Now that 2023 is over and teams are pondering about their roster and moves, with combine coming up, let's start discussion here.
There are several intriguing questions.
Where will Russell Wilson end up or will he retire.
Will Dak get a big contract extension,
Which team will move up to get their franchise QB.
Will Chiefs be able to keep Jones and Sneed.
With Bears locked in on Caleb Williams, I am curious about Justin Fields, where will he end up.
Most analysts are saying Atlanta is most likely destination.
Bears are dumb to let Fields go and roll back the rebuild again with a pretty solid core there now. But they're par for the course in this city of garbage teams run by garbage owners.
@AsadZ Atlanta and Pittsburg would be pretty good fits. Maybe Dallas they need to dump Dakās 60million cap hit. Jj about Dallas.
Chicago is a ways off from being a contender, I get wanting to reset the cap clock if you arenāt 100% sold on him. Iām not a big Justin Fields believer or Chicago fan, but if you are Iād understand being concerned by this move. If the draft grade on Caleb Williams is correct then you canāt pass on the opportunity, even if it means you roster both players. The Bears have cap space to address their other issues.
Danger Russ is maybe hanging out with BillB for a bit. Heās going to collect over 30 million from the Donks whether he plays or not. Just as well sit out until a starting QB spot opens up for a contender late in the season. Or maybe Denver decides to keep him given the abysmal options available to them.
Mock drafts showing as many as six QBs going in round 1.
Report coming out that Chiefs cutting MVS, start of WR room change
@AsadZ said in 2024 NFL Offseason - FAs, Trades, Draft:
Report coming out that Chiefs cutting MVS, start of WR room change
Yea, thatās been around a few days. Saves the Chiefs $12 million on the cap. Thatās not a bad thing.
@AsadZ said in 2024 NFL Offseason - FAs, Trades, Draft:
Mock drafts showing as many as six QBs going in round 1.
I like that a lot! More QBs taken in Round 1 means better options for the Chiefs later on! :)
Looks like the Chiefs put the non exclusive tag on CB Sneed. I like that. They can match any offers if they like, or receive a few first round picks in return if he signs elsewhere and they let him go.
Looks like Allegretti will move on.
Sure is talking like he wants to start somewhere @Gorilla72 .
Russell Wilson got cut by Denver. Who will pick him, basically at no cost as Denver is on hook for his salary?
Steelers could be a good fit.
@AsadZ Many experts keep saying Russ will play for a million bucks. I donāt think he will. His career is nearing the end and he can double dip this year. Maybe he signs a cheap 15 mil one year deal, but I would be surprised if he takes the league minimum.
80 million in dead money for Denver. Wow. Russ played half way decent last year. Sean Peyton must absolutely hate Russel Wilson, this isnāt just a football move.
I'm actually kinda of excited for my Packers this upcoming season. Jordon Love progressed quite nicely from about the middle of the Season to the end, Ended up making the playoffs, got a win against the Cowboys so things looking up. As much as I like Aaron glad to done with the drama, the Packers have an exciting young deep group of receivers, young QB and oh ya Aaron Jones.
Actually looking forward to the Season, things might not be as bad as us Pack fans had thought, might be interesting
There goes the Mike Evans pipe dream. Back with the Bucs.
Need Chris Jones to come to an agreement (or not) so Veach can move unencumbered in free agency (assuming he has a trade partner for Sneed). Cap space as is, is very tight and they still have key free agents - Gay, Tranquil, Danna, Jones! unsigned. The first shoe dropped with the tag on Sneed. Hope that signals a deal with Jones is eminent.
@rockchalkjayhawk $56M, 2 year deal. He got paid.
@AsadZ said in 2024 NFL Offseason - FAs, Trades, Draft:
@rockchalkjayhawk $56M, 2 year deal. He got paid.
Our KMart budget didnāt match his Lamborghini price tag!
@AsadZ I thought you were replying to Dylans about Chris Jones.... Oh. Phooey.
I just got done reading about Evans' contract being exaggerated. This is from Mike Florio at NBC:
***Itās officially #OverstatedContractValue season.
It happens every year. Agents do new contracts. They text the basic details to a small group of reporters. The reporters engage in a thumb race to X, communicating the numbers as gospel.
Within a day or two, the truth puts its pants on.
This year, it started with Bucs receiver Mike Evans. Two years, $52 million! $35 million guaranteed!
Itās actually, weāre told, a two-year, $41 million deal. The other $11 million comes in the form of incentives and escalators.
The deal pays out $23 million fully guaranteed in 2024. Heās due to make $18 million in 2025. Of that amount, $6 million is fully guaranteed and $6 million is guaranteed for injury.
So itās a $20.5 million deal, not a $26 million contract. And it has $29 million fully guaranteed at signing.
Itās not bad for a guy with 10 years of NFL wear and tear. But itās not what they told you it was on Monday.***
@dylans said in 2024 NFL Offseason - FAs, Trades, Draft:
@AsadZ Many experts keep saying Russ will play for a million bucks. I donāt think he will. His career is nearing the end and he can double dip this year. Maybe he signs a cheap 15 mil one year deal, but I would be surprised if he takes the league minimum.
80 million in dead money for Denver. Wow. Russ played half way decent last year. Sean Peyton must absolutely hate Russel Wilson, this isnāt just a football move.
Sean Payton looks pretty bad throwing Hackett under the bus the way he did. Now heās cussing his QB out on the sideline and s-cans him in less than a year. Iām beginning to think Drew Brees made Payton look better at coaching than he wouldāve looked elsewhere.
Report is out that Chiefs are signing D Tranquil, 3 yrs $19M, 13M guaranteed.
This is a good move to lock in one of key players.
Signing Chris Jones 5 yrs.
Yes!
Denver traded Judey to Browns, I was not expecting this one.
@AsadZ said in 2024 NFL Offseason - FAs, Trades, Draft:
@mayjay $95M guaranteed, about $32M per year, Wow
I havenāt seen the implications yet. Hope itās not a cap crusher deal! Five years is a loooong time. Wow. But Iām very happy heās locked in. Whoās next?
Patriots traded Jones to Jags for 6th rounder.
With 3rd pick they will now definitely select QB.
Mayfield getting 3 years $100M from Bucks.
Wow, sounds like the Jones contract is extremely cap friendly. $6M per year or so?
@rockchalkjayhawk 7.4mil in year one. 35 mil in year 2, 41 million in year 3. 12 million in dead cap if heās cut after year 3. 30 million signing bonus is spread over all 5 years evenly and his salary varies from year to year. 31.8million average per year.
Forgive me if Iām off a little Iām going off the top of my head. Iāll post a link if I can find it.
Dorrance Armstrong sings with the Commanders. Three years for 45.
As I guess expected itās pretty quiet on the Chiefs FA front. Probably no big names coming our way? I do expect some lesser signings at some point. Cmon WR! Ha.
Actually, O line likely a point of emphasis, huh.
@rockchalkjayhawk Veach doesnāt like to have glaring needs going into the draft, but the cap it pretty tight. Need to trade or sign Sneed and that would clarify the salary cap situation. There is about 30 million in wiggle room in Mahomes contract by converting salary to a roster bonus or some nonsense that spreads the cap hit out over multiple years. You eventually have to account for it though.
It appears that Justin Fields with remain with Bears.
Most teams tied to him, have already selected their quarterback.
This may end up being a good move for bears, create battle and competition for number one spot.
Willie Gay out the door. Bummer.
WR option Mooney sign elsewhere, too.
Hollywood
So jacked to get Keenan Allen. All the sudden that's a heck of a supporting cast for (likely) Caleb Williams.
@FarmerJayhawk Gotta wonder if the Chargers are snake bit or if itās the players. Mike Williams and Keenan Allen are both studs, but always seemed injured, same on the defensive side of the ball.
At least one injury I can 100% pin on the staff is giving their starting quarterback an injection that accidentally punctured his lung and prematurely ended Tyrodās time in LA.
I think Houston @Texas-Hawk-10 and Philly have improved most this year by their FA signings and moves.
Fields to Pittsburgh for a conditional 2025 pick. Caleb come on down!
Personally I think Bears should have kept him to create competition, no matter how talented itās not easy for rookie Quarterbacks to excel in rookie year. Mahomes sat and learned from Alex Smith in his rookie year.
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2024 NFL Offseason - FAs, Trades, Draft:
Fields to Pittsburgh for a conditional 2025 pick. Caleb come on down!
Crazy that the best they could get for Fields is a 4th round pickā¦if he plays 51% of the snaps. Fields is the projected backup to the āentrenchedā Russel Wilson.
I think itās the right move. As a Bears fan, itās been awful watching Fields take sack after sack and make all the wrong plays late in games. Something like half of his total turnovers are in the 4th quarter.
@Texas-Hawk-10 If thatās the case then my hats off to Bears brass
@Texas-Hawk-10 If you believe the PR machine. Fields has proven to be a bad qb and it seems the market reflects it.
@dylans said in 2024 NFL Offseason - FAs, Trades, Draft:
@Texas-Hawk-10 If you believe the PR machine. Fields has proven to be a bad qb and it seems the market reflects it.
There's also been multiple reporters confirming Chicago had better offers on the table for Fields, but wanted to do right by Fields and send him to a good situation. Sitting behind Russell Wislon for a year isn't a terrible spot to be in.
Ugh, Sneed has been nearly officially traded to the Titans.
2025 3rd round pick main asset in return.
This should save the Chiefs about $19M in cap space.
We will see how the spend it, but Iād rather have Sneed. Great talent on a team that needs a strong defense.
@rockchalkjayhawk I'm not sorry to see him go if it opens up the cap that much. 18 penalties sort of offsets the "no reg season TDs allowed" accomplishment.
He is getting PAID.
Emotionally I am feeling sorry to see him go.
NFL Business wise, I am at peace.
All said, I am happy for him.
What happened to the lineman who had the most penalties in the league? Can't recall his name, even though they called out his name enough on all those flags.
Was it 74?
Jawwan taylor
Taylor is not going anywhere for years with the contract he has.
I don't think he had 1 penalty in any playoff game.
@Crimsonorblue22 Itās easy to forget when you win - illegal block and a false start against Miami. Illegal use of hands against Buffalo. Holding against Baltimore. I think one of those penalties was declined (the defensive version of a free play). He was very consistent in drawing penalties- at least he figured out where to line up. Taylor stinks when it comes to penalties, but his blocking is immaculate.
https://www.nflpenalties.com/player/j-taylor-kansas-city-chiefs?year=2023 ā
@bskeet said in 2024 NFL Offseason - FAs, Trades, Draft:
What happened to the lineman who had the most penalties in the league? Can't recall his name, even though they called out his name enough on all those flags.
$24.7mil per year for the next 3 years - mostly guaranteed. Taylor will be anchoring the line for the next 3 years at a minimum, more if Veach extends his contract to spread some of the cap hit out later.
The Chiefs may need to draft a WR with their first pick of Rashee Rice is going to be unavailable. (Rice is wanted in connection to a wreck in Dallas.) Probably better secure one of the FA OTs that are available for draft flexibility.
Jeez, say what now? I havenāt seen that yet. I donāt wanna look!
Meh, just read about it. No deaths or life threatening injuries. Dumb asses racing on the freeway probably.
Not expecting a major penalty. Fingers crossed though!
@rockchalkjayhawk - another issue is both drivers ran from the scene. I believe Texas law says you have to ārender aidā. Running speaks to character. But - maybe Rice wasnāt driving or even there. Iāll wait for the police report.
Doesnāt look too terrible. However running from the scene of an accident where an injury occurs is a felony in Texas. - Iāll try to find more precise info on that, but basically the worse someone is hurt the worse the penalty, but even minor injuries can incur a couple year jail sentence if you run.
@dylans Not me - I copied and pasted from another chat room. Take it for what itās worth.
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Okā¦ just got off the phone with my brother and he works in Houston and Dallas with us both being attorneys. Yeah a family of all attorneys!
Sooooā¦ with up to $200 worth of property damage before leaving the scene, they have committed a Class C misdemeanor.
maximum fine of $500
No jail time
An accident that results in more than $200 worth of damages is a Class B misdemeanor, which is
maximum fine of $2,000
maximum jail sentence of 180 days
Now this gets trickyā¦
More serious the accident was, the stricter the penalties for leaving the scene. A hit&run involving a āserious injuryā classifies as a 3rd degree felony.
maximum fine of $10,000
prison sentence from 2 to 10 years
Finally, leaving the scene of a fatal accident is a 2nd degree felony or man slaughter.
Minimum fine of $10,000
and a prison sentence from 5 to 20 years
Now there were minimum injuries but whoever was involved with be hit with civil lawsuits of course. We both can see pleading down if the DA racks up a bunch of charges. Hopefully reckless driving and possible street racing. But who knows now.
Ok, cruising the top site for this kinda stuff (TMZ pays the best for source material)ā¦these guys look to be absolute idiots. Iām still guessing Rice has a semi soft landing, but it now would not surprise me if it were harsher after seeing the scene.
Iām no expert, but dude in white could be Rice? Hair looks right, hard to say on face.
Lots of damage done to cars. Iām still guessing this pleads down to not much, but for sure civil suits coming.
Maybe heās got a good excuse.
@rockchalkjayhawk I believe it was reported that he was wearing the red bandana thing and the black shirt at the bowling alley earlier in the day. That dude in the white shirt is huge - looks like a football player, but Rice isnāt that big.
Hopefully this gets resolved today. Thankfully no one was seriously hurt.
Carson Wentz replaces Blaine Gabbert as the backup QB. Solid move. Gabbert threw too many picks to be a dependable backup.
They had an interest in him even last year, certainly an upgrade over Gabbert.
Looks like Clyde is back for a year. Iām fine with that. He can pound out a few yards.
Oddly JK Dobbins was in town today. Guessing heās off the table now with Clyde back.
We really need a pass catching back.
Clyde's a hero now!
Really need another RB with some pop, maybe a rookie. Clyde is ok for the 3rd option - fair blocker for someone so small, catches the ball well, slow runner, that canāt power for a yard though. I would like to see a bruiser to compliment Pacheco - perhaps that rugby guy will show out, but I think heās know for being fast.
My boy CJ Stroud's getting himself a weapon!! Texans trading for Stefon Diggs!
@Texas-Hawk-10 I think Texans have improved most in this offseason.
Mike Dana is back on a 3 year deal. Veatch has brought back almost entire DL.
Dang, arrest warrant for Rice.
Itās hard to root for dangerously stupid people sometimes.
āThe police report also said marijuana was found in both cars, as well as credit cards, a $16,500 check, a diamond chain and the playbook for the Kansas City Chiefs.ā
@rockchalkjayhawk Damn it Rice
Good article on Puni's fit with Chiefs, I'd love to see him get drafted and become a Chief.
@AsadZ The short arms won't, I fear, work well at tackle. Teams scheme all types of ways to get to PM around the tackles, and I think Puni may not be fast, or quick, enough to avoid getting pulled too far out. Better at guard, where Creed and the tackle can help plug the holes. But there are lots of guard options available. We need a proven tackle, not a hybrid.
My suspicion on his speed is caused by the comment in the article that he only got rated in the jumping. Why not perform in speed tests (unless that info is available elsewhere, haven't researched).
Draft day! Itās always a mystery who the Chiefs will take. My guess is WR, or they trade down into the 2nd round and load up on a few other picks.
@rockchalkjayhawk Iāve all but given up hope for the Chiefs drafting a first round WR. Itās been on my wishlist for awhile. š¤ But hereās hoping! š
Worthy. Hmm. Heās fast and can track the ball. Might work.
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@rockchalkjayhawk how big is tyreek?
@Crimsonorblue22 said in 2024 NFL Offseason - FAs, Trades, Draft:
@rockchalkjayhawk how big is tyreek?
Tyreek is a muscular 195 I think. Who knows, maybe heās fast enough to avoid getting hit! :)
Worthy is not Tyreek. Tyreek was a converted RB. Tyreekās neck is thicker than Worthyās thigh. Iām hopeful he can be more of a DeShawn Jackson type. Worthy was super fast at the underwear Olympics 4.21 forty (set the record). But he also showed his speed in games. Not just a speed merchant he stacks the DBs well to gain leverage and tracks the ball very well. Time will tell, but usually when Veach trades up it goes well (this trade up was to get ahead of the 49ers who had reportedly targeted Worthy).
Iām really liking the first two picks and I think those are definitely gaps that need to be filled. I hope if Jones (OT Texas) or if Booker is still on the board they pick one of them up
@kjayhawks said in 2024 NFL Offseason - FAs, Trades, Draft:
@dylans I think he has better hands than Hill at this moment. I think this helps open up the middle for Rice and Kelce. Baring a huge suspension for Rice.
I havenāt really watched him play much, but from what Iāve been reading drops are an issue.
The BYU kid apparently is all the rage!
May need a year to learn, but has the body and physical tool kit.
@rockchalkjayhawk said in 2024 NFL Offseason - FAs, Trades, Draft:
@kjayhawks said in 2024 NFL Offseason - FAs, Trades, Draft:
@dylans I think he has better hands than Hill at this moment. I think this helps open up the middle for Rice and Kelce. Baring a huge suspension for Rice.
I havenāt really watched him play much, but from what Iāve been reading drops are an issue.
His sophomore year he had 7 drops, but he also had a broken hand. The other two years it didnāt seem to be an issue. Iād hate to watch another player drop balls like the WRs did last year!
@dylans said in 2024 NFL Offseason - FAs, Trades, Draft:
@rockchalkjayhawk said in 2024 NFL Offseason - FAs, Trades, Draft:
@kjayhawks said in 2024 NFL Offseason - FAs, Trades, Draft:
@dylans I think he has better hands than Hill at this moment. I think this helps open up the middle for Rice and Kelce. Baring a huge suspension for Rice.
I havenāt really watched him play much, but from what Iāve been reading drops are an issue.
His sophomore year he had 7 drops, but he also had a broken hand. The other two years it didnāt seem to be an issue. Iād hate to watch another player drop balls like the WRs did last year!
Ahh, great. Fingers crossed. And heck no, we donāt need any more pass droppers! For sure looking forward to that blazing speed. The problem about not knowing much about these players is that I wanna know more about these guys, so I read the scouting reports. Those can be negative. Iām sure even superstars have dinks on those reports. But given his slight frame, which is a real thing, Iāll assume weāll have to use lots of motion to get him free off the line at first. Thatāll make him even more dangerous!
@rockchalkjayhawk If DBs jam him and missā¦ TD. But it could also look a lot like Tyreek vs Sneed in the SB if he doesnāt add some muscle.
I'm anxious to see the rugby player.
The best draft guide I have ever seen is Dane Brugler's "The Beast" on The Athletic. Hundreds of pages evaluating dozens of players with lots more background than most.
Anyway, by his rankings, KC has managed to pick up 4 of the top 89 draft prospects in this year's draft. Including his no. 1 safety. In Veach we trust.
Worth the subscription even by itself, acc to many of us!
https://theathletic.com/5399690/2024/04/10/nfl-draft-2024-the-beast-dane-brugler/ ā
How would you grade Chiefs draft picks.
I give it B+
@AsadZ Iām excited to see Worthy in that offense. Kingsley was projected to the Chiefs in the first round in several mock drafts. Wiley learning from Kelce is very intriguing. Hicks was a second round talent and a potential replacement for Reid in a year. Low round picks are always a flier, but the cb has excellent traits and Veach has a good eye for that position. The center can play the entire iol. The G prospect is just a guard, but ol depth is weak so heās likely to make the team as well. It should be 6 of the 7 make the roster.
I could talk myself into an A or a C. In Veach I trust, itās an A!
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Funny
List of UFA signings:
Chiefs seem to be a magnet for guys looking to land a spot.
It will be curious to see how: Worthy, Mcconkey. Leggette and Colemanā¦.who turns out the best.
Similar to when we took mecole and dk metcalf was available or when we got skyy moore and Pickens was right there
Hopefully we got more of a desean Jackson type in worthy
@kuballin10 whoās your horse? Worthy vs the field? Iād take the field too if I lived misery, but thatās just an odds play.
Iām betting on Worthy to ball out as he has the skill set to do well in this offense. Mecole Hardman had 800 yard recording in college and was a converted DB. Worthy had 2500 and was a true #1 receiver. Not a good comp.
Whiffing on DK was due to Hill drama and needing a speedy replacement - panic move and a bad one. No need to panic this go around.
Man thatās tough as Veach hasnāt gotten a wr right besides Rice being his first (whiffs on plenty).
I lean toward Worthy and think he will actually be a stud. As you said way different than converted db mecole.
Yeah Hill forced veachās hand and you donāt bat 1000.0 in the draft so I get it.
Overall gotta trust the staff as theyāve done great these past 3-4 drafts and I think Veach has grown a ton in player scouting. Heās drafting smart athletes
I actually think Hill will be our next Tony G. Dude is big, runs/moves like Kelce and being a former qb is smart when it comes to diagnosing coverages. He wonāt be Kelce as hardly anyone can be I think he will be a stud.
Overall this draft class should be an impact from day 1
Three peat time baby!
@kuballin10 Yeah Iām excited about Wiley too. Boom or bust I suppose, but a 4th rounder is not much of a gamble.
Uh oh. Rice under investigation for a nightclub assault. They say he walloped a photographer.
@rockchalkjayhawk Damn, something I did not want to hear and see.
@AsadZ said in 2024 NFL Offseason - FAs, Trades, Draft:
@rockchalkjayhawk Damn, something I did not want to hear and see.
Nope. Dude needs to realize heās got it good. Let your crew do the dirty work!
The suspension is getting longerā¦
Allegedly
Meanwhile, Kelce is hosting game shows, joining the cast of American Horror Story and in general keeping out of trouble by elevating his celebrity.
@Crimsonorblue22 yeah. I'm not the target audience. ;-) My daughter (now 22) liked it.
Interesting comments by Harrison B
Oh boy. Saw that. The Chiefs are quickly becoming a PR nightmare.
And now I just read that Rashee Rice had a gun incident in college! He and some buds shot up an empty car belonging to a basketball player. They are making it sound like all pro teams knew of this before the draft.
Man. Red flags.
I see a suspension coming
@AsadZ said in 2024 NFL Offseason - FAs, Trades, Draft:
Interesting comments by Harrison B
I was there and I was shocked by what he was saying in real time.
But people have lost their minds over this. Heās certainly entitled to his opinions and religion. Personally, I just found it to be a really bad graduation speech and something meant for a different event.
The BC grads I know felt the same.
Which would be worse...losing Rice or Butker for the season?
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Chiefs play on everyday except Tuesday next season.
Holy crap. At first glance, that schedule looks brutal!
@rockchalkjayhawk The price of winning. At least we get the NFC South slate.
I see most experts are ranking the Chiefs SOS in the middle somewhere.
Dang, looks tough to me! I got em losing 4 games if all goes well.
Lots of talking heads picking the Ravens to beat the Chiefs in the opener. Mahomes is 4-1 against Lamar with the one being due to a perfectly thrown ball being dropped by Toney (smdh) and intercepted. Not sure Iād put any money on Baltimore.
Rookie, Worthy's car was stolen this week. What else?#%&$
@Kcmatt7 good take, I think Harrison was a bit over the top on this for sure. But man X and Facebook are blowing up with petitions to get him cut and such. This is America and he is free to support any religion he chooses. Iām shocked by how much more outrage there is on this than Deshaun Watson signing a record breaking deal after sexually assaulting 24 women.
@kjayhawks said in 2024 NFL Offseason - FAs, Trades, Draft:
Iām shocked by how much more outrage there is on this than Deshaun Watson signing a record breaking deal after sexually assaulting 24 women.
The outrage about this is a drop in the bucket comparatively. That one played out over a couple years so you might not remember how hot it got.
@kjayhawks ehhhh. I think there was plenty of outrage. Some of that was suppressed because he was also suspended for a full season. So he was out of the spotlight so to speak.
There also wasnāt an āopposing sideā to the Watson stuff. Like everyone knew it was bad. So there wasnāt debate.
@Kcmatt7 Oh, there were a lot of Watson defenders who tried to advance the notion that he was innocent of any wrongdoing because the DA did not press charges.
And I also remember people braying that the women Watson pressured into sexual contact were most likely prostitutes since they were masseuses. These people belong in a very, very hot destination.
Chiefs have signed all but there first two picks.
Sounds like WR Worthy will be signed pretty soon, but that BYU lineman may take another month.
And for those of you still interested in Butker's comments, you can read the entirety of his graduation speech here:
https://www.ncregister.com/news/harrison-butker-speech-at-benedictine ā
(Before i read the full speech, i was angrily outraged at Butler. After i read the full speech, i was outraged, but less so).
Is thinking everyone is a pervert that much different than thinking everyone is dumb?
@approxinfinity if all the perverted dumbasses would stay home it might change the view. š
2 Chiefs arrested in Kansas for misdemeanor marijuana possession. Great off-season keeps rollin' along....
Veatch better get on the phone and call Taylor's agent.
@AsadZ Isnāt Taylor the right tackle? Do you mean Smith from last season at Lt following the Morris shenanigans? FWIW I seriously doubt Morris misses even a game and Kingsley is gonna win the job imho.
Another Taylor is rumored (not reality, but funny) to have influenced the Chiefs schedule - Bills in the middle of the season while a small concert is going on in Canada.
@mayjay said in 2024 NFL Offseason - FAs, Trades, Draft:
2 Chiefs arrested in Kansas for misdemeanor marijuana possession. Great off-season keeps rollin' along....
I know these football players take a lot of hits to the head, but really, how dumb do you have to be to get arrested for pot possession while driving? Youāre either smoking up like cheech and chong, with billows of smoke trailing you, or you have it in plain sight when pulled over.
Either way youāre an idiot.
Hope these players go through some sort of training in their rookie years, its unbelievable.
Putting such a black eye on the franchise.
And itās legal right across the state line. Like guys have more than a room temp IQ here
Thats a valid point Farmer, I was not aware.
@FarmerJayhawk I grew up a mile from State Line Road and remember the days when Kansas cops were reputed (ah, Jaybate, where art thou?) to go park near KC, MO liquor stores and follow cars with KS license plates back across the state line. Then bust them for bringing booze into Kansas. This was before Vern Miller arrested (or did he just threaten?) airline attendants for serving liquor by the drink while flying over the Sunflower State.
The story about the cops might have been my father just trying to scare us impressionable teens, but I did hear it from others. Did Kansas have no liquor stores back in the good ol' days?
@FarmerJayhawk Go to Missouri for weed and Kansas for gambling. They should set up a riverboat casino dispensary and make it your one stop shop for ruining a young nfl career. š
As teenagers, We used to drive across the border from Kansas to buy real 5.0 beer instead of 3.2.
@rockchalkjayhawk Yeah. I had a blowout and no spare near the Truman complex on the 4th of July as aā¦ letās just say 21 year old on a beer run. lol even the cops wouldnāt stop to help. Had to walk a couple miles to find a working pay phone (before everyone had a phone in their pocket). Was interesting- only one person told me I was going to get shot while walking down prospect, the others just scurried away to avoid stray bullets. lol not the best neighborhood. But we did make it back with some very warm beer after a 5 hour detour.
It's a common occurrence in the MSM. Headline of guess what so and so just did/said. Article says this is outrageous in 2o24. I read the article, watch the clip, figure out the context, read the speech/listen to it and think this is what you pick on somebody for?
This is the Harrison Butker situation. Some media talking head calls him anti-woman. Many many woman speak up in support of what he says. Then you read the comments on social media. Like almost zero comments supporting the MSM outrage. A couple I grant you. Free speech people are outraged by his free speech. Fans glorify the beer guzzling Kelce brothers (I acknowledge not the biggest outrage), or tolerate their hero's who have arrests/lawsuits/numerous lawbrushes etc etc. Athletes spawning children with multiple mothers.
Meanwhile Butker describes my upbringing, my wifes, my own childrens and the media goes nuts. What a dinosaur they say. Yet said dinosaur raises children safe and comfortable knowing parents love them and support them. They'll be fed, provided for and with a greater outlook on life than the standard the MSM consistently touts. Marry and stay married means staying out of poverty 95% of the time the statistics say. But What a horrible person some say. He's so bad that he should be fired from playing football which is just the stupidest take of all time in a world of stupid takes.
If I stepped on toes I sort of apologize but people with my views are prevented from sharing them for fear of the reprisals, even loss of jobs if you say the wrong thing. I'm glad Harrison exercised his free speech rights and shame on those who don't recognize it.
@wissox Just remember that what you are seeing on social media is what the algorithm feeds you. It's selective and personalized. (I don't see what you see, and you don't see what I see.)
Content is delivered based on how likely they think it will get you to engage (either strong reinforcement or provocative dissonance.)
Dgaf
@rockchalkjayhawk said in 2024 NFL Offseason - FAs, Trades, Draft:
(Before i read the full speech, i was angrily outraged at Butler. After i read the full speech, i was outraged, but less so).
They definitely did some doctoring on his quotes after you watch the full speech. In which should be illegal IMO for spreading false narratives from what is supposed to be trusted news sources. Either put what he said entirely or donāt put anything at all is the way I look at it.
@kjayhawks I found the full speech was really pretty standard for the very conservative branch of Catholicism, though. Interesting that he was so angry about clergy nowadays being so close to their parishioners instead of being more removed both physically and spiritually. I had a friend at KU who was part of a movement to get rid of Vatican II, and he explained those issues to Unitarian me.
Butker definitely would not like the modern Episcopal approach.
I was offended! I can't imagine sitting at my graduation, having loans, especially the cost now, and listening to him say life starts when I get married and have children. What are the diabolical lies we've been told? Even the Nuns didn't Agee w/him. I don't want him fired, he's just not my type. Thank gosh my husband helped me around the house and was great w/the kids. When he died young, thank the good Lord I had a degree and we had life insurance. As a teacher I've had many different kinds of kids, I've always treated them the same. It's opened my eyes and that's been good for me. I've also had friends that needed IVF to have children and some friends that needed abortions-healthcare to save their lives or to save one twin or they would lose both. They all wanted children! I'm not Catholic. No offense, it's not for me. I am a Christian and baptized.
@Crimsonorblue22 - That is a great response! Why canāt more people respond like this instead of denigrating the man because they have a different belief? Sheesh.
I wish somebody would explain the diabolical lies part.
I happen to agree with Harrison - the best thing Iāve ever done is raise a family. My career is helpful in that end. I take pride in being good at what I do, but is not my lifeās goal. My career is a means to an end - taking care of my family. Thatās how I took his speech. Would I have said it the way he did? no.
How about something positive?!?
Looks like Rice is off the hook for the photographer incident. That's good!
Also, the Chiefs signed their second round pick. Donāt make me spell his name!
That leaves Worthy unsigned. Expected soon they say.
@rockchalkjayhawk Kingsley š
No politics! Chiefs seemed to have fun at the White House. Travis even got the mic for a quick sec! No matter who is there it's a special honor, let's hope for another repeat.
Some good and sad news from the Chiefs today.
Looks like they are resigning Mecole Hardman.
But sadly a second year defensive lineman went down with a serious medical emergency at practice today. yikes.
@rockchalkjayhawk BJ Thompson, got cardiac arrest
scary! jeez.
Did a lot of Kansas folks get a text asking for support in funding the chiefs move to Kansas?
https://act.newmode.net/action/scoop-and-score-inc/keep-chiefs-kansas-city ā
@dylans said in 2024 NFL Offseason - FAs, Trades, Draft:
Did a lot of Kansas folks get a text asking for support in funding the chiefs move to Kansas?
https://act.newmode.net/action/scoop-and-score-inc/keep-chiefs-kansas-city ā
Yep, I got it. Horrible idea but shills gonna shill
I didn't, but I'd love it if they moved close to the legends area.
Details are out now on the bill. Taxpayers (via bonds) pay for 75% of the project but we can't see any of the revenue projections that allegedly make it a great deal. Doesn't seem sketchy in the slightest