Looks like we may miss a portion of the game as I doubt this So Miss/WKU game will end before 2:15.
Even Jethro Bodine could schedule better than ESPN.
For those with access, it is coming up on ESPN3.
11 minutes to go in a football game, when the guide says it should be bball highlights..
espn 3 better be better than last time...that's all I got to say 'bout dat...
They allot 3 hours for a college football game. Everyone knows college football games last 3.5-4 hours.
@wissoxfan83 Evidently ESPN ain't figured it out yet.
On the bright side, sure is a beauty down south today, eh?
@wissoxfan83 Wonderful.
Pardon me while I duck out so I can watch game on full screen. Be back after they switch to ESPN2.
SOmetimes ESPNnews will pick it up, but AZ-Gonz just started there as ESPN has the same issue.
That play will make HEM cringe
All the starters are wearing long grey socks except for Perry
Baylor about to get upset
or it leggings..
Matodor defense gives some bright young man a bragging rights move in AFH
@Second-Prize what r u watching it on?
Football game is about to end.
@wissoxfan83 OLE!!!!! LOL...
ESPN3 stayed live, it sounded like they honored Lynette Woodard during the break
Hooray, live TV
We need a cheick up
Immediately Cheick makes his presence felt
The cameraman was zooming in on a blonde woman awkwardly during the break on ESPN3 broadcast, ha.
Svi and Diallo look badass with the short sleeves
3 ball still working
Love the ball movement
@Crimsonorblue22 Running the zone ragged.
Wow Dg!
Selden's going to win some awards if he continues this.
Anyone think self doesn't like the 3?
Perfect pass
@wissoxfan83 He's already a finalist in the coveted "Jethro's MVP" awards...
I think Self likes dunks too
@wissoxfan83 me too
Thank you Harvard for switching to zone!!!
Love D too
Even DG getting in on the jam circus.
@wissoxfan83 better be!
@wissoxfan83 Absotively....RCJH...
Need to focus on throws!
Good d Lucas!
We need to improve our free throw defense.
Diallo has just tied Perry Ellis in career head fakes at KU.
Diallo not quite ready for that pass-yet!
@SoftballDad2011 That's a lot of names in the scorebook already. That's what I love about this team.
This team has so many weapons. Really liking how things are coming together.
If there is something to gripe about I guess it would be early rebounding?
Seems like the team is not even really in sync right now and we are up 14...
From watching it seems like this could get ugly for Harvard quick, and be a 100-50 type pf game..
Perry a lil short on shots
Did LL even jump for that attempt at the rebound?
Fran, I forget.....can you redshirt in the Ivy League?
I'll take Perry over niang
There it is, the press creating turnovers again.
Even though we are dominating them, this Harvard team is exposing a bit our weakness inside. We're getting stuffed a lot and being bailed out by fouls. We aren't converting many shots at the rim in other words expect on fast breaks.
Crimson has exploited our transition D a few times.
Great D there
IF that announcer was right on the shooting percentages at that point, we were shooting 50% on FG's, 3's, and FT's. How often has that happened.
Wayyyyy to much time on lil Fran
Our team is in an afternoon siesta right now.
Yea mari
Fran please don't say svi's last name again!
Last 6-7 minutes of the half was pretty rough
@Crimsonorblue22 The boys may have to put on their spare shorts after this half-time break. I'm sure HCBS will have some comments.
I had to rewind and hear him say it again!😳
@SoftballDad2011 Yep, forced shots and bad defense.
Harvard has been a tournament team and we are not playing badly for the most part but it just feels like if we finished at the rim more, and were a bit more in sync, this would and should be a blowout.
Well crap I just flagged somebody!
We've been playing so many, hard to maintain a rhythm too
Half time stats
@Second-Prize think I flagged u, sorry! Why 2nd prize and not 1st?
We looked pretty good through the middle portion. Last 6-7 mins, not so much.
A lot of lineup combos. Svi played a lot. My first look at Diallo. Needs to work on finishing better.
@Crimsonorblue22 He (she?) won 2nd prize in a beauty contest. and won 10 dollars.
Looks like the stats sheet has it right about LL. DNP
@wissoxfan83 :question:
@wissoxfan83 Somebody was wearing 33.
A few reasons for the moniker. It is a nickname for a character in a novel called Trainspotting, who is an example of athletic talent wasted, which I can relate to all too well.
I was also second born of fraternal twins.
I forget at this moment other reasons but there were more, ha.
@Second-Prize So you're the first loser? j/k
@wissoxfan83 had a board
@Second-Prize interesting!
@Crimsonorblue22 Boys gonna have to work more to get to their game point average.
There's ole 33
I love dg
@SoftballDad2011 now a foul
@SoftballDad2011 said:
@Crimsonorblue22 said:
@wissoxfan83 had a board
I think a FT and two FT attempts too
And one!
@Crimsonorblue22 Looks like LL.
Damn, Mason and Graham are sick...
Perry???
@Second-Prize Good thing we don't have to rely on the Commodore today.
@Crimsonorblue22 He is just totally off his game.
Rims are not being kind to us today either
So many missed opportunities
Nice!
Fran should not do harvards games or ours, just because I don't like him!
I'm about to put this game on mute, these announcers are terrible.
WS!!!
Guy on the Harvard bench is starting to irritate me after their 3s
HOw good would this harvard team be if they weren't missing 4 players to injury?
For being Harvard, somebody needs to tell the guy on the bench that looks really dumb!
@wissoxfan83 Fran's kid?
The focus level is very low right now. Very disappointing.
@wissoxfan83 guessing still not good.
FLAT FLAT FLAT - no energy since about the 12 minute mark of first half. 4-6 from 3 in the first 10 minutes - 0-3 since. Not finishing anything near the rim....
Is this a home game?
Where did the lil Fran's go to high school?
KU needs to get out and run
I take it back. If these guys don't get their act together we may need the Commodore.
Cheick!
Needed Diallo to cheick in.
Fran do not say svi's last name ever again!!
Man, Svi just got posterized..
Not liking our effort or attention to detail
@Second-Prize he should know that by now
@SoftballDad2011 Since the early run of turnovers, Harvard has totally out-executed us - and dominating down low.
Welcome to Bad Ball.
@wissoxfan83 Orange lost again.
Throws😡
I'm sure it's Coach Self's fault that we are missing shots not playing hard and can't rebound.
Can we go back to the middle of the first half team?
I'm going to have to edit my post from earlier this week about all the great stats this team has.
Great pass!
Hate that we are playing like crap, but not all bad that they are having to work at it......should be a good leaning point for them.
6-15 from FT line...
Free throws and rebounds, horrible.
@SoftballDad2011 MSU should've been all the learning point they needed.
Perry ugh
Self shouting at them to "show some emotion" out there..
Dude is playing like Ali F from UNI
@DinarHawk Coaching has nothing to do with all the misses by Perry.
@SoftballDad2011 figures
Reminds me of an NCAA tournament game
Help? See the dang ball
@DinarHawk because Self is telling to go out and play poorly?
Call a jump ball!
I just want to rip my eyes out.
@SoftballDad2011 who is the one that teaches them defense and rebounding? Is it the managers or the ball boy?
Now that we're doing poorly someone shows up on the message board.
And the fact that we have done just fine at those things for the past 5 games but can't do it today is on the coach?.....no that is execution or lack there of.
If we hadn't out rebounded Vandy's 7' era and out hustled UCLA I'd give you the point.
This is poor effort by the players on the court
Maybe we should start the conversation on how great this Harvard team is?
@wissoxfan83 and they are conversing w/ each other.....kind of like a person with multiple personalities?!??!?
Glad That Self taught Ellis that spin move in the huddle during that last time out
Good thing we have a deep bench
KU goes on a run. I'm calling it.
Nice Dg!
@SoftballDad2011 I hope you are not talking about me. My point is that I have seen this movie many times. Last year against WSU, year before against Stanford, Bucknell, and UNI.
Masooooooon!!
@DinarHawk change the channel maybe?
Its starting to rain in the PHog.
@DinarHawk Actually we see it so much even during the regular season it's almost a trait of KU bb.
I am. And if you dislike the director so much could could just stop going to his movies.
Hi all. Little late to the party.
I hate that Hyundai commercial. Just wanted to let everyone know
Busy with work but not looking so hot KU?
@SoftballDad2011 KUinLA was my intended target unfortunately, doesn't seem to have much positive to say.
Hmm 2 games in a row with poor FT.
@SoftballDad2011
My OCD says charge your phone!
Harvard Freshmen playing and playing us close on the road
@Crimsonorblue22 how many minutes for Diallo?
Because of performance?
HCBS needs to have them shoot ft's until they puke at the words free throw.
@Crimsonorblue22
She does actually... lol
Perry did not guard that shot at all.
Sad to say, I'll be moving out of KC this weekend.
wish Lucas would dunk
FTs make them #%%£|€{ $)(/&; <>{}#***^%>
Don't understand that last offensive possession.
@Crimsonorblue22
Back to Chicago.
Jamari in
KU hits their free throws coming down the stretch. I believe, I believe, I believe.
We got this.
I think Dg is a leader
There's 1
@Crimsonorblue22 both.
@SoftballDad2011 No - still hoping he will figure out how to win UNI like games in the tournament. The key is to play fast and use your athleticism. If he would have done that for the entire second half, we beat Stanford and UNI by 15.
Good grief at least try to kill a few seconds
And only 1... this next pair can be win or lose
@DinarHawk we r winning
@DinarHawk I don't disagree.
@DinarHawk play fast w/Tarik at 5 w/foul trouble?
Who was that headed to the locker room already
@Crimsonorblue22 obviously you would change personnel.
Ball game. Alright Rock Chalk.
See you Gal and guys next time.
If you were HCBS would any of you go with Lucas over Mickelson ? I will never understand why HCBS does not play Mickelson more. He's bigger has better hands and has better overall post skills than Lucas.
@DinarHawk suggestions?
Ugly, but a win. RCJH!
I won't say it's been real fun, but nice to spend time with you all during these games. My wife won't talk to me about basketball so you're all I've got!
@Crimsonorblue22 Fan with a jersey on...
@wissoxfan83 happy to talk ball with you man!
@Crimsonorblue22 press at the first sign of trouble. Switch to small lineup. Sub often. UNI would have been gassed after 10 or 15 minutes.
Ugly game!
@DinarHawk needed Tarik against Stanford
@Crimsonorblue22 could leave him in to guard their center, then have mason, wiggins, seldon and perry.
@DinarHawk we did, right? Selden
Wish I could see them in practice.
I like a lot of the things Mick does except his out of control play that often leaves his man alone on the block for a simple put back
Hopefully it's a moot point by Christmas when Diallo and Brag are getting most of the minutes.
@Crimsonorblue22 yes but Self always does it too late. Come out pressing start of second half and set the tone.
@DinarHawk ok.
@SoftballDad2011 Jessie n showed a couple of plays w/mick and then Perry, mick turned the wrong way, both times. Just one thing I heard.
@Crimsonorblue22 should have made it a track meet today but never pressed Iun the second half. It will cost him again.
I wish we used the transition game more too in this type of game.
But if we are hitting our FT and acting like we care on the boards this would have been a 25 point win w/out transition.
I think Self doesn't like letting them off the hook that easy when he knows his system should be working but that it isn't only because of execution.
Kind of like Mr Miagi........you do it until you get it right......wax on, wax off.
@SoftballDad2011 I agree to a point, but this has been a problem for years. Playing fast fixes it.
@DinarHawk I think using Lucas for rebounding slows our pressing and transition games down
Good news is that we finally have the personnel, experience and depth this year to get thru it.
I don't think he minds making them work their way through these things......past couple of years it was a mistake because they lacked the leadership and resolve to fight through it......so they shut down in tough situations
This year's team will learn from it and grow.
@Crimsonorblue22 Once Cheick gets more relaxed he will provide the rebounding and quick outlets.
@SoftballDad2011 I think he wanted Perry to play thru it, drove me nuts though, but I get it.
Like not just rare off the grill raw.........but sushi raw!
@SoftballDad2011 right, and we had the depth and talent in 2010, 2011, and 2014.
@DinarHawk agree on 10 & 11.
I thought 14 had lots of players but was severely lacking in leadership (Black was a great leader, Nadir was an anti leader)........ Our best players seemed to defer responsibility when we needed them most. And we were severely lacking experience (Selden, Mason, Greene Wiggins Embiid (hurt) Frankamp ........) were all too young to get it. And aside from Frankamp lacked the handles and decision making to play fast. Frankamp had the handles and decision making to play fast but was a plodder who preferred a slow pace of play.
@SoftballDad2011 anti leader.
@SoftballDad2011 Frankamp couldn't play fast. He was never a push the tempo guy, he was only good at the methodical pace.
I wish Self would push tempo more because superior talent typically shines the more possessions they get, but Self's preferred style has always been the slower pace because that's how you have to play to win with kesser talent like he had at Oral Roberts, Tulsa, and early at Illinois. Self has never really adapted his system to having the superior talent and really taking advantage of it.
We see flashes of what KU could be in situations like Maui when KU doesn't have time to properly scout and gameplan and they have to rely more on execution of basic principles on defense. There is something to the KISS method (Keep it simple stupid) and its principles and it has proven to be very effective over the years.
Great points.