Rebound game. We need this one.

This will be a very physical game. Cinn loves to mix it up, Think we will be able to get a better feel for Johnny tonight, I think they will try to muscle him, back him down get him in foul troble. We better hit the boards, we can not lose a home game for sure. time to tighten the Jocks

This is for sure a keep those $3 drafts coming all night game

Some things to watch. Cincy gets about 6 more offensive rebounds than the Jays and will we continue to limit our turnovers and attempt more treys. We are middle of the road as a team in most conference stats and we need to shake things up by having Juan score more and make teams pay for packing the paint. Will KJ stay focused all game and will Furphy, Juan and Emarko let it fly every time they are open?

KU hasn't played Cincinnati in 28 years

Here's my contribution:

I'm going to watch The Rookie and Building Off The Grid. Then probably Most Terrifying Places In America.

My blood pressure will thank me and I won't have to put any money in the swear jar.

Y'all enjoy the game!

Better bring the lunch pail cause Cinn pounds the glass. - - Plus guess what I'm sure we get to listen to good ol Frannie tonight nad listen to his BS, you know how much he like KU. -Think I'll listen to Hanni & Gurley- - yippee

@nuleafjhawk you serious?

No Fran, thankfully

Bilas mentioned Duke yet?

What it do Jayhawk bucketeer nation??!! Lets get this win and welcome the barecats to the Big 12 AllenFieldHouse style.

@approxinfinity Yes. I cannot stomach this team losing to UCF and West Virginia. I don't want to waste two hours of my life watching Cincinnati spank us

LFG

ROCKCHALK

@nuleafjhawk If Cincy spanks us I'll personally mail you all gift certificates to your favorite Lawrence dining establishments and drive there all the way from Chicago to serve you the meals and call you jayhawks majesty as I'm doing so.

I hope DePaul doesn't lure Bill Self away to replace their fired coach.

Furphy is so aggressive early, wonder if he runs out of gas

They got a kid named precocious? Wow

Furph is a revelation

How about those #Chiefs 🙌

His parents are there!!!!

And a kid named Fandango? Does he sell movie tickets? I'm becoming a Fandango of Phurphy or however you spell his Aussie name.

@wissox didn’t Baylor used to as well I think of a boy named sue lol

We've seen this start before.

Furphy coming thru early again

@kjayhawks Reminds me of a Johnny Cash song.

@BeddieKU23 said in KU vs Cincinnati game chat:

We've seen this start before.

Furphy coming thru early again

5 pts and our only 2 RBs...

Another strong start, why can't we keep this intensity - - ROCK CHALK

Furph alert

Dreaming about another year of Dickinson and Furphy

@wissox

Bandaogo. Ku cruited him a little bit but was worried about 2nd transfer rule at time

Im dreaming of Furphy showcasing what he can do across 6 games in March.

@approxinfinity

Gift and a curse potentially

Joel with 59 vs Spurs

Drove over a razor blade on the way to work today. Gave me a flat tire in about 30 seconds, enough time to get off the main road without a shoulder that I was driving on. It's been that kind of day! @BeddieKU23 Thanks, I figured I was mishearing it, but it's kind of fun to use my imagination

Embiid has 61 and counting goodness

@wissox

We can go with nicknames

@RockChalkinTexas the Jayhawks could beat the Spurs.

Finally, a Jayhawk who will rebound when Hunter shoots a 3: Johnny.

Juan keep it up.

Kev kind of carried it on that drive, but no worries, refs never call that anymore.

Pretty

Furph is a savant, he just gets it.

Big time ovation

Furphy's folks look just like him!

Much better effort so far

Kev never passes to Furph

Bilas made a joke> Wow

I wonder if Les Nessman is there reporting for WKRP?

That's the 2nd great steal by Demarko in the last two games

Kevin getting frustrated, been bodied a few times here

Jeez is it that hard to call fouls in favor of kev

Maybe the honchos at ESPN kept fran from calling our games. One can hope

Glad I'm getting my eyes checked tomorrow, cause sure looks like Kevin is getting mugged

Maybe Fran said Mccullah 50 times in quick succession when he heard he was calling our game, thinking it was a done deal.

Take it out on the rim Kevin!

Holy Crap 3 minutes to go in the game and Jo . Jo has 66 points for Philly tonight

I'm telling you fran caught crap for calling that fragrant 1 foul just a regular foul and a travel on Hunter. Or maybe a non foul. Forgot. He heard it from KU fans!

He wasn't even doing our game

Joel with 70

Careless turnovers

@Crimsonorblue22 I tagged him in this bogus foul on Elmarko Saturday. I said where is the outrage, tie game without that laughable call.

There we go. Ride Hunt

Ooof
Furphy :)

@KirkIsMyHinrich 5 assists too!

This crowd is all over Furphy

@KirkIsMyHinrich said in KU vs Cincinnati game chat:

Joel with 70

70 pts, 18 RBs and even 5 assts...

@approxinfinity KU crowd is educated on basketball! Smart fans

Please no more kj jumpers

Never fails

@approxinfinity

I'm jealous

There you go Juan

Good move Juan.

Poor pass

Unbelievable

Dont get all Geometry on us Jay. Nerd.

Lol

Cincy turning up the heat.

@DCHawker said in KU vs Cincinnati game chat:

@KirkIsMyHinrich said in KU vs Cincinnati game chat:

Joel with 70

70 pts, 18 RBs and even 5 assts...

Holy crap

Towns of Minnesota has 44 at half. Most in first half in a whiles

Joels 70 point game ties him for 12th on the biggest scoring games in history. 85 guys have scored at least. 60 points, guess who has 31 of those games?

Juan is 2/3, 6pts. Right where he should be scoring.

@wissox Bill Walton, final answer

Looked at the rebounding list and Wilt and Bill Russell dominate, but none close to Wilt's 55 in one game.

Just throw it out of bounds like usual

My wife is funny “aint no boomering its not coming back to you!” Lol

This is pathetic. Fire the coach.

Can't do it and he does it anyway

Getting killed on the glass...

Scrappy Dajuan

I think I'll go back to researching Wilt stats.

@BeddieKU23 He's at 53 now still in 3rd quarter.

Mccullar is having a forced shots game

Wilt is the goat period

So much for that early 10 point lead...

@approxinfinity

Frustrated with being fouled every time he touches it without calls

We need to get some stops and get to halftime, recharge. Hope we dont come out flat.

Bearcats have a 14-7 RB advantage - 5-1 on the offensive glass...

Surprised Self has left him in

MJ is the goat, but Wilt might be my #2

Furphustle

Bill Self is my GOAT

Juan is so lucky

Air ball

Now DuJuan's my GOAT, just don't tell that one guy.

We just can't have comfortable games

@jayballer67 said in KU vs Cincinnati game chat:

We just can't have comfortable games

One week ago, at OSU, almost boring comfortable.

Juando always makes up for his turnovers

we got confused in transition d both last 2 possessions, good time for tv timeout

@wissox said in KU vs Cincinnati game chat:

Now DuJuan's my GOAT, just don't tell that one guy.

you mean ummmmm - -" THAT GUY "

Warner up to 67th nationally and probably a 96 overall rating. Really can't wait to watch some of these dudes we have coming play defense

I feel like we’re going to blow this open and win by 20

@wissox I'm looking forward to meeting you! And eating free food!

@DanR i feel like we are spent already and their athleticism and depth is going to overwhelm us.

Quick turnaround for the guys.

@nuleafjhawk Yes indeed! I'd love to meet all of my fellow bucketeers, seriously!

Furf3ee

@wissox Agreed!

@nuleafjhawk I generally consider that place with the big M outside to be fine dining just so you know.

It seems the opponent gains ground when somebody tries to play hero ball in search of points. McCullar comes to mind mostly. He’s certainly a great player but sometimes not within the system. Or am I looking at it wrong?

Mari didn't help himself there

Red sea parting defense on that drive.

@wissox free is free

This team is a mess

Lucky they can’t hit free throws

Stupid ESPN, why didn't they put this on ESPN+? I don't want to watch this crap!

It is truly a mess right now. Need someone other than Furphy hitting 3s

Kev is nonexistent

Guys can't shoot. Kev is having an awful one

It's not that I'm particularly disgusted with the Jayhawk team, it's just that all the other teams in the country no longer have any fear/respect for the jerseys that say KANSAS.

We're just another team.

Kev just building that brick home tonight

Pass it kev

Good d

21-11 beat down on the boards...Furph has more than half of our RBs...

This team with the lead is terrible

Every stat KJ has a 2. 2 points, shots, fouls, assists, rbs, TO's,

Offensive rebounds losing 7-1.

@DCHawker said in KU vs Cincinnati game chat:

21-11 beat down on the boards...Furph has more than half of our RBs...

Hunter with 2, KJ with 2, Bench with 1, Harris and McCullar with 0

Johnny with 6.

There's no reason we shouldn't be able to rebound. We have a 7-footer and a guy who ignores Newton's laws.

I have to agree with Jwill and said similar things last season. We just don’t have the athleticism as normal Kansas teams. Any guard in the big 12 can get to paint with ease, even switching we can’t keep guys in front of us.

@kjayhawks said in KU vs Cincinnati game chat:

I have to agree with Jwill and said similar things last season. We just don’t have the athleticism as normal Kansas teams. Any guard in the big 12 can get to paint with ease, even switching we can’t keep guys in front of us.

Elmarko being slow out of the gate and Morris being a horrible person doomed us there

14 70 point games in NBA history 7 of the 14 are Jayhawks. No one school has more than 1

Lack of a consistent bench has been a problem for us many years

@kjayhawks I love factoids like that!

If we are going to win, Dajuan has to focus 2nd half. KJ needs to be a presence and the ball needs to find open shooters. Wish Timberlake could be a zone buster in a game like this.

@kjayhawks No other school had Wilt.

Cincinnati's three league losses have come by a total of seven points

This team just struggles

Stop turning the ball over, rebound at least even this half and find a way to get Kev from finishing his brick house. Wake up!

If we rebound the ball we win by 15

Played great for 10 minutes and played average for 10. Rebound, move the ball on O and play some D and this will be good

Need KJ to be a factor too

Sigh. We’re too easy to guard and asking guys to do too much. Kev can’t be option 1A on offense, play lockdown D, and rebound for 35 minutes a night.

@kjayhawks Wilt had 31 of the top rebounding games in history. Bill Russell had 24, the rest of the chart has 4 names on it with 1 top game each. In other words Wilt had more than half of the top rebounding games in league history, a range of 55 down to 37 games.

Kev just wont pass the ball. He's not option 1ABC

Right on cue. Turnover

Bloody Knee Kev?

Sloppy

Dajuan seems mentally gased

Juan needs to be on the bench head up a$$

I just don't get it

Nice furph

@wissox if you REALLY want a good Wilt stat - 50 point games - Wilt had 118. Next closest is MJ at 31.

All you can do is shake your head

HERES JOHNNY

Nice Kev

@BeddieKU23
And Curse

@nuleafjhawk No I don't want a REALLY good one.

@wissox I have more.....

Big time play

Give it another month and Furphy maybe the best player on this team

That's a bad shot

Johnny

Feed The Furph

There’s the Juan we know and love

Alright Juan redemption play #1

From crowd reaction to the replay that was a bad call. We don't get to see it however.

So a ref on the other side of the court can call a foul?

I honestly think we are getting a pretty good whistle here

Thank God for Johnny

Kevin getting mugged and Cincy getting away with it.

Surprised Jason Kelce isn't there😀

Moving the ball. Our d is not going to improve tonight. Move the ball on O and rebound.

Watch they call this on the floor instead of shots

@RockChalkinTexas without his shirt lmao

@kjayhawks
❤ they have true love for each other and for the game!

Cincinnati’s version of Netflix and chill is fandango and jizzum. Crazy names on that team.

We need to get KJ A dunk. He's been MIA for too long. Time for take off

@BeddieKU23 said in KU vs Cincinnati game chat:

Watch they call this on the floor instead of shots

they did - - on the floor

@BeddieKU23 need to get Hunter in the high post attack the middle like we did early

Yeah that's a bad call then

Not a single guy to pick up the ball

They are just living on the offensive glass gotta have 15 second chance points

McCullar is 3-11 shooting. Need to get him some easier looks.

@BeddieKU23 1st rule of defense, stop the ball

@dylans

He's missed most of the easy ones

KEV

Finally

Better!

Furphy is electric.

Furphy is playing harder than anyone else in white by a very very wide margin

There we go. Furphy our hero

Furphy providing all the energy with Mum and Pa in the stands

Holy crap Johnny Scores - - - -Johnny rebounds - - is there ANYBODY ELSE other then Johnny playing for KU

Scot Pollard has a 16 year old son named Ozzy. Bet he's a baller.

Furphy 1 board away from a double/double

Furph f’s up a bit on D but that dude is everywhere

Furphy 1 rebound away from a double double

Cincinnati' starters only have 17 points. They shouldn't be in this one

Furphy only 8 steals or 10 assists from a triple double.

@BeddieKU23 we are approximately 4 points better than everyone even if they suck 😂

Big shot by Kev (I’ve been complaining about him more than I should lol)

@wissox he might just do it

Its crazy how quick he is for his height. Just not used to it. He feels more dynamic than any freshman his size i can remember at Kansas.

Adams used to be automatic with that in the lane jumper.

One on one D is weirdly bad

There's the furf dub dub

I honestly can’t believe these guys aren’t seeing Furphy hustle his ass off and think darn maybe I should do the same

Damn great pass kev!

We setting up a go fund me to keep furphy's parents here until about april

That furph3 would have brought down the house

@approxinfinity Wiggins?

Place would have gone nuts if he made that

@approxinfinity

Had just too much time to think there. Dang

Bad switch by Furph… upside is phenomenal

Furph with a real offseason will be a PROBLEM

@FarmerJayhawk yeah i revised it bc i dont mean raw athleticism. I mean ability to exploit his athleticism within the flow. Wiggins was not very dynamic. Felt like he did not score in a variety of ways.

Rarely forced his will on the game.

I dont think it was just protecting the goods. Furph knows how to bend the game to his will.

Furph is just like that kid everyone grew up with who was fun and good and the first pick but 10 times better than that

KJ caught the Furph effort bug uh oh

@approxinfinity plus, to me, nearly every game Wigs seemed to not give it his all, like he was saving himself for the NBA.

@StLJhawk He hasn't become the bonafide superstar that people projected him for I think.

@RockChalkinTexas said in KU vs Cincinnati game chat:

Scot Pollard has a 16 year old son named Ozzy. Bet he's a baller.

Did he marry his college gf? She was almost 5ft tall. Pollard was such a personality.

We are on the low end on the boards this season.

@StLJhawk yes but Wiggs was the oldest first time all star in nba last year. He had a lot of growth to his game yet to go.

I like the fan in Bilas. "parker braun's got to get that ball". You can hear a bunch of guys/gals in the stands saying the same thing.

@dylans Dawn is her name and she is tiny

This team needs a Scott Pollard

My God refs

They are badass on defense.

@RockChalkinTexas Haven’t seen them since the 90s, was at KU when he was there for a year.

When you’re a dynasty the announcers talk about your weaknesses.

@wissox said in KU vs Cincinnati game chat:

This team needs a Scott Pollard

I was thinking DeVonte Graham. A second ball handler that can shoot and defend at a high level.

Wish we could get a little more for KJ. Get him a
few thunder dunks.

Elmarko go for the damn ball.

@dylans Yeah him too, I just mentioned Scott since people were talking about him!

@BeddieKU23 said in KU vs Cincinnati game chat:

Elmarko go for the damn ball.

He plays like he's scared of the ball

@approxinfinity when he rebounds and brings the ball up the whole floor, he usually scores

Pollard is on the heart transplant waitlist … everyone knew that right?

@DanR

Very sad

@approxinfinity said in KU vs Cincinnati game chat:

Wish we could get a little more for KJ. Get him a
few thunder dunks.

Never run much for him. He is a great off script player within the flow of the game.

@DanR week ago

@DanR No, didn't hear that. That's scary stuff.

They was talking about Scott, is he sick ? - - they were saying sending prayers for Scott, and something about his heart. - Hanni and Gurley were talking about him and how he was always one of their favorites- - hope he is ok

This will be a hard game to save.

Who's Taylor Quick or whatever they said?

Pollard is a beast,.. gonna take a big heart but 💪

Scott is one of the biggest personalities, best players to grace that court…and that’s saying a lot! He also was pretty cool in person.

Oh Juan

My Juan that’s 2 buddy

KJ hustlin

Come on juan

2 time Juan.

Listen to the crowd! in my best Harry Caray voice!

Crowd is tuned up!!!

Crowd almost sounds fake loud

KJ follow that

@RockChalkinTexas fb guy

Remember when we used to yell "Free the three!!?

I feel the crowd could give more effort some nights. 😂

My man, KJ

Parker is so lost

Feel like Braun has played a ton but not done anything

Is the Cinci guy named precocious or am I nuts

Braun plays like he has no hands

Nice when their big cant shoot 3s and Hunter can stay in lane

Kev?

Yikes McCullah. I stand corrected. Maybe stick to drives.

Kev man

@rcjhdraft maybe the best description of him I’ve heard

Kevin gonna take 25 shots to get 20 points

Kev is OFF

Big turn over

RussRob Was So Fun To Watch

I love Kj, DaJuan too, and approxinfinity and jaybate and bill self and pollard and especially my wife and kids and grandkid, oh and hunter even though I used to hate him and dylands and dan and beddie and kjay and jaybawler and of course crimsonoreblue and kubballin10 and, well everyone, this is a fun part of the winter for me every year and it sucks when it comes crashing to an end unless it's watching them on top of a ladder cutting net in some big dome with confetti falling, and danny and mario and remy and of course the GOAT Wilt.

Furphy 6-7 from the field.

If we can hold on -pull this off, we will take it. -Not a thing of Beauty, but it would be a win,can't lose games on your home floor. -- Not sure what's wrong with Juan, just really bad game, shots are off, turning the ball over- - not sure what going on. Time to close this out

Kev n Juan 7-25 from the field.

oh yeah furphy and RCinTexas and zabudda (what does that mean anyway?) and st louis jayhawk and dynomite and hide yo kids.....And pizza shuttle.

Big ass bucket Kev

@BeddieKU23 If that's baseball they're batting .280, not too bad.

Nice play kev. Bad call

@BeddieKU23 Juan is shooting 25% from 2 since conference play started

@wissox 🫶😍❤️💙🌾 you too

@kjayhawks Well we should just play him in the big dance then!

17 and 10 for Furphy. Didn’t take long to get his first double double as a starter!

Good timeout. Guys are gassed

Either a bucket or throws. Gotta have it

First shot defense has been solid tonight

20-10!

Way to jinx us bilas

That’ll do!

@Crimsonorblue22 said in KU vs Cincinnati game chat:

@wissox 🫶😍❤️💙🌾 you too

And.., Thanks again to @approxinfinity for keeping this community alive

Furphy saved our asses tonight folks

I wish Hunter would dunk the ball!

I’m pretty ticked at Juan and hunter tonight, not playing like veterans

Cinci has some athletes

Johny these freethrows are furphree

Daggers.

Weak guy was way outta control

ZERO bench points

I hate the ends of games like this except we're winning.

Take the L

LOL

Gotta get Hunter healthy.

Kid yelling take your L and go home is hilarious

A wins a win but some don't feel as good as others do. This is one of those that doesn't feel as good.

Billas trying to figure out how ku could win

Last 22 seconds have taken 16 minutes!!

Elmarko our top FT shooter

We got 2 bench points!

I'll take it. Rest up for clones!

@wissox I have agree with @cragarhawk assessment we don’t look good even in victory. On to Saturday can we pick up a road win against a team that has a conference win? I honestly don’t care about conference titles anymore. Just go undefeated at home and sweep the Mildcats.

Nobody shuts out the Kansas bench

@rcjhdraft said in KU vs Cincinnati game chat:

Nobody shuts out the Kansas bench

The KU Managers would beat the bench🤦‍♀️

When Hunter gets in foul trouble it's takes a Furphy like player to pull it out. Thanks Mom, who he looks like.

@RockChalkinTexas out 🙋‍♀️

Good guys win yet again.

Bill Self saying a few of the new teams have played us hard - Syracuse and ucf were the two teams he mentioned. Maybe I heard it wrong, but it seemed weird.

@RockChalkinTexas dawn is her name but she's tall, second wife.

@dylans

You heard it right. One of those signs I said as a senior citizen when I recognized retirement coming.

@drgnslayr Yeah it’s uncharacteristic. Crap, I had hoped I misheard. His memory is usually amazing.

The Halftime report mentioned how non-athletic KU is this year. I disagree. Sure, we've had more athletic teams... but this team just isn't hustling.

Furph the only guy to crash the boards. He still has his high school body, but he can do it.

I'm done being nice. I'm calling out the guys who aren't cutting it!

Starting with Hunter. 7'2" and only 6 rebounds. Seriously? Try moving your arse closer to the goal, also on offense, maybe score a few points.

KJ... come on, man! 3 rebounds in 38 minutes! Close your eyes next time and the ball will find you at least 5 times in 38 minutes!

Juan... 5 TOs... the worst at the end in the back court that kept Cincy in the game. Where is your head, dude?

Kevin... another great grinder game for you! The team is on your back now! Hope you can keep holding up the weight, brother! A+

Furph... what is he, 18? Body of a boy, but heart of a man... a big man! He's out there doing what our veteran guys aren't doing! A+

Come on, guys! Man the f up!

@dylans

He's a man with heart disease. Memory loss is one of the symptoms of heart disease...

@drgnslayr

Hunter and Kev are playing through knee/leg injuries. Neither is 100%, Hunter might be like 70% based on how he moved last night.

Gotta find a way to start winning those 50/50 balls which we are not doing consistently.

Would be really nice if Zuby or Udeh would’ve stuck around for depth, Parker is too small. When Parker is the 5 it doesn’t look like anyone is over 6’6” on the court. (No way Furphy is 6’9”).

@dylans I thought last night that furphy looked taller than Braun. Think they both maybe closer to 6’7

@BeddieKU23 said in KU vs Cincinnati game chat:

Rebound game. We need this one.

Funny that you call it a rebound game. Rebounding was the main issue vs. WVU. KU got outrebounded by a lot. Again. Still, Furphy ends up with a career high 11 boards.

KJ is such a dreadful rebounder given his role

@drgnslayr said in KU vs Cincinnati game chat:

The Halftime report mentioned how non-athletic KU is this year. I disagree. Sure, we've had more athletic teams... but this team just isn't hustling.

Furph the only guy to crash the boards. He still has his high school body, but he can do it.

I'm done being nice. I'm calling out the guys who aren't cutting it!

Starting with Hunter. 7'2" and only 6 rebounds. Seriously? Try moving your arse closer to the goal, also on offense, maybe score a few points.

KJ... come on, man! 3 rebounds in 38 minutes! Close your eyes next time and the ball will find you at least 5 times in 38 minutes!

Juan... 5 TOs... the worst at the end in the back court that kept Cincy in the game. Where is your head, dude?

Kevin... another great grinder game for you! The team is on your back now! Hope you can keep holding up the weight, brother! A+

Furph... what is he, 18? Body of a boy, but heart of a man... a big man! He's out there doing what our veteran guys aren't doing! A+

Come on, guys! Man the f up!

I think this is on target. I didn't watch the whole game but seemed to me when the whole team would play with energy and effort, we'd get out to a bit of a lead, then they either got tired or lost focus and would let them back in. You can literally tell every possession on D whether it will be a good one or a bad one based on how hard everyone tries on the first ball screen.

This is the most wildly inconsistent team I can remember. Game to game, even possession to possession. You just NEVER know what you are going to get.

@kjayhawks said in KU vs Cincinnati game chat:

@wissox I have agree with @cragarhawk assessment we don’t look good even in victory. On to Saturday can we pick up a road win against a team that has a conference win? I honestly don’t care about conference titles anymore. Just go undefeated at home and sweep the Mildcats.

I'm so scared for the KSU games because you know they will at least bring energy and it doesn't seem like we can consistently count on that from our hawks this year.

@rcjhdraft

Braun is as well given that's like one of his main jobs when in the game.

@benshawks08 for sure, not a positive outlook right now. Furphy is gonna need someone else to get after the ball like he has been. I love to be a fly on the wall in the film room today hopefully some guys get called out for their lack of effort and energy. The old saying goes “Hard work beats talent, when talent doesn’t work hard”. This team doesn’t have the talent to go out and just go thru the motions. I think that’s pretty evident at this point in time.

I haven't gone back and read all 337 posts, but saw mention on twitter of a little back and forth between Timberlake and Self. Anyone catch when that happened or what it was about?

@BeddieKU23 Yeah I just singled out KJ because he plays far more than Braun does

KU needs to make sure Johnny's parents are at all the rest of KU games. Please find them a room at McCarthy. Johnny played with more energy than past games. We need his energy in every game the rest of the year. The rest of the team? I don't have anything positive to say, so I just won't say anything. It's very difficult to watch this team no matter who they are playing.

@benshawks08

News to me but not a good sign from Nick if true

@rcjhdraft said in KU vs Cincinnati game chat:

@BeddieKU23 Yeah I just singled out KJ because he plays far more than Braun does

He just seems to pick and choose when to rebound instead of it just being instinct. He was showing strides of being consistent as of a couple games ago but that seems to have passed again. Enigma when it comes to this

@BeddieKU23 I think there's a point where Self actually likes it if a guy talks back to him but I guarantee Nick isn't at that point.

@BeddieKU23 KJ's body language has not been good the last couple of games. He's either exploding off the floor for a dunk or kind of just standing around. When he's engaged and leaning on his athleticism, he is a legit player, but more and more I see him coming out of that stance and standing straight up and down or looking tired. Same goes for Juan honestly. These guys all seem TIRED. But they have the same schedule as every other team...

@benshawks08 more minutes. I thought for sure we would lose the energy war 2nd half and lose the ballgame. We would have if Furphy hadnt gone nuclear.

@BeddieKU23 said in KU vs Cincinnati game chat:

@rcjhdraft said in KU vs Cincinnati game chat:

@BeddieKU23 Yeah I just singled out KJ because he plays far more than Braun does

He just seems to pick and choose when to rebound instead of it just being instinct. He was showing strides of being consistent as of a couple games ago but that seems to have passed again. Enigma when it comes to this

IMO at the level of athlete he is he should be crashing the boards with reckless abandon. It's what will keep him on the floor if he ever tries to go into the pros since he'll never be able to space the floor. I agree with you that it's baffling that he doesn't do it.

@rcjhdraft he made a midrange jumper from left wing yesterday. Decent form and everything (not a shot put). It shocked me. Maybe he is working on that midrange game.

@benshawks08

Yeah, KJ is probably playing too many minutes overall. It's not the minutes per say, he's in incredible shape but it's the toll defensively that's getting to him. Self is making guys switch 1-4 and you see how many times a game KJ is guarding a 6'1 guard at the end of the shot clock and it's got to wear a dude out. We forget he's 6'7, 235 and not some string-bean guard.

@approxinfinity said in KU vs Cincinnati game chat:

@rcjhdraft he made a midrange jumper from left wing yesterday. Decent form and everything (not a shot put). It shocked me. Maybe he is working on that midrange game.

Maybe we let KJ suit up for the other team some game this season. If a guy like him is playing against KU he can go 4-6 from three and really get confidence in that jumper.

Self is the master at knowing how to rest these guys outside of games. He lightens their practices so they aren't adding wear on non-game days.

I'm not buying into the tired excuse. There are other players in this league putting in big minutes. And we aren't out there going 110% during games.

I usually cut our guys a lot of slack. But I'm not buying it here. If it's true, we might as well forfeit March now, save the humiliation!

Kevin is out there hustling his butt off... why can't the others?

This is turning out to be a very soft team!

Self did say Syracuse

@drgnslayr

Are they just hitting the usual January lull before the level of play picks up again? Or is this what they are at this point? I'm not buying the latter this early, Self has always found a way to push the right buttons. Hard to doubt him

@drgnslayr You know they are hearing that four letter word over and over and over again right now. S - O - F - T !!!!!!!!!!

My problem with them hitting the normal January hull right now is the schedule. We have not hit the meat of our schedule yet and have 1 just 1 win vs the top 65% of the conference. 10 of our last 12 games are either against ranked teams and/or on the road. If we went thru a few game slide in that it wouldn’t shock me at all. I’m just hoping it’s only a few games honestly. Idk I think this team has already not only lost this conference but lost a 1 seed with the losses already suffered. I hope to be wrong but they need to prove a lot of stuff here in the next 6 weeks.

@Crimsonorblue22 said in KU vs Cincinnati game chat:

Self did say Syracuse

It bothers me more than it should. I just don’t’t want to accept that Bill Self is mortal and there will be a post Bill Self period soon.

Might be the year we suffer the fate that all the other major high seeds have experienced more than once since we last lost a first round game. We've had some disappointing 2nd round losses, but 15-16 years in a row of avoiding first round upsets. Not saying it will happen but we just might be as vulnerable as possible right now for it to happen.

@wissox nah.

@BeddieKU23

I'm hopeful they are just hitting that winter lull... and now it's time for the guys to have a meeting and talk toughness. Self has usually found a way to pull them out of it. I was encouraged to see Self turning purple at the end of the Cincy game.

This is where the team steps up and takes some pride. Someone or several show leadership. And they decide team identity... which should always work out to be a tough defensive team.

Outside of a few offensive tweaks... getting Hunter to post lower... getting a few more drives and aggressive play out of Juan... our offense won't change dramatically. Where the change needs to happen is defense. We should be scoring at least 10 more points a game off our defense. And it should make the entire game go easier and flow smoother.

I know these guys have it in them. They stepped up on UCONN. If they can decide their identity is gritty defense, we will be back to being the team that beat UCONN and can have the potential for a real run in March.

I'm a little confused about the Terrence Shannon case and the Arterio Morris case. Maybe @mayjay can chime in with his experience. Both get charged with a sex crime, one gets kicked off the team and apparently is awaiting trial. The other seeks a court injunction and is reinstated to the team. We obviously could have been a better team with Arterio but I could care less because of the seriousness of the charge. Could he have asked for an injunction too? Seemingly similar cases, but one kid is back to playing at an all american level and the other isn't even playing.

@wissox I know nothing of the particulars but I would think hanging over everything is that Arterio already f'ed up his second chance so there wasn't much chance of him being able to prove he could be trusted. The IL injunction might have been issued due to whether U of I followed its procedures, questionable strength of prosecutor's case (including uncooperative witnesses), whether the cops/prosecutors failed to share evidence with the staff trying to suspend, and maybe a stronger agreement to monitor him.

I can't imagine Self wanted Morris back and I doubt a judge would buy into overriding that discretion. Maybe U of I really was halfhearted about booting their guy.

All conjecture because I handled way too many horrible cases so I don't read too much about them any more!

We so miss a player like Arterio can play. But he was toxic! Glad he is gone!

@drgnslayr I know it sounds like I'm wishing we had an alleged criminal playing for us but I'm not, Just wondering if Arterio could have gotten the same.

Guys as frustrating it is , how mad we might get at the time , like our losses to UCF -WV - -heard this in the Kentucky, South Carolina game tonight - -just think , just might put things in perspective.

Top 10 teams this year have lost so far have lost Twenty Two times to unranked teams - - Twenty Two times ! ! - This is the most in Associated Press History, takes a little bit of the edge off these losses. - -Doesn't make things totally better but it's happening to other top 10 teams too.

Kentucky is getting beat by SEVENTEEN to South Carolina right now with like 2:20 left in the game. - -Announcer said and is right about this, he was asked what is making it so hard for top ten teams to win against these unranked teams - -His response was , when your a top ten team you have that target on your back and playing on the road. - -At least both of your losses to these teams were on the road.

@jayballer67

My thoughts on why so many good teams are getting smoked... and it's not just college basketball.

I believe it is the impact of smartphones. Everyone is glued to their phones 24/7. I see it with my own kids. Being on for hours every day makes it hard for people to STAY FOCUSED!

What are your thoughts on this?

I think it's much more to do with talent being down across college basketball. We've had a few weak HS classes in a row plus a lot of old guys sticking around. So that levels the playing field somewhat.

Transfer portal takes the backups to other schools so top teams have less margin for error. These are good players getting spread out to lesser teams and developing once they have a chance to play twice as much.

@mayjay its hard to argue that the portal is bad when we talk about more talented kids getting a chance and greater parity of play.

What the Johnny did in front of Mom and Dad was amazing. 23 and 10 is his first Furple Double. How about a Fripple Double of points, boards and hustle plays.

@drgnslayr said in KU vs Cincinnati game chat:

@jayballer67

My thoughts on why so many good teams are getting smoked... and it's not just college basketball.

I believe it is the impact of smartphones. Everyone is glued to their phones 24/7. I see it with my own kids. Being on for hours every day makes it hard for people to STAY FOCUSED!

What are your thoughts on this?

True I can see what you mean on it. Believe me even though I have no kids where they need to focus on sports but understand on phones. We used to have daughter with that problem, not so much now although still staying focused even now remains an issue, but she would used to come to visit us/well mainly mom but she would come see us and the whole time she was here she would be glued to her phone texting friends/guys - I asked her on multiple occasions did you come to see us OR did you come just to bury your face in that dam phone, I said hell if you wanna just sit thee and do nothing but text while w are trying to have a conversation with you - - -you could do that at home , very frustrating

Agreeing with the transfer portal comments.

But back to the phones. Several times now in this new year I've had people talking to me and they forget what they are talking about in the middle of a sentence about what they are talking about. lol

I'm old... so I have an excuse for losing my train of thought. What about these kids?

I wonder if some of our guys are out there playing in a game and then suddenly think about something not relating to the game... like a social media feed or text from a friend. Even a very brief distraction can cause a disastrous play on the court.

I know... I know... I have an obscure perspective... again! At least I didn't mention Mezzo ball in this post. Oh sh*t! Just did! lol

@drgnslayr Phones, sure. COVID year is big too. I think this is the last year of REALLY OLD guys staying around? Or is that next year? Must be next because Juan and Hunter can stay, right?

Another factor could also be COVID itself. Brain fog was a documented symptom and serious cases of Long COVID are still being studied as well. Wonder what the cognitive affects would be noticed if they are more mild and could be attributed to any number of factors.

@benshawks08

25 is the last of the old dudes that get the covid free yr. Hunter and Juan examples of that as you mentioned

@benshawks08 I feel like we will snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

@drgnslayr Mike Gundy had a rant a couple years back saying that kids nowadays don’t know the basics because they are playing video games and not outside. I tend to agree with him, when I was a kid we were always at the park playing football or basketball. I can’t tell you the last time I seen a kid at the park. I get it’s hard this time of year but I don’t see kids outside much these days.

@kjayhawks This is a global issue caused by social media.