just read off Zags Blog site, KU is the Las Vegas odds to win the tourney.
Odds: - -KU 8-1 - - -Villanova & UNC 9-1 - -Gonzaga , Duke , Kentucky 10-1 - -UCLA & Arizona 12-1- - Louisville 16-1 - -& Oregon 20-1.
There you have it my friends - - So let it be written - - So let it be done - -TEAM RAGE - - time to - - -GET-ER-DONE - - --ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
ESPN been touting Duke as the favorites in Vegas btw
@BeddieKU23 Really? Every time I've seen them post the odds, North Carolina was the betting favorite. I don't know if that's changed as of this morning, but as of last night, it had been UNC.
Everything I saw shows Duke favored, and then Kansas, UNC, and Kentucky all sharing the same odds.
Pretty sure ESPN was showing Duke at 5/1 in Vegas. If its changed since I haven't seen. Showed KU, UNC, Kentucky, Nova in that 6-8/1 region after.. I honestly have no idea which Vegas line is best to use or if its a general "vegas line" generated
LOVE KU's draw. No excuses.
@BeddieKU23 I think you have Duke and UNC flipped. Duke's odds have gotten better because of their ACC tournament run, but it was UNC as the betting favorite for awhile.
I know KU has been pretty consistent with their odds throughout the year. I put $20 on KU to win when I was in Vegas and KU was 6.5/1 to win.
@Texas-Hawk-10 said:
@BeddieKU23 I think you have Duke and UNC flipped. Duke's odds have gotten better because of their ACC tournament run, but it was UNC as the betting favorite for awhile.
I know KU has been pretty consistent with their odds throughout the year. I put $20 on KU to win when I was in Vegas and KU was 6.5/1 to win.
Bracketology also showed Duke 5-1 last night.. Not that it matters who's the favorite.
@BeddieKU23 Duke had not been the favorite, that's happened in the last 12 hours. Before the brackets were revealed, UNC had been around 5/1, KU and Kentucky had been around 7/1 and Duke had been around 10/1 and bettering their odds with each ACC Tournament win.
Money has swung from one ACC team to the next. No big deal..
If I was a casino owner I'd be happy with people putting money on Duke to win it all. Esp. If a Lehigh shows up.
Duke propelled themselves into the limelight by winning 4 games in 4 days, including a win against UNC.
Plus... they are now healthy and a couple of their star freshman are coming on.
This is not the same team we beat early on.
ISU fans seem to think they are the favourite. Certainly they will not be losing to KU, be it because they beat KU or KU loses to Mia/MSU. EE minimum for ISU according to 99% of their fanbase.
@drgnslayr Dook doesn't have a point guard. if Tatum scores, he is just taking away a bucket from Kennard, or Jefferson. They won't beat Villanova.
Hey... I hope Duke doesn't win and it will be tough without a true PG. But... they have so much firepower with sneaky players like Kennard and Allen.
Their Achilles heel has always been defense, and their defense is looking better with their big freshmen playing well.
They will be dangerous because they have a very different team from everyone else. Same can be said of WSU. I'm just thankful both of these teams have a tough road ahead of them before we could meet.
@drgnslayr i think it will be a distinct advantage for us if the Clones knock off Purdue. We could still beat the Boiler Makers, but I'd rather play the Clones ... easier match up for our front line. Plus, I wouldn't want to have to play zone against Swanigan, and show Pitino what we are planning on doing to him. If louie has to shoot from the outside, they suck. Zones give them fits. Shooting anything outside of 10 feet from the basket normally is a real challenge for Louie.
The bulk of ESPN brackets have KU vs Nova in the championship game. Around 33% have either KU or Nova in the title. With KU vs Nova being the most popular pick.
FWIW
I was just wondering when and where does Missouri play?
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I know you follow the Big-10 to a default because of Wisky but is Purdue really that good? I've watched a lot of their games.
Strengths- obviously 1 really good player (Swangian), 3 point shooting as a team, Chemistry. Carson Edwards is a future stud in the conference after Biggie leaves and his scoring off the bench balances out the starters.
Weaknesses- Rebounding, defense (dictated by style of play). In games where the tempo is fast Purdue gives up a lot of points. Reliance on Swanigan being the offense.
Overall I see a team that at its best can hang with most teams in the country. Haas hasn't been as good this year which I believe keeps them from being as dominate a team as they could be. I don't feel as though one player can beat KU and we obviously have the advantage in the backcourt which is important.. Interested to hear your take
Heard there's a backyard league they entered but drew a #7 seed.
@BeddieKU23 Between Ku and Wiscy games, there's just not much time to watch other games. So I saw Purdue play Nova pretty tough earlier in the season, but lost at home, and then watched them dismantle the Badgers, back when UW was coasting along quite nicely. Purdue has been inconsistent. Not sure the reasons why. But what I saw was their size was just too much for UW. I'm a little worried by their size.
I think its a positive that KU has played imposing front-lines this season with success (Baylor, Kentucky). Landen knows what to do, Josh Jackson really does an admiral job on any 4 he matchups against. We saw how weak our interior defense was without him against TCU who had a plethora of bigs to throw at us.. I like that Purdue's defense has been poor when an opposing team plays a faster tempo which also favors KU
@dylans Ya, I just got through filling out my guazillon brackets from different sites - -see if I can't win SOMETHING - -besides the laughing stock on my picks award lol , I actually pick KU vs Villanova multiple times. - -seems like you say to be a pretty popular pick. -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@nuleafjhawk Roflmao, now you stop that lol. - -Missery worked really , really hard to get their 6 wins lmao. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
There really isn't a "Vegas" line since each betting place has its own odds and they change continuously depending on the money wagered. Vegas Insider usually list the odds for the main sports books for each specific game and also the starting line and average. KSU is a 1 point favorite over Wake Forest; no line on KU yet until the opponent has been determined but I would guess 14-18 point is likely.
Here are the latest odds:
ESPN flashed some source in Vegas giving all 4 1-seed's chance of winning NC: Gonzaga 16%. Villanova 15%. UNC 15%. Kansas 6%.
I'd think most of that is TCU-game effect. Not good for a 1-seed to get their ass bounced by a nonTourney team in their own league, on which they have the scout and no excuse (other than the big elephant about Josh sidelined, which only 1 announcer mentioned). Its what those short stocky beer gut biz guys on the east coast think, anything to berate KU's chances. KU is barely tolerable in the Final 4 because of the whole blueblood/highlight reel Josh/NPOY storylines. 13straight has sweetened the coverage a bit. Vitale going the extra mile about KU these days. And BIFM personally made Fraschilla pay respect.
Our guys simply have to go take whatever prize is their's. Despite the bias. Despite the ref calls. Despite taking everybody's best shot.
This is Frank'sRun.
Is it possible that you (with your "guazillon" brackets) are single-handedly skewing the odds? (Smile)
Here is a site where you can get percentages for each team by round, ↗ Just place your cursor over the team you want to check and it will show you the path to the Title with the chances of wining as a percentage
@ralster ya I was watching some of the Bracketology on ESPNU and of course their all saying KU will be the first # 1 out - -- then it shows that we are the weakest # 1 seed, - -now I get this I fully understand our # 8-9 are both pretty good team - -Coach Izzo, love the guy & then Miami - --but still I'm not scared of either of those match ups.
Possibly matching up with Iowa St again - -all I have to say with that is - - BRING IT - -Purdue ya they have some bigs - but how they gonna match up with our 4 out 1 in?
Louisville - - very stiff test -hell ya very big Game - -we have played bigger with this group - or at least as good - - -Duke, Kentucky - - -then they have to bring up all the off court issues, how that can hurt us, not concentrate. I dunno - -just not really giving us much of a chance - -that's cool I'll take my chances with these guys. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@jayballer54 Quit paying attention to ESPN. None of them give flip about KU.
According to how the NCAA seeded this tournament, KU has the weakest 2, 4, 5, 6, and second weakest 7 and 9 seeds.
Villanova is the 1 seed in the most danger of not getting out of the weekend, especially if they end up playing Wisconsin in the second round because Wisconsin may not be as good as previous years, but they still have a ton of experience and and play pretty good team defense. They won't be intimidated by Villanova at all.
@jayballer54 try checking the Vegas odds
Amen to that. People forget the KU is the overall #2 seed and not the weakest #1 seed as some are portraying it.
Puke will go down 2d or 3d round, mark it. They are done.
The Gonzaga boys have no idea what they're doing. They will be the first #1 seed out.
UNC has potential, but I don't think they have the stamina to stay too long.
The only two experienced and capable teams are Nova and KU. We both have our problems, but overall, have what it takes to go the distance.