Gus Malzahn just lost again, dropping Auburn to 4-3. Thereās definitely a lot of discontent down there and it would only be mildly surprising if he got fired.
I still think Miles is the guy but there will be some legit options out there for how much Long can offer.
I mean he just signed a 7 year 49M $ contract.
@FarmerJayhawk What about Beaty...do you think he would be a candidate for the Cornshucker job?
Woodrow said:
I mean he just signed a 7 year 49M $ contract.
Itās the SEC. money is no object.
Malzahn has always come across as an underachiever to me. He's only had 1 really good season at Auburn with his own players, and that was last season. I know he took Auburn to the title game in his first year, but he couldn't back it up and Auburn has been a middle of the pack or worse team every year but last year.
To me, Malzahn is a slightly better version of Charlie Weis and I don't think he'd ever really get KU turned around.
Long needs to do what he has to do to get Les Miles because Miles can get KU going in the right direction.
FarmerJayhawk said:
Woodrow said:
I mean he just signed a 7 year 49M $ contract.
Itās the SEC. money is no object.
Still, 32 million is his buyout. Might even be tough to swallow for Auburn's bmds.
There is a Butch Jones rumor circulating.
I'd be ok with Jones. He did very well at CMU and Cincy. Tennessee is a tough job. Obscene expectations for fans who still think Peyton Manning is walking through the door.
The more I look at Jones, the more I wouldn't be super pissed. He has recruited well out of Kansas JUCOs and seems to have that connection at least.
FarmerJayhawk said:
I'd be ok with Jones. He did very well at CMU and Cincy. Tennessee is a tough job. Obscene expectations for fans who still think Peyton Manning is walking through the door.
Very much agree about Tenn. Lots of SEC football jobs are that way tbh.
kjayhawks said:
@BShark Is your new profile pic what you're drinking tonight or tomorrow during the football game? lol
Ha, just a bottle from one of my favorite two distilleries. For the money it costs I honestly wouldn't recommend the 25 year over the 12, 15 or 17 year but hey, it's 25 y/o whiskey you have to at least try it once (if you like scotch).
I wouldn't touch Butch Jones for the next hire. He's not a program builder. He inherited already established Central Michigan and Cincinnati programs from Brian Kelly.
Guys youāre making a poor guy jealous. I do have a case of Stone Anti-Matter though
@FarmerJayhawk I've always got a spare pour for a fellow Jayhawk. :sunglasses:
Nice.š
My dad liked Johnny Walker Black and Chivas and that is what I grew up with. On special occasions he would bring out the Chivas 18 and on rarer occasions the Chivas 25 which was by far the best I had ever tasted until I had chance to drink the Johnny Walker Blue Label which is something evey one that appreciates good scotch should try at least once...and I am not even much of a scotch drinker. Nowadays I drink mostly wine and hardly ever the hard stuff.
@JayHawkFanToo I never liked Scotch until I tried single malt. Blends like Cutty Sark, J Walker Red, etc were all I'd had. Too bitter. Now we usually drink Glenlivet or something similar. Before the kids moved to Hawaii, I got a bottle every F Day. Now I just get a card, and then I have to get the booze myself to drown my sorrows...
now don't take this wrong in any way guys , Just had to chuckle some that's all. - -Just kind of shows how sad our football program is and here is why. The Topic here is - - - - -The next Coach and yet some how we strayed and started talking about different types of spirit = = Scotch and such, - - -meaning no harm my friends just had to laugh thinking YEP that just shows how low our football has become lol we can't even stay on course lmao. - -Sorry guys have no problem with the conversation - -just me and my twisted sense of humor. - - - I'll laugh at just about anything ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@jayballer73 Yeah and every time I read āThe Next Coachā I think Billās not in that much hot water is he?!?
dylans said:
@jayballer73 Yeah and every time I read āThe Next Coachā I think Billās not in that much hot water is he?!?
Lmao , ya me too. When I 1st seen the topic that's exactly who I thought this was about lol. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@HighEliteMajor That would be nice! Unfortunately, it would be cheaper to buy a bottle of every brand that makes 25 year scotch every month! But, you do give me an idea--we need to plan our trips in mid-June rather than January, and watch the waves as I sail into a nice soft fog....
@jayballer73 This isn't really a change in topics from fb to booze. I am sure many KU fans have been hitting the hard stuff in droves for years.
mayjay said:
@jayballer73 This isn't really a change in topics from fb to booze. I am sure many KU fans have been hitting the hard stuff in droves for years.
...and by the look of things, some of the coaches might have been doing the same.
JayHawkFanToo said:
mayjay said:
@jayballer73 This isn't really a change in topics from fb to booze. I am sure many KU fans have been hitting the hard stuff in droves for years.
...and by the look of things, some of the coaches might have been doing the same.
TRUTH lmao
The Costco "Kirklands" brand scotch is surprisingly good and is quite a bit cheaper than other brands. About $25 for a 1.75L bottle. Definitely worth it for a budget scotch.
Butch Jones would be a horrible fit here. Or anywhere. I lived in Knoxville for ten years and it was no surprise to me that he was a bust there, but he had every possible resource available to build a team at Tennessee. Decent recruiter with the bucks backing him up, but he's really just not a smart coach.
Tennessee definitely has more football resources than KU. Another thing to factor in is that someone in the SEC has more local recruiting bases to draw from than a coach at KU. KU really only has one large metro area to draw from, and that metro area is pretty well divided up between KU, Mizzou and K-State already, with Nebraska, Iowa and others regularly getting players from there as well.
Wichita produces some talent, but Oklahoma State is just as close, and Norman isn't too much further. KU really doesn't have a big advantage recruiting there.
The rest of the state just doesn't produce enough talent.
Looking at states like Mississippi and Alabama, they produce more than twice as much D1 talent as Kansas does in state, and those are the smallest states in the SEC. There's just so much talent to go around there, and most of it is local. That isn't the case at KU, and likely never will be. That's one of the reasons Nebraska has struggled more recently. Not enough local talent to go around, and enough of the local programs like KSU, Mizzou, Iowa, Minnesota, etc. all good enough to draw their local talent to keep the Huskers from being the recruiting destination on the plains.
The KU job is a challenging job. You need a coach that can get the most out of his recruits, but also someone that can recruit out of state talent because he can't just rely on local talent because there just isn't enough to fill out a roster year in and year out.
Justin Leonard is an up and coming DC at Wisconsin who has a good track record and is rumored to be on the fast track for head coaching.
Besides him, there are certainly assistants out there who are looking for their big break and turning around this moribund program would be a crown in the jewel of any coach.
Of course going the up and coming assistant route means you risk losing them when/if they're successful here. Every coach out there started as an assistant and someone found them. If we do our due diligence we can find this individual. Might as well start now.
If I am KU, I am still looking at mid major head coaches that are good recruiters, preferably from the MAC or Mountain West. I would be hesitant to get a coach from the Sun Belt because they have more local recruiting ground. A coach at FIU or South Florida need only walk a few blocks to run into a dozen or so D1 prospects. A coach in the Sun Belt probably won't have to go more than a couple hundred miles from campus to fill 60% of his roster.
A coach in the Mountain West or MAC, though? They have to recruit those that are overlooked, and may need to find a few diamonds in the rough, rather than just land a local kid or two.
KU is past taking unproven assistant coaches to see if they can revive the football program.
If KU is serious about football it needs a coach with proven record of success...cheaper to pay for a quality coach rather than paying salaries former coaches that did not work out.
If you have a chance, read the Boston Globe 6-part story on Aaron Hernandez, it will give you a different and very negative view of Urban Meyers.
JayHawkFanToo said:
If you have a chance, read the Boston Globe 3-part story on Aaron Hernandez, it will give you a different and very negative view of Urban Meyers.
Oh believe me I don't need this article. Meyer is GARBAGE.
The entire series ā is very interesting and gives a complete view of Hernandez and his life and tragic death.
Found this interesting , not sure how much of this has already been mentioned but. - Read an article talking about the names of Coach's that Long has been following on Twitter. They are:
Head Coach's , - - - - Dave Clawson ( Wake Forest ) - - - - - - Dave Doeren, ( NC State )- - - - - - Jim Harbaugh ( Michigan )- - - - - - Lane Kiffen ( Florida Atlantic )- - - - - - Seth Littrell ( North Texas )- - - - - - Then they talk about another pretty solid Coach one that hadn't been thought of or mentioned they said and that was - - - - Jeff Tedford ( Fresno State ) -- AD Long has been following him also.
Then a Couple of ass't Coach's- - - - Jim Leavitt ( Oregon's def Cordinator )- - - - - - & then Chip Long ( Norte Dame )
So again don't know how many of these have been talked about but just throwing these guys out for what it's worth - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Itās Miles, baring a last minute change of heart
Will the firing and hiring be announced at the same time?
No. The deal isn't 100% done that I'm aware of. Sometime in early December seems more likely.
Tomorrow could be wild...
FarmerJayhawk said:
Tomorrow could be wild...
I'm very ready.
Sounds like Beaty could be out as soon as tomorrow afternoon.
kjayhawks said:
Sounds like Beaty could be out as soon as tomorrow afternoon.
I wouldn't really rely on that to much , don't think that will happen - -think they will go ahead and let him finish out. - -Wouldn't make a lot of sense for Miles to come in Now.
Unless the only way would fire Coach and let someone from staff finish the season - - Go ahead then and let Les go out and see if he can recruit while the final 4 weeks - -I'm still kind of doubtful Les is coming here -just don't know - -I'll believe it when Isee it. - -ROCK CHALK ALLD AY LONG BABY
@jayballer73 I think if they do it, it will because of fan support. Only 15,500fans were at todayās game and Iād say over half were ISU fans. Joe Dineen actually called out fans after the game and I agree. KSU has the same record as us but will have a full stadium their last 2 home games. We need to support these guys as best as we can, they are working hard.
@kjayhawks Well not making a bowl game in 10 years excuses a lack of fan support imo. It isn't even a competitive product on the field. And hasn't been since 09.
I realize the players are working hard. But showing financial support also empowers the University to not make necessary changes. The only way you can show how you feel to the KU athletics department is with your wallet.
Well yep. - -KU HAS announced they will be having a meeting/announcement whatever at 12;00 noon. - -So ya looks like he for sure is gone.
Even if Les has secretly been hired I still don't think they wil lcome oit and mention him tomorrow - -just focusing on Beaty tommorrow
@jayballer73 Contract extension! Because crappy programs always do that a couple months before firing someone. (So do corporations about to go under.) Just remember, you heard it here first!
I was at the game today and if there were not any Iowa St fans there I would guess it would have been 5-7,000 KU fans. There is no fan support for this program and coach. I donāt blame anyone for not going or wanting to go. The product that Beaty trots out there every week is a joke.
This was a foregone conclusion when Long was hired. Just a complete waste of time to have kept Beatty this season. Beatty couldnāt recruit to fit what he wanted to do. We have zero commitments (one?). This was an unnecessary waste of a year. Beatty was another disaster. Success is on the horizon though.
@HighEliteMajor You couldnāt really Fire a guy at the beginning of fall camp when Long was hired. Soren is now saying KU will allow Beaty to lose the final 3 games or finish year before he is released.
@kjayhawks I get youāre point. But you know how you fire a guy before the season? You walk in and say, āYouāre fired. Get out.ā And you appoint the best assistant as interim coach. I think we would have had a better chance without Beatty. But who cares now? I donāt. Iām just excited that this is happening.
HighEliteMajor said:
This was a foregone conclusion when Long was hired. Just a complete waste of time to have kept Beatty this season. Beatty couldnāt recruit to fit what he wanted to do. We have zero commitments (one?). This was an unnecessary waste of a year. Beatty was another disaster. Success is on the horizon though.
Completely agree with you on this. Which I think means the world is ending.
@HighEliteMajor I'm not a fan of Beaty, but neither do I think firing him is a magic fix for KU football. And I don't know how anyone can believe "Success is on the horizon."
Prior to this season, I did a review of Kansas football over the past 60 years. Beginning with Jack Mitchell, overall record since 1958 was 268 wins, 393 losses, 14 ties. The winning percentage over that time is .405. With a 12-game schedule that would be 4-5 wins a year. Only nine bowl games, averaging one every 6-7 years. Not what most people would call "success."
Of the 14 coaches over that timeframe, only Mangino had a winning record (50-48). Regarding Mangino's team in 2007, the overall record of opponents was 65-87, with only four having a winning record. The record of all Big 12 opponents KU played was 26-38.
They didn't have to play Texas, Texas Tech, or Oklahoma that year. Generally, three guaranteed losses every year. So I'm not sure that's the year everyone should be hoping to duplicate.
I don't think Beaty's the answer, but neither do I think he's the reason for continual losing football at KU.
I think another important aspect is getting Bowen out as well. Beaty is clueless but it's long past time for Bowen to be out.
@Wigs2 Get the right coach and money going into the program and you can play above your historical station. KSU did that for awhile, Clemson is doing it now*. KU did it with Mangino. The money aspect is really important. The next hire needs to be good to put butts in seats. Football money is huge.
*Not saying KU can get to Clemson's level at all. KU clearly has a lower floor and ceiling.
@Wigs2 Agee some what for sure. - -There was a lot of people that when KU hired Charlie Weis - thought OK, ya know here we go - - we all saw how THAT turned out- - with Grand master plan people think Dammmmmmmmmmmm , especially when we had these what a lot of people again thought , man 5 star -Jake Heaps came into the program - - and Crist came in - total diasters .
I feel like that even IF Les Miles comes in , there are going to be some people ONCE again think all right now we gonna kick some ass. - -This is kind of along the lines of what your talking about. KU will never be a football power. - what you showed pretty well goes right along with that.
Then again I think people would think along the lines If he could get us started back , bring us back to some kind of respectibilty we would be happy with that. Just so many so frustrated at pretty much being the laughing stock of America in this present football program. -- - just a least have some respect - -right now others look at when we come on their schedule and just laugh.
4 , 5 , 6 wins I think if you were to ask and IF people were perfectly honest could settle for that , some bowl games mixed in people could handle that. At least be able to look for to going out on a fall Saturday afternoon and be able to actually enjoy going to the game and watch a well contested game and be able to watch the guys compete I think that would be nice
BShark said:
I think another important aspect is getting Bowen out as well. Beaty is clueless but it's long past time for Bowen to be out.
@Wigs2 Get the right coach and money going into the program and you can play above your historical station. KSU did that for awhile, Clemson is doing it now*. KU did it with Mangino. The money aspect is really important. The next hire needs to be good to put butts in seats. Football money is huge.
*Not saying KU can get to Clemson's level at all. KU clearly has a lower floor and ceiling.
sorry man but I have to totally disagree with you on Clint's side of the ball. The defense is much better. Yesterday is a perfect example.
Other then two big plays yesterday the defense did more then hold there own. - -ONE of those two our DB was in perfect position , the only problem was all in height. - -One was 6'6 Hasan was a good 6-7 inches shorter just out jumped him plain truth. Great goal line defense. - -Leads the Nation in opposition true nothing yesterday but still . The defense kept it respectable - -only outscored 7-3 in the 2nd half yesterday.
If it wasn't for the defense - you look other then the points they did have - they didn't have even any other possibilities - excluding the goal line stand. - now you look at our possibilities?
Robinson drops a wide open TD pass - that's 7 - - - Deep in ISU territory Robinson stripped - -7 or 3 at the very least. - - - I think twice we were inside the ten couldn't score. Still stimid as to why when you have the ball at like the three been running well and all of a sudden you throw THREE straight passes don't even try to run it once - -that's Beaty play calling. - -No not at all on the defense - -They have shown a lot of improvement , still having to be on the field way to long , because of our inept Offense
@Wigs2 Beatty had four seasons. It's his baby. He ran the show, and chose the wrong path. He didn't get the athletes here for the system he chose to run.
The key is the right coach. I do think success can be achieved here. It's been proven. It seems wildly pessimistic to think it can't when there is clear evidence that it can. Further, "success" is relative. I'm suggesting we can be what Iowa St. has been. Or even KSU or OSU. Again, we've proven before that we can be that good.
I've said this before, and said this before Keegan did a full column on it, one path to respectability is to run the flexbone like GT, or Army, etc. It will not win you a national title, it won't likely get you to some respectable bowl game, but you'll win. And you'll get to (less respectable) bowl games. That is what I think Beatty should have done. Beatty tried to run a system offensively that he was sorely undermanned to operate successfully. It's his fault.
But with a new coach coming in, and hopefully better recruiting, there may be better paths than the flexbone. But I can assure you this, if we can't recruit much better, running the flexbone is really the only option to increase success.
Shortening the game is HUGE when you are at a talent disadvantage. A run heavy scheme also greatly benefits the defense.
Woodrow said:
@Wigs2 itās not just about a coaching change. It is about a culture change. This program needs a reboot.
Absolutely agree with you. A good deal of the KU fan base seems to be of the opinion that because it has an elite basketball program a mediocre to average football program is all we can expect. Yes, at this time the floor is pretty low but he ceiling is the same as any other P5 school. I also understand that a much longer and steeper set of stairs is needed but if it had started building slowly a few years ago the program would be much closer to the ceiling than to the floor. KU needs to find a superior coach and pay him accordingly and move on. I seem to recall reading that in recent years KU has paid more to (former) coaches for not coaching than coaches for actual coaching; this trend needs to stop and the culture needs to change.
@BShark Exactly. The longer the game, the more likely the better team wins. Further, the flexbone is a preparation nightmare not just because of the run focus, but the nature of how the run plays develop (significant misdirection and different angles of attack) and play action passing. Much different than the more conventional run focus by a team like KSU.
@JayHawkFanToo It appears we might have been better off paying the coaches this season to NOT coach as well ....
Soo has anyone heard anymore about Beaty? - - they suppose to have a conference at 12:00 but haven't seen anything officially to announce anything
@jayballer73 just a release today, and a presser once the new coach is hired. At least thatās last I knew
KU hasnāt released anything. There was never a PC scheduled for noon today. That was just a rumor.
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KC stations ā reporting but citing another station as source so reliability is suspect.
FarmerJayhawk said:
@jayballer73 just a release today, and a presser once the new coach is hired. At least thatās last I knew
Oh so today they jut announcing he has been let go and such - -then a press release when we DO hire a new coach
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jayballer73 said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
@jayballer73 just a release today, and a presser once the new coach is hired. At least thatās last I knew
Oh so today they jut announcing he has been let go and such - -then a press release when we DO hire a new coach
Which might happen tonight.
Sounds like it. I wonāt believe it until he puts on the hat
@HighEliteMajor As I said previously, I'm not saying Beaty's the guy. I just think way too much of the blame has been put on him. And people who think a Miles or Doeren, or anyone else is going to all of a sudden make KU a consistent winner--or even a.500 team--is probably going to be disappointed.
I may be wrong but I just don't think it will happen.
Presser for firing or is a hiring happening today? Not a lot of options if we are hiring someone. Miles, Beilma, Mora, Jones are about the only guys I can think of if we hired someone right now
I donāt think a presser has been confirmed.
Itās in Longās release.
@Wigs2 at this point, heās a problem. Look at how unorganized this team is. We run a trick plays almost every game but can barely execute a normal play. Our o-line play is a joke. Small schools are able to put together a line capable of not letting their QB get killed. Our playcalling gets stale as games go on. There is nothing even close to special about our offense. We are an āair raidā offense that canāt score 20 points.
Maybe someone else canāt fix it either, but Beaty has shown that he definitely canāt.
Woodrow said:
I donāt think a presser has been confirmed.
They gave the press release - -said they would have more around 6 tonight
@HighEliteMajor Before I looked into all the history of the program, I was kinda hopeful that a new coach could come in and turn it around. But I didn't realize that, in the last 60 years, every coach except Mangino had a losing record. His was only 50 wins and 48 losses over 8 years. I'm just not real confident that another new coach can make this a respectable program. I have been a fan since I was a kid in the 1950s, so I hope I'm wrong. Also I hope it doesn't take so long that I won't be around to see it.
I think most of us are realists. But, 6-39 isn't going to cut it. I'd gladly take a guy with a .450ish winning percentage and puts out a product that sees a bowl game every 2-3 seasons and just generally puts out a football team that at least has a chance to win most weekends. Make the KSU rivalry fun. Pull off an upset every so often.
Just don't be a laughing stock at this point.
The next coach is going to be Les Miles. The people that expect him to replicate his LSU success will be in for a disappointing tenure because that won't happen. Miles replicating what he did at Oklahoma State is a realistic possibility. While OSU wasn't in the same boat KU is in now, they weren't a good program when he took over. An occasional 7 or 8 win season mixed in with a lot of 3 and 4 win seasons was the better part of OSU's recent history prior to Les Miles.
Next year, the defense will take a step back because of what they're going to lose along the front 7. The secondary will be the strength of the defense next year.
The offense won't be exciting because Miles runs a pro style offense, but he will at least be able to get the ball to Pooka in open space via screens and read options with Stanley or Kendrick at QB next year.
@Kcmatt7 completely agree. I think the majority of fans just want a team that is competitive on almost every Saturday. Beatys teams havenāt sniffed that. Sure there are going to be days that you run into a OU hitting on all cylinders and you get beat by 30 like KSU did last week. It shouldnāt happen week in and week out to teams that are not very good though.
Iād be happy if you told me our team would win somewhere between 4-8 games every year.
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Decent list here by Thamel.
Well just got through listening to Longs talk. Kind of interesting he states that Age will not be a factor.
He stated that because of the Early Signing period and transfers where a pat of the reason for announcing now about the change.
He said just since the announcing of this today has had multiple inquiries from potential Coach's. - -- Hmm found it interesting WHY some media would even ask about being open to minorities . -- Of Course he would - if he finds someone who would be interested and they meet the qualifications - -why wouldn't he. - -As long as they can get this turned around - -I don't give a rats ass whether he is White -- Black - -Red -- Blue - -Yellow = I'm not interested in his skin color - -I'm only interested in someone that can help dig us out of this hole.
He says the fans are a big part of the solution . got to get them back. - -
I think in a way he kind of countradicted himself - -He said he has no timeline BUT yet on the other hand he talked about the Early signing period and transfers - -makes me think he is wanting to get this done soon. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
I thought along did a fine job. Took all the questions and answered them nicely. There could have been some better questions but thatās on the media.
@jayballer73 I just donāt think he want d to put a specific timeline on it. He didnāt want to say this will be done in 10 days, because if something happens and he doesnāt meet that timeline then people freak out. I feel pretty confident that he will have named a new coach by Dec 1 at the very latest.
A couple thoughts.
-Long has a plan, and he's sticking to it. He was never going to rush into anything, like firing Beaty after Nicholls. Agree or disagree with the plan, but he's had one and now we can all see the wheels are in motion.
-He really wants fan support. He's not blaming the fans like some like to bitch about, but you could see he was pissed at ISU having more fans than KU at Memorial yesterday. Could he have been more artful? Sure. But I kind of liked seeing some emotion. He's just asking for fan support. What kind of CEO doesn't ask for consumers to try their product or service? We'd all hate him for being apathetic and mailing it in if he didn't mention getting fan support, and rightly so.
-He has a list of candidates in his head, and knows who's serious and who isn't. Guessing that those who are actually serious called up Long before today. Those who just called are probably in the camp of trying to get a raise from their current employers. Could've been a jab telling those guys to not even bother.
-Related to the process, I like that he's taking charge and not hiring a stupid search firm that comes up with the same list that we could here, just for seven figures more. Keep it in house and make the decision. Also was clear there has to be a formal process. We can't just call up Les and tell him he's the guy tomorrow. KU is public so there are some EEOC type things we have to do first. Which is fine, that's the nature of the beast, but I don't expect the list within the list to be very long.
-On the timeline, it'll be done quickly. By keeping it in house and calling it "all encompassing," Long has staked out that he's going to do this right and do it quickly so the new guy can start recruiting immediately to have a semblance of a class together by the early signing period. That tells me it'll be done no later than December 1.
-At the end of the process, I still think it's Miles. He checks all the boxes Long articulated both on Twitter and in his presser. Doesn't seem like the type to outsmart himself.
Rumor is that Long is asking donors for the money specifically for Miles.
The last KU game is on Friday November 23, so I expect the announcement to come about one week later or at the end of November or very first part of December.
Grunhard was on 810 this morning and said he talked to Doreen and he is not interested. Grunny said KU passed on him twice and that ship has sailed.
@Woodrow Not surprising that he isn't interested anymore. It's really hard to believe that anyone would pick Weis or Beaty over him. Hopefully Long at least uses common sense unlike Zenger. Supposedly when KU hired Gill, Harbaugh and Tuberville were both highly interested in the job.
Heard during the Duke-UK game last night that Miles is coming for a Visit to KU - -well actually this morning watching the replay that is what they has said
@jayballer73 It's going to be Les.
BShark said:
@jayballer73 It's going to be Les.
Ya I think so - -and actually I think it's going to ve soon. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Read where the QB Coach might have an interest , he was the Arkansas offensive Cordinator 2015-17- -His name is Dan Enos. - -He ran pro style under Enos coached Brandon Allen ( 2016 threw for 3,000 yds Brandon led the Nation in QB efficiency threw for 3,440 yards and 30 TD's in 2016. - -that's great but we don't have that Caliber of QB.
Was 4 Seasons at Michigan State as assistant Coach
Left Central Michigan wit a 26-36 record- -last loss to - - KU 24-10 and this is the Coach we would want? lol 3 6 win seasons - -went to 2 bowl appearances 1-1 I dunno - -think I would pas. ROCK CHALK ALLDAY LONG BABY
jayballer73 said:
Read where the QB Coach might have an interest , he was the Arkansas offensive Cordinator 2015-17- -His name is Dan Enos. - -He ran pro style under Enos coached Brandon Allen ( 2016 threw for 3,000 yds Brandon led the Nation in QB efficiency threw for 3,440 yards and 30 TD's in 2016. - -that's great but we don't have that Caliber of QB.
Was 4 Seasons at Michigan State as assistant Coach
Left Central Michigan wit a 26-36 record- -last loss to - - KU 24-10 and this is the Coach we would want? lol 3 6 win seasons - -went to 2 bowl appearances 1-1 I dunno - -think I would pas. ROCK CHALK ALLDAY LONG BABY
Oh and that is a real link for anyone wondering. :joy:
Enos more likely is interested in being Lesās OC. Locksley, not Enos, calls plays at Bama. Enos is looking to get back after it. If the rumored names for assistants work out, itās going to be a hell of a staff.
@FarmerJayhawk Enos could be a solid guy to have on the staff, not sure he would be ready or able to tackle this job as a HC.
FarmerJayhawk said:
Enos more likely is interested in being Lesās OC. Locksley, not Enos, calls plays at Bama. Enos is looking to get back after it. If the rumored names for assistants work out, itās going to be a hell of a staff.
Article says he is the QB Coach and associate head Coach for Saban - -so ya your right. -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Some Smoke coming out about Justin Fuente... I doubt the trigger gets pulled but I'd love the hire.
Kcmatt7 said:
Some Smoke coming out about Justin Fuente... I doubt the trigger gets pulled but I'd love the hire.
Where are you seeing this? That would be amazing. But thereās no way itās happening since the search is done.
I'm looking, but I can't find it again. If I come across the link again I'll shoot it to you. I doubt he gets fired regardless, but it would immediately have become my #1 choice.
I know Les is probably the guy, but I'm going to keep my ears and eyes open until there is some pen to paper.
Al the rumors about Fuente are from a year ago when FSU and Tennessee( among other big programs) were allegedly interested. He was not interested then and does not seem to be interested now and, if he wants to leave, he would be at the top of every list and KU would have zero chance of getting him...short of making him the highest paid coach in college football.
@JayHawkFanToo Not the one I saw today. I'm still looking, I'll find it again at some point. But after a 4-4 start and a bad loss to a bad ODU team, fans aren't happy. They aren't happy with the offense and the defense has been truly terrible in some games.
My inside sources tell me Pooka will be heading to Texas A&M next season regardless of whom is named coach.
Wheels coming off...
@JayHawkFanToo I wouldnāt say itās in stone but my sources swears he heard straight outta his dads mouth. If Miles comes and he transfers, Iād call him a fool.
Yeah Pookaās dad keeps saying heās an SEC back and real football blah blah. If he wants to leave an offense where heāll be featured for the next 3 years thatās on him.
Petrino fired at Louisville, does it mean competition for KU for Miles?
@JayHawkFanToo Yes I think so
@JayHawkFanToo Not really. They are going to hire Brohm from Purdue.
Miles to KU isn't going to change unless something drastic happens like Michigan firing Harbaugh and offering Miles (Neither will happen this year). Brohm to Louisville is a pretty solid bet as well.
That would leave Purdue and Maryland competing against each other which since they're both B10 programs, will probably have a lot of overlap.
I don't think this will be a very busy year for coaching changes among P5 conference programs. The only other jobs I could see opening up from a firing are North Carolina, Rutgers, and Ole Miss. Louisville is probably the only one, maybe North Carolina or Ole Miss too, that will hire an active P5 coach to fill their vacancy.
Texas Hawk 10 said:
Miles to KU isn't going to change unless something drastic happens like Michigan firing Harbaugh and offering Miles (Neither will happen this year). Brohm to Louisville is a pretty solid bet as well.
That would leave Purdue and Maryland competing against each other which since they're both B10 programs, will probably have a lot of overlap.
I don't think this will be a very busy year for coaching changes among P5 conference programs. The only other jobs I could see opening up from a firing are North Carolina, Rutgers, and Ole Miss. Louisville is probably the only one, maybe North Carolina or Ole Miss too, that will hire an active P5 coach to fill their vacancy.
Michigan will never hire Les. Bridges were burned.
@Texas-Hawk-10 If it hasn't already happened I read where the USC coach is on the hot seat as well - - probably gone , if that's the case that might be a challenge with Miles
There's always one or two surprise firings. I don't have my ear to the ground on football as much as basketball, but with the leash as short as it is at the D1 level, and the P5 level in particular, it wouldn't surprise me to see some jobs open up.
Remember, coaches can also be derailed by scandal. I wouldn't have guessed the Maryland job would be open, but it is. Michigan State and Ohio State probably won't be open, but there are scenarios that could open those jobs up.
Nobody expected that Baylor would fire Art Briles until the house was already burning down. Nobody thought K-State fans would ever be unhappy with Bill Snyder, but here we are.
I would guess that a P5 job that isn't on anybody's radar today will come open this offseason, and that job will throw a wrinkle into everyone's hiring process.
So heard on the radio a name and I honestly haven't heard about him but who is this Graham - -I think they said 10 bowl games in his last 12 years - -sounds like there might be some baggage though. - Anyone? - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Ahhh so found out. - - He was the Arizona State Coach - -has an overall record of like 94-51 - -10 bowl games in 12 years , also Coached at Tulsa -- and Pitt. - -The Garbage supposedly is he left Tulsa in the middle of the night and text his assistants that they no longer had a job , has beaten some upper programs.
Being said mutual interest. - -Some saying would make sense with Long's trip that went to Arizona and the Louisiana stop that didn't happen. - -Sooo let's hear cause I don't know - -is he a guy we would want? -Several said he would be a great hire. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Todd Graham, former coach at Arizona State. Beaty was one of his assistant coaches at Rice. Here is a link with more information ā. At this time Long needs to have some options otherwise Miles has all the leverage; could be a decent option.
noooooooooooooooooooooooo
If the next head coach isnāt Les Miles, Dave Doren or Seth Littrell Iāll be skeptical.
I don't want DD but otherwise agree.
@BShark Doeren would be a great hire if KU could get him this time, but Zenger may have burnt that bridge beyond repair. He's done a nice rebuild at NC State.
Personally, I think I would like Doeren to be the coach after Miles. Let Miles come here for however long and build the foundation and make KU an attractive place and then bring Doeren in after Miles to continue trying to elevate the program.
Texas Hawk 10 said:
@BShark Doeren would be a great hire if KU could get him this time, but Zenger may have burnt that bridge beyond repair. He's done a nice rebuild at NC State.
Personally, I think I would like Doeren to be the coach after Miles. Let Miles come here for however long and build the foundation and make KU an attractive place and then bring Doeren in after Miles to continue trying to elevate the program.
This is a really solid idea but like you said DD may be done with KU due to Zenger.
JayHawkFanToo said:
Todd Graham, former coach at Arizona State. Beaty was one of his assistant coaches at Rice. Here is a link with more information ā. At this time Long needs to have some options otherwise Miles has all the leverage; could be a decent option.
Todd Graham is not a decent option. Graham may have won games, but two of his head coaching jobs only lasted for a year before he bolted, including his "dream job" at Pitt. He would treat KU as a stepping stone and nothing else. KU can do better than Graham.
I can't figure out why it's taking so long to name the next coach? Why fire a coach still in season if you don't have another coach on the line. Rumors floating the reason Miles hasn't been named yet is because of his last contract. I guess he gets a big pay day at the end of the month. Yet man KU needs to get on that recruiting trail.
I saw where Les gets his buyout payments from LSU on the 30th of every month. Could he be wanting to milk one more payment out of them before signing with KU?
If I were Les Miles, I'd wait to see what all comes open first anyways. That Purdue gig could be nice now that Brohm did all of the hard work. I wouldn't rule out a return to OSU. Gundy's days may be numbered. The OU job could be open (not that he'd get it), etc.
There will be a lot of better jobs open up. It will take a financial commitment and a long contract to get Miles here. It's only smart for him to see what else could be out there for him.
KU also need some leverage. If Miles knows he is the only option he can ask and get a lot more money; however. if KU is looking at more than one viable prospect then it has some leverage in the negotiations.
I would be STUNNED if it wasn't Miles.
Just pondering. Miles is 65. Why sign up for such a dumpster fire ... unless you have no other options? Which begs the question of whether you want a guy with no other options? But I can't argue with the name and results. Would be a home run on paper. Amazing actually. I expect something like a double, but perhaps back picked over-running second.
If not Miles, I like Jeff Tedford as the next best, and then the two service academy coaches (Army/Air Force). But I will trust Jeff Long and not second guess for a while.
Am listening to talk about the foot ball program right now from local sports. - - Jeff Long is getting the sports media pretty pissed. -- I guess for the SECOND time about the KU staff taking and leaving and headed out for Louisiana - -which every thing indicates about Les Miles.
Well today Jesse Newell and some others heard that the flight schedule supposed had two planes leaving and it was scheduled for Louisiana.
So media headed to the KU airport come to find out - -that one of the Airplanes doesn't even exhist not registered at all. - The one that is registered - -was actually scheduled to head West towards Colorado. - -Really can't figure why these reports are coming out.
Newell said he has heard from or talk about some of the Big Donars - all talking about and support Les Miles , said they haven't heard anything that's it's not going to be Les Miles.
Can't figure out WHY Long is doing this - -Newell said he may think it's funny , to others it might be funny but upsetting to media - - - sounds kind of weird.
"Dumpster Fire" ?
Really?
We have a loooooong ways to go (UPWARDS) if we desire to be at dumpster fire level.
I suspect Miles will be in the candidate list for every opening so, while KU might be his preferred choice based on his relationship with Long, by no means will be his only choice.
I believe it is more important for KU to have more than one option otherwise it has no leverage in the negotiations.
@jayballer73 - I suspect Long wants to keep this close to the vest, avoiding (or maybe encouraging?) speculation. Heās a pro and is having a good time. Personally, itās better than total silence. Over on The Phog , thereās 150+ pages in a single topic on a new football coach. The vast majority of it came in about 5 hours yesterday. Itās hilarious and every poster was having a great time. One guy (appparently illegally) went onto airport grounds to take pictures of people emerging from the aircraft. (I donāt doubt alcohol was involved! š). Iām going to roll with it and enjoy the ride. Weāll know soon enough!
Over on the LJW site , they had kind of like the NCAA basketball tournament listing the some possibly named people and brackets , they had people vote for like each round , It came down to the Championship round and it was between Les Miles and Dave Doreen , and the winner from the votes was Dave Doreen - -- -Interesting. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@jayballer73 Sold!!
Charlie Weiss was successful (more or less) at ND and was a flop here. Not sold on the idea that someone can come here based on success elsewhere. Remember Les got run out of town 2 years ago. I remember it well. I lived there, heard all my friends rip their NC winning coach up and down. I said you won't really appreciate what you had until he's gone, then it's too late. He did have some flaws. But I always liked him and would love to see him at KU.
@wissox Charlie Weis flopped hard at Notre Dame once it was mostly his recruits. Weis was also looking to use KU as a springboard and pretty much said so from day 1.
Les Miles isn't looking to move up to a bigger name program again. He's someone that can likely give KU 8-10 years because bigger programs won't be poaching him. He can be like what Frank Solich has been at Ohio. After that, Miles should have KU in a good enough place that the person after Miles can be a big name up and comer and be given a reasonable shot at instant success.
The biggest knocks on Miles is his offense which is a pro style system and his clock management which was extremely frustrating to watch over the years.
Miles does utilize a fullback and tight end which isn't something you see in the Big 12 much. He also utilized the Pistol formation a lot towards the end. His biggest struggle is going to be finding a pro style QB to run his system because his offense was it's most successful with JaMarcus Russell and Matt Flynn running the show. He's always struggled to utilize mobile QB's to their fullest so that would be a concern in the immediate.
@wissox Iām not sure Iād call Weisās tenure at ND successful. He won 19 games his first two seasons with some highly talented recruits that Willingham had brought in. ND went 7-5 the year Willingham was fired before losing the bowl game and looked like they were a year away before Weis was hired. I only know a few ND guys but they werenāt happy that Willingham wasnāt given more time with talent he brung in. Once those guys cleared out Weis went 16-21 in his final 3 seasons. He inherited a solid group and a good foundation, better than most head coaches go into IMO and ran into the ground. Why we hired a guy that couldnāt win with resources that ND has, is still mind boggling at best. Now one could say Miles was fired from LSU and he was. But he was fired for not beating Alabama every year, the man averaged over 10 wins a year in the toughest conference in the land. I personally just want a hire that has common sense behind it, Gill had 1 winning season at buffalo, Weis was a joke after a few seasons at ND and Beaty had no experience as a HC, only one as an OC that was a complete disaster albeit. Thatās why Iām hoping we can do something to lure in one of the trio of Littrell, Miles and Doren.
HighEliteMajor said:
@jayballer73 Sold!!
Lo -- sorry bud I'm not even sure who that is. -- Is that the guy from North Carolina State ? -- Arizona State ? - -sorry I remember seeing his name , just can't remember where he is from. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@Texas-Hawk-10 I've posted before about Les , So no one think the thought of signing Les to like a five year Contract and renewable if he wants to go longer. - -Yet at least five years -- -let Les retain Tony Hull , let Tony be an understudy for those 5 years, --teach him , then if Les retires after the 5 years after studying under Les for those 5 years promote Tony as the Head Coach. - What Tony has been in Division 1 foot ball for 2 years with Coaching duties- - -give the 5 under Les so there would be 7 years and let him take over - - -be able to maintain good recruiting ties to the boot? -- -I think that could work.-- -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@kjayhawks I don't follow college football closely enough to comment obviously. I thought Weiss had done fairly well at ND. What about Mangino? Was that a hire that made sense? He had no HC experience as I recall. Obviously it worked out fabulously, but sometimes hires make perfect sense and they don't work out and other times they make no sense and work out.
@wissox Sorry @Texas-Hawk-10 post was thru when I did mine not to look like I was harping or beating a dead horse. Yes MM was a coordinator but a dam good one, that 1998 KSU team(IMO the best KSU football team ever) that choked in the B12 title game against A&M was with him as an OC, he also had a great eye for talent and convinced Floridian Micheal Bishop to come to Manhattan. He was also the OC on Bob Stoops 2000 NC team. We need a proven head coach in this situation IMO, we canāt take a big risk such as a Beaty. A OC could work forsure but MM had way better credentials than Beaty by light years. Beatys claim to fame was as a WR coach at A&M, which turned out to be a one hit wonder under Sumlin. MM made sense because he had been a part of 2 major rebuilding projects, one in Kansas even and KU wasnāt near as bad as they currently are. Its very sad that Terry Allen would be an improvement but it certainly appears that way right now (he averaged over 4 wins per year).
So kind of an interesting perspective I a article of Phog. net
The article talks about a name as a possible head coach or possibly even becoming a Offensive Cordinator for KU
The guy is former UCLA Jedd Fisch. The article stated that Jedd Fisch might have been in close proximity to wherever KU'S private jet took off to on Tuesday. On Tuesday Detroit-News . com Angelique Chingelis who covers Michigan reported that former Michigan pass game Jeff Fisch is in consideration for the Head Coaching position at KU - -OR as possible staff as Offensive Cordinator.
Jeff is currently offensive asst of the Los Angles Rams. The reasoning for thinking might have talked - -as we all know now The Rams were recently practicing in Colorado springs. - - KU was in Colorado too.
Fisch , was the offensive Offensive Cord in 2017 for UCLA - - -that Season was one of prominence for UCLA - -they were averaging like 44 points a game through the 1 - -eight games I think it said Rosen took a step for that season with Fisch running the offense. -- hmmm kind of interesting. - - OR they also said that they may have been talking with Troy Calhoun too possible - -hell might of been talking to both. who knows? - -One thing Matt Tait talked about too on another article said he thinks the longer this search goes on - - the less he thinks Les Miles comes to KU - -I agree. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
I would be less than thrilled with that hire I think.
Kcmatt7 said:
I would be less than thrilled with that hire I think.
What if he is the OC?
FarmerJayhawk said:
I would be STUNNED if it wasn't Miles.
Reminder with the LSU buyout settlement.
Rumors of an announcement could be coming tomorrow in regards to Les Miles being the next football coach of KU.
@Texas-Hawk-10 He just agreed to a buyout. Looks like it's done.
Texas Hawk 10 said:
Rumors of an announcement could be coming tomorrow in regards to Les Miles being the next football coach of KU.
Man I hope so , should be able to get out and try to salvage a few recruits yet for this year coming up hopefully. - - We know it's going to be hard - -but maybe he can hit the road. ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Bwag said:
BShark said:
@mayjay That's some quality right there.
I'm about to try Dalwhinnie 15 year.
How about a Laphroig - no one would call it smooth and some might say it was a good representation of our football program.
A good distillery. Lately I've been having Oban. Their 18 year is something else, incredible.
@JayHawkFanToo Could be. But if KU signs him to a long term guaranteed deal, that long term deal just replaces what he had coming anyway with LSU (plus more), and he gets to coach. But he also gains $1.5 million.
By the terms of the buyout, it was pretty obvious that LSU had some leverage. They knew he wanted to coach and saved $4 million or so. Miles loses nothing even without an up front payment and gets $1.5 million.
It looks like KU may, for once, be playing this exactly right. They look like they are hiring a HC (and maybe coordinators) that are not currently tied to CFB programs. This means that group may be able to salvage this recruiting class if the hiring happens by Monday. That would be a distraction for the current staff, but honestly, this season is lost anyway, so it makes sense to salvage what you can for the future.
The Mike Vernon twitter rampage about Les Miles is just amazing right now.
Kcmatt7 said:
The Mike Vernon twitter rampage about Les Miles is just amazing right now.
Is the rampage tweeting in a good way or bad way as far as Kansas is concerned about Miles?
Kcmatt7 said:
The Mike Vernon twitter rampage about Les Miles is just amazing right now.
It's so great having good ku media presence. Gotta try to balance out the mutards and such.
Halftime of the Basketball Game would be one hell of a way to introduce Miles...
Not quite...Miles would have gotten an additional $4M for doing nothing, now he has to work to make up that loss.
@JayHawkFanToo Definitely a reasonable assumption
@JayHawkFanToo The rumor is that Miles will be hired this weekend along with possibly an offensive and/or defensive coordinators so they can get started on recruiting since there's a ton of work to do on that front for the new coach to savage something from this class. The rumor is the meeting with Fisch was for a coordinator position under Miles.
None of that is confirmed, but that's the rumors going around.
If Miles is hired I would think they would give Beaty the option to leave immediately and have one of the assistants finish the season. It would be very awckward for Beaty to coach with the new coach watching over his shoulders.
@JayHawkFanToo but, Beaty wants to finish, I think.
Crimsonorblue22 said:
@JayHawkFanToo but, Beaty wants to finish, I think.
Yes, but I would think this is the case if a new coach has not been hired. Once a new HC is announced/hired it becomes very uncomfortable for Beaty.
Beaty is coaching for a coordinators job somewhere at this point. He's not going to be a head coach, but if he shows something in the next couple of weeks, he could find himself a decent landing spot.
As @Texas-Hawk-10 said, the new staff has some significant recruiting work to do. KU is the only school in the country with fewer than 8 commitments for next season. That's a huge hole to fill. Every second that passes is a wasted opportunity for next season. Whoever gets this job needs to be on the recruiting trail immediately, if not sooner.
Considering the body of work available for Beaty, the last two games are not going to make any difference at all.
@JayHawkFanToo Miles wouldn't be in Lawrence though if he's hired before the season is over. He would be out recruiting instead of in the office. Most players wouldn't be having much contact with Miles until spring ball anyway because of the rules.
Twitter is saying the deal is nearly done for Miles.
justanotherfan said:
Twitter is saying the deal is nearly done for Miles.
Itās been done in principle for awhile now. Only holdups have been LSUās buyout and the assistant coaching pool.
Iām still shocked. Long was clearly a home run hire. This Girod dude might be ok himself.
Kcmatt7 said:
Iām still shocked. Long was clearly a home run hire. This Girod dude might be ok himself.
Amazingly huge improvements over the last person at their position for each of them. BGL can burn in hell if that existed.
Glad to see what sure looks like anyways - with Miles hire. - I'm STILL gonna approach , this at least for awhile with caution.
I'm just tired of getting my hopes up - - , then Weiss, takes a crap on this thing -- BOTH his QB'S he got in here - -did the same
I am going to try and temper my expectations - - -hoping people not expecting for him to come in and take us to un-realistic things this 1st year. - -Now if he could come in we win our non con games - get 2-3 wins in the big 12 his 1st year that would be awesome-doubt that will happen.
On another note wondering now - -with Les coming aboard and possibly Tony stayin on board - -wonder if Pooka STAYS in stead of transferring like the rumor has been. -- then also would be kind of nice if they could get Fisch as the OC - -maybe that's why long might of been talking to him in Colorado - -would be a nice stat. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
BShark said:
Kcmatt7 said:
Iām still shocked. Long was clearly a home run hire. This Girod dude might be ok himself.
Amazingly huge improvements over the last person at their position for each of them. BGL can burn in hell if that existed.
Academically Bernie was really good, but most donāt really care about how KU does as a university as long as they win.
@JayHawkFanToo No, you miss the point. You said he took a big cut and thus he would get a big signing bonus. I said that is not needed.
Of course he has to work. And he obviously wants to work. So he gets what he wants.
But that isnāt the point. He is in a better position. He will get a guaranteed deal that far exceeds what he was guaranteed before. So the contract replaces what he gave up and more. Plus he got $1.5 million essentially for free.
FarmerJayhawk said:
BShark said:
Kcmatt7 said:
Iām still shocked. Long was clearly a home run hire. This Girod dude might be ok himself.
Amazingly huge improvements over the last person at their position for each of them. BGL can burn in hell if that existed.
Academically Bernie was really good, but most donāt really care about how KU does as a university as long as they win.
Fair point. It felt like she almost had a disdain for athletics.
Hard to tell considering we donāt even know what his contract with KU is or will be or if there will even be one.
He was due $5.5M and he had to do absolutely nothing to get it and settled for $1.5, so he gave up $4M so he can go to work with a chance to make up the $4M and hopefully more. I will guess that his signing bonus will compensate for the $4M he gave up.
@JayHawkFanToo His salary here will likely be in the $3-4 million per year range, possibly more. He'll make that money back in 2 seasons tops and he will be here at least that long.
Channel 5 in KC saying the contract with Miles is a done deal quoting Sports Illustrated. It also indicated that Miles would only work with an AD he trusted and ours just earned his salary in spades. Sound like it is finally happening...
Texas Hawk 10 said:
@JayHawkFanToo His salary here will likely be in the $3-4 million per year range, possibly more. He'll make that money back in 2 seasons tops and he will be here at least that long.
Accurate. I think the base will be 3.5 with some incentives that could bump it over 4.
Yep, itās all but wrapped. I expect them to finish the deal tomorrow or Sunday with an intro Monday.
@JayHawkFanToo Here it is:
https://www.si.com/college-football/2018/11/16/les-miles-kansas-hiring-head-coach-contract ā
Includes an interesting review of Miles coaching--and acting!--careers
@JayHawkFanToo I'm sorry, I just don't think you're tracking. If he wanted to, he could sit on his butt and get $6.5 million. He didn't want to sit on his butt.
So, he gets $1.5 million and a contract of likely 5 years, $3.5 million per year. Or $17.5. million guaranteed. His LSU deal would have paid him another $5 million by 2023. Or a total of $6.5 by 2023.
He would be owed by KU that full $17.5 million by close of 2023 under this scenario. So he gets the $5 million he left at LSU plus an additional $12.5, plus the $1.5 million for closing the LSU deal.
This is not "hard to tell." This concept happens all the time with coaches. The numbers just change with each deal.
We are looking at it from a different perspective, thatās all.
poster talking on another site mentioned that there is a flight leaving at 7:10 a.m leaving from Raleigh Durham to Topeka Regional landing at 9;21 a.m. -- hmmm sounds like this COUD BE the day maybe? - -TiM Brando sure sounded like that Today might be the day , friend of Les.- -we shall see. - Really proud of these guys last night.
I know it doesn't make any difference just simply want to say ya Coach has to go , but so proud how classy he has remained - -he truly does love this KU program just in over his head. No doubt this team has improved just missed some opportunities good guy, - -and to those who says didn't use Pooka enough , well he sure did last night. - - Pooka ran for 252 yards - -- caught numerous passes - - -- threw for a touchdown - -and to cap it off returned kick off's - -how else could he get him involved? - -IF Les is the Coach- - -man he better sit down with Pooka - - he better make a serious effort to keep Tony - -keep the boot fully intact with this program -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Haha I told a few of my KSU buddies that KU had hired Les Miles. Apparently they didnāt know. You shouldāve seen the look of fear and confusion in their eyes!
Now they know so they can come up with ammo, but for now they are scared silent. Really it was a nice birthday bonus for me yesterday!
Les has ARRIVED - - seen the plane come in out at Forbes this morning - right about close to 10 -- -seen him get off the plane - - KU picked him up - - LES IS HERE ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY - -the time has come
Yep. Presser today.
BShark said:
Yep. Presser today.
would love to be able to hear what he has to say. Just don't know what time or if they carrying it