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Alex smith! Hope Eric Berry didn't tear his Achilles!

Crimsonorblue22 said:

Hope Eric Berry didn't tear his Achilles!

I hope so too, if only hope mattered. REEEEEALLY looked like he did. :(

This ESPN article is Patriots centric, but is not without it's due props for the Chiefs. Glad to see the Patriots get their asses handed to them.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/20624359/new-england-patriots-got-humbling-loss-probably-needed ↗

Great win. Great start to the season. Alex Smith was the man. But, 4 hours to play a game. Come on now. The families who attended the game were driving home at 1 am. I thought the NFL was trying to keep game times down to 3 hours.

@stoptheflop Well a 42-28 win is a lot of points and a lot of clock stoppage. I would rather have it be that exciting than a 10-7 win that lasts 3 hours.

@Crimsonorblue22 I just hope that the prognosis is good and he can maybe get back by the end of the season.

At least he played this game. We needed him to handle Gronk.

Sorensen is as good of a backup as any team has and should be able to fill Berry's spot against lesser teams with TEs not named Gronk just fine.

With that being said, not going out and getting Hayden also looks like a bad move at this point.

How about those Chiefs! Hadnt seen much of preseason, wondered about offense with B- o-line that Alex has been saddled with for yrs, and now without Maclin...but I guess we can call Hill + Hunt "deep" threats, and they're multidimensional threats all over the field. Kelce is a threat at any range, now drawing doubleteams. What a find Hunt is.

I have to say, KCs O-line may be flirting with an A- rating, but we have only 1 game...BUT when has Alex had this kind of time??? Ha! Look what happens when he does, to all those stupid Alex haters in KC. You could be Denver fans rt now and go to battle with Simeon & OsweilerChpt2?

Check Alex's stats by season's end. And I like Mahomes, but his time will come: Kliff Kingsbury said it best: perfect situation for Mahomes, learn from one of the best: Alex, Reid. Dont throw him to the wolves.

Go KC! My thoughts go out to Berry. Achilles tear is season-ending for him, and changes the KC D.

Speaking of Denver, I do like many of their players, heard that Talib is out with "Achilles", and Jamaal Charles is out with "knee". Not sure what either's details, but I feel bad for those 2 guys, great players...

"The reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated" - Alex Smith

Great game for the Chiefs that hopefully sets the tone for the season.

A couple of interesting observations...Looked like Brady had so much time to throw; he would stand by himself for what it seemed a long time and could pick where to throw, Smith appeared to be under constant pressure and still managed to find receivers.

Penalties: Chiefs - 15-139, Patriots - 6-55. Seems pretty lopsided to me; are the Patriots the Duke of the NFL?

Peters did great job being lockdown/shutdown DB. He just needs to avoid negative PR regarding that whole sitting during NatlAnthem. Maybe he need to look at his PR-nightmare buddy, Kaepernick, out of a job, as his Castro stupidity served NO cause that he was trying to champion. You can easily say that minority rights as a cause could truly use a far better celebrity proponent...than the idiot Kaep proved himself to be.

Goodell says NFL "not blackballing" Kaep, & teams ea make their own personnel decisions. Nobody wants their "team leader"/face of franchise to be this Colin Kaeprnick dude.

Jesus christ, why isnt the standard for behavior for nfl qb's people like Drew Brees, Alex Smith, T.Brady, that Falcons QB? And a long list of past nfl greats? Peters better take notes, we can send him packing too, just a DB, not a franchise face like a QB.

Play PR games with a half-billion $ entity like an nfl franchise, & see what the ownership will say, then do...go ahead, nfl playa, its only your own few years long career at stake, right?

@JayHawkFanToo I feel like Alex has happy feet which makes him look more under pressure than he really is a lot of times. He does a horrible job sliding in the pocket.

With that being said, I'm a big Smith fan and I hope they Franchise him and make Mahomes learn at least one more season.

A lot of this win was Andy Reid. Especially the first half where Alex was really not great but Andy did a lot of schemin and had multiple gotcha type plays. It's easy to not appreciate Andy because he has never won a super bowl but that was an incredible gameplan last night.

@BShark Big Bob Sutton had a great game plan too. Took Gronk out completely. I also love that he has a strong side. Forces the opponent to only play on half of the field. He also waited until the O-Line got tired and Patriots were desperate for points before he unleashed a fresh Houston who wasn't wasting energy rushing the passer when he was getting double teamed by the TE or RB.

Also, the DLine rotation was amazing. A fresh Jones, Logan and Roach is as good of a defensive front rotation as you can ask for. Allen Bailey being back is a huge help as well. If you notice, when Brady got in his funk, it was when the D had a chance to catch their breath and we were getting a push up the middle so he couldn't step into throws.

Reid did do a great job game planning though, agreed. It helps when you have 2 guys like Tyreek and Kelce who are head and shoulders above anyone you can use to defend them. And, they are both versatile enough that you can put them all over the field. How do you defend that? The Tyreek-Kelce twins stack on Tyreeks td is a defensive coordinators nightmare. You HAVE to put two CBs and a safety over the top no matter what. And even that might not be enough as we saw last night with the safety biting on Kelce letting Tyreek run free. If you don't bite on Kelce, you are basically giving us 10 yards, if you can tackle Kelce 1v1. That also means that there are only 6 or 7 guys in the box and we can run the ball.

Overall, I think that Kelce and Hill's health are the keys to a great season. If Conley can step up even a little more, and Alex can be 80% of what he was last night, this Chiefs team may very well be the best team in the conference.

Of course it also depends on how the secondary responds to not having Berry for 15 more games. I think between Murray and Sorenson, we might be able to get by though.

Agree. They made Brady throw into tight windows. I was defending Sutton early in the game on other boards too. Berry was a big part of taking out Gronk and unfortunately he is out for the year now. Really the only negative about last night.

Add Hunt to Hill and Kelce. That kid is a weapon and a great fit for Andy's offense.

@BShark I think he will be a stud. I just don't think he has the same versatility. Not sure he can go lineup as a WR and be effective. Yet. That long TD catch shows how much trust even Smith has in him as a pass catcher though so I could be wrong.

Go Chiefs! What's up espn? Fix it!

Just when the Chiefs had fooled almost everyone, they resume regular operations. Carry on.

Oline problems are real. Too many injuries.

As you watch the game know that Redskins RB Robert Kelley 'Fat Rob' is a former student of mine. Incredibly proud of him!

wissox said:

As you watch the game know that Redskins RB Robert Kelley 'Fat Rob' is a former student of mine. Incredibly proud of him!

That's awesome.

@wissox really cool

Nice td dance kelce!

Tie it up here

Alex! Neck ok?

Kicker has one job...

@BShark maybe not now

Chiefs!!❤️💛🏉 undefeated!!

What a damn game.

I was ready to fire butt-kicker dot com after his first miss, but he nailed his last 3 attempts.

dylans said:

I was ready to fire butt-kicker dot com after his first miss, but he nailed his last 3 attempts.

Kid was money at GT. I like the Chiefs strategy of having kickers that cost next to nothing. They are def overpaying Colquitt so it balances out. At least Colquitt is generally good.

@BShark I think you can get a good kicker off the street. Soccer players are all over the place. Kickers are not worth paying unless they can consistently hit 60 yarders in any scenario.

A punter though, not everywhere. And not one who can both flip field position AND pin you inside the 20 is rare. A Punter is very undervalued position.

Colquit is nice. A weapon even, under Herm...

Having a poor kicker sucks. It's terrible to lose a football game for non football reasons (kicking). The playoff game against Indy that the Chiefs kicker, Lin Elliot, missed from 35, 39, and 42 yards in a 10-7 loss makes me think kickers are overly important given they don't play football. Kicking is it's own mini-game within the game.

@dylans

Unfortunately, there are only really maybe 5-6 good kickers at any given time. The rest have some very obvious limitations that will rear their head at the most inopportune times.

dylans said:

Colquit is nice. A weapon even, under Herm...

Having a poor kicker sucks. It's terrible to lose a football game for non football reasons (kicking). The playoff game against Indy that the Chiefs kicker, Lin Elliot, missed from 35, 39, and 42 yards in a 10-7 loss makes me think kickers are overly important given they don't play football. Kicking is it's own mini-game within the game.

Fortunately the Chiefs have had solid kickers since Succop.

Amazing to discuss Chiefs' kicker issues without mentioning Jan Stenerud...cough cough...Miami....Christmas Day ... ahem ... two overtimes....(choking to death, expires).....

What a nice come from behind victory. Also Alex is playing at a high level. Go Chiefs.

@AsadZ not a good start by the defense! Thought it was going to be a long pm.

@Crimsonorblue22 Perhaps they were too juiced up for MNF :)

Go Chiefs! @Texas-Hawk-10 and my brother and son are there. Texas hawk probably not rooting for chiefs.😳

@KUSTEVE probably not too happy about this L.

Texans fans are like unicorns but supposedly they exist.

@BShark he's a Houston fan? Talking about injuries!

@Crimsonorblue22 Body bag game tonight. :frowning2:

@BShark The results don't surprise me. I think the Chiefs are the best team in football.

@BShark Watching Conley's Achilles rupture was brutal. Esp. since it was in garbage time. Watching Deshaun pad his stats was gross (in garbage time). Wtf D, don't quit early.

@dylans Would you prefer Watson lay down on the field and quit because they're behind?

@KUSTEVE there's always the ole injury reason. They were dropping like flies w/serious ones!

@Crimsonorblue22 We lost our best player, our difference maker, for the year. That wasn't the Texans padding the stats; that was the Texans coming together as a group to not give up, even though they were way down. The loss of the captain of the team ... there's very few players that can do what JJ Watt can do, and I think the guys wanted to keep fighting as hard as possible until the final whistle.

@KUSTEVE I didn't think of anything as padding stats last night. They genuinely were trying to win the game. Hell, if that catch is in the endzone and not the 1 yard line, there is still a chance for them to win. And, I felt that there should have been at least 2 seconds left on the clock after the last play. Enough time for a recovery and a hail mary...

Chiefs once again ( Chefs) layn the egg 🍳 at home vs Steelers. Andy should lhave taken the FG with th 12 ticks remaining . Even my dumb ass can see with Pitt ball control KC will run outta time even if it genius ball overcomes idiot 💩 . Remember it's da Squaws uh um, da Chefs .... they still suck & will now be MUCH worse without GM Dorsey. Clark may know Superman but he doesn't know shit about football 🏈 Change his name to Zack & give him a soccer team he may just st be a winner

Crap game but the ending was even worse.

@BShark Time to do some of your "magical" global moderator response damage control magic cause they may look like Chiefs but play like pussies . Need to trade Peterrs & Kelcie NOW while their value is high & their intelligence level is extremely low. They are both freak athletes but clearly major league idiots. Reid's pedigree is a flippen misery (MU) has been (choker.) Zackly (ethnic alphabet) why they ran his fat ass outta Philly. Hunts just way too stupid to shove him outta KC. Clearly he fired the wrong damn guy. Time will prove us right. Reid sucked at misery, couldn't win the big one at Philly, & will never take a KC team to win a championship in the NFL. Bridesmaids is the best they'll ever be.

@globaljaybird Maybe calm down?

It seemed as if Chiefs were looking forward to TNF, came out totally flat on both ends. Hopefully this loss will ignite some fire for a long run from here on out

AsadZ said:

It seemed as if Chiefs were looking forward to TNF, came out totally flat on both ends. Hopefully this loss will ignite some fire for a long run from here on out

It's a bad match-up tbh with all the defensive speed the Steelers have.

I understand although Chiefs could have been more creative on Offense, move Smith around a bit. They made some adjustments in H2. Steelers came in and punched us in the mouth by their running game, I am disappointed in that aspect.

@AsadZ Kind of discouraging that the DC came out and said they won't change anything if they play the Steelers again.

@BShark He needs to watch the film

@BShark Well, yeah. We'll tell them that. :wink:

Not sure if anyone is watching KC currently but former KU standout CB Dexter Macdonald has started the second and done a solid job thus far.

Watching

Chiefs are the only team I have ever seen that constantly tries tackling without using their arms. And, the only team I have ever seen that routinely drops the secondary back 5 yds beyond the 1st down line on 4th down pass defense.

With their defense playing this badly, they deserved to lose both last week and this week. Very unhappy rest of season if they don't get the secondary straightened out.

Bye bye Cubbies, incidentally.

Kansas City had better get their secondary figured out fast, they are extremely lucky Cooper had 5 drops most of which were wide open or the game ain't even close down the stretch. They stink at tackling and just look small and underpower in the front 7.

@kjayhawks didn't even try to address the position this offseason. Gaines shouldn't be in the NFL. Murray and Sorenson can't cover a TE. Peters is just doing whatever he feels like. Its ugly.

@Kcmatt7 I love Berry but the dudes spend more time on the IR than on the field. That's why they should've gotten a better back up and drafted some DBs.

@kjayhawks Dorsey's refusal to use the Franchise Tag has always dumbfounded me. Did the same thing with Houston. Last year on contract, he takes the "prove it" stance. And then follows that up without franchise tagging them and forcing them to keep proving that they should be worth an outrageous contract.

The Defense was terrible last night. Phillip Gaines is horrible. I would be able to complete a pass against his sorry coverage. But Alex lost the game when he couldn’t engineer a drive to eat up the clock.

I’m still cheesed at the ending of the Oakland KC game.

@dylans Not the defense giving up a 4th and 11 that would have won the game? Or the blatant pass interference not called on Oakland's first TD? Or the phantom illegal contact on Allen Bailey's incredible strip? Or the late hit on Peter's that wasn't late that led to a Raider's score? Or the offensive line again not being able to run for 100 yards? Or the defense giving up over 400 yards passing? Or that the Defense had 0 sacks last night?

Nope. It was Alex's fault that he couldn't complete a 3rd and 4 pass with 3 minutes left when the rest of the game he converted on half of his 3rd downs, completed 70% of his passes, threw for 342 yards and 3 TDs.

Screw it. Bench him. Put in Mahomes. It doesn't even matter that Alex is putting up MVP numbers. He SUCKS.

I don't even know why Oakland tried running plays when the passing was wide...and I mean WIDE open. Even Bender would have had a field day passing. :smiley:

My brother is a huge Chiefs fan, and he was telling me about all the Chiefs fans crying and whining about the game and once again trying to blame Alex Smith for the loss.

I just had to laugh and he agreed. - These kind of fans are the type of fans that are never satisfied. - -Like I told him if they want to find the REAL reason for the loss all any fan has to do is go to ESPN. COM go to NFL and pull up the stats, these things DO NOT LIE. . .blame your defense - -they can't cover a cold. - -Dead Last in the NFL out of 32 teams - -KC is dead last. - -ranked 31'st against the pass - -teams yardage per completion right at 8 yds - -gives you plenty of options, 2nd - -30th against the run out of 32 teams - teams averaging 5 yds per carry. - -News Flash your not going to win a lot of games with a defense like that. - -

Don't think Alex can help any on that side of the ball. - -Don't try and blame Alex . Smith has the 5th best overall QB rating in the Entire NFL, that includes being rated higher then Matt Ryan from Atlanta - & my own now disabled Aaron Rogers. - -I think most people would take that. - -Still no interceptions. - -KC is # 1 in the entire NFL on offense - --IT'S NOT ALEX SMITH. -People want to bitch about play selection - -That's not Smith, that's your Coaching staff - -your offensive Cordinator.

They Call the plays in - -Alex runs those plays - -oh sure he can change the play - -BUT if the coach calls the play - Alex overrides it and it craps - like throwing and INT from his own play call or a fumble , or gets thrown for a huge loss - -that turns into Alex ass - the Coach going to be all over him wondering why the hell he overrode/changed their play Call. - -Their last series 3 rushes in a row. That's not Alex - -last time I checked he wasn't anywhere on the O-line to make that block, move the D-Lineman to clear the hole.

Don't give the lame ass excuse that stink weed the rookie could come in and do better, oh sure that sounds good now - - he is a damn rookie , your not finding hardly any rookies that can come right in from the start. - - -He is still learning the read the defense/coverages. - -Big difference between looking good in exhibition games when most the time you have guys other rookies and undrafted trying to make the roster, then the regular season against Veterans.

All you have to do is just look it up - -right there in black and white. In KC wins it's going to be in a lot of the cases KC just going to have to try and out score the other cause the Defense really really sucks. - -Hey at least you all season isn't over, -- -at least you still have a healthy Qb. - -Mine got shot right out the window with Aaron going down but like I said and always knew - we were always just one hit away from our season going to hell. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@jayballer54 I think those were the same people who insisted the Royals won despite Ned Yost, and that he was only to blame for losses and should not be credited for wins. Or the people who think Self should not get credit for the Streak, because after all, we are KU and we always win at AFH -- as if always winning at AFH has nothing to do with the home record rung up by Self.

Haters gonna hate, and stupidity will find a way.

@jayballer54

This loss rests squarely on the shoulder of the defense, particularly the secondary which was b_t_h slapped by the Raiders.

I've been an Alex detractor but he was absolutely NOT to blame for the Raiders loss.

@BShark Soley to blame? Hell no! Not even close. Part of the overall problem that will keep the Chiefs from winning a Super Bowl. Hell yes! The team is too flawed for someone less than perfect to guarantee that. Alex Smith is pretty darn good - way better than the crapfest KC had at QB since Green, but he’s not elite (i.e.Montana or Brady). And I’m afraid with that defense that’s what you’d need. I would’ve been shocked if KC would’ve won with the D on the field, the O had to close and they couldn’t. It’s just sad to watch - it’s always one unit or the other O or D that’s inept.

@dylans You are preaching to the choir. I don't know if Mahomes is the answer but when the Chiefs drafted him I was ecstatic.

I think Mahomes is a complete joke personally, the chiefs don't have a enough big receivers for his just throw it game. I guarantee Mahomes throws considerablely more picks than Smith.

I rarely jump to these other threads, but really, we scored 30 points on the road. Our defense has to get some stops. I am not an Alex Smith fan. I've felt he's too conservative (odd thing to ever come out of my mouth). Our secondary is a disaster. But our scheme is largely to blame. It's all man to man, which creates difficulty in run support (because the defender is back to the ball). The bend don't break philosophy, stop them inside the 20, does not bring added pressure -- blitzing backers or corners, or safeties -- near as much as might be helpful in late game situations. It's a give and take. However, the philosophy held Pittsburg to 6 field goals last January. A game we should have won. A game that fell on Smith's shoulders. I also think last week vs. Pittsburgh was a Smith issue. I don't think the Oakland game was his loss. And I think our five wins to start the season don't happen, but for Smith's excellent play.

@kjayhawks I think you're wildly underestimating Mahomes. Keep an open mind. A QB with a wild gun can be managed, dialed back, instructed. Time will tell. He will throw INTs, no doubt.

@HighEliteMajor I think the play calling late vs Oakland was questionable as well most the game vs Pittsburgh. You could make a strong case for Smith for MVP if you look at how effective he has been, dudes completing over 72% of his passes with 15 TDs and 0picks. Now his yards aren't overly impressive at 263 per game but that one has to consider the chiefs have the leading rusher in Hunt.

@kjayhawks I think Smith is the correct choice for this team but you gotta try to draft QBs to try and find a franchise guy.

Not sure why I'm sticking up for Alex Smith like am seeing as how the Chiefs aren't my favorite team , but unless they playing GB then ya I follow them , anyways Again like I am trying to point out just a few more things to point out: - -Alex top QB in passing yardage 1979 , - - 283 yds per game , - - His rating is 120.5 - - - -2nd only behind Sam Bradford with a 124.4 rating. - -he is 165-228 for a 72,4 passing completion

Alex doing this all the main time being Sacked 21 times all ready the 2nd most trailing only behind Matt Stafford 23 times - -has to say something for Alex achieving this with that.

He has the 5th highest total QB rating off 67.8 - -Right behind Brady - -Have to say again - Alex is for sure doing his part - the blame is not on him. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

kjayhawks said:

I think Mahomes is a complete joke personally, the chiefs don't have a enough big receivers for his just throw it game. I guarantee Mahomes throws considerablely more picks than Smith.

Maybe Mahoney is not quite yet elite but he is by no stretch of the imagination a complete joke. He has the tools and potential to be a great QB with a huge upside. With some experience he will be a very good QB.

Despite being behind an average O-line, Alex is playing at a very high level. He has overcome several issues from past years and that is the reason why he is in the MVP conversation

Chiefs stink!

Wow

@dylans why would we have kelce pass?

Crimsonorblue22 said:

@dylans why would we have kelce pass?

Maybe because the interception when Hill tried to pass against Denver didn't provide a sufficient lesson to the coaching staff?

Losing to the Giants is as bad as it gets, almost KU bad.

I concur this loss is a major low. Several situations are working against Chiefs, key injuries on both sides, Alex not playing as well as he was earlier in the season, Reid's coaching has been suspect - too many bad calls and predictable play calling, many holes in the Defense. I don't think they can make many adjustments in the next few games. With AFC West so bad this year Chiefs will win the division but it is looking like another season with loss on 1st playoff game.

The Chiefs need a CB desperately. Gaines is not an NFL caliber player.

Chiefs secondary is a complete joke, Peters is feast or famine and as @dylans Gaines isn't NFL caliber neither is Sorensen.

@kjayhawks I was going to say exactly that but forgot Sorenson's name. One of the guys who tries to tackle by hitting without trying to grab the guy. Bounces off more often than not while watching his target sprint away, it seems.

I hope Revis has something left in the tank. He should be a huge upgrade over Gaines.

Can we please change the title of this thread to

Chiefs :arrow_heading_down:

mayjay said:

Can we please change the title of this thread to

Chiefs :arrow_heading_down:

:(

@mayjay I didn't do that

I kind of like it as "Chorfs" but we could change it to Chefs and I'd be OK with that too

DanR said:

I kind of like it as "Chorfs" but we could change it to Chefs and I'd be OK with that too

I was on the fence between the two. Def don't deserve to be called the Chiefs right now lol.

I was at the game today

What a waste of offenseive talented roster, had high hopes that Chiefs will win today but our Defense can’t stop anybody. Every opposing QB looks like Brady. Also Peters is a Butt case, how he was acting on the sidelines after ejection is pathetic

@AsadZ

Can't blame this loss on the QB. Peters needs to be suspended, he is an embarrassment to the franchise.

I thought Smith payed pretty well as did the offense with 31 points but the secondary is terrible and Revis isn’t any good at this stage in his career. The defense really needs a complete overhaul.

@kjayhawks

That long run Smith had was crazy good. I was hoping he shoved the defender and scored.

Chiefs had a bad draft. Mahomes better be Super Bowl good. Because that is what he cost us this season IMO. We essentially wasted our first 3 picks on two players that basically don’t see the field.

Not going to bother watching another game this year.

Per ESPN

What could have been? The Texans averaged 34.7 points per game with Deshaun Watson starting, compared to 14.7 points per game with Tom Savage as the starter. When Watson got hurt he was on a streak of four straight games with at least three passing touchdowns.

Why did the Chiefs take Mahomes? He’d better pan out! It doesn’t look like Alex’s rope will be very long even though his play isn’t the root of the Chiefs problems. Poor line play and a terrible defense is KC’s downfall.

JayHawkFanToo said:

@AsadZ

Can't blame this loss on the QB. Peters needs to be suspended, he is an embarrassment to the franchise.

Peters needs to be gone PERIOD a disgrace to the Chiefs with his actions, & this isn't the 1st episode with him = -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@jayballer54 "Peters needs to be gone PERIOD a disgrace to the Chiefs with his actions ..."

True, true, and really true. I will restrain myself from further commentary. You are right on point.

@HighEliteMajor

By now, I believe most Chiefs fans feel the same way.

JayHawkFanToo said:

@HighEliteMajor

By now, I believe most Chiefs fans feel the same way.

I sure hope that they would. - It's just that their last game was just the straw that broke the Camel's back. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

There is a reason that Peter's and Kelce fell as far as they did in the draft. The Chiefs have been huge risk takers the past 6 or so seasons, taking extremely risky players. Sometimes it works out great. Look at Houston and Hill. But with the good comes the bad.

Now, I don't want Peter's to be gone. I just want him to grow up, or get a coach in here who draws a line in the sand and players understand and respect that. Same goes for Kelce. There is passion and then there is being a complete moron.

You just don't see these issues with the Packers, Steelers or Patriots. Sure, all of those teams have HOF QBs. But, all three of their careers could have gone completely different directions had they started their careers somewhere else. It is about developing a culture that doesn't tolerate stupidity or distractions. Once that is in place, the rest takes care of itself.

Peters has always been a troublemaker and a hot head. As a junior Peters was suspended one game for a "sideline tantrum" and he was later dismissed from the team for disciplinary issues. Nothing new with his attitude. I say trade him while he has some value and before he becomes the next Kaepernick.

@JayHawkFanToo I find it semi-comical how the KC Star continues to run articles/columns aimed at propping up Peters. Always trying to tell us how great a guy he is, how misunderstood he is, how we just need to look at it differently. I think four or five such articles this season. Meanwhile, some Redskins player defames our entire town, lies, claims that he was being called the n-word, etc., and they just let it go. They report the claim, but don't do any journalism to defend the city from the total lies. And the NFL does nothing either. Meanwhile, the same folks in the media slobber all of Kaepernick, who wouldn't last two minutes debating his positions (whatever they really are). The media are just willing propagandists. Journalism is dead. Great society we live in.

@HighEliteMajor

On this we agree 100%. Peters is overrated, he gives receivers a big space always looking for the interception but in the process always gives up yards. I say trade him while he has some perceived value and let him be some other team’s headache.

@JayHawkFanToo That crossing route he got beat on vs. the Jets was exactly what you are referring to. Goal line situation and he just gets smoked on a basic route. Dealing the guy couldn't come soon enough for me.

@HighEliteMajor

Yep. Can’t give up that much space in the red zone, it is a recipe for disaster.

@HighEliteMajor If I could give you 1,000 thumbs up, I would. Amen.

The best thing about today’s Chiefs game? The KU game is on at the same time, so no need to watch.