Hey so I wanted to start a thread 100% dedicated to any new information on recruiting I've been scouring the internet and it looks like Les Miles is close to flipping jayden Russell. So if you are in any of the paid sites online and have any info drop it here
Jayden isn’t committed anywhere right now so he wouldn’t be a flip, but it does sound like he is close to committing to KU.
What if I told you he was a silent commit.
The Miles affect should really be felt in the 2020 class. He's getting such a late start in 2019, particularly with lots of guys already signed during the national signing day in November. I think he can salvage this class, but its the 2020 class where he can make his mark and potentially turn KU around.
He should at least see if Daniel Jackson would be interested in coming to Lawrence and should try and keep Turner Corcoran in town, but he should have an all out effort to get Ky Thomas (Jackson is probably heading to Notre Dame, and Corcoran is rumored to be heading to Ohio State - Thomas is not currently linked to anywhere). That's a kid he cannot lose in 2020. He won't be the star of the class, but if Miles can't get local kids like that to come to KU, it's hard to see how he can get enough out of state talent to come to build the program.
just read that the # 6 Inside Linebacker in the Nation is going to visit KU. - - -his name is Dante Starks -it was in the VIP so couldn't read entire article but did se this - -maybe we got a chance? ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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The next couple days are going to be fun, guys
FarmerJayhawk said:
The next couple days are going to be fun, guys
Commit train about to start chuggin.
I think at least 3 pop this week. Maybe more if you include PWO’s.
Mason Fairchild just committed. KS kid.
It will be interesting to see how his early signing period goes for us, I’ll remind everyone that this is the early period so if we only sign 3 or 4 guys, there is no reason to panic. Gosh when is the last time we were all talking about KU football in December in excitement. I’m still ticked about Pooka and I think it will hurt badly but he doesn’t need to be here if he is guilty of the charges.
@stoptheflop he was committed to North Dakota St. he’s a big kid 6’5. Not sure if he will project to a TE or possibly DE.
Woodrow said:
@stoptheflop he was committed to North Dakota St. he’s a big kid 6’5. Not sure if he will project to a TE or possibly DE.
South Dakota
Jayden Russell to KU.
@kjayhawks real talk man
@FarmerJayhawk I can't remember how long it has been since I've been this stoked about our KU football. - True not a single down has been played YET but oh the possibilities of a much more competitive program returning back is something nice to think about
I guess Dineen & Garber sit together last night - -and have been twitting about package deal - - - I'm hearing now that our chances for Legendre has went from NO CHANCE -to as good as chance as anyone. - -heard too that since Les has taken over that over 100 kids have Contacted Les with other D-1 offers
Every thing I'm hearing that we are right there with this 4 * line backer , sitting pretty good with the 3 * receiver -should be interesting in this next week - - - I truly think we are going to land multiple recruits for the early signing
Wouldn't it be great to have our regular kick ass band have a very solid - -competitive Football team at the same time? -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
BShark said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
The next couple days are going to be fun, guys
Commit train about to start chuggin.
I HAVE TO SAY - - - -ME LIKE LOL - - -ME LIKE ALOT
I would bet on Valerian Agbaw JR committing to KU as well. He visits on the 14th. Chevis Jackson was all over him when Jackson was at Ball State.
BShark said:
Jayden Russell to KU.
HELL to the Crimson & Blue - -rootie toot - -been waiting for this - -now if we could land Dineen & Garber - -would be sweet. - - ROCK CHALK AL DAY LONG BABY
@jayballer73 Russell + Agbaw is the start of a toughhhhh secondary.
KU is going hard to flip Garber too.
BShark said:
I would bet on Valerian Agbaw JR committing to KU as well. He visits on the 14th. Chevis Jackson was all over him when Jackson was at Ball State.
From what I've seen and been reading - -sounds pretty stoked on KU
BShark said:
@jayballer73 Russell + Agbaw is the start of a toughhhhh secondary.
KU is going hard to flip Garber too.
I think we flip Garber - - would be sweet -really want DAX too though
Agbaw will announce January 9th. He just posted this on his twitter account.
Pretty sure Garber and Jax are going to be Jayhawks. The KSU situation is not great right now.
I LOVE JAYDEN ALREADY. GAHHHHHTTTTT DAMMMMMMMMN.
"I want to change the culture," Russell said, asked what he'd like KU fans to know about him. "As a person, I want them to know that as soon as I come here, we’re going to change the culture and we’re going to change everything. We’re going to start winning games and we’re going to run Kansas."
He continued.
"Like, K-State’s not even going to be in the question anymore." Russell said. "So I just hope people know that.”
BShark said:
@jayballer73 Russell + Agbaw is the start of a toughhhhh secondary.
KU is going hard to flip Garber too.
That's not the start of one, that's the continuation of one. Co Harris was the start.
@Texas-Hawk-10 No :airplane: zone.
You would think we have a fair shot at flipping Garber with KSU not announcing a hire to this point. Also we should should try and flip Javier Derritt a 2 star DT that was teammates with Russel and currently is committed to NDSU. I’d to get a couple of 4 star guys but we must sign 15 players at this point, the best of which we can get.
Probably going to land Thomas MacVittle, a JuCo QB. #1 pro style JuCo QB per 247. I consider him more of a dual threat guy. VERY athletic for his size (6'5 230) and has been consistently clocked under 4.6.
FarmerJayhawk said:
Probably going to land Thomas MacVittle, a JuCo QB. #1 pro style JuCo QB per 247. I consider him more of a dual threat guy. VERY athletic for his size (6'5 230) and has been consistently clocked under 4.6.
I was hoping KU could get back in with Legendre but I would bet this JUCO kid is better than anybody KU has on the roster at QB.
BShark said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
Probably going to land Thomas MacVittle, a JuCo QB. #1 pro style JuCo QB per 247. I consider him more of a dual threat guy. VERY athletic for his size (6'5 230) and has been consistently clocked under 4.6.
I was hoping KU could get back in with Legendre but I would bet this JUCO kid is better than anybody KU has on the roster at QB.
They're in it with LeGendre. I don't think he'd be ready to go as a true freshman. Would be a stopgap kind of thing while we figure out of LeGendre can develop QB skills.
@FarmerJayhawk Getting both would be amazing.
BShark said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
Probably going to land Thomas MacVittle, a JuCo QB. #1 pro style JuCo QB per 247. I consider him more of a dual threat guy. VERY athletic for his size (6'5 230) and has been consistently clocked under 4.6.
I was hoping KU could get back in with Legendre but I would bet this JUCO kid is better than anybody KU has on the roster at QB.
Was reading off the phog . and was thinking this before I saw a couple of responses from it. - -Some people were saying we land MacVittle , has 4.5 speed running the 440 - and we could redshirt Legendre.
I was thinking and then seen multiple responses stating the same and that is - - There is no way Legendre commits to a school and red shirts , to good for that to happen. so the best case scenario to come from this would be to land one or the other. - -Don't believe we could have a chance to land both.
We might not get numbers in 2019. But we might still end up with more quality talent in a single class than we maybe have ever seen.
Miles looks like he will be able to flip some kids.
Ideally, this means we have some backups and foundational guys in this class, with the stars and starters on the next bowl team predominantly coming in next year when Miles has a full year to recruit.
The current KSU situation helps as well, because all of the cracks that KSU has been papering over for years with Snyder are about to come out for the whole world to see. KSU could be heading for some really rough years on the gridiron.
@jayballer73 we aint gonna land both
fsu had an update about Legendre. KU, Tennessee & FSU the main 3 for him. He won't sign until the late period.
Saw some film on MacVittle - --I think I like - - I think I like a lot. - - nice touch , throws a nice intermediate ball - -can drop it in - -surprising faster then I thought - - nice wheels - -just looks really solid. - -Very nice size - no worries about having to try and throw over DL - -6'5 and 225 lbs - - runs a 4.5 pretty decent speed - -wouldn't hurt my feelings at all. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Les needs to give Bubba Starling a call. See if he's ready to end his baseball career yet.
I'm just gonna be honest Jucos scare me a bit I think 2 or 3 is okay but if we get crazy with them as did Weis and Beaty even at times it will hurt scholarship numbers.
kjayhawks said:
I'm just gonna be honest Jucos scare me a bit I think 2 or 3 is okay but if we get crazy with them as did Weis and Beaty even at times it will hurt scholarship numbers.
We're in a bit of a bind for next year anyway, though. We don't have very many commits (still less than 5). We need to sign at least 16 or 17 guys total. We can't afford to sign only 8 or 9 guys just to stick with HS players. If we have to take 7 or 8 juco guys to fill out this year's roster, so be it.
I do agree that long term, we have to look at HS players, but for this upcoming season, we have to get numbers on campus.
MacVittie looks like a stud on film. Of course everyone does on their highlights. But he looks big and athletic. Would be happy landing him.
https://twitter.com/soni_fonua ↗
This guy got an offer as well.
I hope they go after Cooper Beebe with Snyder out now. Kid has the genes.
A couple of WRs visiting in the next week. I'd expect us to land one of them. One a HS kid one a juco kid.
Kcmatt7 said:
MacVittie looks like a stud on film. Of course everyone does on their highlights. But he looks big and athletic. Would be happy landing him.
Ya I'm pretty impressed with his tape - -nice touch - -got good wheels I would be happy with either one -- Legendre OR MacVittie - If MacVittie commits early great - - Legendre is committing till Feb- - hope we get one or the other. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DaY LONG BABY
Going to be a fight between KU and KSU for this guy potentially.
Louisiana Kid that'd be nice to land
Unless we keep Coach Cash, I think we may lose out on this guy.
Definitely a shot at this kid.
https://247sports.com/player/cameron-burt-46056131/ ↗
His QB was Graham Mertz, but you can't say he doesn't deserve a chance. Has the size, and made HS kids look slow so I assume he has the speed. Give him a chance Les!
Kcmatt7 said:
MacVittie looks like a stud on film. Of course everyone does on their highlights. But he looks big and athletic. Would be happy landing him.
Be happy! He's ours.
FarmerJayhawk said:
Kcmatt7 said:
MacVittie looks like a stud on film. Of course everyone does on their highlights. But he looks big and athletic. Would be happy landing him.
Be happy! He's ours.
Hell ya we got this kid - -we got us a QB - -don't get me wrong - yes I've like Carter - -BUT this kid is a whole new level - -I think I just we myself lol
No matter how you slice it miles has been like a defibrillator shocking our lifeless recruiting body back to life
@ReggieKansas Which one?
I just have to think we this group of Coach's Les has assembled - Pooka just has to stay - -what a group. - -you add Tony - -noting official but I'm just sure he is retained - -ad him to this group - and it's becoming a monster staff. - -Les must carry some really heavy respect through Coaching for sure. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
They are going nuts In Louisiana - -one of the posts stated:
From a poster from Gettem Tiger : -- he stated at 3:30 this afternoon , - He says long time lurker and joined to post this. My Cousins sister that is on the football staff ( AD ) I'm assuming works in the AD office said that things aren't looking good after Starks took his visit to Kansas.
Evidently Starks has informed the staff that while he is verbally committed to LSU , he is still keeping his options open until signing day.
The thoughts from within are that he is going to flip to Kansas due to the atmosphere in Lawrence and his connections with the other Louisiana Animals . - - Guy's we really got an issue with the repertoire the Miles has down here along with the Tony Hull connections.
Got to love this , whether it turns out correct or not. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Even if we don't flip Starks specifically, we can compete in recruiting down there, now even more than before. That can make a huge difference in terms of talent coming into the program.
Kcmatt7 said:
https://247sports.com/player/cameron-burt-46056131/ ↗
His QB was Graham Mertz, but you can't say he doesn't deserve a chance. Has the size, and made HS kids look slow so I assume he has the speed. Give him a chance Les!
How did he do against Aquinas and Miege? Those are the two programs that have D1 level DBs on their rosters.
That's one of the tough things about evaluating Kansas kids. You can look good, but might not be doing that against D1 or P5 level competition. And since most Kansas teams don't face teams from out of state, you may only have a couple of games to really evaluate on.
@justanotherfan Good grief, a few of the better local teams occasionally play Stratford, Texas. They get destroyed.
My best friend growing up moved there, his kids got involved in football and he claims the amount of practice time is incredible. It’s pretty much year round.
@justanotherfan In every game they lost this season, he had over 100 yards receiving and a TD. The kid absolutely dominated all season long.
DAM - -we picked up 4 CB's for Parker last night - -landscape is changing. - -I think we have a really good shot for starks also
Sur is nice to see starting to turn - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@jayballer73 parker who
There is going to be some serious offensive talent coming in at the WR position.
Jones was obviously the lead recruiter for Parker while he was committed to Tech. But KU was involved with the old regime so this is sort of the best of both worlds. Don't be surprised if TCU gets in the mix though.
Starks did just start following Jax Dineen and a couple of KU players. That Louisiana connection is amazing.
https://247sports.com/player/valerian-agbaw-46055314/ ↗ This one is done. Just won't be announced until his Birthday in January. Hoping they make him a CB.
@justanotherfan Besides him playing well consistently against all opponents, he is 100% worth the risk unless you think you are going to fill this entire first class.
ReggieKansas said:
@jayballer73 parker who
4 star WDE 6'4 220 lbs from Dallas we lead for him at 75%
@ReggieKansas Also another player we are in on - - La'Vontae Shenault - - -a high 3 player off rivals -a 4 off rivals a de-commit from Texas Tech that Jones was the lead recruiter on - -picked up a CB on him also late last night
From Jayhawk slant: - -Phone was ringing all day from area high school Coach's - - -Dirk Wedd was spotted in several local High Schools representing the Jayhawks - - Stops in Blue valley - - Bishop Meige - -Shawnee Mission north - - -Shawnee Mission East - - sound pretty sweet. - -Yet my question is - - Who is Dirk Wedd? - -Anybody help me? - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@jayballer73 Google search says defensive analyst for KU.
@mayjay - -found out this is not sit in stone yet - -was just reading that we are down to 2 people for this position -- -Jimmy Brumbaugh - -& then just heard about this other one - - Frank Okan pretty good back ground on him:
1st Jimmy Brumbaugh: - -Has been a DL Coach for Kentucky & Maryland and was also Asst for Strength and Cond Coach for LSU. -12 yrs as DL Coaching experience
2nd Frank Okan : Yes only 3 yrs as DL Coach - -However some pretty good qualification - - He just completed his 1st year as DL line at Baylor - -then 2 at Rice - -yet however he has tons of ties with Texas( can never get enough connections in Texas ) - -plus he is from Arkansas - - -he attended High School in Dallas - -he won a National Championship @ Texas Really nice run in the NFL.
Just for me personally - -I think I would rather take Okan - - just personal preference - -don't think we could go wrong either way. - -love the group Les is assembling . - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@jayballer73 yeah now we need to start lockin up some coaches with florida ties
SMU starting quarterback Ben Hicks, the school's all-time leading passer, has left the program and will be a graduate transfer for 2019. Any chance he ends at KU?
@JayHawkFanToo With already having the JUCO kid committed and limited number of scholarships to hand out this class I highly doubt they take another QB unless its a high level High School kid.
jayballer73 said:
From Jayhawk slant: - -Phone was ringing all day from area high school Coach's - - -Dirk Wedd was spotted in several local High Schools representing the Jayhawks - - Stops in Blue valley - - Bishop Meige - -Shawnee Mission north - - -Shawnee Mission East - - sound pretty sweet. - -Yet my question is - - Who is Dirk Wedd? - -Anybody help me? - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
This is a critical step in rebuilding the program. While some may think I am down on Kansas HS football (I am not), having those local ties is critically important. We need to repair the bridges that were burned in the past, largely by Charlie Weis.
We need to do the same on the Missouri side of the metro area. KU also needs to have a stronger presence in the Wichita area.
Instate talent won't be the base - Kansas simply doesn't produce enough D1 talent year in and year out to do that, even if KU were to land every prospect each year. But it can act as a starting point.
Outrecruiting K-State, Mizzou, Iowa and Nebraska in the KC metro area is the first step. Securing Wichita from the Oklahoma schools is step 2.
@justanotherfan Very true, I think Kansas usually has about 5 or 6 D1 guys in the average class. Most of those guys are at KSU or OU it seems.
justanotherfan said:
jayballer73 said:
From Jayhawk slant: - -Phone was ringing all day from area high school Coach's - - -Dirk Wedd was spotted in several local High Schools representing the Jayhawks - - Stops in Blue valley - - Bishop Meige - -Shawnee Mission north - - -Shawnee Mission East - - sound pretty sweet. - -Yet my question is - - Who is Dirk Wedd? - -Anybody help me? - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
This is a critical step in rebuilding the program. While some may think I am down on Kansas HS football (I am not), having those local ties is critically important. We need to repair the bridges that were burned in the past, largely by Charlie Weis.
We need to do the same on the Missouri side of the metro area. KU also needs to have a stronger presence in the Wichita area.
Instate talent won't be the base - Kansas simply doesn't produce enough D1 talent year in and year out to do that, even if KU were to land every prospect each year. But it can act as a starting point.
Outrecruiting K-State, Mizzou, Iowa and Nebraska in the KC metro area is the first step. Securing Wichita from the Oklahoma schools is step 2.
very true and I think when Les said he was making it a priority to recruit , check out the Kansas kids - -this is a Coach that is actually following through, and repair and reconnect with Kansas high schools - -Kids and Coach's - -Coach's of these kids play an important role in this too.
If you turn a Coach off or ignore possible recruits that he thinks might have a chance - -you snub him - -then it can turn South in a hurry and then the word spreads - -Gonna take a lot to reconnect and then when there are some really sweet kids - -GOOD LUCK.
I Think Les ins in the know enough he knows how it works - -he says it - - he is doing it - -AL READY LOVE THIS GUY
I'd like to see us hit Denver, St. Louis, Memphis, NW Arkansas and Minneapolis hard recruiting. It gets back to Les saying he'll have a radius to build a base from. There definitely won't be enough Kansas/Metro Area kids to build a base from. But building relationships in these other cities could provide us a solid pipeline to tap.
Has anyone heard any news of anyone transferring out of the program? I haven't I am just curious
This kid might be the 1st diamond in the ruff hes only played 1 yr but hes got huge upside http://www.hudl.com/profile/10186445/Dajon-Terry ↗
@dylans It is a great place to steal some kids, because Colorado doesn't dominate the area. Just like Missouri doesn't dominate St. Louis. A major Metro area without much hometown loyalty is the perfect place to build some connections and poach a player or two every season.
Kcmatt7 said:
I'd like to see us hit Denver, St. Louis, Memphis, NW Arkansas and Minneapolis hard recruiting. It gets back to Les saying he'll have a radius to build a base from. There definitely won't be enough Kansas/Metro Area kids to build a base from. But building relationships in these other cities could provide us a solid pipeline to tap.
The Denver metro could yield 1 or 2 a year.
St. Louis will be a competitive spot, but they usually turn out a fair number of D1 recruits, so you might be able to get 1 or 2 a year from there.
Minneapolis/St. Paul doesn't turn out a ton of talent, but again, if you build some good relationships, that's another place to find a little talent.
Memphis is super competitive with the SEC recruiting, but you can do as well there as New Orleans, so that could be a secondary spot.
Houston and Dallas are good targets, because you have to compete there to compete in the Big 12.
All told, if you can get 4-5 in each class from Denver/STL/MPLS area, plus 4-5 more from Memphis/New Orleans/NW Arkansas and 5-6 more from Dallas/Houston, you can get your 3 or 4 Kansas/KC area kids to round out a nice 18 or 19 man class.
Broken down like that, its very doable. But you have to have a pretty wide radius of recruiting to pull that off.
Don't forget Ohio, it is consistently among the top 5 states in producing top HS football prospects.
@Kcmatt7 I see, I was thinking more genetics and aptitude. I spend a little (very little) time there every year and it never inspires thoughts of football for me. I’m usually downtown and it’s all scrawny somewhat rich people looking like they need a meal, though. -I know it’s not all like that- I’ve never looked at it through a football lens. Not doubting there are recruits to be had, just not a place I would have thought to look.
My stereotypes are old fashioned, I guess. Look for a good farm kid with a big frame. He knows how to work and take a beating already, just teach him football (small town in the Midwest pretty much anywhere). So I don’t think of Denver much, even though it’s got well over a million people in the metro area. No reason there shouldn’t be a recruit or two a year for KU, but I’m betting Les spends more efforts recruiting south and east than that far west given his reputation in the geography.
dylans said:
@Kcmatt7 I see, I was thinking more genetics and aptitude. I spend a little (very little) time there every year and it never inspires thoughts of football for me. I’m usually downtown and it’s all scrawny somewhat rich people looking like they need a meal, though. -I know it’s not all like that- I’ve never looked at it through a football lens. Not doubting there are recruits to be had, just not a place I would have thought to look.
My stereotypes are old fashioned, I guess. Look for a good farm kid with a big frame. He knows how to work and take a beating already, just teach him football (small town in the Midwest pretty much anywhere). So I don’t think of Denver much, even though it’s got well over a million people in the metro area. No reason there shouldn’t be a recruit or two a year for KU, but I’m betting Les spends more efforts recruiting south and east than that far west given his reputation in the geography.
You're not wrong lol. I mean they probably only have 8-10 P5 caliber guys a season. But it's something.
justanotherfan said:
Kcmatt7 said:
I'd like to see us hit Denver, St. Louis, Memphis, NW Arkansas and Minneapolis hard recruiting. It gets back to Les saying he'll have a radius to build a base from. There definitely won't be enough Kansas/Metro Area kids to build a base from. But building relationships in these other cities could provide us a solid pipeline to tap.
The Denver metro could yield 1 or 2 a year.
St. Louis will be a competitive spot, but they usually turn out a fair number of D1 recruits, so you might be able to get 1 or 2 a year from there.
Minneapolis/St. Paul doesn't turn out a ton of talent, but again, if you build some good relationships, that's another place to find a little talent.
Memphis is super competitive with the SEC recruiting, but you can do as well there as New Orleans, so that could be a secondary spot.
Houston and Dallas are good targets, because you have to compete there to compete in the Big 12.
All told, if you can get 4-5 in each class from Denver/STL/MPLS area, plus 4-5 more from Memphis/New Orleans/NW Arkansas and 5-6 more from Dallas/Houston, you can get your 3 or 4 Kansas/KC area kids to round out a nice 18 or 19 man class.
Broken down like that, its very doable. But you have to have a pretty wide radius of recruiting to pull that off.
Bingo. EXACTLY my thoughts. A couple here. A couple there. Before you know it you're at 20.
JayHawkFanToo said:
Don't forget Ohio, it is consistently among the top 5 states in producing top HS football prospects.
To me, it isn't that St. Louis or Memphis aren't competitive. They are. But they are competitive in a way that lacks loyalty.
Ohio recruiting is ran by Ohio State first and foremost. Then it has a pretty clear pecking order. Michigan State. Kentucky. Cincinatti. And then throw in Notre Dame and Penn State to pick off a few. Purdue after that. Iowa State makes some noise.
It just seems like a place where it would be hard to find connections. But I suppose landing a player or two from there each year wouldn't be an outrageous thought. There are around 70 kids that would be intriguing.
justanotherfan said:
Broken down like that, its very doable. But you have to have a pretty wide radius of recruiting to pull that off.
It does seem like Les is casting a pretty wide recruiting net based on hires. And like he might be going after the Denver area with the two Colorado hires.
I'll definitely be interested to see who else he ends up picking up on the staff. I think it will be very telling.
I hadn't looked yet, but it definitely looks like Chevis Jackson has Georgia recruiting ties. 7 of the recruits he got to Ball State were from Georgia.
Kcmatt7 said:
I hadn't looked yet, but it definitely looks like Chevis Jackson has Georgia recruiting ties. 7 of the recruits he got to Ball State were from Georgia.
All the assistant hires have been for damn good reason.
BShark said:
Kcmatt7 said:
I hadn't looked yet, but it definitely looks like Chevis Jackson has Georgia recruiting ties. 7 of the recruits he got to Ball State were from Georgia.
All the assistant hires have been for damn good reason.
Yea Les is no dummy.
It also helps that Les has former players he can tap as well as just being Les freaking Miles. An advantage that no other KU coach in history has ever had. Being able to attract this type of coaching talent is a skill that can't be taught.
@Kcmatt7 basically took the words off my keyboard. Without a clear link to Ohio, it will be tough to beat out (in some order) Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan State, Notre Dame, Penn State, Kentucky, Louisville, Pittsburgh, Indiana and Purdue. And that doesn't include Cincinnati, West Virginia and then close to home options like Akron, Bowling Green, Kent State, etc. for the three star that wants to stay in the area. That's a hard hill to climb, and KU does not, at least not yet, have a link to Ohio.
We have a link to Louisiana. Without Hull (and now Miles), we would not be getting these guys from Louisiana. LSU, Alabama, Texas A&M, Auburn, Ole Miss, Mississippi State, Arkansas, etc. would be taking those players.
I'd love for KU to get into Ohio (and Florida, Georgia, California), but we honestly don't have the connections to win a lot of those battles right now. We do have the connections to get guys from the areas mentioned yesterday, and that's how you can rebuild the program. Then you can reach into Ohio.
I'm so happy to see these football boards talking about us recruiting the traditional football hot spots. The past several years we're happy to get a couple of good walk ons and maybe a guy from Hutch Juco or somewhere.
Donte Starks twitter is KU strong atm. Makes me think he is KU bound???
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@nuleafjhawk hey now on hutch juco!
@Crimsonorblue22 Not a slam on them at all !!
https://www.lubbockonline.com/news/20181212/desoto-receiver-breaks-tech-commitment ↗
La'Vontae Shenault 4 star Wide Receiver re-opens recruitment. His lead recruiter at TT was KU's new WR coach Emmett Jones.
Looks like Les has filled 7 of the open coaching positions at this time. I am wondering if he will leave room to retain Hull, and at what capacity. Sounds like he is still working hard for KU. Hope it pays big dividends. Only 3 positions left to fill.
Boy grabbing Starks would be a coup. 5 days.
I heard at coffee this morning that the new Kitty coach would be in Lawrence tomorrow to talk with a couple Free State boys. This info from some kstate fans. Does anyone know who they might be? And is our staff in contact with them also? Sure hope we do not let them come into our home town and steal our kids. Especially if they are D1 worthy. DAMN!!!!
Big Clyde52 said:
I heard at coffee this morning that the new Kitty coach would be in Lawrence tomorrow to talk with a couple Free State boys. This info from some kstate fans. Does anyone know who they might be? And is our staff in contact with them also? Sure hope we do not let them come into our home town and steal our kids. Especially if they are D1 worthy. DAMN!!!!
you can take it to the bank that the two he will be talking to is the one that is already committed to KSU- - what's his name ( Garber or is it Barber & Dineen) -- the talk has been since Synder resigned -that KU was trying to get Barber to flip - -there has been talk of him and Dineen wanting to be a package. - -Man I would think with Jax's brother playing here he would want to come also - -it he comes to KU then the other might come here to with the other free state guys on the roster.
That is the two you can almost bet is the one's he is coming to talk to - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
You know I almost think - -Coach is filling his staff - -wanting to fill his staff and announcing his staff - -THEN he will come out and announce Tony. - -I think Tony already knows that he has been retained - -Coach more then likely already told him - -everything been settled. - -Les just wanting to announce the others first , then let it be known about Tony - - Coach will get the other 9 signed - -I just think Tony is here. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@jayballer73 Have to find a role for him. He's here, just don't know what his title will be. At least that is my best guess.
@jayballer73 Thanks. I do remember them saying the name Keenan Garber. Agree it looks like Dineen would want to follow his brothers.
@jayballer73 I hope you and @kcmatt7 are right. He is still out there recruiting for us, which is great. But he is probably still under contract until Feb. like the other coaches.
Big Clyde52 said:
@jayballer73 Thanks. I do remember them saying the name Keenan Garber. Agree it looks like Dineen would want to follow his brothers.
Not really sure how this is going to turn out , I was thinking we had a good shot with these guys, but again have been reading and AGAIN it's just a he said - - she said like a bunch of ol ladies gossiping but , just read to day that supposedly - - Les didn't want to offer Jax a scholarship but KU wanted him to walk on - - hearing that the Dineen family wasn't reeving that to well. seeing that they had 2 other Dineen's already play for us at KU
I guess the new KSU coach has had an in home visit with Jax and the family -- went pretty well - -and THEY offered a full ride stressing that fullback was a part of their offensive set. - -Then I guess North Dakota or South whichever the hell it was NDS - also had offered a full ride
So with those two schools offering full rides to a walk on that's not good if true - -you combine that with Garber already giving a verbal to KSU -it could turn out that indeed Jax teams up with Keenan as a package and commits to K-state , again just jibber - - jabber like old ladies how solid info is it? - -I dunno. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Well sounds like a pretty sweet opportunity for us on another flip. - - -Keith Miller who had committed to Texas Tech - -just decommitted from Tech.
Of course Jaden Russell out doing his part recruiting for us lol. - -He Tweeted to Miller: ( my boy got that KU offer and realized we are building something special - - - - tweeted to Miller you already one move closer to becoming a Jayhawk not just make the call and the rest is history. - - - Miller responded I hear ya family ) - -so hmmm you never know - -he would re-connect with Jones if he comes here. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
SO just to let all doubters thinking we had no chance - - - Dante Starks will decide between LSU -& KU Monday - -so see indeed WE DO have that shot - - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@jayballer73 my lsu buddy says hes a wrap to lsu hes the one that told me we would get pooka
ReggieKansas said:
@jayballer73 my lsu buddy says hes a wrap to lsu hes the one that told me we would get pooka
well guess we shall see- - he is not very happy with their fanbase at all
Well ya , looks like we might have possibly missed on Dante Starks - -went to the Louisiana Boards and went under their football recruiting - -found the article about commits.
Said in the article Devante on a post/twitter seen where it said Starks was going to sign on National signing day that he changed his mind and on his twitter he stated he was going to be signing @ 8;00 a.m. 12-19 - -at Jalen Ehret High School - -that was tweeted at 11:44 on Dec 14th
Well time to move on - -ew are going to be all right - -thought we had a real shot - -anyways rock chalk all day long baby
Hard to see Agbaw ending up anywhere but KU...
Added Ezra Naylor today. Big bodied JUCO WR. For w/e reason, the staff is going HARD after wrs, they must not like what is on the roster already.
Well have read at least of - Reggie Todd receiving his offer - -a former SEC receiver , - Ray Vchasek was in - -- -Justin Ford has closed his recruiting and announcing then the commit Of Naylor.
So we have went from ONE commit to now FIVE - -and we know there will be more - -just interesting to see who that's gonna be. -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
BShark said:
Added Ezra Naylor today. Big bodied JUCO WR. For w/e reason, the staff is going HARD after wrs, they must not like what is on the roster already.
And it’s a big need. We’re graduating 4 scholarship WR’s and the returnees are less than inspiring.
FarmerJayhawk said:
BShark said:
Added Ezra Naylor today. Big bodied JUCO WR. For w/e reason, the staff is going HARD after wrs, they must not like what is on the roster already.
And it’s a big need. We’re graduating 4 scholarship WR’s and the returnees are less than inspiring.
I think he just instantly in love with the environment - -always a big recruiting for us. - -ya it was basketball - -but it NOW can really help us in football to
I've got a question and it doesn't deal with any one here or AT LEAST I haven't seen anyone here mention of this.
My question is and a lot of others wondering also - -noticing already there are some that is disappointed at our recruits so far - -not liking the caliber of recruits we pulling in. - -My response to a train of thought like that is - - -WTF
Come on know -- let's get real - - -pull your baggie out - -take a good hit - -then step back - - slap your bitch as and get a really good cold hard dose of what people call -- REALITY.
What in the hell are some people thinking? Coach Miles coming in here at this late of stage in recruiting and we have some just insane idiots that just because it's Les Miles he is ONLY going to land 5 * recruits - - -umm HELLO - - - -Houston - - we have a problem - -for these kind of thinking idiots - -get your head - -out that ass and realize , no matter who the hell you are it's gonna take time - -just try and remember how sorry this dam program's shape it's in
So to thoseof you thinking like that -- now Step Back give yourself a good really fricken hard sucker punch to the groin - -and say oh shit guess maybe these others are right. - -He comes in and has to try an assemble a staff - - plus recruit in what like right about 2 months?
I think with the amount of time Les ha had - -assemble staff and then umm let's go back down memory lane shall we? - - GOOD - -so let's take a lil looksie back to not that long ago -we had ONE -- - -ONE fricken recruit with nothing on the horizon - -and yet now we have FIVE -- Five in that short amount of time - -are they 5 * - no - -but for the amount of time Coach has had - -he has done fine
Now you give Les and the Staff a full year to recruit? - -you just sit back - - hide and watch - -see how this guy recruits - - Holy Bat Shit - -I mean GOG - -DOGGIES - - REALLY? --SERIOUSLY? - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Just got a commitment from Naylor's team mate Andrew Parchment. Another WR.
Parchment and Naylor are freaky athletes. Really big too. Immediately juices the running game. Both should be here next month.
BShark said:
Just got a commitment from Naylor's team mate Andrew Parchment. Another WR.
like some are saying I think we are probably done in this class with Juco WR'S - -watch his film - -he looks a little taller then 6'3 to me - -more like 6'4 or even a tad then that - -looks long nice hands
@jayballer73 people are just bit**ing to do it, unfortunately all fans bases have those guys. I thought we’d be lucky to get a few 4 stars with this class. If that doesn’t happen then so be it, as you said it’s plenty late in the game and most guys will probably sign here in the early session. The most important thing is to fill up all 15 spots we can with the most talented guys we can get. I don’t like seeing a high number of jucos but we have to get what we can at this point. Next years recruiting class will the one that Miles should be judged off of. If we can win 4 ( MM was the last coach to win more than 3 in 2009) or more games, that would be huge to show guys how fast he can turn this around with the right talent.
KU does have a couple of good receivers coming back. Stephon Robinson was solid all year and Daylon Charlot came on strong the last couple of games to give himself some momentum going into next season. KU really only needs one more reliable receiver for next year to have a solid receiving group.
Cole Mueller decommitted. Have to take it as a sign they have 15 better in mind.
FarmerJayhawk said:
Cole Mueller decommitted. Have to take it as a sign they have 15 better in mind.
Has to be the case. Seemed upset based on the tweet.
like is pointed out off other sites. - -There was no thank the staff or thanks for the opportunity at the end of his tweet.
Sounds pretty much like the staff told him umm sure you can come out - -BUT - -you might wanna check out other opportunities - -Might of wanted him to try and change to another position. - -just kind of think that umm - - - - ya. -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
We got Terry. My god I love that kid.
FarmerJayhawk said:
We got Terry. My god I love that kid.
Amazing find, imo.
HUGE GET.
FarmerJayhawk said:
Cole Mueller decommitted. Have to take it as a sign they have 15 better in mind.
Perhaps not necessarily next season but more likely moving forward when the staff has had a chance to recruit and the message its sends is that KU will be getting high caliber prospects and 3 star players might not see much playing time in the future.
BShark said:
HUGE GET.
I see what you did there. 🤣🤣🤣
Terry could be a very interesting player for KU. He's maybe a bit of a project, but he has the physical tools to be an interior force. Even more importantly, he opens a potential secondary recruiting pipeline into Mississippi. While KU can't necessarily count on always getting into a state like Mississippi for recruits, having connections there will always help, as Mississippi turns out a good amount of talent every year.
So far we have three HS players and three juco players. Parchment was previously at Northern Illinois, while Naylor committed to Kennesaw State (FCS) out of HS. That should immediately boost the offense by having a new QB and some new threats on the outside.
Still looking for some defensive signings at the juco level. Having the HS guys is good for the future, but the D could use some stabilizing forces as well with Dineen graduating.
Expect a lot of news these next two days. I expect 3 or 4 more guys. Definitely 2.
Flipped JUCO DE Caleb Sampson. Former Missouri player before JUCO.
3x3 guy. Huge.
I’d say Miles is thinking he’s got 15 players ready to come and that’s why Mueller decommitted. We probably would have kept him if we were gonna be a man or 2 short.
I'm surprised we haven't heard anything from Jax Dineen at this point. I'd say the attempts to turn Garber either failed or didn't happen with the receivers we have just got. One other kid here in KS I thought we would try and turn was McCullough, 3 star safety outta Blue Valley North thats got a verbal to Miami (OH). You never whos name will come thru once the fax machine gets fired up tomorrow.
@kjayhawks rumor is we didn’t offer Jax a full scholarship, or wanted him to blue/Grey shirt.
justanotherfan said:
Terry could be a very interesting player for KU. He's maybe a bit of a project, but he has the physical tools to be an interior force. Even more importantly, he opens a potential secondary recruiting pipeline into Mississippi. While KU can't necessarily count on always getting into a state like Mississippi for recruits, having connections there will always help, as Mississippi turns out a good amount of talent every year.
So far we have three HS players and three juco players. Parchment was previously at Northern Illinois, while Naylor committed to Kennesaw State (FCS) out of HS. That should immediately boost the offense by having a new QB and some new threats on the outside.
Still looking for some defensive signings at the juco level. Having the HS guys is good for the future, but the D could use some stabilizing forces as well with Dineen graduating.
I've heard people bitching about the Juco's - - ( to many ) - -or not wanting that many. - -Like you said NOW at this point we have 4 Juco's - -3 High School - -true Les has offered ALOT of Juco's - -doesn't mean we are signing all of them. - -I think he has done fine considering the circumstance - -getting such a late start - -this years group isn't gonna knock your sock s off - -but I think it will end up a lot better then it was going to end up.
Would of liked to get another Dineen but looks like the lil kitties are going to end up with him -heard also we have really backed off Legrande -some possible head issues goin on there - -other schools backing off also.
Come 2020 class I think look out - -thinking we are gonna probably have one of our most talented groups to ever come in. Hide and Watch - - let the Wizard do this thing. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@FarmerJayhawk I haven't looked up any info on him, maybe he isn't good enough to be at this level. Haven't heard anything outta Jay since hes been on campus either.
@kjayhawks I personally think he's stuck at FB at this level, and not sure if we're really even going to use one with any regularity. Since we're stuck at 15 this cycle, it makes a ton of sense to blueshirt him if possible. Whether he wants to do that is a different story.
@FarmerJayhawk I'd move him to LB like Joe, people forget he actually played FB for a couple of games back in 2015.
kjayhawks said:
@FarmerJayhawk I'd move him to LB like Joe, people forget he actually played FB for a couple of games back in 2015.
I don’t think Jax is quick enough to play LB in the Big 12. And he’s really short. Joe and Jay are 6’2 and Jax is maybe 5’11.
Landed Justin Ford, 3* CB. May end up at S because of his size.
Didn't get Dontye but I would think with adding Ford today and Agbaw tomorrow I think that makes some sense.
Coach Miles tweeted about 8:30 this evening - -stated: - -Looking forward to adding some special guys to the Jayhawk family tomorrow
Starks - -will be making his choice at 8:00 A.M. - -tomorrow
Agbaw - - will be making his announcement at 9:30 A.M. - - - we shall see. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@FarmerJayhawk You seem to be more educated on Jax than I am lol.
kjayhawks said:
@FarmerJayhawk You seem to be more educated on Jax than I am lol.
Ha! Now that school is on break i just have the opportunity to watch football to my heart’s content. And it’s a glorious thing.
Agbaw is official.
Also, all five of the juco commits (MacVittie, Naylor, Parchment, Ford and Sampson) are expected to be on campus in January and participate in Spring drills. That is a big thing when recruiting jucos, as it makes it more likely that they will be 1) eligible and 2) able to contribute next season.
Fairchild, Russell, Terry and Agbaw should all arrive in the summer.
That's nine recruits, with a position breakdown of 1 QB, 1 TE, 2 WR, 2 DT, 3 DB.
We could still use depth on defense and along the offensive line. An impact skill player or two wouldn't hurt. With six scholarships left, that gives some flexibility. Miles has ensured that this year won't be a complete disaster on the recruiting trail.
@justanotherfan i havent seen ny offensive linemen yet though
Neither have I. KU also added Malcolm Lee, a juco defensive end. That makes 10 signings.
@justanotherfan When is Terry supposed to make it official?
I don’t expect any o-line until late, if we take any this year. We blueshirted quite a few this year. Terry should be this afternoon but I’m still a little nervous.
Really good start so far with the requisite band-aid JuCo players. I will guess that future classes will depend largely on how well KU does next season; 6 wins sends a message that KU is on the rise and a few players short of being a contender which might get higher ranked prospects to consider the up and coming team. Another 2-3 win season and we are back at the usual spot. With better coaching KU could have won 5 games last season and with the improved coaching staff there is no reason not to expect at least 6 wins.
@justanotherfan Lee was a pretty nice snag for the staff. Most people thought he was going to Iowa. I believe he was a top 40ish JC player.
Another signing that was not listed earlier is Torry Locklin, a dual threat three star QB from Texas (although he grew up in New Mexico). QB of the future?
Terry is still listed as committed, though he has not signed yet.
KU football’s 2019 recruits
(ratings from Rivals; √ = signed)
√ 3-star St. Thomas Aquinas S Jayden Russell (6-2, 190)
√ 3-star McEachern H.S. (Ga.) CB Valerian Agbaw (5-10, 170)
√ 3-star Mesa C.C. (Ariz.) QB Thomas MacVittie (6-5, 225)
√ 3-star Iowa Central C.C. WR Ezra Naylor (6-4, 210)
√ 3-star Golden West Coll. (Calif) CB Justin Ford (6-1, 180)
√ 3-star Iowa Western C.C. DE Malcolm Lee (6-5, 270)
√ 2-star Coahoma C.C. (Miss.) DL Caleb Sampson (6-4, 285)
√ 2-star Iowa Central C.C. WR Andrew Parchment (6-2, 185)
• 2-star Meridian H.S. (Miss.) DL Da’Jon Terry (6-3, 345)
√ 2-star Andale High TE Mason Fairchild (6-5, 250)
√ 2-star Rochdale H.S. (Texas) QB Torry Locklin (6-2, 195)
justanotherfan said:
Another signing that was not listed earlier is Torry Locklin, a dual threat three star QB from Texas (although he grew up in New Mexico). QB of the future?
Terry is still listed as committed, though he has not signed yet.
Grayshirt last year. Not sure we have any clue what we have with him yet. Get him here for spring and see what happens.
justanotherfan said:
Another signing that was not listed earlier is Torry Locklin, a dual threat three star QB from Texas (although he grew up in New Mexico). QB of the future?
Terry is still listed as committed, though he has not signed yet.
I think we are going to like Locklin down the road - -a real dual threat -he was right about 2500 yards passing -- 2500 yard rush both just a hair under 2500 - -like 32 TD's looks like be a nice 4 YEAR player for us - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
jayballer73 said:
I think we are going to like Locklin down the road - -a real dual threat -he was right about 2500 yards passing -- 2500 yard rush both just a hair under 2500 - -like 32 TD's looks like be a nice 4 YEAR player for us - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
He's a year out of HS, but he still has 4 years of eligibility. With MacVittie already here, could he be a candidate for a redshirt if he doesn't win the QB battle out of spring practice?
So Ol Les snuck this is on us lmao - -he some were worry about the commit of big boy not coming - -but in reality he just wanted to hold off until Wednsday to make it official with I think he said his Coach's.
Didn't mean he hadn't signed his LOI - just the Coach didn't say any thing about it so as to comply with the kids request - -can't blame him for that - -still glad we know he is coming for sure. - - - Ol Les being sneaky lo - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@FarmerJayhawk I was able to speak to one of my inside sources to KU this week with the holiday. He told me Jax was offered to be a preferred walk-on and was not happy. I was told the Dineens dad was escorted out of the football complex after a heated exchange with Les Miles.
kjayhawks said:
@FarmerJayhawk I was able to speak to one of my inside sources to KU this week with the holiday. He told me Jax was offered to be a preferred walk-on and was not happy. I was told the Dineens dad was escorted out of the football complex after a heated exchange with Les Miles.
Interesting.
I understand that the Dineen's are a legacy at KU and there's no doubt they have been good players and ambassadors for KU. That said, it's not clear KU is going to use a FB heavily in their offense (Jax position). If Jax were going to move to LB, I could see that, but his best position is FB. That makes KU a difficult fit for him.
It's unfortunate that KU and the Dineen's couldn't work this out, but with only 15 scholarships this season, they all count.
Difficult situation. When several generations of the family have played for KU I will guess they expected some preferential treatment that apparently Miles was not willing to give. While I understand that the coach has to look for the best players available, given that there are scholarships available, perhaps a good will gesture would have gone a long ways and it is possible that the local pipeline might have been damages in the process.
kjayhawks said:
@FarmerJayhawk I was able to speak to one of my inside sources to KU this week with the holiday. He told me Jax was offered to be a preferred walk-on and was not happy. I was told the Dineens dad was escorted out of the football complex after a heated exchange with Les Miles.
As much as we ( KU )had our relationships with the Dineen's and the guys have been really good for us - -just have to wonder on the other hand - -What? - -if Coach just feels we don't or can't afford to use a Scholi for Jax - -that's wrong not to offer? - - If Coach doesn't feel like he is at that point where he feels like he can use one on Jax then so be it.
I think at this point I trust his judgement more at this point. Yes Jax is a local kid - - yes the Dineens have played well for KU - -But from what I understand Jax is more of a fullback type - - -Ku doesn't use the fullback very much in our scheme - -just not a good fit.
Wouldn't you think for him you would want him to go somewhere that he fits - -such as K-State - they implement the fullback quite a bit in their scheme - -perfect fit - -I would want him to be happy - -not just because well my brothers both went here so you owe us for him. - - doesn't work that way -think this works out for both actually
My thought is with him being undersized, playing at a seldom used position and us only having 15 scholarships, maybe we just couldn't take him.
JayHawkFanToo said:
Difficult situation. When several generations of the family have played for KU I will guess they expected some preferential treatment that apparently Miles was not willing to give. While I understand that the coach has to look for the best players available, given that there are scholarships available, perhaps a good will gesture would have gone a long ways and it is possible that the local pipeline might have been damages in the process.
If it was a bigger class with closer to the full 25, you could do that. Les Miles is not in the business of kissing ass though, he's in the business of winning football games and has to be very selective in this recruiting class because it's only 60% of a regular class size.
This also says that KU will be running Chip Lindsey's offense and Les Miles offense because Miles absolutely utilized a fullback more than just about any other P5 program not named Georgia Tech. Were KU running Les Miles pro style system, Jax would've been one of the first players offered by Miles.
With all this said, I do wonder if Jay Dineen will transfer out due to this.
@Texas-Hawk-10 Honestly it sounds like a little bit of "My baby is the best and I'm too proud" to me. It's not like he had tons of D1 offers, I believe KU was the only power 5 team with him on their radar. Jay has decent size but I'm not sure he's been on the field to this point. I've heard that there is another little brother besides Jax, that supposedly the best of the bunch.
@kjayhawks special teams, didn’t he get his bell rung?
Looks like KSU had him on its radar...
@JayHawkFanToo I didn't realize he had signed with KSU wow, but yes KU and KSU were the only power 5 offers he had. Most were FCS, I'd be shocked to see him on the field much for at least 2 years.
Who was that guy on that one site who boldly (and at the time preposterously) predicted - after the Miles hire - that KU would win a national championship in football within five years? I very seriously doubt that. What say you, folks?
Marco said:
Who was that guy on that one site who boldly (and at the time preposterously) predicted - after the Miles hire - that KU would win a national championship in football within five years? I very seriously doubt that. What say you, folks?
LMAO -- I think the Chances of KU EVER winning the National Championship in foot ball is about like me becoming the President in the next 10 years.
Now that's not saying Les can't bring us back to respectibilty in the next 5 years - -get us to bowl games in the next 5 years - -possibly even might get to the point of challenging for the big 12 - -but the National Championship in the next 5 years? - - -umm - -don't think that's happening. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
With the way that the college football playoff is set up, if KU were to challenge for and win the Big 12, they would have a shot at the national title. Being in a P5 conference means that winning the conference could get them into the playoff with a chance to win the whole thing.
@justanotherfan KU could win the Big 12 and still not sniff the CFP. Texas went into the B12 title game at 9-3 this year. Had they beaten OU a second time this year, they still wouldn't have sniffed the CFP as they were ranked 14th going into that game. They weren't moving up 10 spots.
Even though the 2nd place team has been 7-2 since the return of the game. I don't think it'll be all that uncommon for a 6-3 record to make the B12 title game. It'll probably be a 3 way tie or something like that to get a 6-3 record in the B12 title game so KU could get there in a few years and if they get lucky with tie breakers.
I don't see KU making the CFP because the B12 schedule doesn't allow for something like 2007 to happen anymore. I don't think KU would've beaten OU that year anyway.
All we have to do is finish the season in January undefeated. I guarantee that would mean we won the NC.