Big loss for WVU Saturday as their starting PG Kedrian Johnson is out with a Concussion. Leads the team in assists, steals and FT's and is averaging 9ppg.
@BeddieKU23 they don't have much! The transfer kid is close to being thrown out. I guess he flipped off marcus smart in the osu game. Was in the stands.
Yeah Stevenson can really shoot though and he's the one guy KU has to pay extra attention to because of his ability to score. He can get 30 when he's hot. Tre Mitchell has looked decent for them, obv I have bad memories of him banking in the 3 that helped Texas beat us last year. Matthews is another solid vet that came back to them in the portal after a stint at Washington. They don't have much else. Toussiant will fill in for Johnson and will have to play heavy minutes. Big loss for a team on the slide.
West Virginia is Top 40 in the nation in fouls per game (I know a real shocker) so naturally I'll expect KU to have double the foul rate of them in Morgantown.
I sure hope the Chiefs have the Raiders beaten by the time KU starts at 5. Crazy week in the NFL. Morgantown is always extra tough for KU.
@Crimsonorblue22 Truth be told, I've flipped off Marcus Smart a lot more than that...
@Crimsonorblue22 said in West Virginia Game Saturday:
@BeddieKU23 they don't have much! The transfer kid is close to being thrown out. I guess he flipped off marcus smart in the osu game. Was in the stands.
Ya it's Stephenson kid - -transferred from Wichita State I think. - - I seen his action he was grabbing his crotch at the bench is what I saw - -not a good look, Huggins said if he ever did anything like that again he was out - would be a Mountaineer
@Crimsonorblue22 said in West Virginia Game Saturday:
@BeddieKU23 they don't have much! The transfer kid is close to being thrown out. I guess he flipped off marcus smart in the osu game. Was in the stands.
There is a reason he hasn't stayed anywhere long.
@BShark said in West Virginia Game Saturday:
@Crimsonorblue22 said in West Virginia Game Saturday:
@BeddieKU23 they don't have much! The transfer kid is close to being thrown out. I guess he flipped off marcus smart in the osu game. Was in the stands.
There is a reason he hasn't stayed anywhere long.
Exactly
Pretty interesting the line is only -1 KU. Not too confident winning in Morgantown so i'm gonna lay off today.
Need to get this one today to keep pace with ISU…
What's the over/under on Stevenson's next technical? First half or 2nd?
We're only favored by 1. I get a feeling we'll beat them by double digits.
Looks like Joe is going to play.
@stoptheflop I think you are good to go. Chiefs are kickin ass
Eww
GRADEY
Dble
Wow
Rebounds going to be critical
We’re hitting some threes!
Wow
so..what do you all think...still worried about our 3 point shooting?
Coming with effort like our #Chiefs ran it down their throats!!
How many 3’s
Dejuan might never miss again.
I recommend we keep shooting 80% from 3. Hash tag # coaching points
@FarmerJayhawk really surprised more coaches don’t teach this.
Throwing pebbles into the ocean right now.
@Crimsonorblue22 4-5
@FarmerJayhawk said in West Virginia Game Saturday:
I recommend we keep shooting 80% from 3. Hash tag # coaching points
Hard to tell if you are talking about the team or Harris.
@RockChalkinTexas Who missed? Bench him!
@jessejayhawk Kevin. And it wasn’t close.
@jessejayhawk Kevin...airball
@benshawks08 yes
I think gradey loves playing at KU
@Crimsonorblue22 he understands the rivalry 🤭
@RockChalkinTexas plural
Best mid range shooting team we’ve ever had imo
Joe is on the bike
I think he’s having the time of his life
This is hilarious
Wow
What team is this
OK, don't bemch him
Juan!
i wish Juan would work on his shot- it's like it's 4 on 5....oh wait!
Wvu fans about to lose it
This team is a juggernaut with a capital J
Some interesting chants from the fighting John Denvers
@FarmerJayhawk Lol, the Fighting Denvers. That's a great name!
Yes
JOE
2nd time JWill ran into a group and got shut down
Good way to test the hammy, Yes!
My sound doesn't work with ESPN+ so I'm just guessing that WVU fans are booing about every 10 seconds.
No fouls on WVU yet. Everything going against KU. 🤔
4 fouls KU; 0 WV
As usual no fouls on WV
@wissox said in West Virginia Game Saturday:
My sound doesn't work with ESPN+ so I'm just guessing that WVU fans are booing about every 10 seconds.
Try to log out of the ESPN app, and log back in...
Awful refs awful
WVU is going inside and KU can’t stop them. Lotsa fouls….
It doesn't even matter that they're not calling fouls on them. We can overcome
14,000 have been pretty quiet. What a bomb we dropped on them...
I had to turn off my secure VPN to get player to load.
Ku gets all the calls, haven’t you heard?
24-6 #Chiefs
These 2 commercials are going to get really old
AS much as I love watching the 3's drop, I'd love to see some drives to the hoop, some alley oops, and some more run outs...
We ought to be up 20
When Huggy was a boy his mom told him if you keep frowning like that your face will freeze like that. He didn't listen to her.
Joe messing up our 3 pt %
Need to take more of an advantage of that triple team on wilson
Zuby
Wilson needs to let the game come to him a bit. Pass out of the defensive pressure
Ugly passing
Kev struggling
KJ
KJ
KJay
A foul on WVU? That's odd
KJ gonna run that dude to the bench.
Bobby and Gradey back in with 2 fouls each
No yes
Ah! Perfect pass! Chiefs
KU 62% shooting; 75% from 3
Put juando back in
Been stuck on 28 a long time
A foul call wow
2 now
KJ is struggling
that arena looks different
Darkest arena in the conference
Blue paint instead of the ugly yellow??
we passed it to stevenson, and he misses a wide open lay up...
🐇🐇🐇🐇
Blown at least 4 fast breaks
McCullar is playing so good....
10 point lead… cheap foul.
Bail out foul
Gotta keep it close.
Kevin mad about last game
Espn+ has now missed 2 ft's. Amateur hour
There was a while that going to WVU seemed terrifying. But it hasn't been that scary lately.
Another missed fast break jesus
Chiefs scored
Glad they got that flop.
I have no sound what's the FT for? Flop?
Wow Gradey!!
GDick
Dick was like, I better get that back!
Gradey the monster
Did Gradey yell "bi**" on the way back from that 3?
All those cheap early fouls are just pint ms now.
Gradey is money
Wilson, frosh move
@benshawks08 said in West Virginia Game Saturday:
All those cheap early fouls are just pint ms now.
Free points
I love me some Reggie Miller, but enough man. Lol
Bullcrap
Flop
There’s a WVU player on the ground every play and we are rarely putting them there.
Takes the new rules to get to west virginia
Douchebag announcers
A while
Have we made a layup?
Missing a lot of layups
Booooooo
Can't make layups
Kj had a dunk and that’s about it
Brain dead last 5 minutes
Way to make those kj
KJ
we're fine...
KJ is 6/8 from the line
Yeah kj just saved a bad end there
What the heck
This ref crew 🤡
Thanks refs!
What clock was musketman watching?
The Mountaineers are looking for every advantage. Shot clock buzzer, musket firing. Geez…
@wissox said in West Virginia Game Saturday:
Thanks refs!
the shotclock didn't reset. we didn't catch a break.
Time for #Chiefs
Well that was all very dumb
Arizona is getting beat with less than 2 minutes to go...
Only 2 shot attempts by the bench-Joe of course. Only 2 bench points.
@stoptheflop zuby had some chances but didn’t seem ready. Bobby hasn’t had much of an impact but was saddled with foul trouble.
@stoptheflop said in West Virginia Game Saturday:
Only 2 shot attempts by the bench-Joe of course. Only 2 bench points.
Joe should have -2 points for that stupid foul
These announcers. Good lord.
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Why was Yesufu getting so much playing time? He’s not playing at the level the others are…
Gradey 3/3, 10 pts. He's just got to shoot more
We found out in the last game that +7 pts is not safe on the road.
@Gorilla72 said in West Virginia Game Saturday:
Why was Yesufu getting so much playing time? He’s not playing at the level the others are…
Foul trouble for the guards:wings. Feels like they all have two.
@wissox said in West Virginia Game Saturday:
@Jethro Did the previous shot hit the rim?
Definitely did.
@Gorilla72 said in West Virginia Game Saturday:
Why was Yesufu getting so much playing time? He’s not playing at the level the others are…
Dick had 2 fouls was a part of that.
I REALLY don’t understand what is going on with Baylor this year.
They should be National Championship hopefuls
@Zabudda said in West Virginia Game Saturday:
We found out in the last game that +7 pts is not safe on the road.
I’d have taken a 7 point lead before the game but feels like we misssed a chance to blow this one open with how well we shot the ball early.
@wissox said in West Virginia Game Saturday:
@Jethro Did the previous shot hit the rim?
It did. The clock didn't re-set.
@Zabudda said in West Virginia Game Saturday:
We found out in the last game that +7 pts is not safe on the road.
Actually it WAS safe. We won.
@benshawks08 said in West Virginia Game Saturday:
@Zabudda said in West Virginia Game Saturday:
We found out in the last game that +7 pts is not safe on the road.
I’d have taken a 7 point lead before the game but feels like we misssed a chance to blow this one open with how well we shot the ball early.
This team is so good at getting up 12 and then giving up a 10-4 run.
Joe Lunardi has KState as a 4 seed. Does that seem strange to anyone else besides me?
@Jethro said in West Virginia Game Saturday:
@Zabudda said in West Virginia Game Saturday:
We found out in the last game that +7 pts is not safe on the road.
Actually it WAS safe. We won.
Depends on your definition of safe I guess.
@Kcmatt7 said in West Virginia Game Saturday:
@benshawks08 said in West Virginia Game Saturday:
@Zabudda said in West Virginia Game Saturday:
We found out in the last game that +7 pts is not safe on the road.
I’d have taken a 7 point lead before the game but feels like we misssed a chance to blow this one open with how well we shot the ball early.
This team is so good at getting up 12 and then giving up a 10-4 run.
To be fair they are also good at getting down 12 and going on a 15-2 run…
I don't get scared until the last minute of the game as my normal policy.
@wissox said in West Virginia Game Saturday:
Joe Lunardi has KState as a 4 seed. Does that seem strange to anyone else besides me?
It's very odd...they are selling out all their home games, too. It's like a good program has kidnapped the K-State team or something.
I'm going to go see Dai Dai Adames (or something like that) play in a few minutes. He's a KState recruit. Jacob Pullen's brother will be playing in a separate game that I'll see as well.
AZ loses 74-61 to Washington St.
Too sped up
Jeez
Must've been some bad moonshine back in that locker room
What the heck was Marcus smart doing yelling at him during the game? Never change
Dude you don’t have to say junior every time
I think that's the first time they've showed Bill Self all game. Huggy must be more photogenic.
KJ keeping it real
Some of these foul calls…
You gotta be kidding me
Refs must be afraid of that dude with the musket
Seemed like the most standard challenge a guy can give on a three.
There is no foul
Really good understanding by the refs know when to call fouls to keep this game from getting away from the home team.
Chiefs be good
58-53 KSUcks
Like clockwork
WVU on a bit of a drought? Here are 6 free throws in a row to get you going again.
Ya'll hold it down for me. Got to run.
Big 3
Foul call coming.
Scoop Harris
Amazed that wasn’t called a charge.
Joe is struggling on both ends. Bad there.
Pass the ball jwill
Airball
KJ
This game is as ugly as I expected. Holding our own thigh!
Though
Kj playing really well this half but has picked up a pair of fouls as well
Improbably, KJ's 12 pts ties for KU's high scorer.
Fing phone. I’m streaming to my mother in laws tv with my laptop
Jalen looked gassed before that timeout
He seems fearless.
Chiefs clinch #1 Seed👋💛♥️
15 fouls on KU; 8 on WV. I think we see the pattern Big 12.
West Virginia 11 below their foul average for a game. Incredible refs
@BeddieKU23 said in 2022 Recruiting Thread:
Some of these makes from WVU I'm just laughing
It caught up with them eventually. Now finish.
@RockChalkinTexas said in West Virginia Game Saturday:
Chiefs clinch #1 Seed👋💛♥️
Bills fans are mad!
@BeddieKU23 said in West Virginia Game Saturday:
West Virginia 11 below their foul average for a game. Incredible refs
I was told Kansas gets all the calls.
My children had 6 sporting events between them, just got home, we looking good?
Bring Gradey in even though he has 3 fouls. He needs to shoot & shoot
@approxinfinity said in West Virginia Game Saturday:
My children had 6 sporting events between them, just got home, we looking good?
It's good and so so. Hopefully they finish strong
@approxinfinity said in West Virginia Game Saturday:
My children had 6 sporting events between them, just got home, we looking good?
Not bad. Refs kinda rough though.
Sit zach
@approxinfinity KJ doing it all
Got ‘em to the bonus before 10 minute mark. Free points whenever the refs need em now.
@RockChalkinTexas love it!
Good wall
Zach!
Bobby look explosive like last game?
Gravy!
@approxinfinity said in West Virginia Game Saturday:
Bobby look explosive like last game?
Not really.
@approxinfinity Fouls limited him first half
Zach
ZACH
Zach first basket of the year
How about a good fourth quarter!
Zachs just 1 better haircut away from figuring it all out.
@approxinfinity said in West Virginia Game Saturday:
Bobby look explosive like last game?
He has been in foul trouble
Touche for Gradey
Yes got too many minutes first half due to Dick fouls.
@approxinfinity said in West Virginia Game Saturday:
Zachs just 1 better haircut away from figuring it all out.
His nickname is..."the man with the bad haircut"
Well, that would have been nice from Bobby and Joe
Tbh i cant remember the last time dick has gone to the line
Still only 3 bench shot attempts; 4 pts.
@stoptheflop said in West Virginia Game Saturday:
Still only 3 bench shot attempts; 4 pts.
we're winning
Gradey always rebounds his missed shot
Gradey and yesafu fouled 3 pt shooters
KJJJJJJJJJ
Bobby looked good there!
BOBBY
There’s Bobby!
I love this group
He can finish.
These announcers…. always trying to measure Dick against other players
Bobby goes straight into the teeth of the defense. he is fearless!
@DanR said in West Virginia Game Saturday:
These announcers…. always trying to measure Dick against other players
Just like middle school boys
Sounds like they're talking with a megaphone into the mic
They are bad…but it’s not Fran!
No MJ so far..
I like the announcers simply they aren't named fran. fran has an annoying voice.
Wait until Bill unleashes Bobby next year. He isn't being asked to score right now mostly and is primarily the back-up 1.
Whats up with Dajuan?
Good time to get him in
@BeddieKU23 said in West Virginia Game Saturday:
No MJ so far..
Wish he would’ve gotten more early season practice. Hard to makeup time now.
@BeddieKU23 he looked sullen in an earlier timeout
@approxinfinity said in West Virginia Game Saturday:
Whats up with Dajuan?
Had some foul trouble. Ankle could still be bugging him. He's a warrior tho.
@approxinfinity said in West Virginia Game Saturday:
Whats up with Dajuan?
Self mentioned they wanted to get him rest in this game due to West Virginia' style
Thuggy Bear ball, good call
@approxinfinity how do you do 6 sporting events? Good at you for doing it!
Helluva play by Bob there.
Bobby P
bobby with the tip...lolol
Has Bill mastered getting us to play loose?
@Kcmatt7 said in West Virginia Game Saturday:
Has Bill mastered getting us to play loose?
I think he has....
Self said in his presser Bobby is very important to this team. He really is a starter level guy playing 6th man. Just makes us very dynamic when you have that
@Kcmatt7 said in West Virginia Game Saturday:
Has Bill mastered getting us to play loose?
Last couple years yes. Special groups of players.
@RockChalkinTexas to be honest i didnt make it to two of them, had to split up w wife for those.
Bball, bball, indoor soccer, bball, indoor soccer, futsal. All different locations!
@BeddieKU23 said in West Virginia Game Saturday:
Self said in his presser Bobby is very important to this team. He really is a starter level guy playing 6th man. Just makes us very dynamic when you have that
Bobby just attacks a defense. He is a VERY good pg
Dooley sighting!
@BeddieKU23 i will take bobby being F4 MOP. Thatll do just fine.
Crazy that ISU and KSU are picking up road wins today. What are the chances Texas gives Tang a call?
He's still behind in games played too and another fearless Hawk.
@approxinfinity is that littlest one playing sports yet?
Big fan of this kid. I can't wait for his senior year
The lay ups are still bad
WVU fans all sitting with their arms folded. Is that “rally” thing? 😁
can you believe we were favored by 1?
@Jethro said in West Virginia Game Saturday:
can you believe we were favored by 1?
No, it was a bad line..
@Gorilla72 those crossed arms are wheat after its been threshed.
We've out rebounded them 40-28!!
come on, guys. it's not over yet..
layup drills next practice...
Nice trip LOL
Who do these announcers remind me of
Double Double for JWill
2 of the 3 stooges, Larry and mo
J will has a c+ game and gets a double double. It's crazy how good he is
@BeddieKU23 said in West Virginia Game Saturday:
@Jethro said in West Virginia Game Saturday:
can you believe we were favored by 1?
No, it was a bad line..
Do not think they adjusted in time for the PG being out but either way it was bad.
Baylor within 1 now
@BeddieKU23 said in West Virginia Game Saturday:
Great point. It was definitely a big deal for WVU that he was out
I thought you posted that this morning he was out...am i dreaming?
Since Kentucky lost today, KU is going to increase its lead in all time wins to 8; +4 so far this year. RC
KU/KSU/ISU top 3 in the league???!
I am liking the fact that our toughest road games are at the start of conference play.
Is Gradey the closest guarded guy in the nation?
Let Houston be #1 for now. We can wait
We're probably going to be the #1 team in the country in the next poll. This has been a pretty good rebuilding year!
Gurley and Hanni sighting
Guy reminds me of Willard Scott the weatherman shouting out to the centaurions
Not that it matters but that was a clean strip by Bobby.
Watching ksu baylor. Ksu winning
Juan getting robbed on assists because no one can make Lay ups
24 fouls called on KU. 14 on WV
Dagger
Drew getting schooled by his own playbook
The last few minutes aside, it's nice to get a comfortable road win, especially in Morgantown.
Now for a week of home cookin'.
@stoptheflop said in West Virginia Game Saturday:
24 fouls called on KU. 14 on WV
Somehow the people who hate us still think the refs rig it in our favor. (Same with Chiefs)
No T on that rim hang?
Solid win
Just a convincing win. Best we've looked since the xmas break.
Chiefs and Jayhawks both win. Doesn't get much better than that
Rock Chalk Jayhawk 🌾🌾🌾🌾
GO #CHIEFS 💛♥️
Have a good evening. ❤💙
@Crimsonorblue22 said in West Virginia Game Saturday:
Watching ksu baylor. Ksu winning
Might as well watch it. I don’t really care who wins Tbh
Good win boys
Not a full house
I guess I’m rooting for Baylor
@jessejayhawk said in West Virginia Game Saturday:
Chiefs and Jayhawks both win. Doesn't get much better than that
Well, maybe a Seahawks and a Lions win tomorrow...
OT
Baylor goin to OT
KSU up by 4 with 38 seconds left and some igit fouls Baylor within 2 seconds Baylor makes both and fouls KSU who hit one out of two Baylor hits a three and tied with 13 seconds left. Geez. On to OT.
Not really feeling the Tang
I’m not a drew fan either.
Is Thamba getting worse?
@Crimsonorblue22 said in West Virginia Game Saturday:
@DanR u feel the drew?😳
Sounds like drinks..
Tang 🚀
Mountain Drew
Baylor & KSU know each others play books and tendencies. Interesting to watch.
Drew reminds me of koolaid
Not a drew fan
Bs call
@Crimsonorblue22 ref show all over the big 12.
Crazy
Dumb/ball hog
game over...
Froze his own player with the sub. Lucked out
Bill said MJ had back spasms right before the game. That's why he didn't play tonight.
@wissox said in West Virginia Game Saturday:
My sound doesn't work with ESPN+ so I'm just guessing that WVU fans are booing about every 10 seconds.
i've had problems over the years with audio messing up, and causing other issues.
99.9% of the time it's related to Dolby Digital Output. Find that setting and turn it off.
19 FT attempts today.
That's nice to see.
@tundrahok starting to wonder about him. Can't fake kidney stones though. He did say he didn't have covid but coach said twice he did.😳
@Crimsonorblue22 either terrible luck with injuries or saving face so he gets decent looks when transferring is my opinion.
@benshawks08 the third option would be self has decided to use the Remy Martin strategy. Which is actually just the Malik Newman strategy. Keep a guy under wraps and then break him out on Feb March so no one has any tape on how to stop him. For a while I thought this was possible with rice. I don’t actually now.
Game highlights for me -
I hope we are seeing a trend... Jayhawk grit on the road! This game was never in question, even in the second half when down to two possession lead. Why? Because we maintained excellent composure! When they fought back we hit big shots and had defensive stops to prevent them from huge runs.
5 guys in double-figures? Are you kidding me? We've got such an even attack now even with a volume shooter like JWil...
Speaking of JWil... his scrap, especially on the boards, needs to be recognized! Between him an Kevin we shouldn't lose many boards wars. This is becoming more dominant as the season progresses because this team is BUYING IN to Self ball!
This is a perfect year to have the Big 12 be as tough as it is. I have no problem if we drop some conference games... it should help us build a tougher team for March. Having a team that is starting to look like road warriors is a huge advantage come March. I just hope we hold serve in AFH!
This is becoming perhaps the most-satisfying team to watch under the Bill Self era! When we execute, it's a thing of beauty!
Gradey... what a weapon! We hang in games and then suddenly he pumps in a few treys and punches up our lead! Wow! And then another example where he followed his shot and rebounded! Who else does this in college basketball?
Bobby! Can't stress his contribution enough! 18 minutes produced 5 points, 3 rebounds, 2 assists... He outright won a game for us early on this season and he'll win us more this year just by contributing throughout a game!
Pace of game? Does it matter anymore? We know we can run. We can also execute well in the half court!
I'm happy and I still see plenty of room for improvement between now and March!
The passing is sensational.
The value of the team is that all 5 can make winning plays, not one of them has to be the person that makes the winning play. That's very hard to defend.
KJ is averaging more than Dave was last year at this time. The team is better defensively, although still not as good offensively as last year. McCullar fits so well with what we do, having him next to Juan is almost unfair. The beauty of this team is we haven't even scratched the surface yet.
Juan is realizing he can make 2-3 3's a game easily, KJ is inventing new ways to score ( he tries to shoot but is guarded- he resets, creates some distance from the defender and sinks the 7 footer. Freaking BRILLIANT).
Gradey is just beginning. They've tried to shut him down and he's figuring out ways to get open, and when he does, he's Larry Bird. JW has been slogging, but they're playing him too many minutes. If they give him 5 minutes more rest, I think the shooting numbers will improve rapidly. Bobby has been so good- he is a one man offensive machine, whether passing or driving to the rim. Just fearless and relentless.
We're certainly going to be tested in the best conference in the nation, but I still say our floor is 14-4 in conference.
@drgnslayr said in West Virginia Game Saturday:
Game highlights for me -
I hope we are seeing a trend... Jayhawk grit on the road! This game was never in question, even in the second half when down to two possession lead. Why? Because we maintained excellent composure! When they fought back we hit big shots and had defensive stops to prevent them from huge runs.
5 guys in double-figures? Are you kidding me? We've got such an even attack now even with a volume shooter like JWil...
Speaking of JWil... his scrap, especially on the boards, needs to be recognized! Between him an Kevin we shouldn't lose many boards wars. This is becoming more dominant as the season progresses because this team is BUYING IN to Self ball!
This is a perfect year to have the Big 12 be as tough as it is. I have no problem if we drop some conference games... it should help us build a tougher team for March. Having a team that is starting to look like road warriors is a huge advantage come March. I just hope we hold serve in AFH!
This is becoming perhaps the most-satisfying team to watch under the Bill Self era! When we execute, it's a thing of beauty!
Gradey... what a weapon! We hang in games and then suddenly he pumps in a few treys and punches up our lead! Wow! And then another example where he followed his shot and rebounded! Who else does this in college basketball?
Bobby! Can't stress his contribution enough! 18 minutes produced 5 points, 3 rebounds, 2 assists... He outright won a game for us early on this season and he'll win us more this year just by contributing throughout a game!
Pace of game? Does it matter anymore? We know we can run. We can also execute well in the half court!
I'm happy and I still see plenty of room for improvement between now and March!
the ONLY crutch we have and only hope but the ONE thing that could end up being our un doing in the NCAA'S - is and we seen evidence of it in our only loss-. - -Is Length and Big's We still have really no bench - e have to get more contribution /development from our bigs off the bench , this could very easily be our ending if we don't get something from Udeh or Zuby - - just got to. - - Otherwise somewhere in the tourney we are going to run into somebody that will just end up eating us alive inside - -only shortcoming I see
@benshawks08 said in West Virginia Game Saturday:
@benshawks08 the third option would be self has decided to use the Remy Martin strategy. Which is actually just the Malik Newman strategy. Keep a guy under wraps and then break him out on Feb March so no one has any tape on how to stop him. For a while I thought this was possible with rice. I don’t actually now.
Things are always possible until they aren’t.
@drgnslayr said in West Virginia Game Saturday:
Game highlights for me -
I hope we are seeing a trend... Jayhawk grit on the road! This game was never in question, even in the second half when down to two possession lead. Why? Because we maintained excellent composure! When they fought back we hit big shots and had defensive stops to prevent them from huge runs.
5 guys in double-figures? Are you kidding me? We've got such an even attack now even with a volume shooter like JWil...
Speaking of JWil... his scrap, especially on the boards, needs to be recognized! Between him an Kevin we shouldn't lose many boards wars. This is becoming more dominant as the season progresses because this team is BUYING IN to Self ball!
This is a perfect year to have the Big 12 be as tough as it is. I have no problem if we drop some conference games... it should help us build a tougher team for March. Having a team that is starting to look like road warriors is a huge advantage come March. I just hope we hold serve in AFH!
This is becoming perhaps the most-satisfying team to watch under the Bill Self era! When we execute, it's a thing of beauty!
Gradey... what a weapon! We hang in games and then suddenly he pumps in a few treys and punches up our lead! Wow! And then another example where he followed his shot and rebounded! Who else does this in college basketball?
Bobby! Can't stress his contribution enough! 18 minutes produced 5 points, 3 rebounds, 2 assists... He outright won a game for us early on this season and he'll win us more this year just by contributing throughout a game!
Pace of game? Does it matter anymore? We know we can run. We can also execute well in the half court!
I'm happy and I still see plenty of room for improvement between now and March!
Yes pace still matters - we have to play fast whether it’s in the half court or making it a full court game. It’s exactly what happened against Nova in the final four last year.
I am doubtful we will have another big guy mesh so well with our current starting 5 like KJ does. Doesn't mean we won't need our bigs. Just means we have some level of depth. When KJ goes out we may lose some offense... may lose some of the speed on offense... but it is what it is and it is normal to not have an equal replacement. We've got several bigs we can turn to for help in any game. Hopefully, they will continue to improve and why won't they?
Will we have problems playing teams with size? Not so sure about that. Is the mismatch best on our side or theirs? Many bigs may not keep up with our pace. We beat a Duke team full of footers and did okay.
I think we just have to play to our advantages and do the best we can when dealing with mismatches. We've shown an ability to double-up D in the low post already, and we know this strategy has won teams with no height natties in the past. Why not us?
I think we need to get a bit more rebounding out of KJ then we have a darn good rebounding team, regardless of height! Also... we now know Gradey is a capable rebounder, too.
We have resonable depth right now. Just keep your fingers crossed we stay healthy the rest of the year! That is the key!
KJ might be opening Self's eyes to future recruiting, getting more 6'7, 6'8 types like him that are super athletic to be the 5. You can't teach what KJ has in him, but you can certainly go find something similar. KJ has made the offense dynamic because the narrative is no longer centered around this team not scoring in the post.
And look how he scores! I can only think of Timme being another 5 who has as soft of touch in mid range.
How did you like that blow by speed of KJ in the clip on the KUSports article from the WV game?
The mismatch goes both ways.... for scoring... one of the main offensive strategies is to get the other team's big to guard a smaller player on your team because it is easy to create scoring space.
Granted, another strategy is to get your big man under the basket being guarded by a smaller player.
I agree with your assessment; KJ has made our offense dynamic in a new way!
Yeah, we switch everything with KJ and that's the one concern I do see is we do get our smalls guarding bigger guys under the basket. Think Bobby was in foul trouble in the first half because of that. Harris has been a target as well in the past. It doesn't seem to happen a lot where teams take advantage since, we have venus fly traps waiting for entry passes etc but at times we've been exploited there. I'm impressed at how Gradey, Kevin, & J Will can just wall up and make it difficult to score. KJ's defensive activity has increased as well with his confidence blooming
Most of the time... bad interior defense doesn't start with being undersized. That's how it ends. Meaning... if you have size you can sometimes makeup for other defensive mistakes.
In our case... KJ doesn't have that option so his key is to not make those early defensive mistakes. What I'm talking about is footwork. Being able to stay in position while the opposing big hits you with his "shake-n-bake" or whatever. Usually it involves some kind of pivot move.
The key for KJ is to use his speed (and brain) to hedge and anticipate properly in the low post. Most of this will come from scouting and watching opposing bigs on tape. Bigs play a predictable game! Also, KJ is small, but he does have strength and must use it to not get pushed around too much.
We could show a little weakness in March on those second games in the weekend when we don't have time to prepare for a specific team. Maybe we face a big with great moves and KJ isn't ready.
@drgnslayr said in West Virginia Game Saturday:
Most of the time... bad interior defense doesn't start with being undersized. That's how it ends. Meaning... if you have size you can sometimes makeup for other defensive mistakes.
In our case... KJ doesn't have that option so his key is to not make those early defensive mistakes. What I'm talking about is footwork. Being able to stay in position while the opposing big hits you with his "shake-n-bake" or whatever. Usually it involves some kind of pivot move.
The key for KJ is to use his speed (and brain) to hedge and anticipate properly in the low post. Most of this will come from scouting and watching opposing bigs on tape. Bigs play a predictable game! Also, KJ is small, but he does have strength and must use it to not get pushed around too much.
We could show a little weakness in March on those second games in the weekend when we don't have time to prepare for a specific team. Maybe we face a big with great moves and KJ isn't ready.
As you Said, even when you face a bigger team, specially in the post area, the undersized team is by no means helpless. Just use the same concepts that Villanova did in 2016 and 2018. I may be proven wrong in March, but I truly believe this team has the saavy and coaching to do something similar.
@rockchalkjayhawk PCM should be used over DD unless you have a proper 5.1.