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I checked the wiki pages for the following former Self assistants.

-->Tim Jankovich--starting second full season at SMU at 7-3, after glossy 30-5 his first full season after taking over for Larry Brown the year before and going 9-0 down the stretch of his first partial season. Overall .894!

-->Joe Dooley--still at Florida Gulf Coast. Off to a 6-3 start. .664 career at Florida Gulf Coast.

-->Danny Manning--continues to struggle at Wake Forest with a 5-4 start this season and overall .440 after three full seasons and the slow start of a 4th.

-->Barry Hinson--sixth season at Southern Illinois, off to 4-2 start, with but only .494 overall at SIU.

-->Billy Gillispie--his theme song ought to be The Eagles "Desperados". After taking a few years to dry out after the 80 proof melt down with player abuse allegations at Texas Tech, Billy came home to his alma mater of Ranger juco in 2015-16 and promptly played ineligible players and Ranger vacated his first season. In 2016-17 he got off to a 10-2 start, but cited health problems (high blood pressure) and reputedly left coaching for good. But like Sean Connery, never say never. In 2017-18 Billy is back at Ranger and off to an 11-2 start!

-->Doc Sadler--4th season at U of Southern Mississippi and its looking ugly with a .241 record there. But he's off to a 6-13 start, so maybe getting a little better.

@jaybate-1.0 Danny did sign a nice extension!

Not really sure about any of these coaches being Selfs successor.

@Crimsonorblue22

A lot of second guessing by Wake Forest fans (and analysts) about the extension considering his record to date. He does have a nice class coming next season.

Danny has had some close losses to some not good teams, it’s early forsure but with that big contract he just got. He will have to do better the next few years or he may get the boot.

It’s going to be an uphill battle for Danny to get Wake into the tourney this year.

I guess Self isn't the Andy Reid of college basketball. (which in some ways is a good thing)

@HawkChamp

Janks is the only guy that has proven he can get to the magic 30 with solid talent to coach. Right now that makes him the only candidate from the assistants. But we’ll have to see if he can recruit without Larry and Larry’s mystery assistant. Still, I’m a big Janks fan.

The rest are not quite there, or struggling. If Danny could get a class and get to 28-30 he would join the ranks.If Joe could jump to a major and get a 28-30 same.

But the key will be the time when Self retires. At that time, who will have the best recruiting connections? That will depend on KU petroshoeco contracts, age, record and experience as usual.

Right now, the chance KU hires one of these guys is slim.

But I have a sentimental spot for all of them.

Even Gillispie, who could have been such a great coach but for a flaw or two.

Rock Chalk!!

P.S.: the most important thing of all is to have some one picking him that knows basketball and basketball coaching and that has some right way character. KU needs to put a statue out front for the man that picked Self. I apologize to him for not remembering his name. That man and James Naismith were the men in charge that hired our two greatest coaches. They are the real geniuses without whom our great coaches would never have gotten their shots at the KU job!!

@jaybate-1.0

Interim AD Drue Jennings was in charge when Bill Self was hired.

The late Bob Frederick hired Roy Williams, another great hire.

@JayHawkFanToo

Thanks for the recall on the Self hire. Is that man still alive? He deserves at least a commemorative plaque in the Field House. I don't recall Self ever talking about him. Would love to see Self bring him back for a halftime, mid court thank you!!!

And Frederick was a man that I loved, when he was at KU, along with Roy, until I learned the petroshoeco and recruiting subtext that came with hiring both LB and Roy. Very, very VERY "complicated" connections. Some day maybe some one will write a book about what really went down. Dean, Sonny, Larry, William Wesley, and Roy. Talk about the legacy epicenter of the birth of the Petroshoeco-Agency Complex that has come to haunt college basketball today. But the book will likely never be written until the current regime in control of college basketball passes on and someone can once again reasonably expect honest histories to be published in a media market that is NOT dominated by the six holding company cartel currently making beau coup bucks out of fake news.

Rock Chalk!!!

@jaybate-1.0 Why don't you write it? Publish with Amazon. No one can stop you.

@JayHawkFanToo Wasn't Drue Jennings (an outsider by then) who handled the KU investigation into TicketGate?

@mayjay

Jennings was the Interim AD when Self was hired; I am sure he had consultants helping him. The ticket gate came much later in 2010ish?

@mayjay

Your point is well taken. I will think on it, but I am not in the best of health these days, so I am not sure I could do the job. Also, I am at work on a long, unruly novel that requires most of my concentration. Excuses, excuses.😎