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HC Openings for Our KU Assistants
Feb 22, 2017 05:40 PM #1

On another link, board rats indicated NC State, Illinois and washington would be opening up. Surely Self's assistants will land one of those jobs!!!!!!

Norm and Kurtis are soooooooooo ready!!!!!

Imagine what Norm could do at Illinois.

And Kurtis knows the PNW better than the guys up there do!!!!!

Feb 22, 2017 05:42 PM #2

Which poses the question if it happens, who would we want to come in as new assistants?

Feb 22, 2017 06:08 PM #3

@jaybate-1.0

Very difficult for and Assistant Coach, even from an Elite program, to get a HC job at another big program (HC RoyWilliams being one of the rare ones). Typically they have to work their way up like Manning, Hasse, Dooley, Jancovich...and I could go on...

Feb 22, 2017 06:55 PM #4

@JayHawkFanToo Norm might be an exception, having already coached at St Johns. And with KT being 59, despite having worked at KU for 13 years, I doubt anyone is going to take a chance on him. His alma mater Western Ky passed on him last year, and that was his dream job.

Unless Self wants him to go, I don't know if it makes sense for him to not just ride the HCBS train into retirement. He is making probably $350-$400K per year (last I found was 2013 listing that said $340K). Most small schools might give him a raise to $500K or even $600K, but the security might be iffy if he has to rebuild a no-name.

Interesting idea: What if Marsh gets tapped to go to NCState, and WSU hired a KU assistant? Could bury some hatchets, resurrect the series, and lay lots of crap to rest between the schools.

Feb 22, 2017 09:00 PM #5

@mayjay I personally enjoy the animosity between the schools. Almost feels like we have a rival. I sure don't feel the same animosity between us and KSU. Would be more fun every time we met if there was a little more hatred.

Feb 22, 2017 09:17 PM #6

@Kcmatt7 Yeah, rivalry would be great. It was easy with Quinn at MU, as it is with Squeaky. Maybe I spoke too quickly--it would be rather mean to a KU ass't to place them with a hated school so we end up hating them, too. Let's have one get a job down here in SEC country instead so KU will come play here.

Feb 28, 2017 02:14 AM #7

@BShark clearly the next assistant coach (and the next head coach) is Tyler Self.

Feb 28, 2017 02:31 AM #8

Marshall has turned down better jobs than NC State, he's not leaving Wichita to be #3 on Tobacco Road. Norm had a shot at St. John's and it didn't go too well so I doubt he would get a better offer than St. John's if he gets another HC opportunity. Townsend's age will keep him from any P5 caliber job. Howard would be the only one who might leave KU in the near future, and he is an Illinois alum so there's always a chance, but Illinois has a history of hiring mid major coaches and not P5 assistants.

Mar 01, 2017 12:31 AM #9

@jaybate-1.0 None of them can leave til they hang another National Championship banner in AFH

Mar 01, 2017 01:28 AM #10

Reading into senior night comments and Howard's current farewell tour (seemibgly) on twitter, he might be gone.

Anyone else reading into this the same?

Mar 01, 2017 01:28 AM #11

@Lulufulu That could be soon!

Mar 01, 2017 02:09 AM #12

@CaptnMo That was my impression too. The players were saying goodbye to Howard in more ways than one.

Mar 01, 2017 04:03 AM #13

@CaptnMo said:

Howard’s current farewell tour (seemingly) on twitter

????

Mar 01, 2017 04:09 AM #14

@mayjay looks like he is saying bye to a lot of people but most of them seem to be seniors so maybe he is just giving them
Shout outs since they didn't get big speech in AFG?

Mar 01, 2017 04:14 AM #15

Does anyone think Jerrance Howard has what it takes to be a Div. 1 head coach? We are talking about Snacks.

Mar 01, 2017 04:19 AM #16

@ralster no he's definitely not ready for that. But he can recruit and maybe he's ready for new tutelage?

Mar 01, 2017 04:38 AM #17

@ralster Yes, but not anywhere out of a big city. He should maximally leverage his recruiting experience, contacts and access--Chi-town!

Mar 01, 2017 05:03 AM #18

Players genuinely like him and confide in him.

Mar 01, 2017 05:17 AM #19

I briefly looked at Snacks' twitter and just saw him saying goodbye to the senior managers and the senior players... Nothing stood out as indication he was going anywhere.. Did I miss something?

Mar 01, 2017 05:27 AM #20

@mayjay @mayjay

Do we really know how much coaching or if he does any at all? I got the impression that he did a lot of recruit visits and as @Crimsonorblue22 indicated helps the kids off the court but not necessarily a lot of coaching.

Mar 01, 2017 05:34 AM #21

@JayHawkFanToo I didn't mean he didn't do any coaching. I believe he does.

Mar 01, 2017 05:36 AM #22

If he helps the kids with off the court stuff. Here's to hoping things improve in that Dept. For the foreseeable future. This year has been rough in that area. Although, I admit, as much as I hate to... It seems as though someone really does have it out for this group. Sticks in my crawl...

Mar 01, 2017 05:39 AM #23

I didn't mean "off the court stuff" like that. I meant he's a coach they can talk too, confide in.

Mar 01, 2017 06:02 AM #24

@Crimsonorblue22

I was only referring to having a good relationship with the players and not the...not coaching much...part.

Mar 01, 2017 06:13 AM #25

Well, eventhough I've questioned Snack's coaching credibility, I dont wish him ill. It will be interesting to see what he can make of his career.

I have seen him routinely saying stuff to players just coming out of the game, back to the bench. I do think its neat he may know from his Illini days as a player, what Coach Self wants. He could voice it easily, and maybe easier to relate to for some of the KU kids, compared to Bill Self. Just a thought--but this is the only thing that would make him able to function as an asst on Self's bench.

Mar 01, 2017 02:26 PM #26

Anyone who doesn't think Snacks deserves to be on the staff seriously underestimates Bill's ability to find good assistants. Howard is looked at as one of the better young assistants in the country. His ability to recruit automatically sets him up for a future HC job and we are lucky to have him. On top of that, I'm confident a man who played 4 years of D1 basketball knows the game well enough to teach players. Especially when working under Bill and Larry, it would be hard to think he hasn't learned a few things.

Mar 01, 2017 02:30 PM #27

I Like Coach Howard, feel he gets a lot of unnecessary criticism thrown his way for one incident. His recruiting is starting to pay off and he's still young enough to relate to this generation of kids. I see no reason why he won't continue to pull his weight as an Assistant here.

Mar 01, 2017 02:33 PM #28

If Townsend, or Norm leave, bring back Miles. He did wonders working with Frank and Devonte.

Mar 01, 2017 02:36 PM #29

@wrwlumpy when Townsend did hawktalk he said he loves this job! I can't ever see him leaving. I think we bury the 3 of them together.

Mar 01, 2017 11:20 PM #30

I THINK NO ASSISTANTS IS GONING NOWERE

Mar 02, 2017 12:14 AM #31

@ralster said:

Does anyone think Jerrance Howard has what it takes to be a Div. 1 head coach? We are talking about Snacks.

He'll get a shot someday pretty soon. Probably mid to low major level. He's young and he's been on staff with both Self and Brown so he's learned some things. I could see get a Missouri Valley job in the near future.

Mar 02, 2017 02:02 AM #32

@Texas-Hawk-10

Bradley?

Mar 02, 2017 02:17 AM #33

@jaybate-1.0 no😉

Mar 02, 2017 04:02 AM #34

@approxinfinity I understand this to be at least partly in jest, but has anyone else noticed how Tyler will occasionally leave the bench, right after a timeout, say, and have a quick chat with the refs? I just saw it in Austin, but one of my friends said that he had noticed Tyler doing this in other games, as well.