KU will be without LT Dominic Puni who has decided to opt out to focus on preparing for the NFL where he's projected as a guard who should go sometime in day 2 of the NFL Draft (2nd or 3rd round).
@Texas-Hawk-10 Not surprising but what a find and job by LL and staff. Kid was at a D2 Missouri school before transferring in.
I think Devin ends up entering the Draft . Well no maybe I'd say mor like 50/50 right now. A lot of things to consider, Average life span in the NFL for running backs is very shorts-- -3 years they said I think in a way he might wanna come back though and become the all time rushing leader being a home town kid, has been mentioned before. Can't blame him either way
It is kind of sad in a way, however, I will not be surprised if true RB position is ultimately gone from NFL.
I can see this position evolve into a hybrid TE position.
The UNLV defense gives up 6.1 yds per play and 35.5 pts per game in the Mountain West. What? KU's offense is going to need oxygen in the huddle. My home is full of relatives, so I won't be at the game. I really hope losing Coach Kotelnicki won't dampen KU's offense. Score quickly, score often and rout the Rebs. KU needs a bowl win.
DE Austin Booker is also not with KU in Phoenix.
I hear Booker is very likely going to the NFL and has already moved out. At any rate, I don't think he's coming back to Kansas.
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Guaranteed Rate Bowl News:
I hear Booker is very likely going to the NFL and has already moved out. At any rate, I don't think he's coming back to Kansas.
He's home in Indy weighing his future options.
I really dislike it starts at 8 jayhawk time
I would think if he's not playing that he's already decided on the option he plans to take. I understand the worry of an injury but wasn't that possible every game during the season. Our sense of loyalty (to team, teammates, school, etc.) seems to have disappeared over the years.
I agree with you about this team. My point is about so many at all of the universities in bowl games who suddenly decide to sit out a game that the team worked hard to get to. Suddenly an individual's loyalty disappears because he puts his health (which had been on the line every other game during the season) ahead of the team. Of course, I'm old and see things through different glasses!
@COHawk said in Guaranteed Rate Bowl News:
I agree with you about this team. My point is about so many at all of the universities in bowl games who suddenly decide to sit out a game that the team worked hard to get to. Suddenly an individual's loyalty disappears because he puts his health (which had been on the line every other game during the season) ahead of the team. Of course, I'm old and see things through different glasses!
Understand , partially anyways but you also have to consider that these kids that are sitting out of the bowl , they too was a part of that team that worked hard to get where they are at. An individual has to realize that these kids that are sitting out of these bowl games - -those kids are having to think about their future on down the line - -most , well really all that sit out are players that are trying to prepare for their future.
The NFL , I bet if you were to ask the kids that are playing in these bowl games if they are mad ---feel a lack of loyalty , because they guys are sitting out of these bowls ? --To the player I would say 95 % if not more would say NO , WHY ?- -because they realize these guys are looking to their future. - -The NFL , these other kids they get that , they understand. Are they disappointed that these guys are not playing ? - - I'm sure some of them are- - - but mad? --- no. Why ? -because they get it , they understand.- -What do we think almost to the tea is everyone of these kid's dreams ? - -I'll tell you what , it's to be able to
get that chance at the NFL.
Yes they take that chance of getting hurt , but why when your at the end of your college career and looking to the future- -why gamble on your future ? -- Not only is the NFL for these guys but just like other people - -it's their job , this is what they will do for their living, they just get to enjoy the love of the game while they get paid for it also. Plus some of these guys already are married , maybe have some kids already, they are looking out for their family --their future. -Loyalty is great but also look at it this way. If you were for instance you had a job had been there for some time and you had the opportunity arise as to where another Business came along offered you a better paying job, a nice increase in wages & benefits tell me - -would you stay with your present job because of loyalty or take the better job offered you with higher wages ? - -thinking of your family, I know what I would do- --just saying. Am I disappointed they not gonna play ? - -sure I am, make things harder for us but am I mad- - -NA , I am appreciative of their time here and wish them nothing but the best in the future, they will always be a great Jay Hawk to me
@COHawk said in Guaranteed Rate Bowl News:
I agree with you about this team. My point is about so many at all of the universities in bowl games who suddenly decide to sit out a game that the team worked hard to get to. Suddenly an individual's loyalty disappears because he puts his health (which had been on the line every other game during the season) ahead of the team. Of course, I'm old and see things through different glasses!
The combine might have resulted in fewer players participating in bowl games. I have no doubt that except for the stars who won't go there anyway, most players sitting out have been told that a bowl performance won't help their prospects. Whereas a stellar showing in the combine would raise their draft status a lot. An injury in the season could likely be recovered enough to do well, but the time after late bowl games is a lot shorter. Can't blame them a bit.
All the fans griping about loyalty won't pay a dime toward making up any injured player's lower earnings if they blow out a knee or Achilles. Fans demand loyalty entirely at the player's risk.
@COHawk said in Guaranteed Rate Bowl News:
I would think if he's not playing that he's already decided on the option he plans to take. I understand the worry of an injury but wasn't that possible every game during the season. Our sense of loyalty (to team, teammates, school, etc.) seems to have disappeared over the years.
This has been my contention. IF you tell someone it's ok for them to sit out because you might get hurt, well, unless you're a playoff team, why not sit out way back in October? 'Can't make the playoff anyways so these are meaningless games TO ME.'
This never used to happen. Only in recent years have players decided to screw their teammates over and their fans by sitting out games.
@wissox said in Guaranteed Rate Bowl News:
@COHawk said in Guaranteed Rate Bowl News:
I would think if he's not playing that he's already decided on the option he plans to take. I understand the worry of an injury but wasn't that possible every game during the season. Our sense of loyalty (to team, teammates, school, etc.) seems to have disappeared over the years.
This has been my contention. IF you tell someone it's ok for them to sit out because you might get hurt, well, unless you're a playoff team, why not sit out way back in October? 'Can't make the playoff anyways so these are meaningless games TO ME.'
This never used to happen. Only in recent years have players decided to screw their teammates over and their fans by sitting out games.
Here's another spin on it. When a player who has transferred out or skips a bowl game for the NFL, that's a chance for a younger player to get real game reps against a similar caliber team. This gives the coaches game film on a player they may not have had otherwise which can help with player development in the spring because now coaches see what specifically needs more development that you don't necessarily get in practice.
Take Caleb Williams for example, how does he benefit or USC benefit long term from him playing against Louisville in the Holiday Bowl? If he played, USC has a better shot at going 8-5 this season. They don't care because this season was already a massive disappointment for them. Playing a younger QB to see if they still need to find one in the portal is going to be a bigger longterm benefit to USC than Williams playing in their bowl game.
@Texas-Hawk-10 Couldn't Caleb then decided to quit on October 30 then or whenever? I still think it's dirty and ultimately could hurt fan support of a team.
@wissox said in Guaranteed Rate Bowl News:
@Texas-Hawk-10 Couldn't Caleb then decided to quit on October 30 then or whenever? I still think it's dirty and ultimately could hurt fan support of a team.
I think USC going 7-5 this year had a much bigger impact on their fan support this season than Caleb Williams not playing in a bowl game their fan base doesn't care about. USC's fanbase expects to play for national championships and when they fall way short of that goal like this season, their fans aren't going to care as much. Making a bowl game at Kansas is a much bigger deal than making one at USC.
Imagine if KU basketball enters a season as a Final Four favorite, but things happen and the team ends up in the NIT for whatever reason. Do you really think this fanbase is going to care about the NIT in that situation? Now imagine that team also has a player that's going to be a top 3 pick in the NBA draft. If you're that player, why do you care about a 2nd tier tournament when that result is far below team expectations entering the season?
College is meant to prepare and train a person for a professional career regardless of the field is it not? Players like Caleb Williams make business decisions on where to go based on where they believe will best prepare them for the NFL. It's a different mindset and mentality from a fan and it's always been that way. Rules changes just mean it's much more out in the open now instead of behind closed doors. If I grew up in Kansas a diehard Jayhawk fan, but my career ambition has always been to be a veterinarian, I'm ultimately not going to go to KU because KU doesn't have that program. I would be going to KSU because they're the school in Kansas with a veterinarian program.
@Texas-Hawk-10 Well for goodness sakes, glad you didn't go to veterinarian school then!
Well dam heard on TOS and hope to GOD it's not true , but heard been reported by multiple sources that Bean woke up feeling sick this morning, probably why the line dropped from 12 1/2 to 9 1/2 - -MAN what luck if true
The line has jumped closer UNLV and rumors are spreading that Jason Bean is very sick as of mid day.
Jason Bean warming up. Devin Neal warming up too.
Neal also just tweeted 3 frownie faces and the words "talk soon." Now I have no idea what that means but I would guess NFL.
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Never mind, lets go!
Let's go. Bean looking good in warmups. Devin Neal in for 2024. Let's go. Rout the Rebs.
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Guaranteed Rate Bowl News:
Jason Bean warming up. Devin Neal warming up too.
Neal also just tweeted 3 frownie faces and the words "talk soon." Now I have no idea what that means but I would guess NFL.
ya I'm afraid he is probably gone, big loss , but IF he does then good luck to him - -thank him for being here , our Rb room gonna be fine Hishaw , Johnny Thompson , Red Martel , Stewart - think we will be good
@jayballer67 said in Guaranteed Rate Bowl News:
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Guaranteed Rate Bowl News:
Jason Bean warming up. Devin Neal warming up too.
Neal also just tweeted 3 frownie faces and the words "talk soon." Now I have no idea what that means but I would guess NFL.
ya I'm afraid he is probably gone, big loss , but IF he does then good luck to him - -thank him for being here , our Rb room gonna be fine Hishaw , Johnny Thompson , Red Martel , Stewart - think we will be good
Nope he's back. Read my next post lol
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Guaranteed Rate Bowl News:
@jayballer67 said in Guaranteed Rate Bowl News:
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Guaranteed Rate Bowl News:
Jason Bean warming up. Devin Neal warming up too.
Neal also just tweeted 3 frownie faces and the words "talk soon." Now I have no idea what that means but I would guess NFL.
ya I'm afraid he is probably gone, big loss , but IF he does then good luck to him - -thank him for being here , our Rb room gonna be fine Hishaw , Johnny Thompson , Red Martel , Stewart - think we will be good
Nope he's back. Read my next post lol
lmao - -ya just saw that on your next post- - -AWESOME NEWS Jumpin Gee Hossie Toads - look out Big 12 we have arrived - -ROCK CHALK
Late December football is better than the alternative! There's literally only 3 basketball games today in NCAA. Looks like the game on now is going to end on time so we're not gonna have to ESPNews it to start!
I'm predicting a rousing KU victory by about 24 points. Trick plays galore, big plays, turnovers, announcers gushing about Lance and I guess the UNLV coach. They'll somehow work several KU hoops references in there.
Guess I misread the quarter. They're only finishing up the 3rd quarter. Goodness what is making this game so long?
@wissox said in Guaranteed Rate Bowl News:
Guess I misread the quarter. They're only finishing up the 3rd quarter. Goodness what is making this game so long?
First half was 2 hours long. A lot of injured players, reviews, penalties, and just general slowness.
What happens when this $@%#! Texas State / Rice game doesn't get over until 9pm? Can we watch elsewhere?
Ya, wondering the same thing. Looks
Like ESPN+ will have it.
Announcers sure didnāt mention when they just said Up Next, if we ever get to it.
YA WE HAVE TO HVE FIGHTS GOING ON, TEAMS SWITCHING THE BALL, THROWING INTS ALL KINDS OF STOPPAGE
I hate ESPN; I hate the 8pm game. Jeez.
Ok the ESPNPlus broadcast went to NFL live. Uh oh.
@rockchalkjayhawk Maybe they'll put us on ESPN2 then because taht's what they're showing now on that channel.
Coach talking about UNLV being explosive offensively , got a real stud WR named White -81 receptions & 1,356 yards 7 TD'S - -talks about their scores always include an explosive play, looks like a track meet.
Talks about how their weakness is runs up the middle and defending the deep ball - -well hmmm what we do well - -runs up the middle and deep balls
Twitter says ESPN2.
ESPN saying KU kickoff at 810 CT and the ESPN App
ESPN app took me to ESPN2 like everyone has been saying.
Nope. Not on espn2 for me.
Ahh delayed. 610 pm for me.
Oh, I can't stand this woman announcer.
Wow, great start. Kick it out of bounds. Dumb ass
Itās the thought that counts, right?
Youāre welcome. I celebrate Festivus. Seinfeld reference.
Bad ass
What about the wrestling?
Ok, lets forget about that drive.
@approxinfinity What drive?
well that was quick , not even four minutes
Got the worst announcer in history and a terrible first drive
Rough start. Let's go offense
Listening to Brian Hanni now, have to sync up the broadcast to it but it's worth it.
Fuhhhhh
Horse Hockey
I think the ref needs to turn up his microphone
Im probably late to the party, but just saw that Devin Neal is coming back next year!
@nuleafjhawk is that for sure?
@nuleafjhawk Merry Christmas!!
@approxinfinity Yes, he announced it.
Wow that was a hell of a throw
Well, crap!
This doesnāt have a good look atm
@approxinfinity according to the ESPN ticker at the bottom of my screen......
Can already tell , we ARE going to be able to move this ball against this guys. Devins 1st run, tht close pass to skinner, we gonna be all right. D has to stand up - -we be fine
What is with a 29 yard punt. Special teams have been a big problem all year. Need to address that next year...
I already dislike UNLV
There we go D
Time for a 99 yard drive.
Once again why is Wilson back there?
Grimm have a cut on his temple?
Skinners so good
Juggle?
UNLV should have challenged that.
Hope grim reapers ok!
Wilson!
Is our game on ESPN now since the other one is over?
Why is Neal coming back? NIL? Hes so good.
Wave the wheat Crimson!
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Fear the reaper
@approxinfinity He loves KU?
Break some records too
Yes on espn
that was to easy guys, told you we were going to be able to move the ball against these guys
Great, now I got to sync up the broadcast again. #1stworldproblems
Devin Neal is my new hero.
@kjayhawks said in Guaranteed Rate Bowl News:
@wissox I donāt know how and will mess something up lol
I pause TV at the kickoff and then when Brian Hanni Says here's the kick then I start up TV again. A little challenging, but it can be done.
@nuleafjhawk i mean its awesome and im happy but i want the guy to do whats best for him, its thats best then Hell Yeah!
Why is it so hazy? Or is it just my 1970ās TV.
Defense has found their feet after that first drive.
@wissox said in Guaranteed Rate Bowl News:
@kjayhawks said in Guaranteed Rate Bowl News:
@wissox I donāt know how and will mess something up lol
I pause TV at the kickoff and then when Brian Hanni Says here's the kick then I start up TV again. A little challenging, but it can be done.
But, you end up a couple of plays behind. Sometimes I watch the ESPN typed website; it's one play ahead of any broadcast I've found.
That field sucks
They said it is a closed dome.
That call sucks, even though they didn't show it, I just know it sucked.
@approxinfinity you're a better man than me. I want them to do what I want them to do. It's better for my attitude. Lol
These penalities going to hurt us, that roughing the passer/unsportsman like conduct was a phantom call
Ya I donāt know wtf that call was and didnāt show a replay so likely nothing there. I have a feeling this is going to turn into a shootout. Team that gets some stops or TOs will win
This UNLV coach played at Missouri, I just knew there was a reason I didn't like these guys!
Fuck these refs man
Brian Hanni was saying the penalty should have been on UNLV, but what a hilarious flop by kobe
Catch?
Catch!
Looks like a catch to me, definitely not enough to overturn it IMO but these zebras are out to get us I can already tell.
I thought that was on them
@kjayhawks Someone must've done something stupid in response. Maybe if Cobee doesn't flop then one of our guys doesn't lose their cool.
Bull crap. UNLV brought their own refs. Incomplete they said.
I just went into the youtube tv settings and deleted all my personal google data. Ads are completely different. Woo!
wtf
Our offense is undaunted by these refs. They just keep going.
Good decision bean
Wheat time
Is UNLV defense swiss cheese?
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Fear the reaper x2
@approxinfinity Limberger because it stinks
We've outgained them 197-40 since their opening drive.
If the officials let us we can blow this wide open.
Candy ? - - -Candy ? - - -just like taking Candy from a Baby- - -BAM - -TOUCHDOWN KU - - -ROCK CHALK
Please someone get that announcer some nasal spray or maybe septoplasty. I just can't listen to her.
Want Fairchild to score, Andale kid. Been thru it all.
@stoptheflop lol. I'm handling her since we're doing better!
@stoptheflop I think she is trying to talk deeper trying to be taken more seriously.
Letās see what bogus penalty this time
There u go
I'm here! We look pretty good.
I'm going to enjoy the game with the volume muted. I can't stand Beth Mowins accent (western NY/Ohio-ish). She sounds like a cartoon character.
Boys need to pack up and go home. No F-ing way we beat these zebras
That was weak as heck smh
4 flags for 55 yards against us, 1 for 5 on them.
They said the refs are from ACC
Stop!
@patoh3 said in Guaranteed Rate Bowl News:
They said the refs are from ACC
That explains it, they're all gonna be out of a job soon then when that league dissolves!
@wissox said in Guaranteed Rate Bowl News:
@patoh3 said in Guaranteed Rate Bowl News:
They said the refs are from ACC
That explains it, they're all gonna be out of a job soon then when that league dissolves!
This game would be on their resume though if they want a new job!
Big boy
That kicker looks like a sumo wrestler.
Have they shown any replays on our penalties?
They didn't on mello's
On the hold they did
So the 1st one then.
I think they missed a major hold on the int too but it didn't matter.
@patoh3 nope and @Crimsonorblue22 can pause and rewind tv these days and wasnāt much there at all. They know they are bogus or theyād show the replay
Ha, All American kicker barely makes the end zone. Maybe the crappy turf had something to do with it.
Too much bragging lol, so sorry!
nice kick
I can't!
Silly chiefs like play call there
Coach L is using all the fun plays. I don't mind
I think I could be the kicker on their team with that kick.
There's another hold
Bench press ref needed some air time
Grimm isn't messing around tonight!
Grimm flexing on these boys
Cancel that penalty UNLV coach!!!!
Cause D pushed off
Arnold!
WTW
3rimm
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great catch
Did Grimm flip that guy off?
Love those 2 guys!ā¤ļø chiefs u watching?
That wouldāve been good on Sundays, maybe the chiefs outta look 30 miles west for someone with hands.
We just got another personal foul
Wow perfect pass, better catch. Wow
71 yards in two plays. Wow
I can't decide if Bean is that good or the UNLV defense is ignorant, stupid, dumb and lazy. How can UNLV be so bad even with the refs in their pockets?
Our guy pushed him down after the whistle, that penalty was well earned.
Amaji Adams has got 45 yards in penalities, I think they have it in for him. -Bean with already right at 215 yards passing and 3 TD'S
This is the worst officiating crew in recorded history. We should be talking about how great Bean has looked instead we are talking about bogus penalties on the same guy that there is zero evidence he committed.
This is Bean's last college game, right? I'm thrilled to see him playing loose and not worrying about getting hurt etc..
@kjayhawks maybe Mahomes could be his backup?
He's always said he can throw it up and his guys can catch it
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Smoking lounge stadium. Why is it so foggy in there?
Another pick. We're going to cream these guys.
That QB ain't got no brains
Omg they called something UNLV who my brother in law is is at the game is showing me videos of late hits and jawing from them.
Phoggy!ā¤ļøšš„°
I'm offended they matched us up with these guys.
Shoot
Bean, you should have run it in
Had 15 yards right in front of you Jason
I wish the ref could figure out his microphone.
I'm not normally a violent person, but I really want to throat punch this ref
Nobody fās with De Jesus⦠except KU
@patoh3 said in Guaranteed Rate Bowl News:
I wish the ref could figure out his microphone.
His big moment on TV to show off his biceps and looks like a doofus
Pistons lost their 27th straight tonight!
Hatcher was seriously injured last yr, I think broke both lower bones in leg
risky blitz
@nuleafjhawk Ooooh. Maybe he's mute. Now I feel bad.
Get it here!
@nuleafjhawk why would he have that job?
@nuleafjhawk said in Guaranteed Rate Bowl News:
@nuleafjhawk Ooooh. Maybe he's mute. Now I feel bad.
That rare muteness where one random word blasts out over the PA system
Great tackle!
I was at a HS game a few years ago where the refs mic worked very well and he never turned it off. He'd blow his whistle right into the mic. We were all momentarily deafened.
Boom!
Bean jets
I'd love to see Bean take off on a full sprint. He'd blow these rebel guys away.
@Crimsonorblue22 probably some government program that has to provide jobs for deer in the headlights, intermittently mute, extremely close shaven morons.
Why no Hishaw
Letās use this clock
Fairchild. Pride of Andale, KS, and the entire state of Kansas. Even the Kstate fans like him.
The announcers just realized his mic is not working
I'll bet the ref put the batteries in backwards
@kjayhawks I was wondering the same, Hanni just mentioned he was in on that play.
UNLV cannot handle our receivers
Hey at least we committed that penalty
Skinner goes up
And⦠Bean has all the time in the world to bomb these
I'll be happy to watch that catch from different angles.
Review what? They just took our advantage of rushing to get a play in.
Why is this being reviewed, not even fliping close what a J-O-K-E these officials are.
might've touched, but I'm biased, so I say perfect catch.
I will say one thing about UNLV.
Their uniforms look exactly like my 7th grade uniforms. Mrs Johnson made them by hand. When she was sober.
or that was an elbow hitting the ground. I reverse my opinion
Glad we got to see that great catch 19 times!
Give it to Neal
Wheaties waved
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These two teams hate each other for some reason
Good Lord. This is like the Texas State game. Penalties on every damn play.
You can tag ACC officiating, on X letās light them up hawk nation this is ridiculous
Dont need to get Neal hurt. Or do you not say that during our bowl game? Lets wrap this one up.
I'm surprised they called it a TD and didn't review it, because I didn't see it there.
Who got it?
Neal is like one continuous muscle from his head to his feet
Lady is this your first rodeo?
No flag?? š³
@Crimsonorblue22 OH, I feel like she's been in the saddle a LOT
good job staying in bounds, rebel
This guy wrote his senior thesis on alley cat behavior.
O.M.G. A penalty on them??
@approxinfinity I wondered what he was talking about.
it's almost like the ref is dubbed by the stadium PA announcer now. LOL
@nuleafjhawk did I fall asleep or is this real?
Maybe the refs figured if they don't turn their mics on no one will recognize how many flags they're throwing.
Dude. Flag after flag
amateur hour
Someone needs to put a hand to the face of these zebras.
It's a good damn thing my mic isn't working
@nuleafjhawk lots of clowns here
Can someone get that man a mic? Or is his day job āprofessional mimeā?
This is just comical at this point what an absolute embarrassment for college football on prime time
If we weren't dominating them we'd be really really pissed right now.
I feel like we've got the all time record for most penalties in a half.
We aren't that kind of team!
Thank goodness I took the day off tomorrow
Show that crap!
FFFFFFFFFFFFF
That was stupid
Hard to argue those calls.
I donāt donāt blame him, getting mad at the bogus calls just go hit them.
It's football! Not interpretive dance.
She can count
These penalties are killing us, I tell you
Only down 21. Kick it.
HEY! Let's have a running bet on every play.
What penalty will KU get called for this time?
3 plays in a row without a penalty.
that kick took 6 seconds?
This is the most pissed I've ever been with an 18 point lead.
LL will clean this crap up at halfš¬
Radio just asked Lance about the refs, he said "I don't know if we can get a new crew in 20 minutes but they're killing this game right now."
It wasnāt necessary to hit but there was acting on that. Is that targeting? Lmao to the announcers, for pushing a guy here hit him with his forearm in the chest
Whoa! Love that guy!
Lance came out of the tunnel to talk to the refs. Odom is watching it too.
@kjayhawks did they call targeting?
@Crimsonorblue22 no but the lady announcer screaming for it was absolutely ridiculous on all fronts. This game all around is an embarrassment to CFB.
10 penalties for 140 yards. Think about that. 14 yards per penalty which means they're all 15 yarders except maybe one.
Look for a different UNLV team in the second half.
Odom is telling them no more free weed and hookers if they don't get their act together.
@kjayhawks She was calling for targeting? It was a penalty, but no way close to a targeting.
I wish the batteries in her mic would go dead.
They just announced there will be a flag burning as part of the traditional halftime celebration.
Oh Coach was HOT to say the least. During his half time talk with Brandon McAnderson he said he didn't know if we had enough time to get a new officiating crew in there or not, he said I don't know what to tell the team - he is not happy.- -I look for us to run the ball ore the 2nd half cause they going to be trying to defend the pass
Refs taking away from the amazing game our receivers are having....again.
The game is trending on twitter(X) for the reasons of announcing and officiating.
@jayballer67 I'd pass every single play. They can't begin to stop us
Iād like to see Hishaw get some carries no reason to risk injury to Neal.
Edit: not that I want Daniel to get injured but we got Mcduffie aswell
@kjayhawks They are saying everyone is doing a top-notch job?
Ok -there are 2 penalties on each team. For 10 yards each.
What's the score at halftime? I say 48-7
Ok so our wishlist which i completely agree with is
- More Hishaw, protect Neal
- pass more
- see Jason rip off a big run.
@approxinfinity see mute ref leave the game now.
See Odom cuffed and hauled away.
Boy, the production values of this broadcast are comical.
A: fake voiced Doris. Dislike announcers who sound like they are putting on an act
B: we missed at least four plays because the cameras werenāt ready.
C: the refās mike! How hard can it be to fix or replace it?
D: the flags! We will actually never know what any were forā¦
Mr. Bean! REALLY?
@rockchalkjayhawk worse game all around in resent memory
Big mistake
Wolp there goes our wishlist after getting punched in the mouth to start the half. Lets just kick their asses.
Does UNLV have every Latino player in college football? I have to say, I like those guys as long as we beat them/
And just so you donāt think Iām a sexist pigā¦nothing against females announcers. Just fake voiced announcers if any kind.
Heyyyy he got a mic
@approxinfinity bad omen
Man up, Bean.
Well in fairness beans receiver had space and was open, he just left the throw short.
@approxinfinity or figured out how to turn it on
Iām taking the blame for the start to the second half. On me. I switched from ESPN+ broadcast to ESPN when we were crushing em.
@rockchalkjayhawk needless to say you switched back?
@rockchalkjayhawk said in Guaranteed Rate Bowl News:
D: the flags! We will actually never know what any were forā¦
They have the penalties listed on the ESPN game play by play if youāre interested in what was called. Iām not sure what the refs are seeing, but thatās the record anyway.
@nuleafjhawk said in Guaranteed Rate Bowl News:
@rockchalkjayhawk needless to say you switched back?
Switched!
@dylans said in Guaranteed Rate Bowl News:
@rockchalkjayhawk said in Guaranteed Rate Bowl News:
D: the flags! We will actually never know what any were forā¦
They have the penalties listed on the ESPN game play by play if youāre interested in what was called. Iām not sure what the refs are seeing, but thatās the record anyway.
Some very mysterious calls for sure.
And replays not always there.
Did anyone see the face mask?
Yes, I saw it on the replay.
No replay of the latest penalty.
More fun plays coach. This game isn't that important to go conservative
Neal gets hit in the head 5 times on one play, no flag
Someone check these unlv players facemasks for sticky stuff
Leipold told the refs that he doesn't care about the Virginia Hall of Fame - they better start calling a clean game or they will have hell to pay.
huddling to see if the d was drawn off. Yes!
@DanR said in Guaranteed Rate Bowl News:
Neal gets hit in the head 5 times on one play, no flag
Let alone NO review. Theyāve reviewed just about everything else but that.
Never bet against Vegas
I really can't stand teams named rebels. I guess they identify with the Confederates.
WTF with the flags. Jesus.
Iād tell the players to leave the field, this a complete screw job at this point.
I bet there's fights in the stands. UNLV fans cheering penalties gonna piss off some unstable KU fans.
I can't find current game stats. Does anyone know how many penalties we have in this abomination of a game?
This crap is getting ridicilious, these guys should NEVER officiate another game EVER. we can't run one dm play without a penalty being called, and the thing is now it's effecting the play of the guys
Working for that Jayhawks -10.5
@nuleafjhawk said in Guaranteed Rate Bowl News:
I can't find current game stats. Does anyone know how many penalties we have in this abomination of a game?
14 penalities
@jayballer67 thank you.
I believe I saw somewhere that we had 55 FOR THE SEASON!
@nuleafjhawk said in Guaranteed Rate Bowl News:
I can't find current game stats. Does anyone know how many penalties we have in this abomination of a game?
https://www.espn.com/college-football/matchup/_/gameId/401551757 ā
I kind of doubt players are grabbing face masks willy nilly that have jack squat to do with the play. So, refs need to just ignore some of the bogus meaningless contact, like Neal getting clubbed in the head
We are committing at least some of these.
We may fart around and lose
This is some Big League BS
Not nearly as much as they are calling, plain and simple - - -NO
Looks like the Chief's game
The announcer promised to tell us why he wasnt surprised there were so many penalties after the ad break, then did not deliver on his promise
@nuleafjhawk said in Guaranteed Rate Bowl News:
Looks like the Chief's game
They haven't called any offsides unless you mean Taylor Swift is there.
Thats a massive flop
where was the hold
@approxinfinity he decided it might not be in his best interest to call the refs a bunch of lying, cheating, communist ass-wipes
@nuleafjhawk this a fixed game at this point, that holding call was weak.
Blatant fix. What's the spread?
-10.5
This is unbelievable.
Is Jalon suited up?
This is the most insane game in history
Lance's got to tell these guys to ignore the negativity with these refs and start playing the way they did to get this lead.
Bury them, guys. F this
Stay away from sidelines
D is amped. Play hard, but keep cool.
Whew
Can someone break his mic again?
UNLV sub and we didnāt get a chance to smh, this is a fixed game folks
UNLV has had as many penalties in this game as we have in the 3rd quarter
@nuleafjhawk he has a mouth full of marbles anyway. No one can understand him.
Get Jason back again!
Guaranteed Rigged Bowl
@kjayhawks Oh I know, just stating the facts, not the opinions!
Even LLs wife is on X going nuts. the whole world is seeing this screw job
What did I tell y'all about the weed and the hookers?
Was a big lead. How do you keep it?
NO stupid turnovers. Jeez.
Had a 98 yard drive earlier. Let's top it.
UN. BE. FRICKIN. LEEVABLE
Stormy daniels?
Devin
@Crimsonorblue22 š¤£š¤£š¤£
Bean run
Get Devin 99 yards on this drive and I'd be happy
Oh my
whew, recovered
Closing in on record for most penalty yards in one game (199)
I'm too old for this crap
Hishaw, come on!
@Crimsonorblue22 there it is
Hmmm. Who could the flag be on?
Oh, refs needed some air time.
What is the record for penalties
No horse collar
He's allowed to tackle a guy by the helmet now
Refried Bean!
Missed facemask
@kjayhawks being set tonight
Heck of a pass
Holdy crap man
@wissox said in Guaranteed Rate Bowl News:
@patoh3 Did you know you've posted "Yes, I saw it on the replay" about 40 times?
I refreshed,a nd it stopped.
Released the block and the guy got the tackle. Still threw a flag. F refs
Hope the refs have escorts to their vehicles after the game.
Well, kinda hope
Wow at least defense is getting rest
Pile on
@nuleafjhawk theyre in arizona, its escorts IN their vehicles
go for it
GO FOR IT!
fake it, throw the bomb
Plunger guy is in the house!
Good run - - -4th & 1 - here comes a penalty
Up the middle to Casey or Fairchild?
201 penalty yards!
Even if we get it, theyāll throw a flag
have you EVER , EVER , EVER seen so many calls go against ANY team in a game - -these are ACC refs
No bean up the middle
@wissox said in Guaranteed Rate Bowl News:
201 penalty yards!
And about half of those calls are legit
@jayballer67 they're still pissed about all the money they lost when we beat UNC for the National Championship in basketball.
@jayballer67 thatās the issue coupled with obvious missed calls on them, they was offsides 3 plays ago
Put Daniels in and run the option.
that was a hell of a block
Wheat!
Beautiful
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There we go
I feel bad for screaming at Bean to just run it
I feel bad for screaming at Bean to just run it
99 yard drive times two
Was hoping the announcer would tell us a personal anecdote about his area 51 experience that explained all the penalties. Cut back to him in a tinfoil hat. āTheyre hereā
Was hoping the announcer would tell us a personal anecdote about his area 51 experience that explained all the penalties. Cut back to him in a tinfoil hat. āTheyre hereā
Was hoping the announcer would tell us a personal anecdote about his area 51 experience that explained all the penalties. Cut back to him in a tinfoil hat. āTheyre hereā
Why are they not penalized for celebrating a TD?
Wtf just happened? Did they kick somebody out of the game???
UNLV guys were charging at the KU bench and Lance ran out there like he was defending his bench. I mean what TV channel doesn't show stuff like that? Radio guys are like they've never seen anything like it.
@kjayhawks he was squeezing his rear end 1st quarter
They ran right at bean and got in his face and the refs called nothing for about 10 seconds.
Shoot it was on them Iām shocked
Probably a bad game to use a ref as your fundraising logo
That's got to be a hold
@kjayhawks 199 yards for one team in a game
Back to back penalties on UNLV, yep im asleep
CRAP!! MY TV IS BROKEN!
I thought it showed a penalty on UNLV
@kjayhawks how did we celebrate?
I'm expecting a flag every tackle at this point
Need a pick here
UNLV QB is about to make a big mistake
Interesting strategy, killing 6 minutes and still scoring on a drive where they penalize us every play.
well, threw into five Jayhawks and UNLV caught it anyway
Cobee side
Hes going to De-jesus this game. Is he the antichrist?
Bean time. Oh boy.
Are these refs quakers or something?
Lance looks like hes suffered a half dozen punches to the gut
So use to giving to us, he missed up
Once again no replay of what that call was.
This just get more and more crazy. Think the ACC would fire these guys after this.
Some players said curse words maybe. Didn't get anything on tape.
We'd like to thank the Phoenix broadcast Tech class from Sunshine HS for assisting us with tonights ESPN telecast.
Espn responsible for replays?
the UNLV player took a swing at the KU player for the un sportsman like conduct
@Crimsonorblue22 oh, thx @wissox
Nearing 300 yards of penalties, 3 complete fields
@kjayhawks they could fire them RIGHT NOW. Replace them with a couple of drunken blind guys in the stands
There is a high chance of fight after this one
@jayballer67 and they weren't DQ'd
Sorry, it is actually:
Most yards one team has been penalized in one game: 238 by Arizona State against UTEP on November 11, 1961 (on 13 penalties)
Late hit
Only need 37 more yards
No hold
Deven Neal now 4th place all time on KU's rushing list.
WOW!!!!!
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Woohoo!!!
They're going to call an illegal block
Doink!!
Oh my gosh! Thought skinner ........
No flag?????? WOO HOO.
I can't believe they didn't call a penalty
Wow great blocking by Reaper and Skinner there.
I 'bout š¤®
A kickoff from the normal spot coming up!
@nuleafjhawk everytime there is a play and there isnāt a flagged I ask my wife to slap me. Thankfully she isnāt violent
I changed my clothes. Got hot anyway. Bb T-shirt and shorts
Looks like Bean has composed himself a little - -thank GOD -5 TD'S and like 393 yards passing
Probably a penalty for fans cheering for KU.
Any bets that's there's a big ol brawl after the game?
@kjayhawks said in Guaranteed Rate Bowl News:
@nuleafjhawk everytime there is a play and there isnāt a flagged I ask my wife to slap me. Thankfully she isnāt violent
LMAO - - -i don't blame you
Do wives usually stand on the sideline? I'm cool w/it.
@nuleafjhawk I predicted it a long time ago! Heck, if an UNLV fan walked down the street right now I'd go fight him/her/granny/gramps/kindergarnter doesn't matter.
Best WR's on any team!
We have 200 more yards in offense and . . . Oh yeah, 200+ yards in penalties.
I bet on KU 30 minutes before kick, spread was 8 points. Letās see here if the flags fly and keep another UNLV drive rolling.
COME ON D!
@Crimsonorblue22 - thanks! Looks like it worked!
We all need to go to this game in ..... wherever to hold wissox back! How fun.
@kjayhawks I would have predicted 63-7. Seriously.
KU šš„°
Good pass Moana.
Refs bets must have bet
on the 3rd quarter score
Were we wagging our finger at the ref? Lol
@approxinfinity no!
WAIT - - - WAIT , no penalities - - -stop the press - -that can't be
I was waving one particular fingerš
I think the refs āmissedā the holding/PI call that they were supposed to make.
There's post game after this. Sounds like a lot going on we didn't know about! Hope they tell us. Some of their players approached our sideline?
Iām just gonna say this, I aināt ever using Guaranteed Rate for Jack shit after this mess š¤£
I almost think at some point, if they aren't completely corrupt, the refs must think, "hey are we the bad guys here?"
@Crimsonorblue22 multiple times according to my bro in law who is at the game.
THROW A BOMB!
Guaranteed flag bowl is not going to gain you many customers
Hooooooooweeeeeee!
This is so much fan when refs aren't ruining the game.
3rimm!!!
Grim Reaper x3
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3 to Grimm. 3 to Arnold. 3 to UNLV.
Gotta hfull disclosure.
@nuleafjhawk you thought he couldn't talkš¤£
436 yards passing. last three for - -40- - -56 - - & 44 - -all TD'S
@nuleafjhawk hey its Christmas, sharing is caring š¤£
Flags on made extra points are just junk. These guys are going for the record.
@nuleafjhawk sharing is caring
Love these receivers- - -All coming back next year, - - -Grimm , Skinner, & Arnold
Who is gonna get MVP?
The NCAA record is 42 penalties, from a 1986 game between North Carolina Central and St. Paulās. The Division I record is 39, which has happened in four games. The FBS record is 36, from a 1986 game between San Jose State and Fresno State. The Spartans had 24 flags in that game.
@kjayhawks i liked the work Arnold put in with the game in the balance, multiple times
Tie for mvp
Only 25 combined penalties so far
Can you give it to Bean, Grimm and Arnold
I would probably still give it to Bean
Bean carried both teams
Bean didn't quit!
Should be 56-3
I'd give it to Bean unless he pulls a late 4th quarter meltdown of the ages.
Did I say that out loud
21 points in the 4th quarter. Clock reads 8:00 as I write that.
Bs
Oops
Lmao gotta get back to working this spread down
216 according to espn. 238 is within reach!
found a replay for an actual penalty. Good job ESPN
KState fans getting mouthy on twitter.
18 penalties for 216 yards
We play these guys next fall.
This maybe one of the longest games too started at 8:10
Somehow these penalties are Bill Self's corrupt fault.
Who's joining me in Atlanta on January 20, 2025?
That was a great catch
We all need to see this home game next fall!
Interesting that 238 yards in 1961 was against Arizona St and they also won the game 48-15
Penalty record ftw!
Late hit?
I really just want to see Bean blaze down the sideline for a 70 yarder.
Me too
THROW THE DAMN BALL! GO FOR THE JUGULAR!
Classic Jared Casey!
Casey!
The man!
Best hands in the B12
Doesn't know him to well!
Bean MVP at this point 450 yards and 6 TDs
Not exactly comfortable with Butter Fingers in there right now
Clap clap. We got rattled when the stadium got loud. Can hear a pin drop now
Noice!
I want Lance to ram it down their throats and score again.
Word up
Rock Chalk Jayhawk!
Cmon, a couple more personal fouls and we are #1
Sucks to see a kid get injured when the game is over. Oof
She whispered that!
Why is she whispering
That was the worst officiated game I've ever seen.
Lmao talking shit while down double digits
"While the ball was dead - AFTER the play"
Glad he clarified that
@Crimsonorblue22 she forgot to wear the tinfoil hat her partner handed her, hearing voices now.
Why do you mention this at the end of game? The gun victims
Thought the campus shooting would be a great way to wrap up a bowl loss I guess.
How high could we be ranked preseason I wonder? Is sniffing top 15 possible?
Missed the bath
Hey can we get some penalty yards out of this melee?
missed the gatoraid dump. Good grief ESSPN
Told you there'd be a brawl
hope the refs are at the bottom of that scrum
When i dip you dip Bean dip
Refs fault for the near brawl.
If you're familiar with pond scum, it's a little above UNLV
Thanks Jason Bean for rescuing Jayhawk football this year.
UNLV sucks, come on coaches!
UNLV is the most classless university Iāve ever seen. Canāt wait to spank that ass next season.
Jason won MOP
I'll miss himš¢
Well that was fun. Peace out homies!
And here we go. Brawl.
Good job, sports team!
Thanks for making the season fun, Bucketeers!!
Rock Chalk!
Good times! Good night everyone!
I got to be up at 4
Just to bad the officials had to try and steal the limelight - - -Nice finish to the Season guys - -NINE WINS, -just think in the past it would of taken five-six years to gt NINE Wins - -ROCK CHALK
I kinda wonder if Jason has parents. I looked at the roster and it doesn't mention any family. Just wonder.
This Team could be REALLY GOOD next year
Skinner and Grimm had 6 passes combined averaging 40 yards per catch.
I did figure out Bean threw those picks because he wasnāt feeling well lol
Jason Bean You- - You my man are a true winner , Thank You for being a Kansas Jay Hawk- -- -Great Game, Thank you for leading this team to this 9-4 Season -- -ROCK CHALK
KU is going to be a Big 12 contender next season. We have a relatively easy schedule with only 4 games against 2023 bowl teams. UNLV, ISU, KSU, and West Virginia are the 4 schools KU plays that made a bowl this season.
If KU is a contender for the B12 next season, they'll also be CFP contenders as well with the expanded playoffs.
Why do our coaches have to do those pill popping commercials? Who got in trouble?!? Lol
HAWKS
Jason Bean can have a pro career. He is a dual threat QB.
I didnāt watch all the football games, but Cobee and Grimm consistently stood out and seem like they could have a shot at the NFL. Neal could make a roster as well.
Do any KU players have a pro grade on them (draftable)? It seems like a couple of the big uglies sat out to get ready for the draft, so there should be at least that.
I sure hope that is KU's last trip to the Guaranteed Flag Bowl. Glad I didn't attend in person. I enjoyed our big play offense. I had hoped more of the younger players, like Cole Ballard would get a late series of play in. Hey, UNLV has quite a punter, Marshall Nicholas, 3 punts-53 yd avg. He would be a nice pickup in the portal if he's so inclined.
@stoptheflop Hey it was the refs time to shine! Donāt step on it. š what a shit show!
@dylans said in Guaranteed Rate Bowl News:
I didnāt watch all the football games, but Cobee and Grimm consistently stood out and seem like they could have a shot at the NFL. Neal could make a roster as well.
Do any KU players have a pro grade on them (draftable)? It seems like a couple of the big uglies sat out to get ready for the draft, so there should be at least that.
KU DE Austin Booker who sat out last night is expected to declare for the NFL Draft. Booker is projected as an early Day 3 pick (4th-5th round) right now.
Starting LT Dominick Puni also opted out to focus on NFL Draft prep work. He's also currently projected as a 4th-5th round pick.
Both players are steadily moving up draft boards and could each move into 3rd round pick territory with good showings in the Senior Bowl for Puni and Pro Day and Combine for each player.
For the 2024 NFL Draft, Mike Novitsky will also have a chance to be a late round pick.
Overall, KU has quite a bit of potential NFL talent on the roster. Both starting CB's Bryant amd Dotson have NFL futures, Devin Neal announced he was coming back yesterday after projecting as a 3rd-4th round pick this draft cycle. Jalon Daniels could be a pick he can stay healthy for a season. I don't know that any of the receivers will be drafted next season, but at least Grimm amd Arnold should get training camp invites in 2025.
I really love seeing KU players get drafted. Especially situations like this. Booker finally got a chance to see the field, for some reason Minnesota didn't play him. Then with Puni, scouts got to see him play at a higher level.
@Texas-Hawk-10 @BShark can you speak to whether it could be financially lucrative for Neal to stay, our emotions on the matter aside?
@approxinfinity said in Guaranteed Rate Bowl News:
@Texas-Hawk-10 @BShark can you speak to whether it could be financially lucrative for Neal to stay, our emotions on the matter aside?
NIL deals help a bit, but I doubt it would be financially competitive with a rookie NFL contract in Neal's case. A third round pick will make about $1 million per season on a rookie contract and a 7th round pick will make about $775k per season on a rookie deal.
Neal is definitely taking a financial risk by coming back next season because his NIL valuation is currently about $400k.
@Texas-Hawk-10 thanks. Next years team not only projects to have talent but also passion for the program. Amazing stuff.
I have a serious question for once.
During penalty breaks (so about 2 1/2 hours) the announcers were very complimentary of the KU program and the direction that LL has us heading.
My question is - did they talk like this when Mangino had us playing well and took us to bowl games in the day?
Is the program better or do we just have better players? I feel like the community embraces this team and definitely has better support from the A.D.
Bottom line - what's different about us now and 25-ish years ago?
@nuleafjhawk said in Guaranteed Rate Bowl News:
I have a serious question for once.
During penalty breaks (so about 2 1/2 hours) the announcers were very complimentary of the KU program and the direction that LL has us heading.
My question is - did they talk like this when Mangino had us playing well and took us to bowl games in the day?
Is the program better or do we just have better players? I feel like the community embraces this team and definitely has better support from the A.D.
Bottom line - what's different about us now and 25-ish years ago?
Mangino was an asshole of a human being who pissed a lot of people off around campus including high level donors and people in the AD's office. He also didn't make many friends in the media either. There's a reason why other schools weren't sniffing around Mangino when he broke through here. There's also a reason why KU couldn't secure the funding for stadium renovations even after the Orange Bowl and it was because of how much people hated Mangino as a person. Lew Perkins not being well liked either didn't help when it came to fund raising.
Leipold is a much more personable and well liked person which is why he's viewed much more favorably than Mangino ever was.
@nuleafjhawk the program is much better the Orange bowl season was a one hit wonder after the way things went down. LL has an excellent chance at not only a bowl game for a third consecutive year for the first time in school history but this team at this moment with whom we know is returning could be playing for a conference championship next year.
I know a guy that works in Lawrence and for the company Christmas party they had KU basketball players there. He said they cut them each 10k checks for about an hour of talking and taking pictures.
@kjayhawks said in Guaranteed Rate Bowl News:
I know a guy that works in Lawrence and for the company Christmas party they had KU basketball players there. He said they cut them each 10k checks for about an hour of talking and taking pictures.
Basketball players at KU will generally earn more than the football players because that pie is much smaller. Even the walk on players will make quite a bit more in NIL than most of the football players will.
Boy not going to lie, think we have a very legit shot at taking a run at the Big 12 title. -We got Jalen back , just hope he can stay healthy, our stud running back -and I tell you what I love this group of receivers, man these guys are just absolute studs, I think you would be hard pressed to find a better trio in the Big 12 Grimm - - Skinner----& Arnold Made some unbelievable catches last night.
Had to laugh at the color commentator on Arnold catch in the end zone saying yep you got Mossed- - Randy Moss , and another tim when can't remember which one it was made a hell of a catch think it was Skinner--- he says Stop - - -Stop it lol -Love this group of receivers
What happened to the ācatchā they were reviewing that looked legit by all announcers before commercial then we came back and nothing said but we guess it wasnāt! 𤬠skinner! I feel like we missed half the game by these idiots! Announcers and espn producers, camera guys? Sorry
@Crimsonorblue22 when the mob says it ain't a catch - it ain't a catch.
@nuleafjhawk saw somebody say it was Arnold not skinner. Anybody remember?
@nuleafjhawk Leipold is reminding me of Bo Ryan. Bo won 4 DIII championships at UW Platteville in the 90's, then got his break and was very successful at UW. He's still the all time win percentage leader in the BIG. Leipold I think won 6 DIII championships at UW Whitewater. He knows how to win and I believe the ceiling is high. I'm pretty hyped, more than I remember being with Mangino.
Not related to KU but WV/NC - -West Virginia score 11 seconds into the game lol
@Texas-Hawk-10 If you are talking about on3's algorithm that is just based on social media impressions + other unstated factors and is detached from reality.
If there were actual numbers put out there that is something differently entirely but I do not believe on3 at all. For example Kevin's NIL value before the season was set under $100,000. A laughable number. They since increased it to around 800k.
I would agree that Neal is taking a risk though, I was surprised to hear that he is coming back.
they replaying our game right now on ESPNU- getting ready to start 2nd half
@wissox said in Guaranteed Rate Bowl News:
@nuleafjhawk Leipold is reminding me of Bo Ryan. Bo won 4 DIII championships at UW Platteville in the 90's, then got his break and was very successful at UW. He's still the all time win percentage leader in the BIG. Leipold I think won 6 DIII championships at UW Whitewater. He knows how to win and I believe the ceiling is high. I'm pretty hyped, more than I remember being with Mangino.
That is correct. He won 6 national championships in 8 years there. While that program is historically pretty good, those are also their only national titles, so Lance is the only coach to ever do that there.
The future of Kansas football is very bright as long as he sticks around. He is 59 though, so we don't have too much longer, and need to nail the next hire as well.
@BShark said in Guaranteed Rate Bowl News:
@Texas-Hawk-10 If you are talking about on3's algorithm that is just based on social media impressions + other unstated factors and is detached from reality.
If there were actual numbers put out there that is something differently entirely but I do not believe on3 at all. For example Kevin's NIL value before the season was set under $100,000. A laughable number. They since increased it to around 800k.
I would agree that Neal is taking a risk though, I was surprised to hear that he is coming back.
That's why I used valuation and not what he actually earns because I don't think we know the full amount someone like Devin Neal is actually earning in NIL.
on3 isn't meant to be a place where you find out how much a player actually earns because there are variables involved in that such as what school a player goes to that on3 doesn't necessarily factor in.
A star player for Kansas basketball is going to be pulling in high 6 figure or better in NIL money. We know Dickinson is likely making $2 million in NIL based on his recruitment. $100k is about the minimum I would expect any men's KU basketball player to be pulling in simply because they play for Kansas basketball. I'd be very surprised if Dillon Wilhite, Patrick Cassidy, or Wilder Evers aren't making 6 figures in NIL just being on the team.
Devin Neal coming back I'm going to guess is largely based on him being a local kid and wanting to take a run at a Big 12 title next season. He'll also likely be on a lot of watch lists next season so he could possibly significantly bump his NIL earnings for next season.
@jayballer67 LOL, I turn it on and I'm pissed at the refs again. Guy on UNLV ran out of bounds a full yard short of the 1st down and ref just waves the chain gang forward signaling 1st down.
Lots media outlets called them out not only the telecast but the officiating. I still stand by my comment that both were a disgrace to CFB.
I think Devin is coming back to break records and experience more KU's new era. Kinda like Kenny
Did I miss that contested catch?
It wasn't close! This call pissed me off so bad! It's Jared freaking Casey! He's a hero, Mr Applebees! He beat Texas! Big deal!
Itās hard not to be super excited for next seasons offense even with coach K leaving. A great core of RBs and receivers to go with JD 6. Keeping him healthy and beefing up a little up front will be the keys.
@kjayhawks said in Guaranteed Rate Bowl News:
Itās hard not to be super excited for next seasons offense even with coach K leaving. A great core of RBs and receivers to go with JD 6. Keeping him healthy and beefing up a little up front will be the keys.
Logan is a goot start on our O-Line, his 1st start last night - -think he took Puni's spot - -he is one BIG BOY
@wissox said in Guaranteed Rate Bowl News:
@jayballer67 LOL, I turn it on and I'm pissed at the refs again. Guy on UNLV ran out of bounds a full yard short of the 1st down and ref just waves the chain gang forward signaling 1st down.
I just wanted to see all the flags again lol, actually listened to ESPN people more tonight, last night I listed to Hanni & Lawrence- --3/4 of that game even the female play by play I actually didn't think SHE was to bad - - the guy ,ummm not so much
@jayballer67 both were bad, for sure.
@approxinfinity said in Guaranteed Rate Bowl News:
@jayballer67 both were bad, for sure.
ya, I thought maybe 2nd time would be different lol
Watching OSU bowl game, what a difference between their game and ours.
Anyone hearing anything definitive about Cobee Bryant staying, transferring or going pro? He was to announce when his YouTube page hit 3,500 and itās now 4,000+. Still cricketsā¦
@Gorilla72 He said today he would announce his decision on Jan 1. I would bet he is coming back.
Just noticing all the game info they put on the screen during pop tart bowl. All penalties, who and what, plus players stats. So different than the D team we got. We were on espn. š„“
Im just glad we werent in the Dukes Mayo bowl. Thats just gross. Looks like they gave the WV coach the shirt he wore to get mayo dumped on him?
@approxinfinity I wouldn't do it!
Jason is invited to the hula bowl! I'll figure it out and fix it, but super cool and he deserves it!
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Very well deserved young man - - way to go- -what a Jay Hawk always be remembered
If he can get a good NFL QB coach who can teach him how to read defenses better, he can have a solid NFL career.
He has elite speed and a very strong arm.
I recently read that he is #2 in KU ranking only behind Todd Reese on number of TDs thrown. That's an extraordinary achievement considering he was a backup.
I got to be honest after watching the some of the other bowls yesterday including the Pop Tarts Bowl. Iām still salty about how egregious the coverage and commentary was for our game. You wouldāve thought it wasnāt even a ESPN primetime game.
@kjayhawks Hey - they have to put the scrub team somewhere - may as well be in the middle of the desert with two teams that historically nobody gives a crap about.
@nuleafjhawk itās shouldāve been WV and UNC then lol
@AsadZ said in Guaranteed Rate Bowl News:
If he can get a good NFL QB coach who can teach him how to read defenses better, he can have a solid NFL career.
He has elite speed and a very strong arm.
I recently read that he is #2 in KU ranking only behind Todd Reese on number of TDs thrown. That's an extraordinary achievement considering he was a backup.
Bean is not an NFL caliber QB. His decision making just isn't good enough and that's not something a QB coach will be able to fix well enough to get Bean in the league.
@Texas-Hawk-10 he is invited to the aloha bowl to play w/top players in front of scouts!
@kjayhawks said in Guaranteed Rate Bowl News:
@AsadZ he finishes his career #7 in all time passing yards and 2nd in passing touchdowns (huge gap from Ressing to everyone else) so heās gonna be in the record books here for a while. Believe he is also is tied with Ressing with 6 passing touchdowns in a game.
KU has some players that can either break or set new records or move very high up on some all time lists.
Jalon Daniels if he stays healthy next season, big if, could end up #2 in passing yards. He's currently 9th at just under 4,300 yards and needs a little of 2,100 yards to move into second place in career passing yards. That would also out him somewhere in the top 10 for single season passing yards. Daniels needs 8 TD passes to move into 2nd on that list ahead of Bean.
Luke Grimm and Lawrence Arnold should move into 4th and 5th on KU's all time receptions list. Grimm has 126 and Arnold has 121. Mark Simmons currently sits 4th at 155 so it seems likely that both Grimm and Arnold could get 30 and 35 receptions respectively to each pass Simmons.
Receiving yards is going to be a fun one to watch where Arnold and Grimm end up. Depending on next season, they could end up 2nd and 3rd all time. Arnold is 723 yards behind Steven Sims for 2nd and Grimm is 800 yards behind Sims. Doubt Grimm gets there based on career production, but Arnold should have a shot to pass Sims based on the last 2 years.
Grimm and Arnold could also end up 2nd and 3rd in TD receptions as well. Sims is currently second at 19 so Grimm only needs 3 to pass Sims which seems likely and Arnold needs 7 which is less likely, but still possible.
The player that could sit atop the KU record books after next season is Devin Neal. June Henley currently sits atop the rushing list with 3,841 yards. Neal is currently 4th all time at 3,077 rushing yards. If he stays healthy, it seems likely Neal breaks that record. Neal will also likely break Henley's career rushing TD recod as well. Henley had 41, Neal is currently 3rd all time at 33 TD's.
@Crimsonorblue22 said in Guaranteed Rate Bowl News:
@Texas-Hawk-10 he is invited to the aloha bowl to play w/top players in front of scouts!
It's a lower level all star game that's notnthe caliber of the Senior Bowl which is the one that will produce the most NFL talent. This one is going to be more for lower level pro leagues like the CFL, XFL/USFL. Bean very well could end up in one of those leagues, I just don't believe he has the decision making of an NFL caliber QB.
@Texas-Hawk-10 @Crimsonorblue22 I think Bean will get invited to an NFL camp at this point. I donāt think heāll be a starter or major player but his world class speed and deep ball accuracy are great.
We shall see
@Texas-Hawk-10 I hope Daniels does stay healthy. But after missing basically the past two seasons, can we reasonably expect him to play a full season next year?
My belief is that Bean's decision making is fixable with coaching.
With elite speed and strong arm, I am confident that he will be invited to a camp where he can impress coaches.
@nuleafjhawk Yeah, I could tell.
@nuleafjhawk thatās like I said earlier, Iād rather have KUs receivers than KCs and thatās by a wide margin
Iāve heard hot takes but thatās nuclear fusion in the core of the sun
Around 15 million degrees
I doubt Bean's receivers would be that good facing NFL starting secondaries.
KUās Bean set a bowl record for the Big 12 - most touchdowns thrown in a bowl game at 6. Not OU with their high flying offense under Riley or Stoops. Not Texas and the million bowl games theyāve been too. Not the in state football āpowerhouseā ksu. K freakinā U has the record for passing touchdowns in a bowl game in the Big12.
Todd Reesing was a better QB than Bean and he didnāt sniff the NFL. However Todd Heaps was much worse than both and had a cup of coffee in the league based on his HS ranking. If someone likes Bean they may take a flyer on him, but my team only has 6 draft picks this year and they had better not waste one on a backup quarterback!
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Reesing didn't get a sniff because NFL teams do not want small QBs. He was listed at 5'11" but I remember he was likely a couple inches shorter.
According to The Ringer, "Since the 1970 AFL-NFL merger, 172 quarterbacks have started at least 50 gamesāonly 11 of them were 6-foot or shorter. Among those players are Kyler Murray, Michael Vick, Russell Wilson, and Drew Brees."
He was probably also hurt by KU losing the last 6 games of the 2009 season, and having 7 interceptions in those games.
Bean's best chance at making the NFL is probably changing positions to WR and utilizing his size and speed in that manner. Far too often, he forces passes into double and triple coverage resulting in bad interceptions.
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Guaranteed Rate Bowl News:
Bean's best chance at making the NFL is probably changing positions to WR and utilizing his size and speed in that manner. Far too often, he forces passes into double and triple coverage resulting in bad interceptions.
that might work out well if he could switch positions and try at WR like you said, if he could adapt - -his speed would be major bonus to some team
I think someone will give Bean a camp invite just to see what they can do with him. Those physical tools are elite. I mean Tim freaking Boyle stuck around for a few years and was way, way, way worse than Bean in college
@FarmerJayhawk yep size, speed and arm strength are god given. Look no further than Josh Freeman of KSU dude was total trash in college but had the 3 listed items and got several chances because of it.
Ku finishes the season ranked #23 in the AP poll
Time to start getting mad about the 'way too early top 25's' for next year. Saw one at ESPN. We're 23. I'm a little miffed! Imagine being miffed at a writer even ranking us at all when you think about where we've come from!
On The Athletic, Chris Vannini's final '23-'24 season ranking has us #18. I won't say who is at #17 to keep a couple of our people living in Sunflower disputed territory from stroking out.....