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Anybody watching Duke vs Texas?
Nov 24, 2017 11:21 PM #1

5 minutes to go in the first half. TX up by 10 and Duke has players in foul trouble.

Nov 24, 2017 11:27 PM #2

I just watched Roach murder the entire Duke squad with a transition dunk.

Nov 24, 2017 11:27 PM #3

So yes.

Nov 24, 2017 11:30 PM #4

@KirkIsMyHinrich Texas looks like a completely different team than I remember

Nov 24, 2017 11:31 PM #5

Well Barnes is coaching at Tennessee now.

Nov 24, 2017 11:33 PM #6

Texas looking good right now

Nov 24, 2017 11:35 PM #7

Never forget Self coaches circles around Shaka.

Nov 24, 2017 11:35 PM #8

@cragarhawk Dok and Lightfoot will need help down low against TX

Nov 24, 2017 11:37 PM #9

Silvio should be on campus by then.

Nov 24, 2017 11:38 PM #10

@BShark Grayson and Bagley having foul trouble helps too

Nov 24, 2017 11:38 PM #11

Yeah there is a big drop-off with Duke if they don't have tripper out there.

Nov 24, 2017 11:39 PM #12

@BShark Tripper is a good nickname for Grayson.

Nov 24, 2017 11:40 PM #13

Duke is as thin as we are which the media conveniently overlooks. Foul trouble will be troublesome for them like it is now.

Nov 24, 2017 11:40 PM #14

They are moving the ball really well.

Nov 24, 2017 11:40 PM #15

@BShark can we pick this up on Slack?

Nov 24, 2017 11:43 PM #16

HawkChamp said:

Duke is as thin as we are which the media conveniently overlooks. Foul trouble will be troublesome for them like it is now.

Super thin at guard. Only 3 worth a piss basically.

Nov 24, 2017 11:43 PM #17

@BShark Like I said elsewhere Texas is no dog - -we going to have matchup problems on the inside - they taking it to Bagly and Carter. - -Doke takes one but who takes the other? - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Nov 24, 2017 11:44 PM #18

Bamba is really good. Their other post players are jags and do not worry me. Hell they are looking to process James Banks at the end of the year.

Nov 25, 2017 12:08 AM #19

Man look at the shorthorns!

Nov 25, 2017 12:09 AM #20

Duke 12-21 at the line. Unfortunately for K and the devils, the officials cannot also shoot the free throws.

Nov 25, 2017 12:11 AM #21

Duke does not play D

Nov 25, 2017 12:12 AM #22

BShark said:

Bamba is really good. Their other post players are jags and do not worry me. Hell they are looking to process James Banks at the end of the year.

I wouldn't necessarily call Sims and soesikowski or whatever how you spell he crazy name as warn dog doo -So- - -so is built like a brick shi- -house with out a brick missing.

I'm not sure I want a # 1 ranking given to us, We maybe but we are just so thin - These holiday preseason tourneys -are killers.

Purdue loses Twice - -Arizona loses twice - - -Oregon Loses - - Duke in Trouble. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Nov 25, 2017 12:13 AM #23

@jayballer54 jag = just a guy so like they are okay but they are the level of post player that you expect at P5 program.

Bamba is special.

Nov 25, 2017 12:21 AM #24

@BShark OH - - ok - - my bad , - - Osetkowski is solid - -just wonder how can we match up with him and Bamba? - -De-Sousa has to get here and soon lol. -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Nov 25, 2017 12:23 AM #25

Texas trying to give duke the win with missed layups

Nov 25, 2017 12:23 AM #26

Texas starting to wet all over themselves. -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Nov 25, 2017 12:24 AM #27

Texas is missing dunks now.

Nov 25, 2017 12:25 AM #28

jayballer54 said:

Texas starting to wet all over themselves. -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

You can see the pee running down their leg. And it's not like they can look to their coach for help, he's probably dazed and confused.

Nov 25, 2017 12:29 AM #29

Unbelievable shit show from these refs.

Nov 25, 2017 12:30 AM #30

Yep Texas can't get stops and gave Duke momentum with missed layups.

Nov 25, 2017 12:31 AM #31

Refs making sure Duke stays close. That was a blatant foul by Carter.

Nov 25, 2017 12:32 AM #32

HawkChamp said:

Refs making sure Duke stays close. That was a blatant foul by Carter.

Yeah...hacked him completely across the arm. This is what I was bitching about earlier.

Nov 25, 2017 12:32 AM #33

BShark said:

jayballer54 said:

Texas starting to wet all over themselves. -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

You can see the pee running down their leg. And it's not like they can look to their coach for help, he's probably dazed and confused.
Damn I can't stand Trippy McTripperson. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Nov 25, 2017 12:35 AM #34

Same old short horns. No PG, no shooters.

Nov 25, 2017 12:37 AM #35

Texas could still pull this off

Nov 25, 2017 12:40 AM #36

Texas trying to snatch Victory out of the jaws of defeat. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Nov 25, 2017 12:45 AM #37

And this is why I'm not that worried about Texas - Shaks Smarts coaching.

Nov 25, 2017 12:46 AM #38

Coach K at the end of regulation is like "I wrote you that check for a win, not a tie."

Nov 25, 2017 12:46 AM #39

HawkChamp said:

And this is why I'm not that worried about Texas - Shaks Smarts coaching.

Exactly. I will keep beating this drum too.

Also, like I said no PG and no shooters.

Nov 25, 2017 12:46 AM #40

Poor coach, poor shooting and no point guard = ku win

Nov 25, 2017 12:49 AM #41

Sims is a stupid freshman. O-kowski isnt bad.

Nov 25, 2017 12:50 AM #42

The foul disparity is garbage.

Nov 25, 2017 12:51 AM #43

approxinfinity said:

The foul disparity is garbage.

And expected.

Nov 25, 2017 12:52 AM #44

@approxinfinity Texas made several stupid plays. After this season, Self will be 6-0 against Shaka coached Texas.

Nov 25, 2017 12:53 AM #45

Me thinks Florida could take down Puke.

Nov 25, 2017 12:54 AM #46

Still shocked they gave this one away. Dukes interior D was awful. Texas jacking up useless threes. I just don't understand.

Nov 25, 2017 12:55 AM #47

Horrible late game execution. Missed dunks. Duke officiating. Texas can blame themselves for horrible shot selection in the last 5 minutes of regulation, though. Just terrible.

Nov 25, 2017 12:55 AM #48

Are we really going to assume sweeping Texas after they're taking Duke to OT and leading most of the game?

UT is the 2nd most talented team in the Big 12 and Mo Bamba is the real deal on defense. Those won't be easy games for Kansas.

Nov 25, 2017 12:56 AM #49

Texas Hawk 10 said:

Are we really going to assume sweeping Texas after they're taking Duke to OT and leading most of the game?

UT is the 2nd most talented team in the Big 12 and Mo Bamba is the real deal on defense. Those won't be easy games for Kansas.

Feel free to think a Shaka team will ever win anything. I see the same old problems here. Grayson missed a ton of time with foul trouble. Then when Duke wanted to, they turned the screws.

Nov 25, 2017 12:58 AM #50

When Duke started attacking, Texas showed they have a tendency to foul. Duke picked up the defensive intensity and Texas had a hard time scoring, plus they have no shooters. If we pack the paint, rebound and attack them, we will win.

Nov 25, 2017 12:59 AM #51

Grayson didn't matter. If Texas didnt give the game away I would be in complete agreement with @Texas-Hawk-10

Nov 25, 2017 12:59 AM #52

Grayson is their best guard and the drop-off from their 3rd to 4th guard is huge.

Nov 25, 2017 01:00 AM #53

Headed over to slack.

Nov 25, 2017 01:01 AM #54

Texas doesn't suck, but they showed several easily exploitable weaknesses that we can capitalize on.

Nov 25, 2017 01:02 AM #55

Exactly. They could beat KU in a single game of course, too many factors to say otherwise. And they are not a terrible team but they have a lot of issues.

Nov 25, 2017 03:10 AM #56

@BShark I didn't say 2nd best, I said 2nd most talented. Quite frankly, I wouldn't be shocked if KU won the league by 4 or 5 games this year. After KU, there is a huge drop off to the 2nd tier of teams and I would put UT in that 2nd tier along with WVU, TCU, and Baylor. 2nd place in the Big 12 could very easily could easily be a 2 or 3 way tie at 11-7 and I wouldn't be shocked if UT is in that group.

Nov 25, 2017 03:14 AM #57

I don't know if I'd be that cocky about our Big 12 chances. What we saw from UT today is a team that could win the Big 12. Given the fact that KU is two fouls away from Mitch Lightfoot guarding in the post, nothing is a given, and nothing should be even assumed. Now, if we add a functional DeSousa? We'll cross that bridge when we get there. But it's unrealistic in my mind to see this team as a winning the league by such a margin.

I will be shocked if we win by 4 or 5 games.

Remember the folks we are too good to play down I-35? Sure wish somehow they were in our league.

Nov 25, 2017 03:49 AM #58

@HighEliteMajor This team has a killer instinct that we haven't seen in years from a Kansas team. These last 2 games have been against teams projected to win their leagues and KU has put a foot on their throat from tip off and never gave them a chance to believe they could win

West Virginia is supposed to be the 2nd best team, yet they get blown away by an undermanned Texas A&M, TCU struggles against New Mexico. Baylor looks like the 2nd best team right now so what you're saying @HighEliteMajor is that you think Scott Drew or Shaka Smart are good enough coaches to win more games than Kansas this year.

There's not a definite bad team in the Big 12 which is why computers always love the Big 12, but there's nobody in KU's class this year and I've watched of the teams play already expect for OSU and KSU this year.

KU might drop a couple of games here and there, but there's not a lot of talented bigs in the Big 12 this year so I'm not overly concerned if KU has to go with Lightfoot a few games because of foul trouble. Our backcourt is more than good enough to make up for that. KU wins at least 14 league games this year and I don't see them losing before conference play starts either.

Nov 25, 2017 03:58 AM #59

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

Coach K at the end of regulation is like "I wrote you that check for a win, not a tie."

And I could've sworn I saw Smart say "I'm sorry." Seriously.

Nov 25, 2017 04:00 AM #60

@Texas-Hawk-10 I always appreciate how your "wouldn't be shocked" morphs into definitive, no doubt, certainty. I simply wouldn't be shocked if we did not win the Big 12. We have one post player at the moment. One.

Nov 25, 2017 04:35 AM #61

Ehh schlocka hasn’t won any conference that I’m aware of. I don’t think that’ll change this season. Will KU go undefeated...probably not. Will I bet against them? Hell no!

Nov 25, 2017 04:48 AM #62

@HighEliteMajor. The I wouldn't be surprised statement I made was about how many games KU would win the Big 12 by, not whether or not they would win it.

Tell me who's good enough to beat Kansas over 18 games in the Big 12 this year because I haven't seen anyone good enough of the teams I've watched so far which as I said earlier, is most teams in the league already.

Nov 25, 2017 05:02 AM #63

You can win small without doubt. I think UConn and Nova have proved that teams with smart play can be effective even when facing taller teams. That is why these non con games are good for Dok to learn how to not foul and improve his conditioning. Everyone acts so scared of playing taller teams, but how are those teams going to guard our perimeter? Someone's four man is going to have to guard Lagerald or Svi, which is a really tough cover. We'll be fine, especially if Desousa can play. He and Cunliffe will be a big boost for this squad at the perfect time heading into conference play.

Nov 25, 2017 05:26 AM #64

I figure that even if we reclaim Billy Pee by semester, and even if he is joined by newcomer deJesus from the midseason ranks of high school competition, we are bound to bumble along into 2 or 3 league losses. Can Bill Self coached squads play fluidly with guys who have not suited up for November/December battles? If one or both of those power forwards should become available late, what will their inclusion mean to a squad which is united in team play? Right now the Jayhawks are passing and sharing the ball in triumphant and speedy harmony. Granted, Doke's accomplishments will be tested by league coaches and a few conference players like this Bamba kid down in Austin. But our array and backlog of guards might just dominate league opponents, regardless. And a couple of Jayhawk guards are no slouches when it comes to the measuring tape. All the while, earnest Mitch gradually improves his game. I tend to think we win #14 with just the team we now have available. However, I do think the addition of a player with height and bulk might be a saving grace by the time we march into NCAA Tourney play. Whether Preston or the high school wonder or some other big body, if we hope to advance far in the grand tourney someone new will have to have played several second semester minutes per game just to get himself up to reasonable unison with what Bill Self now possesses. Whoever it be, let's hope the addition does not subtract from what we now see. Tampering with a hoops lineup is akin to replacing Runner #2 on a championship relay team.

Nov 25, 2017 12:43 PM #65

@Texas-Hawk-10 It's funny that you think these teams just remain static, and won't improve. What has KU shown so far? We struggled to score against an inferior UK team, our only real game. Sure, we're the favorite. Of course. Texas, WVU, Baylor, TCU. All capable of knocking this KU team off its throne.

If we get a functional DeSousa, my optimism rises. If not, we're too thin in the post to win in March and reach the FF, barring perfect matchups.

@HawkChamp Why do you think Cunliffe is a difference maker? Given what you just said, how do you explain the Oregon game? Were Nova and UConn thin in the post, meaning one good post player on the roster?

Nov 25, 2017 01:46 PM #66

Aren't we much easier to scheme against for conference foes. With only Doke and Mitch? Seems that way to me. Did UT play out of their minds for 35 min yesterday? Or are they just improving? I felt they definitely played 35 min like a team we would struggle against. Doesn't mean we're gonna lose to them. Or the conference. But certainly I don't think winning any of that is a given at this point. And still I mantain that even if we do get Desouza he likely won't be ready to flourish as a incoming green Big in Self's system. We have seen this repeatedly thru the years. BP would be I think the best option simply based on having some time with the team already. But if we can't get him on the floor soon. That ship may sail as well. Then we're simply down to either shooting ppl out of the gym or most likely playing a bad ball style which wouldn't shock me to see alot more of as the season progresses and kids get more and more tired. We can probably play both ways depending on the night. But I think we've all seen how that story ends when it matters most. Although, who knows. It is after all only November

Nov 25, 2017 04:25 PM #67

@HighEliteMajor And yet, your post implies that KU will remain static and not improve while everyone else does. KU is for sure adding 1 new player into the rotation to help with depth in the front court in Cunliffe, likely 2 since DeSousa seems likely to join up around conference, and possibly 3 if the Preston situation gets sorted out in KU's favor.

KU had issues with Kentucky, but who in the Big 12 even comes close to matching UK's combination of talent and length?

This is the weakest the Big 12 has been in a long time and KU is the only team that appears good enough to even make it past the 1st weekend of the NCAA tournament this year.

Nov 25, 2017 05:03 PM #68

I think the fact that people focus on "barely beating a not very good UK" reflects a thorough misunderstanding of Cal's current team. It is a hugely talented team that has been missing in chemistry and has not played anywhere near its level. But to call that team "bad" is myopic. They are not great, but any team with that talent has the potential to be. I think all those freshmen will show their truer colors by year's end.

Nov 25, 2017 05:10 PM #69

Kentucky is 5-1. It's not like they are going full Arizona. They are the kind of team that will junk you up, I wouldn't expect them to be on too many blowouts either way tbh.