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Harvard vs Kansas chat.....
Dec 05, 2015 08:04 PM #1

Looks like we may miss a portion of the game as I doubt this So Miss/WKU game will end before 2:15.

Dec 05, 2015 08:09 PM #2

@brooksmd yeah..what's up with that?

Dec 05, 2015 08:10 PM #3

@KUSTEVE You and I would call it poor program management by ESPN.

Dec 05, 2015 08:10 PM #4

Even Jethro Bodine could schedule better than ESPN.

Dec 05, 2015 08:10 PM #5

For those with access, it is coming up on ESPN3.

Dec 05, 2015 08:11 PM #6

11 minutes to go in a football game, when the guide says it should be bball highlights..

Dec 05, 2015 08:11 PM #7

espn 3 better be better than last time...that's all I got to say 'bout dat...

Dec 05, 2015 08:12 PM #8

@KUSTEVE My standby screen is kind of blurry. Definitely not HD.

Dec 05, 2015 08:13 PM #9

@brooksmd ughh....

Dec 05, 2015 08:13 PM #10

They allot 3 hours for a college football game. Everyone knows college football games last 3.5-4 hours.

Dec 05, 2015 08:14 PM #11

@wissoxfan83 Evidently ESPN ain't figured it out yet.

Dec 05, 2015 08:18 PM #12

@brooksmd I have a love-hate relationship with ESPN. Before they came around a few games a week were televised, now obviously many are shown, but then they do crap like this.

Dec 05, 2015 08:19 PM #13

On the bright side, sure is a beauty down south today, eh?

Dec 05, 2015 08:19 PM #14

@wissoxfan83 Wonderful.

Dec 05, 2015 08:20 PM #15

Pardon me while I duck out so I can watch game on full screen. Be back after they switch to ESPN2.

Dec 05, 2015 08:20 PM #16

SOmetimes ESPNnews will pick it up, but AZ-Gonz just started there as ESPN has the same issue.

Dec 05, 2015 08:21 PM #17

That play will make HEM cringe

Dec 05, 2015 08:24 PM #18

@brooksmd not getting on Espn watch either

Dec 05, 2015 08:25 PM #19

All the starters are wearing long grey socks except for Perry

Dec 05, 2015 08:25 PM #20

Baylor about to get upset

Dec 05, 2015 08:26 PM #21

or it leggings..

Dec 05, 2015 08:26 PM #22

Matodor defense gives some bright young man a bragging rights move in AFH

Dec 05, 2015 08:26 PM #23

@Second-Prize what r u watching it on?

Dec 05, 2015 08:27 PM #24

Football game is about to end.

Dec 05, 2015 08:28 PM #25

@wissoxfan83 OLE!!!!! LOL...

Dec 05, 2015 08:29 PM #26

ESPN3 stayed live, it sounded like they honored Lynette Woodard during the break

Dec 05, 2015 08:30 PM #27

Hooray, live TV

Dec 05, 2015 08:31 PM #28

We need a cheick up

Dec 05, 2015 08:33 PM #29

Immediately Cheick makes his presence felt

Dec 05, 2015 08:33 PM #30

The cameraman was zooming in on a blonde woman awkwardly during the break on ESPN3 broadcast, ha.

Dec 05, 2015 08:36 PM #31

Svi and Diallo look badass with the short sleeves

Dec 05, 2015 08:37 PM #32

3 ball still working

Dec 05, 2015 08:37 PM #33

Love the ball movement

Dec 05, 2015 08:38 PM #34

@Crimsonorblue22 Running the zone ragged.

Dec 05, 2015 08:38 PM #35

Wow Dg!

Dec 05, 2015 08:39 PM #36

Selden's going to win some awards if he continues this.

Dec 05, 2015 08:40 PM #37

Anyone think self doesn't like the 3?

Dec 05, 2015 08:40 PM #38

Perfect pass

Dec 05, 2015 08:40 PM #39

@wissoxfan83 He's already a finalist in the coveted "Jethro's MVP" awards...

Dec 05, 2015 08:40 PM #40

I think Self likes dunks too

Dec 05, 2015 08:41 PM #41

@wissoxfan83 me too

Dec 05, 2015 08:41 PM #42

Thank you Harvard for switching to zone!!!

Dec 05, 2015 08:41 PM #43

Love D too

Dec 05, 2015 08:41 PM #44

@KUSTEVE

Your list of finalists are all Jayhawks right?

Dec 05, 2015 08:42 PM #45

Even DG getting in on the jam circus.

Dec 05, 2015 08:42 PM #46

@wissoxfan83 better be!

Dec 05, 2015 08:42 PM #47

@wissoxfan83 Absotively....RCJH...

Dec 05, 2015 08:42 PM #48

Need to focus on throws!

Dec 05, 2015 08:42 PM #49

@KUSTEVE All the way down to Tyler Self, right?

Dec 05, 2015 08:43 PM #50

Good d Lucas!

Dec 05, 2015 08:43 PM #51

We need to improve our free throw defense.

Dec 05, 2015 08:43 PM #52

Diallo has just tied Perry Ellis in career head fakes at KU.

Dec 05, 2015 08:43 PM #53

@KUSTEVE LOL

Dec 05, 2015 08:44 PM #54

Diallo not quite ready for that pass-yet!

Dec 05, 2015 08:44 PM #55

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Dec 05, 2015 08:45 PM #56

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Dec 05, 2015 08:46 PM #57

@SoftballDad2011 That's a lot of names in the scorebook already. That's what I love about this team.

Dec 05, 2015 08:47 PM #58

This team has so many weapons. Really liking how things are coming together.

Dec 05, 2015 08:48 PM #59

If there is something to gripe about I guess it would be early rebounding?

Dec 05, 2015 08:48 PM #60

Seems like the team is not even really in sync right now and we are up 14...

From watching it seems like this could get ugly for Harvard quick, and be a 100-50 type pf game..

Dec 05, 2015 08:49 PM #61

Perry a lil short on shots

Dec 05, 2015 08:52 PM #62

Did LL even jump for that attempt at the rebound?

Dec 05, 2015 08:53 PM #63

Fran, I forget.....can you redshirt in the Ivy League?

Dec 05, 2015 08:53 PM #64

I'll take Perry over niang

Dec 05, 2015 08:54 PM #65

There it is, the press creating turnovers again.

Dec 05, 2015 08:54 PM #66

Even though we are dominating them, this Harvard team is exposing a bit our weakness inside. We're getting stuffed a lot and being bailed out by fouls. We aren't converting many shots at the rim in other words expect on fast breaks.

Dec 05, 2015 08:54 PM #67

Crimson has exploited our transition D a few times.

Dec 05, 2015 08:55 PM #68

Great D there

Dec 05, 2015 08:57 PM #69

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Dec 05, 2015 08:57 PM #70

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Dec 05, 2015 08:59 PM #71

IF that announcer was right on the shooting percentages at that point, we were shooting 50% on FG's, 3's, and FT's. How often has that happened.

Dec 05, 2015 09:00 PM #72

Wayyyyy to much time on lil Fran

Dec 05, 2015 09:00 PM #73

Our team is in an afternoon siesta right now.

Dec 05, 2015 09:01 PM #74

@Crimsonorblue22 said:

Wayyyyy to much time on lil Fran

Be nice.....lol

Dec 05, 2015 09:02 PM #75

Yea mari

Dec 05, 2015 09:02 PM #76

Fran please don't say svi's last name again!

Dec 05, 2015 09:04 PM #77

Last 6-7 minutes of the half was pretty rough

Dec 05, 2015 09:05 PM #78

@Crimsonorblue22 The boys may have to put on their spare shorts after this half-time break. I'm sure HCBS will have some comments.

Dec 05, 2015 09:06 PM #79

I had to rewind and hear him say it again!😳

Dec 05, 2015 09:06 PM #80

@SoftballDad2011 Yep, forced shots and bad defense.

Dec 05, 2015 09:06 PM #81

Harvard has been a tournament team and we are not playing badly for the most part but it just feels like if we finished at the rim more, and were a bit more in sync, this would and should be a blowout.

Dec 05, 2015 09:06 PM #82

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Dec 05, 2015 09:07 PM #83

Well crap I just flagged somebody!

Dec 05, 2015 09:07 PM #84

We've been playing so many, hard to maintain a rhythm too

Dec 05, 2015 09:07 PM #85

Half time stats

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Dec 05, 2015 09:08 PM #86

@Second-Prize think I flagged u, sorry! Why 2nd prize and not 1st?

Dec 05, 2015 09:10 PM #87

We looked pretty good through the middle portion. Last 6-7 mins, not so much.
A lot of lineup combos. Svi played a lot. My first look at Diallo. Needs to work on finishing better.

Dec 05, 2015 09:11 PM #88

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Dec 05, 2015 09:11 PM #89

@Crimsonorblue22 He (she?) won 2nd prize in a beauty contest. and won 10 dollars.

Dec 05, 2015 09:11 PM #90

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Dec 05, 2015 09:13 PM #91

Looks like the stats sheet has it right about LL. DNP

Dec 05, 2015 09:13 PM #92

@brooksmd Was his alias playing.

Dec 05, 2015 09:14 PM #93

@wissoxfan83 :question:

Dec 05, 2015 09:15 PM #94

@wissoxfan83 Somebody was wearing 33.

Dec 05, 2015 09:15 PM #95

@brooksmd Well I saw him play even though it says DNP

Dec 05, 2015 09:15 PM #96

@brooksmd said:

@wissoxfan83 Somebody was wearing 33.

Wearing, but not really playing!?!?!

Dec 05, 2015 09:15 PM #97

@Crimsonorblue22

A few reasons for the moniker. It is a nickname for a character in a novel called Trainspotting, who is an example of athletic talent wasted, which I can relate to all too well.

I was also second born of fraternal twins.

I forget at this moment other reasons but there were more, ha.

Dec 05, 2015 09:17 PM #98

@Second-Prize So you're the first loser? j/k

Dec 05, 2015 09:18 PM #99

@wissoxfan83 had a board

Dec 05, 2015 09:18 PM #100

@Second-Prize interesting!

Dec 05, 2015 09:19 PM #101

@Crimsonorblue22 Boys gonna have to work more to get to their game point average.

Dec 05, 2015 09:20 PM #102

There's ole 33

Dec 05, 2015 09:20 PM #103

@brooksmd

Ha!

Hey, if you get second place in anything, you were pretty close and had a real chance! I will take the chance!

Dec 05, 2015 09:20 PM #104

I love dg

Dec 05, 2015 09:20 PM #105

@Crimsonorblue22 said:

@wissoxfan83 had a board

I think a FT and two FT attempts too

Dec 05, 2015 09:21 PM #106

@SoftballDad2011 now a foul

Dec 05, 2015 09:21 PM #107

@SoftballDad2011 said:

@Crimsonorblue22 said:

@wissoxfan83 had a board

I think a FT and two FT attempts too

Dec 05, 2015 09:21 PM #108

And one!

Dec 05, 2015 09:21 PM #109

@Crimsonorblue22 Looks like LL.

Dec 05, 2015 09:22 PM #110

Damn, Mason and Graham are sick...

Dec 05, 2015 09:22 PM #111

Perry???

Dec 05, 2015 09:22 PM #112

@Second-Prize Good thing we don't have to rely on the Commodore today.

Dec 05, 2015 09:23 PM #113

@Crimsonorblue22 He is just totally off his game.

Dec 05, 2015 09:23 PM #114

Rims are not being kind to us today either

Dec 05, 2015 09:24 PM #115

So many missed opportunities

Dec 05, 2015 09:24 PM #116

Nice!

Dec 05, 2015 09:25 PM #117

Fran should not do harvards games or ours, just because I don't like him!

Dec 05, 2015 09:25 PM #118

I'm about to put this game on mute, these announcers are terrible.

Dec 05, 2015 09:25 PM #119

WS!!!

Dec 05, 2015 09:26 PM #120

@brooksmd ?

Dec 05, 2015 09:26 PM #121

Guy on the Harvard bench is starting to irritate me after their 3s

Dec 05, 2015 09:27 PM #122

HOw good would this harvard team be if they weren't missing 4 players to injury?

Dec 05, 2015 09:27 PM #123

For being Harvard, somebody needs to tell the guy on the bench that looks really dumb!

Dec 05, 2015 09:27 PM #124

@Hawk8086 beer goggle dude?

Dec 05, 2015 09:27 PM #125

@wissoxfan83 Fran's kid?

Dec 05, 2015 09:27 PM #126

The focus level is very low right now. Very disappointing.

Dec 05, 2015 09:28 PM #127

@wissoxfan83 guessing still not good.

Dec 05, 2015 09:28 PM #128

FLAT FLAT FLAT - no energy since about the 12 minute mark of first half. 4-6 from 3 in the first 10 minutes - 0-3 since. Not finishing anything near the rim....

Dec 05, 2015 09:29 PM #129

@DCHawker time to press again. Just like years past, this team needs something to get the energy up. No more half court games please!

Dec 05, 2015 09:29 PM #130

Is this a home game?

Dec 05, 2015 09:30 PM #131

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Dec 05, 2015 09:30 PM #132

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Dec 05, 2015 09:31 PM #133

Where did the lil Fran's go to high school?

Dec 05, 2015 09:31 PM #134

KU needs to get out and run

Dec 05, 2015 09:32 PM #135

I take it back. If these guys don't get their act together we may need the Commodore.

Dec 05, 2015 09:33 PM #136

@DoubleDD Lesser teams beat better teams by playing a half court - think Stanford and UNI. Need to press

Dec 05, 2015 09:34 PM #137

Cheick!

Dec 05, 2015 09:34 PM #138

Needed Diallo to cheick in.

Dec 05, 2015 09:35 PM #139

Fran do not say svi's last name ever again!!

Dec 05, 2015 09:35 PM #140

@brooksmd Need him to what? Drink some Red Bull?

Dec 05, 2015 09:35 PM #141

Man, Svi just got posterized..

Dec 05, 2015 09:36 PM #142

Not liking our effort or attention to detail

Dec 05, 2015 09:37 PM #143

@Second-Prize he should know that by now

Dec 05, 2015 09:37 PM #144

@SoftballDad2011 Since the early run of turnovers, Harvard has totally out-executed us - and dominating down low.

Dec 05, 2015 09:38 PM #145

Welcome to Bad Ball.

Dec 05, 2015 09:38 PM #146

@DCHawker embarrassing

Dec 05, 2015 09:39 PM #147

@DoubleDD I liked good ball better

Dec 05, 2015 09:39 PM #148

@wissoxfan83 Orange lost again.

Dec 05, 2015 09:40 PM #149

Throws😡

Dec 05, 2015 09:40 PM #150

I'm sure it's Coach Self's fault that we are missing shots not playing hard and can't rebound.

Dec 05, 2015 09:41 PM #151

@brooksmd Yep, badgers won again

Dec 05, 2015 09:41 PM #152

Can we go back to the middle of the first half team?

Dec 05, 2015 09:41 PM #153

I'm going to have to edit my post from earlier this week about all the great stats this team has.

Dec 05, 2015 09:42 PM #154

Great pass!

Dec 05, 2015 09:43 PM #155

Hate that we are playing like crap, but not all bad that they are having to work at it......should be a good leaning point for them.

Dec 05, 2015 09:45 PM #156

6-15 from FT line...

Dec 05, 2015 09:45 PM #157

@DCHawker awful

Dec 05, 2015 09:45 PM #158

Free throws and rebounds, horrible.

Dec 05, 2015 09:45 PM #159

@SoftballDad2011 MSU should've been all the learning point they needed.

Dec 05, 2015 09:45 PM #160

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Dec 05, 2015 09:46 PM #161

@brooksmd exactly. Goes back to coaching.

Dec 05, 2015 09:46 PM #162

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Dec 05, 2015 09:46 PM #163

Perry ugh

Dec 05, 2015 09:47 PM #164

Self shouting at them to "show some emotion" out there..

Dec 05, 2015 09:47 PM #165

Dude is playing like Ali F from UNI

Dec 05, 2015 09:47 PM #166

@DinarHawk Coaching has nothing to do with all the misses by Perry.

Dec 05, 2015 09:47 PM #167

@SoftballDad2011 figures

Dec 05, 2015 09:48 PM #168

@brooksmd not talking about shooting. It's about defense, rebounding and effort

Dec 05, 2015 09:48 PM #169

Reminds me of an NCAA tournament game

Dec 05, 2015 09:49 PM #170

Help? See the dang ball

Dec 05, 2015 09:49 PM #171

@DinarHawk because Self is telling to go out and play poorly?

Dec 05, 2015 09:49 PM #172

Call a jump ball!

Dec 05, 2015 09:49 PM #173

I just want to rip my eyes out.

Dec 05, 2015 09:50 PM #174

@SoftballDad2011 who is the one that teaches them defense and rebounding? Is it the managers or the ball boy?

Dec 05, 2015 09:50 PM #175

@KUinLA Yep. Frustrating to see this over and over and over.

Dec 05, 2015 09:52 PM #176

Now that we're doing poorly someone shows up on the message board.

Dec 05, 2015 09:52 PM #177

@DinarHawk

And the fact that we have done just fine at those things for the past 5 games but can't do it today is on the coach?.....no that is execution or lack there of.

If we hadn't out rebounded Vandy's 7' era and out hustled UCLA I'd give you the point.

This is poor effort by the players on the court

Dec 05, 2015 09:52 PM #178

Maybe we should start the conversation on how great this Harvard team is?

Dec 05, 2015 09:53 PM #179

@wissoxfan83 and they are conversing w/ each other.....kind of like a person with multiple personalities?!??!?

Dec 05, 2015 09:55 PM #180

Glad That Self taught Ellis that spin move in the huddle during that last time out

Dec 05, 2015 09:55 PM #181

Good thing we have a deep bench

Dec 05, 2015 09:56 PM #182

KU goes on a run. I'm calling it.

Dec 05, 2015 09:56 PM #183

Nice Dg!

Dec 05, 2015 09:56 PM #184

@SoftballDad2011 I hope you are not talking about me. My point is that I have seen this movie many times. Last year against WSU, year before against Stanford, Bucknell, and UNI.

Dec 05, 2015 09:57 PM #185

Masooooooon!!

Dec 05, 2015 09:58 PM #186

@DinarHawk change the channel maybe?

Dec 05, 2015 09:58 PM #187

Its starting to rain in the PHog.

Dec 05, 2015 09:58 PM #188

@DinarHawk Actually we see it so much even during the regular season it's almost a trait of KU bb.

Dec 05, 2015 09:58 PM #189

@DinarHawk

I am. And if you dislike the director so much could could just stop going to his movies.

Dec 05, 2015 09:59 PM #190

Hi all. Little late to the party.

Dec 05, 2015 09:59 PM #191

@Eric-san I crack up over your name!

Dec 05, 2015 09:59 PM #192

I hate that Hyundai commercial. Just wanted to let everyone know

Dec 05, 2015 09:59 PM #193

@Eric-san Yep. Maybe you're the good luck charm we need.

Dec 05, 2015 10:00 PM #194

Busy with work but not looking so hot KU?

Dec 05, 2015 10:00 PM #195

@Eric-san rebounding and ft's killing us, Selden has 4 fouls

Dec 05, 2015 10:01 PM #196

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Dec 05, 2015 10:01 PM #197

@SoftballDad2011 KUinLA was my intended target unfortunately, doesn't seem to have much positive to say.

Dec 05, 2015 10:01 PM #198

Hmm 2 games in a row with poor FT.

Dec 05, 2015 10:02 PM #199

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Dec 05, 2015 10:03 PM #200

@SoftballDad2011
My OCD says charge your phone!

Dec 05, 2015 10:03 PM #201

@Eric-san diallo struggled too

Dec 05, 2015 10:03 PM #202

Harvard Freshmen playing and playing us close on the road

Dec 05, 2015 10:03 PM #203

@Crimsonorblue22 how many minutes for Diallo?

Dec 05, 2015 10:03 PM #204

@Eric-san not many

Dec 05, 2015 10:04 PM #205

@Eric-san 7

Dec 05, 2015 10:04 PM #206

Because of performance?

Dec 05, 2015 10:04 PM #207

@Eric-san does your wife call u that?

Dec 05, 2015 10:04 PM #208

@Eric-san

Lol

@VailHawk is usually the one telling me that!

Dec 05, 2015 10:05 PM #209

HCBS needs to have them shoot ft's until they puke at the words free throw.

Dec 05, 2015 10:05 PM #210

@Eric-san yep

Dec 05, 2015 10:05 PM #211

@Crimsonorblue22
She does actually... lol

Dec 05, 2015 10:05 PM #212

Perry did not guard that shot at all.

Dec 05, 2015 10:06 PM #213

Sad to say, I'll be moving out of KC this weekend.

Dec 05, 2015 10:06 PM #214

wish Lucas would dunk

Dec 05, 2015 10:06 PM #215

FTs make them #%%£|€{ $)(/&; <>{}#***^%>

Dec 05, 2015 10:06 PM #216

@Eric-san where to?

Dec 05, 2015 10:06 PM #217

Don't understand that last offensive possession.

Dec 05, 2015 10:07 PM #218

@Crimsonorblue22
Back to Chicago.

Dec 05, 2015 10:07 PM #219

Jamari in

Dec 05, 2015 10:07 PM #220

KU hits their free throws coming down the stretch. I believe, I believe, I believe.

Dec 05, 2015 10:07 PM #221

@Eric-san new job? Or wife's family?

Dec 05, 2015 10:08 PM #222

We got this.

Dec 05, 2015 10:09 PM #223

I think Dg is a leader

Dec 05, 2015 10:09 PM #224

There's 1

Dec 05, 2015 10:10 PM #225

@Crimsonorblue22 both.

Dec 05, 2015 10:10 PM #226

@SoftballDad2011 No - still hoping he will figure out how to win UNI like games in the tournament. The key is to play fast and use your athleticism. If he would have done that for the entire second half, we beat Stanford and UNI by 15.

Dec 05, 2015 10:10 PM #227

Good grief at least try to kill a few seconds

Dec 05, 2015 10:10 PM #228

And only 1... this next pair can be win or lose

Dec 05, 2015 10:11 PM #229

@Eric-san

Good luck with the move and the new job.

Dec 05, 2015 10:11 PM #230

@DinarHawk we r winning

Dec 05, 2015 10:12 PM #231

@DinarHawk I don't disagree.

Dec 05, 2015 10:12 PM #232

@DinarHawk play fast w/Tarik at 5 w/foul trouble?

Dec 05, 2015 10:12 PM #233

Who was that headed to the locker room already

Dec 05, 2015 10:13 PM #234

@Crimsonorblue22 obviously you would change personnel.

Dec 05, 2015 10:13 PM #235

@Bwag missed it

Dec 05, 2015 10:13 PM #236

Ball game. Alright Rock Chalk.

See you Gal and guys next time.

Dec 05, 2015 10:13 PM #237

If you were HCBS would any of you go with Lucas over Mickelson ? I will never understand why HCBS does not play Mickelson more. He's bigger has better hands and has better overall post skills than Lucas.

Dec 05, 2015 10:13 PM #238

@DinarHawk suggestions?

Dec 05, 2015 10:13 PM #239

Ugly, but a win. RCJH!

Dec 05, 2015 10:14 PM #240

I won't say it's been real fun, but nice to spend time with you all during these games. My wife won't talk to me about basketball so you're all I've got!

Dec 05, 2015 10:15 PM #241

@Bwag Mason?

Dec 05, 2015 10:15 PM #242

@Crimsonorblue22 Fan with a jersey on...

Dec 05, 2015 10:15 PM #243

@wissoxfan83 happy to talk ball with you man!

Dec 05, 2015 10:15 PM #244

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Dec 05, 2015 10:16 PM #245

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Dec 05, 2015 10:17 PM #246

@Eric-san

Phone is going to the charger now!

Dec 05, 2015 10:17 PM #247

@Crimsonorblue22 press at the first sign of trouble. Switch to small lineup. Sub often. UNI would have been gassed after 10 or 15 minutes.

Dec 05, 2015 10:17 PM #248

Ugly game!

Dec 05, 2015 10:18 PM #249

@DinarHawk needed Tarik against Stanford

Dec 05, 2015 10:19 PM #250

@Bwag so nothing important?

Dec 05, 2015 10:21 PM #251

@Crimsonorblue22 could leave him in to guard their center, then have mason, wiggins, seldon and perry.

Dec 05, 2015 10:22 PM #252

@DinarHawk we did, right? Selden

Dec 05, 2015 10:26 PM #253

@5541-james

Wish I could see them in practice.

I like a lot of the things Mick does except his out of control play that often leaves his man alone on the block for a simple put back

Hopefully it's a moot point by Christmas when Diallo and Brag are getting most of the minutes.

Dec 05, 2015 10:28 PM #254

@Crimsonorblue22 yes but Self always does it too late. Come out pressing start of second half and set the tone.

Dec 05, 2015 10:29 PM #255

@DinarHawk ok.

Dec 05, 2015 10:31 PM #256

@SoftballDad2011 Jessie n showed a couple of plays w/mick and then Perry, mick turned the wrong way, both times. Just one thing I heard.

Dec 05, 2015 10:31 PM #257

@Crimsonorblue22 should have made it a track meet today but never pressed Iun the second half. It will cost him again.

Dec 05, 2015 10:32 PM #258

@DinarHawk

I wish we used the transition game more too in this type of game.

But if we are hitting our FT and acting like we care on the boards this would have been a 25 point win w/out transition.

I think Self doesn't like letting them off the hook that easy when he knows his system should be working but that it isn't only because of execution.

Kind of like Mr Miagi........you do it until you get it right......wax on, wax off.

Dec 05, 2015 10:34 PM #259

@SoftballDad2011 I agree to a point, but this has been a problem for years. Playing fast fixes it.

Dec 05, 2015 10:34 PM #260

@DinarHawk I think using Lucas for rebounding slows our pressing and transition games down

Dec 05, 2015 10:37 PM #261

@DinarHawk

Good news is that we finally have the personnel, experience and depth this year to get thru it.

I don't think he minds making them work their way through these things......past couple of years it was a mistake because they lacked the leadership and resolve to fight through it......so they shut down in tough situations

This year's team will learn from it and grow.

Dec 05, 2015 10:38 PM #262

@Crimsonorblue22 Once Cheick gets more relaxed he will provide the rebounding and quick outlets.

Dec 05, 2015 10:38 PM #263

@brooksmd agree, we saw the "raw" today.

Dec 05, 2015 10:39 PM #264

@SoftballDad2011 I think he wanted Perry to play thru it, drove me nuts though, but I get it.

Dec 05, 2015 10:40 PM #265

Like not just rare off the grill raw.........but sushi raw!

Dec 05, 2015 10:43 PM #266

@SoftballDad2011 right, and we had the depth and talent in 2010, 2011, and 2014.

Dec 05, 2015 10:57 PM #267

@DinarHawk agree on 10 & 11.

I thought 14 had lots of players but was severely lacking in leadership (Black was a great leader, Nadir was an anti leader)........ Our best players seemed to defer responsibility when we needed them most. And we were severely lacking experience (Selden, Mason, Greene Wiggins Embiid (hurt) Frankamp ........) were all too young to get it. And aside from Frankamp lacked the handles and decision making to play fast. Frankamp had the handles and decision making to play fast but was a plodder who preferred a slow pace of play.

Dec 05, 2015 11:11 PM #268

@SoftballDad2011 anti leader.

Dec 05, 2015 11:23 PM #269

@SoftballDad2011 Frankamp couldn't play fast. He was never a push the tempo guy, he was only good at the methodical pace.

I wish Self would push tempo more because superior talent typically shines the more possessions they get, but Self's preferred style has always been the slower pace because that's how you have to play to win with kesser talent like he had at Oral Roberts, Tulsa, and early at Illinois. Self has never really adapted his system to having the superior talent and really taking advantage of it.

We see flashes of what KU could be in situations like Maui when KU doesn't have time to properly scout and gameplan and they have to rely more on execution of basic principles on defense. There is something to the KISS method (Keep it simple stupid) and its principles and it has proven to be very effective over the years.

Dec 05, 2015 11:33 PM #270

@Texas-Hawk-10

Great points.