was disadvantageous.

Oklahoma State had an amazing first half on both sides of the ball. First i've seen em play this year, but guessing they played out of their gourds.

Somehow they were able to shut down our 3 pt line, AND any inside penetration.

Credit their effort and strategy. Both Wilson and Gradey affected.

@rockchalkjayhawk said in KU/Oklahoma St Game Thread:

@BeddieKU23 said in KU/Oklahoma St Game Thread:

@rockchalkjayhawk

He is playing a lot of minutes and we may forget he's only played 13 games here. I do see him getting tired at times and I think that's just part of his development. He is by no means a finished product physically. Same with adjusting to getting open etc, games like this help him learn and adjust going forward. Film can point out and coaching can continue to work on it. This team did not move the ball great until the 2nd half and Gradey is sort of dependent on getting setup to score at times and the way he was guarded was disadvantageous.

Oklahoma State had an amazing first half on both sides of the ball. First i've seen em play this year, but guessing they played out of their gourds.

Somehow they were able to shut down our 3 pt line, AND any inside penetration.

Credit their effort and strategy. Both Wilson and Gradey affected.

Oh definitely they shot the 3 in the first half well above average and then thankfully they came back down to earth in the 2nd. Bryce Thompson made 7 3's, against his old team so definitely an one-off type of game there. Him and Wright made several highly contested shots that were lucky looking. We allowed them to get confident in that first half and that played a part in their ability to make shots.

I respect Boynton, he really knows how to get his team to play well in Allen Fieldhouse. Always sound defensively and coaches them up well.

@BeddieKU23

Yes...

There are two big reasons why teams focus on Gradey.

First... if he's left open he will quickly score treys in bunches.

Second... if he is guarded closely... he won't!

What is Gradey's biggest skill? It's getting shots up quickly with speed and perfect form. That is great... but now he needs to put some time in on how to score when guarded. Develop a few moves off the dribble that give him scoring space but also where he is almost as reliable when shooting those shots verses being wide open. He'll get there. He will get there because he has uncanny ability to learn the physical parts of basketball. He doesn't have that much of a background as a sharp shooter like he is now... he used to be a slasher more than a smooth jump shooter.

Then think about other parts of the game... like rebounding... muscling up on defense. seeing more floor (like Juan does). Gosh... imagine if he stayed at KU for 4 years? We might win a couple more Natties if he did!

I feel pretty sure he is magnetized on Steph Curry's game... who isn't? But I'd like to see him study Luka Doncic. A guy who doesn't need perfect athleticism to dominate the league. He's like the next Larry Bird. He needs about a foot of vertical leap to create scoring space!

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@Jethro Dog fight every game for the next three months.

@Crimsonorblue22 said in KU/Oklahoma St Game Thread:

Boynton didn’t complain about calls, he’s a classy guy. I like him. Said he wouldn’t want to ref. Probably my next favorite coach in big 12

My exact thoughts! We are lucky to have him in the Big 12... especially at OSU, a school that doesn't have a great basketball environment. I remember a few years ago when the coach was begging students to come to games. OSU is extremely lucky to have a coach of his quality!

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I would put money on Kansas NOT losing 7+ games in conference. Won’t go undefeated, but those projections are insulting! Lol

@dylans

We can use all available tools to create a chip for this team. It is so hard to come back from a Nattie and perform well. We definitely have the talent and coaching to go far this year but it is going to take being a very hungry team to maximize potential.