Keeping the titles simple here.
Bring it on.
Cool the army rappelling in!
I will not complain about things today.
Let's go Jayhawks
Franš¤®
And thanks to Stanford and UNC for not dragging it out. Hate it when the early game runs long.
Crimsonorblue22 said:
Franš¤®
Other guy is a Missouri grad...
Whereās our game?
And, of course, thanks to all who served...
Jeez, please cut away from these two boring snoozers
Oh jeez
Geaux Jayhawks.
Vick's shot looks to be back in alignment
Encouraging start for LGV
Good thing Vick made that lol
Like I said, encouraging start for LGV
At this point, Vick is the best guy to feed the post too
Why did Vick change his number? He was 2 last year if I aint mistaken
It was a Bible thing I think?
wissox said:
Why did Vick change his number? He was 2 last year if I aint mistaken
When Vick declared, Charlie took his number.
Too bad on that walk. I like the thought.
Not a travel.
No walk
vick in 24 is kind of like watching Michael Jordan wearing 45
Weak call
Refs take a walk
Didn't think this team would catamount to much
Yikes!
It's not a 14-0 run. Doke scored.
3-4 from 3 lmao
perimeter D is poor
4-5 rofl
@KirkIsMyHinrich It just feels like it.
Redic
When we take this game serious we will win
Respect ernie
I'm not sold on that 12 foot shot from Grimes yet.
I don't want Kansas to lose, but this is good for them.
Villanova will ddumpster this KU team by 50
ESPN2 appears to be several minutes behind CBSSports.com
Probably should be prepared for a first round loss this year.
JK
@KirkIsMyHinrich yep
@Gorilla72 let us know who wins!
Figured the first 4 would be a nice bill self time out get his red face on
DanR said:
Probably should be prepared for a first round loss this year.
JK
Hmm, I could see it actually. This team does not guard the 3 pt line.
Good to get punched in the mouth
Did Dotson hit the ground before throwing it there? Didnt look like it
Crimsonorblue22 said:
@KirkIsMyHinrich yep
Maybe we should start a fundraiser to send you to all of the tournament games.
Dole should not be option 1
Old self is back
Nice pass, Q
Why would you watch a game if the team is lazy and bad?
uncovered air ball, whew
Self is to blame here too. POOR coaching.
BShark said:
Self is to blame here too. POOR coaching.
lol chill
Yeah seems spacing on perimeter not good. We should be working for open 3s
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
BShark said:
Self is to blame here too. POOR coaching.
lol chill
Coaching is bad tonight. Too much forcing the ball inside.
I knew heād say something about isu
That first screen on each possession is a useless waste of 3 seconds.
18-4 since Vick's start.
Fouled twice but called for traveling okay.
Self needs to relax with forcing it too much to Doke. There is no rythym on offense.
Nice take, Garrett.
this game won't be in the 60s
@KirkIsMyHinrich true. He made that screen not useless. Nobody else even pretended to use the screen.
Good defense, Vick.
DanR said:
this game won't be in the 60s
Vermont will have 60 at the half.
Woodrow said:
Self needs to relax with forcing it too much to Doke. There is no rythym on offense.
Strongly agree!
approxinfinity said:
@KirkIsMyHinrich true. He made that screen not useless. Nobody else even pretended to use the screen.
True. We could use that Frank Mason guy tonight.
This might be one of those games Vick wins for us!
I could get used to this Vick though.
I wonder if Self had some motivational words for Vick after the Michigan St. game.
Glad Vick came back.
I'm trying not to complain, but Doke is getting fouled.
Doke got fouled and it's not even the last 5 minutes of the game, but they didn't call it.
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
I'm trying not to complain, but Doke is getting fouled.
He is getting HAMMERED and just zero calls. Bullshit.
Mo announcer is getting on my nerves
Complete junk
wissox said:
Glad Vick came back.
Only reason we are in the game
At least we know what we'll get from Q from game to game.
If we play Duke he'll probably go for 50.
Man, forcing the post in 2018 is awful.
Good thing Vick is on tonight or it would be ugly. Dedric has to start dunking bunnies, Doke needs to settle in along with the freshmen guards.
If we make layups, dont travel and just stay in front I'm betting we'd be up. But since we can't do any of that we trail. Good learning curve for this bunch
Honestly I think the offense is getting good looks right now, just not making them. And on the other end Vermont is making 3's.
It could be worst, to be honest. they missed at least 5 wide open shots
BeddieKU23 said:
If we make layups, dont travel and just stay in front I'm betting we'd be up. But since we can't do any of that we trail. Good learning curve for this bunch
Shouldn't be hard to D up Vermont but here we are...
BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
If we make layups, dont travel and just stay in front I'm betting we'd be up. But since we can't do any of that we trail. Good learning curve for this bunch
Shouldn't be hard to D up Vermont but here we are...
Becker is a very good x and o guy. But Duncan and smith are shooting nba jams right now
DanR said:
It could be worst, to be honest. they missed at least 5 wide open shots
Yeah, Vermont is cold right now. Starting 4-5 from three now 5-10.
And they are open
Mitch make one jeez
Meetch!
Nice move by Lamb.
Stop talking about Niang, Franny
Fran
I never want mitch shooting
Or playing defense
Feeding the post to Mitch then a mitch 3 miss lmao
Holy shit!
Dang
HOLY VICK
Lolol
BeddieKU23 said:
Or playing defense
Mitch is bad, but it's on Self for putting him in there imo.
Mitch is such a liability, great kid tho
Oh Vick!
That needs to be points.
Lol
BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Or playing defense
Mitch is bad, but it's on Self for putting him in there imo.
Also on ku for not having Silvio
Announcer dude, we will score more than 60.
kjayhawks said:
Mitch is such a liability, great kid tho
Exactly
Dedric needs to assert himself
Not worried about us scoring 60 or even 70. We are heating up.
Refs don't like the old man game
What was that call on Dedric? yikes
Refs suck
This team is playing like mule muffins.
Thank you for not dribbling, Doke.
And one! Another uncalled foul against Doke
@Crimsonorblue22 Quoting Colonel Potter! His term to get past the censors!
Unconscious!
These refs are foul blind on one end
We've sped them up on the last 6 or 7 possessions.
Glad Vick is there
Thank the Lord for Vick tonight.
Sooo the offense is more interesting when it is drive oriented instead of ramming it into the post. :thinking:
Well no one can say we get all the calls my god this has to stop
Is Vermont so good inside that we have to double down there?
Loving vicks on game. He had a lot of those early last yr
Glad Vick came back, everyone got him after MSU but he didn't need to take shots. Grimes and Dotson were hot. Gonna be lumps guys, these guys have to learn to play together.
Only 3 Catamounts are scoring, E Duncan, Smith and Lamb. Seems like we could at least try to defend those three
Bwag said:
Is Vermont so good inside that we have to double down there?
LOL
Bwag said:
Is Vermont so good inside that we have to double down there?
Nope. Just bad scheme
stoptheflop said:
Only 3 Catamounts are scoring, E Duncan, Smith and Lamb. Seems like we could at least try to defend those three
Should probably guard those guys tbh
Only players with KU experience prior to this season have scored tonight. Coaching strategy or just a bad half for the newbies?
Fran AGAIN with the iowa state stuff. WTF?
travel, not a foul
I'm thinking Fran has a Niang poster in his bedroom.
Dotson just ruined my theory
Uh-oh, Vick with 2 fouls.
@KirkIsMyHinrich farrah faucet pose
Iād leave Vick in
DanR said:
travel, not a foul
Ball don't lie
Woodrow said:
Iād leave Vick in
Agree
Good pass, though, Charlie.
freshmen are freaking out
Fran go back to isu
@KirkIsMyHinrich the Niang poster is lifesized... And covers Frans bedroom wall and half the ceiling.
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Good pass, though, Charlie.
That shot from Dotson, woof.
Doke got a foul!
Free throw defense!
@approxinfinity Niang life size is 6' 5" but with shoes he's 6-9
KU 2 point shots 18 UVM 2 point shots 8 KU FTs 2 UVM FTs 7
To bad Fran
Wow, christmas just came early on that call.
wissox said:
Wow, christmas just came early on that call.
I mean, if karma exists we should probably get a few more of those this game.
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
wissox said:
Wow, christmas just came early on that call.
I mean, if karma exists we should probably get a few more of those this game.
Home cookin
Azebuke needs to watch pushing off.
Bwag said:
Azebuke needs to watch pushing off.
He loves that chicken wing
Not thrilled with any of these lineups
Boy, where's Dedric tonight?
KJ is junk
CHUCK MOORE!
BigBad said:
Not thrilled with any of these lineups
Amen brother
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Boy, where's Dedric tonight?
Bench, fouls
Really wish we had SDS
BShark said:
Bwag said:
Azebuke needs to watch pushing off.
He loves that chicken wing
I've noticed it several times. Afraid they'll start calling it.
@kjayhawks me too. Most athletic, and most capable perimeter defender of our bigs.
Bwag said:
BShark said:
Bwag said:
Azebuke needs to watch pushing off.
He loves that chicken wing
I've noticed it several times. Afraid they'll start calling it.
Dont tell the refs, they gave us an offensive foul on nothing
Dedric has 0 pts. on 2 shots. ?
Where's big Dave MCD been?
We have not ran 10% of the offense we executed in the Michigan st game
DanR said:
Where's big Dave MCD been?
Self prolly thinks he will not defend their smalls well
Maybe we looked past this team and came with a half baked feed Doke gameplan
BeddieKU23 said:
DanR said:
Where's big Dave MCD been?
Self prolly thinks he will not defend their smalls well
Well, Doke can't either tbh
Not a fan of Self gluing Vick and Dedric to the bench because they have 2 fouls.
This is our protest against dropping to #2 in the rankings.
That's some shit D
Welcome to the party, Grimes!
About time
GUYS. MODERN BASKETBALLLLLL
Grimes has what 4, 5 assists
wissox said:
This is our protest against dropping to #2 in the rankings.
Actually, I felt most of the fanbase was pretty okay with it. I know I was.
Comparing Doke with Wilt? Puh-leeze...
BeddieKU23 said:
Grimes has what 4, 5 assists
5 and 0 turnovers
Hello Q
We look good when all five guys are playing
GRIMES SWITCH: FLIPPED TO ON
Why is Silo Tech playing the Nuggets?
Lack of execution in that half. At least they have seen what bad looks like
I think we come out 2nd half about 10 minutes in will start pushing to that spread
By the way Joel has 32 and 16 through 3 quarters.
On a positive note, we have some scoring options
BeddieKU23 said:
Lack of execution in that half. At least they have seen what bad looks like
Coaching material
wissox said:
By the way Joel has 32 and 16 through 3 quarters.
Stop it hes terrible. Complete baller I mean
Hopefully Dedric can stay on the floor in the 2nd half.
BShark said:
Hopefully Dedric can stay on the floor in the 2nd half.
Not if the old man has his way. Dedric stole his bubble gum
Doke was 6-10 in the first half. 2 turnovers. Entirely too many possessions where he was force fed the ball. Seemed like Self got away from it late, but man, old habits die hard.
Amazing how the dean dome looks half empty on opening night against a power 5 team. No wonder Roy talks about how better AFH is.
Vermont actually calmed down from three. 6-15 at the half. Actually 7-11 from 2...
Only 5 fouls on Vermont. 3 fta for KU. Seems low with what I saw out there. Refs swallowing the whistle.
Halftime: K-State 31, Denver 28.
Just so we all can laugh, k st only up 3 at half on denver
BeddieKU23 said:
Just so we all can laugh, k st only up 3 at half on denver
ISU beat an awful team by 12. Texas beat a mid major by 10. This league ain't it. ISU has the excuse of being w/o two of their better players.
What conference are the refs from? They are missing a lot of calls both ways.
@kjayhawks saw that
Jeez, I think I was at that season-opening loss to Vandy in '73. Didn't think much about it at the time.
We ended up making the Final Four anyway.
Doke is a quitter
Lane violation when Doke finally makes one? This is like a sitcom
Sloppy start here to the second half
Yep, it's Hack-a-Doke time.
Dedric looks bad tonight
Fran go away
Fran, suck it
Sorry
Dotson, stud
My son just sent me a text about my boy Fran
Frans already in good form. Bad for our health
I may actually be more athletic than dedric.
I'm just constantly shocked at how bad a rebounder Doke is. That's the last negative thing I'll say about him tonight, since he's about to bust loose.
He has a thing about our pt guards!
kjayhawks said:
I may actually be more athletic than dedric.
I won't rule this out.
Embiid had 35 points, 18 rebounds, and 3 assists tonight.
DanR said:
I'm just constantly shocked at how bad a rebounder Doke is. That's the last negative thing I'll say about him tonight, since he's about to bust loose.
He doesn't high point the ball. What you think?
I think crimsonorblue has a crush on Fran :)
anybody have a Ice pick I can borrow? I need to stab my ear drums out. Is this Espn or some sports station in Vermont?
Silvio, we hardly knew ye...
We need him fran
@kjayhawks Oh, you're WAY more athletic than dedric
wissox said:
I think crimsonorblue has a crush on Fran :)
Crimsonorblue has a crush on Fran. Fran has a crush on Niang. And Niang has a crush on Crimsonorblue.
There's the annual KU player being held out shot. We'll hear it about 20 more games this year i'm afraid.
Fran, you dont know crap. Silvio is one of the 5 most talented bigs in the league. Definite need for a talent like that
They are calling the hacks on Doke now. Same shit was going on first half.
Maybe coach had a talk with the zebras. We're getting some whistles.
Good pass Q
Grimes with the good feed. Liking that!
Dedric's finishing is crap again.
I know the nba draft is all about potential now but man I wouldnāt draft anyone on our squad
And on his arm
Vick why.
I mean... good shot
I figured if I shamed Doke enough he'd come around
Vick has the fire tonight.
Imagine if Doke and Vick made it to the NBA....
(after last season)
BigBad said:
I know the nba draft is all about potential now but man I wouldnāt draft anyone on our squad
Grimes will be drafted. After that...honestly...I don't see it either. Maybe Silvio on potential. No way Doke or Dedric are draftable.
Q has to learn there. Killed that quick run
I love watching this version of Vick. Making shots, free flowing, and all with that big smile on his face.
Just looking at the box. We are so pumped about a deep KU squad for a change, and I don't see any bench players that have proven anything so far. They've contributed 5 points collectively tonight. That's not what we wanted from them. So yes Fran, Silvio would help a lot as others have pointed out. I trust in Garrett and Lightfoot somewhat, but more as minor role players. These boys have got to step up!
We've got these pesky little cats where we want them... now finish them off!
Dotson is going to be a great one by the time it's all said and done. He just has "looks like a FR" spurts atm.
SDS is better than any big not named Doke from what I've seen so far this season.
Vick looks like he's played in a home game before!
wissox said:
Just looking at the box. We are so pumped about a deep KU squad for a change, and I don't see any bench players that have proven anything so far. They've contributed 5 points collectively tonight. That's not what we wanted from them. So yes Fran, Silvio would help a lot as others have pointed out. I trust in Garrett and Lightfoot somewhat, but more as minor role players. These boys have got to step up!
Billy Self plays ride or die guys only in tight games.
You don't really know Fran
Vick looks like a senior.
Crimsonorblue22 said:
You don't really know Fran
No, Fran is right about this. Trust me.
We 'd be losing by 30 tonight if Vick had gone on to play in Zanzibar or whereever.
Who called Vick for 21 and D.Lawson for 0 at about 13 min left?
Beautiful passing.
Vick came back because he wanted his degree right?
EN FUEGO !!!!!!!!
Not Garrets best drive
feed the beast. Lordy, the basket is an ocean for Vick.
I mean this is nuts
Love seeing Vick make those. Big for confidence
Was that a "surely there was a foul there" foul?
wissox starts googling record for most 3's in a game without a miss.
Lagerald Vick bombing away. Flames shooting off his hands right now.
wissox said:
wissox starts googling record for most 3's in a game without a miss.
Tell us what it is?
If anyone has got the short end of the stick with the whistle tonight it's Doke. Gets pushed almost every possession.
Doke is tough to officiate at the college level. Referees aren't sure what's contact and what's a push.
@KirkIsMyHinrich Coaches have figured out refs won't call it, so that's the plan from the start. Foul and hack him until he gets frustrated
7 for 7 wow not sure I've seen that before. Remember JR going 6 for 6 in a half then 0 for 7 in the 2nd. Closet maybe DG hitting 5 in row vs WV but was 0-4 before hand.
Vick had a couple twos that were barely inside the line too.
So Dedric needs to let things come naturally. He is forcing things and it isn't paying off. Lamb is killing him on both ends.
@BeddieKU23 Can't find it yet. Keeping on looking.
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
If anyone has got the short end of the stick with the whistle tonight it's Doke. Gets pushed almost every possession.
Penalized for being too big and strong.
That was a pretty shot, Charlie!
DanR said:
@KirkIsMyHinrich Coaches have figured out refs won't call it, so that's the plan from the start. Foul and hack him until he gets frustrated
Could be an issue all year.
WOW CHUCK
We cleared 60, so we win, eh, Fran?
Nice floater by Moore
Sooo just gonna let Vermont take open looks okay
Anthony Lamb will take you to the torture chamber w/o remorse.
No more Garrett threes please.
Looked like a pass from Garrett, that three
If that sequence happened in the Michigan St. game there would have been about 5 fouls.
Moore missed the feed to Doke there
Those are called bricks, fran, those VT misses
BShark is Jim Lahey from Trailer Park Boys...
@BeddieKU23 I gave up! Ben Gordon made 8 of 8 which was an NBA record back in 2014. That's the best I can do!
@Bwag @KirkIsMyHinrich Not drinking tonight actually.
Who is next KU Player to break into double digit scoring?
Grimes and Moore each at 7.
Garret and Dotson at 4
Devonte Graham
āVerified account @Devonte4Graham
My boy LV is unconscious š„š„š„ @Vicklovekicks!!!!!
Sweet
Vick cleared for takeoff.
That mojo changed in a hurry
Defense needs to get a lot better.
Maybe don't leave their best player wide open.
Oh crap fran!
Also, Dedric made a play within the offense. More of that please!
Wow, I guess I don't pay attention to hockey much. Never heard of that Hall of Famer.
Lawson is so overhyped
Bill's got this:
Boys, where was the defense on that last shot?
Sprinkle in your favorite expletive.
Lamb. Torture chamber.
Foul!
Jeez
Went from what should have been a 20 point lead to 10. Come on, guys. Focus
Dedric is a mess on both ends tonight
DanR said:
Went from what should have been a 20 point lead to 10. Come on, guys. Focus
Should have put the game away.
Kubie said:
Dedric is a mess on both ends tonight
Yep. Terrible it has to be said.
Kubie said:
Dedric is a mess on both ends tonight
Worried about him in more athletic big 12
Piss off Fran.
Didn't Lawson have an 0-fer in our last exhibition?
We can play without Marcus. Man
Doke fouled again.
total BS those hacks not getting called
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Doke fouled again.
ABSURD no call.
I'm not going to complain. I'm not going to complain.
Doke
Q!
The way he shoots FT's I'd rather they didn't call fouls committed against him.
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Good board, Doke
Grimes: Closer
wissox said:
The way he shoots FT's I'd rather they didn't call fouls committed against him.
I would, seeing as that would have been an And 1.
Pure
I think Grimes needs one more assist for a double double.
Doke Nash
Dokeāļø
Now just put it away men!
HALLELUJAH !
If Doke made 25 out the 50 freethrows a game he deserved, I'd be OK with it
Bwag said:
Who is next KU Player to break into double digit scoring?
Grimes and Moore each at 7.
Garret and Dotson at 4
Answer: Grimes
8-8 zomg
We barely broke 60 tonight.
We have almost 80 and dedric hasn't scored
GRIMES IS A POINT FRIGGIN GUARD
Still has the record
Have a night LeGerald. Have a night!
I watched Doke practice fts and he hit a bunch in a row. I think it is in game confidence now he needs
Answer :Grimes
Grimes has the dub dub now.
Vick
Marquette fans: bIlL sElF wOn'T lEt Q pLaY pOiNt GuArD
Bad call
Grimes now with 10 assists
Dedric just needs to shot fake and live at the line.
kjayhawks said:
Dedric just needs to shot fake and live at the line.
Yes.
kjayhawks said:
Dedric just needs to shot fake and live at the line.
Yes. So much this. He just seemed out of sorts to start the game. Didnāt have a lot of energy and looked lethargic to me.
Grimes. 10 Assists with 10 points.
Anyone else hate how Coach Ks head has been on the screen the whole game with espn plus advertisements.
Fran! Shut up, you don't like us, we know!
D. LAWSON'S throw away game
Dotson, great hustle
Treys are contagious.
Vick woke up feeling Dangerous !
Great game for Vick. The good news is the Yacht Club is closed and the place that opened after the Yacht Club is also closed, so there will be no arguing with any cray-cray ex girlfriends there tonight for Vick and hopefully no kicked cars etc.
ESPN leaves KU games as fast as possible.
We beat the Peskies...
That Vermont team looks like an NCAA, obviously they blew it last season but that's a tough out for anyone in March.
Katie Lou Samuelson, Connecticut women's basketball team, shot 10-of-10 from three-point range against South Florida in 2017. Supposedly the most makes without a miss in the history of the sport. A couple of NBA players have gone 9-9. I canāt find any NCAA menās players who have more than Vick.
Only took 19 threes tonight.
Doke 10-17
Dedric 0-6
Garrett 1-6 0-1
2pt% only 47
@tundrahok Didn't the announcer say BMac made 8 of 8 once?
wissox said:
@tundrahok Didn't the announcer say BMac made 8 of 8 once?
BMac had a 6-6 game against ISU. That was his best w/o a miss.
Interesting that David didn't get in with how ineffective everyone but doke was. We may see more of a four guard line up than expected. The ball just moves so much better with 4 guards and if Vick, Grimes and Dotson came keep the defense honest by hitting 3s, we may need it to win games.
8-8 is a KU record for sure it may well be a ncaa record as well canāt find anything better so far
KSU 10-23 from the line a big reason why it isn't a double digit win.
KSU wins 64-56, finishes 12-27 from the stripe. I think this KSU team will struggle to adjust to being the hunted rather than the hunter.
kjayhawks said:
Interesting that David didn't get in with how ineffective everyone but doke was. We may see more of a four guard line up than expected. The ball just moves so much better with 4 guards and if Vick, Grimes and Dotson came keep the defense honest by hitting 3s, we may need it to win games.
I made a thread for this.
Kubie said:
8-8 is a KU record for sure it may well be a ncaa record as well canāt find anything better so far
10 for 10 is the NCAA record for both men and women, unless someone broke it since this article.
@tundrahok Just saw your post. The article I posted a couple mins ago says a G Mason player went 10 for 10 in 2008.
Somebody said dg had 7-7 last year?
Crimsonorblue22 said:
Somebody said dg had 7-7 last year?
Not true. I checked for you. Had a 7 make game on 13 attempts.
What a great edit from Bryce Wood. Helps when the artist for SI is a KU grad.
@tundrahok It was actually surprising how hard it is to find this record. Prob in NCAA record book but I deleted that pdf file when I ran too low on memory and needed to load something in a hurry.
Benton Smith
ā @BentonASmith
5m5 minutes ago
Self: Dedric had "rough" night. #kubball
Thought Garrett and Moore were good off the bench.
That's uh, interesting Bill.
As I rewatch the game, Fran made so many dumb comments. For instance, after a Doke dunk, it was āThatās what happens when you donāt double him!ā. Doke had 2 men hanging on him and a third running right at him.
āUse every TV timeout to stay close.ā
Just awful.... š¤Æ