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Today in Waco we will see if KU football really has really turned a corner and become competitive in the Big 12. Our defense must be successful to get a win over Baylor. Baylor plays two QBs, each of whom has been intercepted. I don't expect two pick six gifts like last week, but I do see our defense playing with more confidence and aggression. We've got to show we can pressure the QB and our defensive backs can cover the skilled Bears' receivers. A great defensive effort is necessary to win this game.

So, if our offense stacks together several first downs on each series and keeps the Baylor offense off the field, KU football will be competitive today and just may pull off the upset. I really like that our rushing offense has controlled the ball, but we must get the passing offense going. I look forward to everyone's comments during the game. Rock Chalk.

With Bender starting, I give us a .01% chance of winning.

@Kcmatt7 Starting doesn't mean he'll play the whole game though. It also could help by announcing that your "passing" QB is starting to keep Baylor from game planning to load up the box early.

Seems like both coaches are playing for their jobs. The team that wins lives to fight another day and move on and the loser likely headed to the bottom of the conference.

@JayHawkFanToo agree. Loser goes home lol.

It's our Bohemian Rhapsody moment...is it real life...is it just fantasy... Now, it seems like that KU football has an opposite effect than basketball with my picks. When I say they'll win, they lose. When I say they'll lose, they win ( a little like bshark in basketball ), so in order to make sure KU wins today, I am predicting THEY LOSE.

Kcmatt7 said:

With Bender starting, I give us a .01% chance of winning.

you know what? - - I think I'd even start Stanley in place of Bender - ya maybe Bender MIGHT and I say MIGHT throw a little better BUT Stanley is a hell of a lot more mobile - play Stanley and Kendrick with Kendrick the majority

I'm fine with Bender starting. Our pass offense just has to improve and he gives us the best chance of the necessary improvement. I sure hope Bender practiced the fade pattern this week and gets to throw it successfully several times. I thought Kendrick's play last week was good enough to make him the starter, but Bender adds a level of stability to the offense. Kendrick's available if Bender makes mistakes. I think today's success comes down to how long the offense can hold onto the ball and how much the defense resembles its play the last two weeks.

@jayballer73 not a stanley fan myself.

Kcmatt7 said:

@jayballer73 not a stanley fan myself.

that's ok - -not offended lol - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@Texas-Hawk-10 to me it just shows that this staff isn't seeing the obvious. It sends conflicting messages to a guy like Kendrick, who at some point has to ask himself what more he can do to win the spot.

Mercy Nebraska getting their butts handed to then in a hat. - Michigan up 30-with only about 6 minutes gone in the 2nd half

Things that we need to see changed today: - -Over the last 8 yrs against Baylor we been outscored 399-102. - - - We have never scored more then 14 points in the last 6 years - - ---we have been beat by 27 pts in 7 of the games and Baylor is averaging just a shade of under 50 points a game against us - This is what has TO STOP. - This is where we have to show we have made improvement.

Baylor is giving up like 187 yards rushing a game - -you know they are going to force us to pass let's see that improvement show that we can compete against better competition. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

PERSPECTIVE ALERT

Buffalo is beating Rutgers 28-6

@jayballer73 I'm watching a lot of the Georgia/Missouri game. I watched the Georgia freshman QB, Jake Fromm on the Netflix series QB1 and want to see how he does in the SEC.

stoptheflop said:

@jayballer73 I'm watching a lot of the Georgia/Missouri game. I watched the Georgia freshman QB, Jake Fromm on the Netflix series QB1 and want to see how he does in the SEC.

Great game. Missouri is playing better but shooting themselves in the foot. Classic Missouri.

@Kcmatt7 Kendrick really hasn't done anything to earn the job though. He's an average at best runner and his passing accuracy leaves a lot to be desired. He may have completed that fade to Booker last week, but he under threw that pass badly. He's also put some passes in spots that better defenders would have picked off.

I'm not calling Bender a great passer because he's not, but let's not pretend like Kendrick is the second coming.

The only reason why the 2 QB system is working this year so far is because Kendrick can decently run, but he's not going to be good running against speedy Big 12 defenses that will just spy him and keep him from gaining yards.

Anyone else watching Mayfield at Cleveland? Our QB needs a little of that Mayfield attitude when on the field. That guy knows he's going to get it done.

@Texas-Hawk-10 But his ability to extend plays and pickup 3rd downs that Bender has no chance at picking up on his feet will carry this offense further than Bender can. Kendrick also forces a spy, meaning one less guy in coverage.

We aren't going to pass the ball well no matter who is at QB. But one is clearly the better runner. Bender looks like a 5.5 40 yard dash.

@Kcmatt7 Kendrick is averaging 3.6 yards per rush. His running ability isn't so significantly better than Bender's that he has clearly separated himself at this point. He might be able to avoid a couple of sacks that Bender can't, but he's not someone who will punish teams with his feet either.

@Texas-Hawk-10 Still 6 yards better per rush than Bender. In limited time, better Y/A from Kendrick. An avoided sack is the difference between a long drive and a punt. The only way we upset anyone is ball control and extending drives that eat clock. Bender isn't going to do that. Even if we score more points with Bender, they aren't as meaningful because they are going to come from quick strikes that put the D right back on the field.

We are more likely to win a game where the offense scores 21 points and limits possessions than a game we score 35 with a ton of possessions. Bender is not going to take us for long drives and win the field possession battle.

I have a tough time listening to Coach Beaty. I've completely lost confidence in him. During his pregame comments he said this year's team is focused on running the ball to keep control of time of possession. Also, focusing on not turning the ball over. Finally, that the offensive line has legitimate 2 deeps now and has made the most strides from last year.

Beaty is a goober.

@Kcmatt7 You seriously think 21 points regardless of the number of possessions is winning very many B12 games?

@Texas-Hawk-10 We certainly aren't winning a track meet with anyone in the B12 into the 30s. And we aren't scoring 5 TDs no matter who is at QB.

I don't think we win a B12 game. The debate is who gives you the best chance at winning. Or, realistically speaking, keeping a game close. The QB who can give us the most time of possession is the QB who will give us the best chance at winning a B12 game. That player is Kendrick.

And I'll be happy to admit I was wrong if today goes well.

@Kcmatt7 After looking good against OU last week, I State looked very average today against Akron. Average, unless the Zips are better than you'd normally think.

@stoptheflop Akron is a really good team

@stoptheflop They beat Northwestern last week. And Northwestern isn't awful.

Yeah Akron is super solid.

Tough start. Almost a pick six against Bender. His receiver was covered by at least 3 defenders. Hoo Boy, not a good start.

@stoptheflop Reality check for a lot of people today imo.

well, that penalty on them didn't help us

That penalty of ineligible downfield wasn't the only penalty. Major holding which I can't believe wasn't called. I also am surprised that the penalty was accepted because we had them at 4th down. Maybe they kick instead of giving up the TD that just happened.

kU iS bEtTeR uR hAtIn BsHaRk

@wissox and that is why Beaty won't keep his job lol. It isn't just the product on the field. It is all the "WTF" moments that happen during a game

I'm not sure KU had the option to decline that ineligible man penalty. Sure seems like 4th and 1 was better than giving them another shot at the first down which they got

@wissox Two penalties on the drive that should not have been accepted.

@DanR Never forced to take a penalty. That was a coaching mistake

@Kcmatt7 head scratcher for sure

Holding is definitely not getting called against Baylor in this game.

I think the D is looking fairly decent to be honest except for a couple boners

announcer you are WRONG

I think illegal motion/false starts are the only penalties that can't be declined because they happen before the snap.

@Kcmatt7 KU's defense isn't stopping anybody unless they're forcing turnovers. They have to score points to win games because 21 isn't cutting it except for possibly KSU.

Grier just dusted KSU's defense.

Let's go! Need a score here.

Oh God.

KSU's receivers lack the ability to get separation. SLOW.

FG's will be an adventure for both teams today because it is windy enough to move the goal posts around. Especially kicking into the open end of the stadium.

I'm being reminded why I've hardly watched KU football for years.

@wissox usually we're arguing about whether we hate the helmets or uniforms by this point in the game.

@DanR I'll have to get accustomed to the traditions!

@Kcmatt7 That play Brewer just made stepping up to avoid the blitz is something Kendrick can't do. That's extending a play and punishing a defense, if Kendrick could do that, I would say play him in a heartbeat, but Kendrick isn't that player.

Just looked at Stubhub. Tickets for KU-Villanova start at 360. Football tickets can be had for as little as 20.

Yeah .. this could get ugly.

Our secondary is just getting burned. Good grief

No catch, review please

Jace Sternberger scored against Alabama. Wonder why he didn't play for KU. :thinking:

Unfortunately, this looks like the KU football team of the last 4 years. Can the coaches and players turn this around. A TO would help.

It's good to see Bowen still doesn't believe in spying a mobile QB.

The pussification of football.

Harris led with his shoulder, shouldn't have been targeting.

looked clean to me, but I used to play football

that announcer is WRONG again!

He was standing straight up when they collided ffs

@Texas-Hawk-10 Bowen's defense sucks. Letting the Baylor QB run at will.

No way in hell that's a catch.

@stoptheflop A good coordinator would know Brewer can run and spy him in long yardage situations.

KU offense: 46 pass; 4 rush. Brewer: 58 rush; 124 pass; and 2 TDs. OUCH

Refs just missed a huge hands to face. Loneker nearly had his helmet turned around on that play.

Need to speed this game up.

Beaty should at least give Kendrick a series. Bender isn't getting the job done today.

LMAO

Yeah...now is the time to put in Kendrick for the the first time.

If that Baylor DB doesn't trip, he picks that pass to Fairs. A jump ball into double coverage doesn't end well.

Carter Stanley shot Beaty's mom.

Defense is too concerned with strips and not making easy tackles.

That was a helluva catch

Yep. QB could have ran for a first down there if he wanted to as well.

@BShark It's pretty windy, Stanley would be the worst choice of the QB's today.

@BShark One TV angle showed our No. 19 spying in the middle of the field.

This is the KU football we all have come to expect, both lines getting beat like they stole something

KU needed that break to have some momentum.

48 yards of offense.

This is probably the worst run defense KU will see in B12 play this year.

The more things change the more they stay the same. Brewer is running like he is Forrest Gump. The offense for KU has a net 0 yards for the half and 48 yards passing. Baylor dominated the first half and if not for the 6 penalties it is even more lopsided. Barring a miracle KU will lose the game and it is...once again...headed for a 0-9 conference record. SMH.

@stoptheflop Welcome back to reality boys - -that's the KU team we are use to seeing. -- Their QB just lights up when he knows we are his next opponent - last year he ate us up - -this year just carving us up - -these guys have no answer. - Plus this is the 1st of many gonna load the box and we see the results -- -SIX DAYS TILL BASKETBALL

@Texas-Hawk-10 ya a scoop and score there gives us some light, as bad as we played it could be worse. I feel like a 6 plays make it a 23-0 from what could be a close 17-10 game. It only gonna get worse tho, we can’t get new linemen at half time, just hope we can score and keep it under a 30 point loss.

At least KSUCK is getting hammered too lol

@kjayhawks That's a good team doing that to them though. This is the 8th or 9th place team doing this to us.

@Texas-Hawk-10 my tiny lil hope is gone. Teeny tiny

Would've been nice if the pass stuck to Loneker

I don't like changing QB's mid series.

Sims needs to ride pine, catch the GD ball

Pooka, the lone bright spot for the offense.

@JayHawkFanToo That play has been the lone bright spot.

Apparently this week in 1973, Baylor shut out Missouri in Columbia 27-0

I think I could've gained 10 yards with that hole.

Well we are winning the 3rd Q.

Penalties starting to add up here, no discipline

Sims caught a pass!!!!!

The offense is moving the ball some. The offense looks better this half.

I think Kendrick is hurt right now. He wasn't in the huddle before this series and hasn't been standing near the other offensive players. Carter Stanley also took off the yellow hat and headset and has his helmet on now.

Dumb play call on 4th down!!!

@Texas-Hawk-10 I agree. Two defenders waiting to make sure our receiver doesn't make the first down. What's the deal with all our plays barely beating the clock?

kjayhawks said:

At least KSUCK is getting hammered too lol

WVU is pretty okay at football.

@Texas-Hawk-10 on the WR for not running the route 2 yards deeper

Old Dominion has tied Virginia Tech at 21. WHAT.

@kjayhawks That's just a poorly designed play.

@Texas-Hawk-10 I played WR, you have to know where the sticks are period

@kjayhawks I coach them, that was poorly designed route combination.

When we don't force TOs, we really struggle.

@kjayhawks You rarely see KU receivers run routes past the sticks in those situations, that's poor coaching and poor play design.

Nice block left guard

@Texas-Hawk-10 There isn't a single aspect of KU football that is well coached.

Throw it down Feild good grief

BShark said:

@Texas-Hawk-10 There isn't a single aspect of KU football that is well coached.

Short answer, NO.

Turn on CBS Sports Network.

@Texas-Hawk-10 if you don’t coach your kid to get to the sticks before he turns, I’m glad you don’t coach around here. I’d be running in practice for that.

@kjayhawks WTF are you talking about? Where did I say I don't coach receivers to run past the sticks on those plays? KU receivers do that crap all the time when they don't run routes past the sticks. That's bad play design by the KU coaching staff and Doug Meachem in particular since he's the OC and play caller.

CAN RYAN WILLIS SAVE VIRGINIA TECH?

@Texas-Hawk-10 you been chirping at me for saying he didn’t run the route far enough WTF is your point then?

@Texas-Hawk-10

Agree. Receivers should be always looking at the first down marker; positional awareness does not seem to be a priority.

The defense hasn’t done terrible thus far, getting shorts fields was a big key in the first.

For fans of atrocious football, which I assume is everyone still watching at this point: New Mexico State vs UTEP in just under an hour.

@kjayhawks

Defense has allowed over 400 yards and counting...not that good in my book.

@kjayhawks How many times do I have to say it's crappy play design on KU's part? This is the 4th time now I'm saying it was a crappy play design.

@JayHawkFanToo If you told me we let up less than 30 on the road in this conference, if it holds up. I’d be happy every week, the offense has been the big issue today.

Texas Hawk 10 said:

@kjayhawks You rarely see KU receivers run routes past the sticks in those situations, that's poor coaching and poor play design.

I’m not disagreeing the play wasn’t right looks to me like you clearly stated the WR doesn’t go passed the sticks so which is it? Do you even what your saying buddy?

@kjayhawks I'm saying KU receivers do that all the damn time. If it was an occasional occurrence, then you could argue lack of awareness by the receiver. As much as it happens with KU's receivers, that's play design and coaching. I haven't said anything different about it. I've said over and over that it's play design and that's a coaching issue, not a player issue.

Old Dominion 35 Virginia Tech 28

@Texas-Hawk-10 I don’t care if it was the coaching that told him to do that or him it was stupid, as the the announcer even said. You know the guy that played in NFL, that said he should’ve ran the route further, guess he don’t know shit about football.

130 yds of penalties today. More than our passing yds, 119 and more than our rushing yds, 89 separately. Terrible, horrible play today. Boo.

@stoptheflop yep and most of them on offense.

Yeah, Carter Stanley. At least we'll have over 100 yds. rushing.

Ryan Willis leads a TD drive to tie the game for VT.

@BShark Willis was the best QB we had In the Beaty era IMO

I guess you could say there is progress, pretty much the same team and personal that we lost to in Lawrence by 30 last year. It really all starts with the oline and there lack of protection coupled with numerous penalties.

kjayhawks said:

@JayHawkFanToo If you told me we let up less than 30 on the road in this conference, if it holds up. I’d be happy every week, the offense has been the big issue today.

If not for the 13 penalties which costed them 141 yards, the score could have been worse and still managed 447 yards of offense...and KU is going to see much better offenses the rest of the way.

@kjayhawks I didn't watch the game on TV. I was inside the stadium watching the game in person. KU play designs are so damn bad and that is on the coaches. I don't give a rat's ass what an announcer has to say about it. When something happens repeatedly like that, it's because of the coaching. If KU's coaches were any good, they would've been exploiting the slant routes that Baylor wouldn't have been able to cover at all.

Are you really that surprised KU's receivers suck at route running considering the history of this coaching staff? Should the receivers have the awareness to know where the stocks are and run a route past them on 4th down? Absolutely, but when coaches repeatedly tell them to take what the defense gives them, defense is going guard theb1st down line and try and force everything in front of it. It is a coaching issue above all else and why KU has won only 15 or 16 games this decade.

@Texas-Hawk-10 that’s all I’m saying is run past the marker there, I don’t think anyone is impressed with our playing calling since MM left. I just fell you were attacking me and then agreeing with me, which you are lol. Maybe we both just frustrated at the game, usually we agree.

Maybe this thread should be renamed...the bad news bears.:disappointed:

@kjayhawks You put play on the receiver, I was putting it on the coaches because of their history of poor play design and play calling, that's all it was.

@Texas-Hawk-10 I said you could put on ether and never said I agreed with the play called. I seldom agree with the play calls of this staff.

Well, Beaty might as well start packing up his office.

Well as if we needed any worse to happen. - - Texas Tech just blistering Okie State AT Okie St 41-17 - -yippee just what we needed, - you don't think they won't come in mad as hell? - lol - -probably looking to drop 70 on us after this

@jayballer73 it was shocking to see tech come in to Stillwater and beat the brakes of off Okie state like that.

KU did have opportunities to make this game closer today, but didn't capitalize on those opportunities. The Rui FG miss, not an easy FG in those conditions today, but still makeable for him. The fumbled punt at the end if the first half. If KU recovered and scored, they would've had some real momentum going into halftime. And the last one was the Loneker dropped pick 6 in the 3rd quarter. That's 17 points in missed opportunities KU had today they couldn't capitalize on.

As frustrating as today was, KU had some opportunities to put points on the board and just failed to capitalize on those chances. That's the difference between a good team and a bad team though.

• Chances KU wins 1 conference game : 20%
• Chances KU wins 2 or more conference games: 5%
• Chances Coach Beaty comes back next season: 10% (increases by 15% with each win)
• Chances Coach Beaty makes it past the midseason break: 50% (increases or decreases by 10% with each win or loss)

Thoughts?

@JayHawkFanToo I think Beaty gets The whole season, they would’ve fired him at the Nicholls game if that want the case.

@JayHawkFanToo If Beaty doesn't get fired after WVU, then he's finishing the year out.

@kjayhawks @Texas-Hawk-10

Nichols State was the tougher of the non con games and KU had a chance to go 4-0. Even after the first loss, KU was playing two poor teams next and had a chance to get it together, which it did, before playing against Baylor with the best chance to win a conference game, which it did not. If KU wins at least one of the next 2 games, or stays close, he might last the season; however, if the next 2 games are not competitive then he is likely gone at the break.

I'm really disappointed with the offense, particularly the offensive line. I no longer have any faith in Doug Meacham. He can leave Lawrence immediately for all the good he's done. The defense was OK. Bowen's an idiot for not being ready to stop Brewer's runs. Eventually, the adjustment was made to stop Brewer from running, but the damage was done. Several of Brewer's long passes were spot-on, so I give him credit for beating our Dbacks. Coming in, Baylor was averaging 40 pts. a game. The defense kept us in the game, but the offense never showed up, Pathetic really. Please fire Beaty and Meacham right now; I'll drive them to the Kansas border in any direction they want to go. If not Beaty and Meacham, then fire A.J. Ricker. I can't believe Beaty was talking up the offensive line during pregame as the most improved unit on the team. The offensive line penalties were drive killers with this offense that can't move the ball anyway.

Seriously have to wonder how this game turns out if Bender isn't starting. Only drive we scored on Kendrick saved after a holding penalty on the first play. I know he got hurt, but damn, coaches have to be blind to see how having a running QB adds a dimension to this team that Bender doesn't.

Bender's only drive we had a chance at scoring on came from a Roughing the passer. And then Bender took a sack to lose 9 yards and put us at borderline FG range.

It isn't even close to a decision. I hope he can get healthy and start next week.

@Kcmatt7 this coaching staff is probably blind deaf and mute.

@BShark I wish they were mute.

kjayhawks said:

@jayballer73 it was shocking to see tech come in to Stillwater and beat the brakes of off Okie state like that.

ya so look out