About half way through the 1st quarter.
Carter Stanley came out as the starter.
Liam Jones missed a 49 yard FG wide left.
Hasan Defense with a pick 6 to put KU up 7-0.
Offense looked good on first drive.
Defense has been decent so far.
Khalil Herbert has been solid so far.
I will say that Carter Stanley winning the QB job isn't a great sign for the position this year. We've seen over the past 3 years what Stanley is and that's nothing special. He's been given every opportunity to succeed, but has never been able to impress.
Hopefully Torry Locklin can progress enough to take over later this year because he has all the tools to be a very good QB for KU.
@Texas-Hawk-10 pretty sloppy so far on both sides as to be expected early.
7-0 Kansas at the end of the 1st quarter.
ISU with 56 yards on 17 plays. 4 first downs with 9:34 TOP.
KU with 52 yards on 9 plays with 2 first downs and 5:26 TOP.
@Texas-Hawk-10 I'm not sure Stanley has ever been giving the key, he has had several solid outings. Beaty was just so pro Bender he never got a full chance.
Texas Hawk 10 said:
Khalil Herbert has been solid so far.
I will say that Carter Stanley winning the QB job isn't a great sign for the position this year. We've seen over the past 3 years what Stanley is and that's nothing special. He's been given every opportunity to succeed, but has never been able to impress.
Hopefully Torry Locklin can progress enough to take over later this year because he has all the tools to be a very good QB for KU.
Historically the qb position hasn't been great for Miles. I would agree that it's not a great sign.
Offensive line could be problematic.
@kjayhawks Stanley has had one good game in his career. Stanley was given every opportunity to win the job, but his arm strength, awareness, and decision making have always been sub par.
Stanley is definitely more mobile than Bender ever was, but he also got sacked a higher rate than Bender ever did.
I've never claimed Bender was elite, but once Bender stopped having to look over his shoulder last year, he played solid football and gave that team some good chances to win some games.
Stanley has always seemed like a better fit as a back up QB to me.
@BShark Miles has also always been someone who preferred a run heavy Power I. That's why he could never consistently beat Saban.
So far, there's definitely a much stronger Koenning influence than Miles influence with the offense so far. There's still a little bit of the "I", but not the majority of the offense which is a good sign.
That didn't look like a forward pass on that replay. Looked like half a yard backwards. Hopefully ref determines not enough evidence to overturn the call.
Oof
Gogo defense
I've never been a huge fan of the 3-4 or any 3 man front on defense. Too easy to open up running lanes to me.
Texas Hawk 10 said:
I've never been a huge fan of the 3-4 or any 3 man front on defense. Too easy to open up running lanes to me.
Hard on the linebackers. You better have thumpers to run it well
Offense looks like Beaty is still here
College kickers :face_with_tears_of_joy:
@Kcmatt7 My biggest reason is because you have to have a huge nose tackle and it's very rare to have a true two gap NT in college. Most DT's just aren't big enough in college to be effective at the role.
It can work in the NFL because guys are much more physically developed and can focus on building the mass to be effective.
If we can get the offense to wake up for a few series, its blowout. Defense has been solid outside of 2 plays
I would put MacVittie out there now to see if he could spark the offense.
Carter Stanley suuuuucks
kjayhawks said:
If we can get the offense to wake up for a few series, its blowout. Defense has been solid outside of 2 plays
I'm not too hopeful. At this point just win.
Kcmatt7 said:
Carter Stanley suuuuucks
Yuppp
Power I has been the best offense so far today.
Even completions are an adventure. Herbert tho!!!!!
I do like finally seeing play action. I'll never understand why Beaty didn't utilize it much more last year.
Two score lead yay
I think we'll see Macvitte all second half
kjayhawks said:
I think we'll see Macvitte all second half
Hopefully so, Stanley can't throw more than five yards that well.
I love Hebert but 2 of those runs are TDs with pooka. That's why I'm not worried about the offensive just yet.
Don’t have TV today. What does attendance look like?
Special teams coverage has been very good
At least from what I’ve seen. I didn’t flip it on until halfway through the first
Mike Lee baby
@kjayhawks Herbert is a great complimentary back to Pooka. Herbert is a very good back, but he doesn't have the game breaking speed Pooka has.
@Gorilla72 I haven't really seen a good shot of the crowd to get a good estimate of the crowd.
Hasan Defense with a stupid play there.
Should have had good field position . :/
@Texas-Hawk-10 that what I was getting at buddy.
Dom Williams not having a good half so far.
3rd and 14 bring out the punter
Safe to say we need to work on our screen game...
Or drop it for awhile. Teams will key on that knowing Stanley doesn’t have the arm to convert a lot of 3rd and longs
Too predictable on 3rd and long today. Screen every time. A draw play to Herbert would be a good mix up.
Great coverage again, the playing is silly, we are getting chunks running it so why stop.
At least we have a good punter.
Uhoh
Blown coverage on that play.
Hopefully defense holds them to a FG.
That penalty almost assures a td.
Can't see a good angle, Lee looked like he had the arm though.
It was a good call unfortunately
Finally a good shot of the crowd. Alumni side looked pretty full, endzone looked pretty empty, couldn't see the student side except the area where the band is. I would guess the crowd is 30,000 or so.
I think that's going to be a TD.
Wow. I thought it was a TD
Surprised at that one, guess refs couldn't see the outside of his foot.
Iowa State struggling against UNI
I think it was too close to call, I hate when they look for so long. That's not indisputable
Huge to hold them to three.
Hopefully Macvitte comes in and does something. It should be 24 to 3, missed opportunities is the offensive issues. Only 3 points on an average or even below average FCS defense
Dodged a bullet there...
Halftime stats: 10-3 Kansas
Total yards: ISU 163, KU 133
Total plays: ISU 35, KU 27
Rushing: ISU 18-81 (4.5), KU 15-89 (5.9)
Passing: ISU 12-17 82yds., KU 9-12 44yds.
Time of possession: ISU 16:28, KU 13:32
I honestly think this ISU team is better than coastal Carolina will be next week.
Les Miles said he’s sticking with Stanley in the 2nd half. Radio interview as he walked off. 🤔
Kcmatt7 said:
Iowa State struggling against UNI
That seems like it's pretty normal and ISU will escape with 3 point win on a late TD or FG.
Well- - Coach said he is staying with Carter. - -If Carter is our Starter without McVittie getting a snap - - - Were in trouble based of 1st half - -against an FCS football School. - Sorry.
Gorilla72 said:
Les Miles said he’s sticking with Stanley in the 2nd half. Radio interview as he walked off. 🤔
Not crazy about that, but also might be pretty condemning about MacVittie's ability.
Traditional Les Miles power I pounding Herbert up the middle has been the most successful offense so far. Hopefully more of that with some play action mixed in.
Texas Hawk 10 said:
Finally a good shot of the crowd. Alumni side looked pretty full, endzone looked pretty empty, couldn't see the student side except the area where the band is. I would guess the crowd is 30,000 or so.
ya they saying right around 30,000 maybe just a hair over
Defense looking shaky to start the half.
That was a helluva spot there
It was blown dead then he stuck the ball out to get. I would say a minimum of a half yard shy.
McCullough bailing out the defense there.
@Texas-Hawk-10 bend, dont break, wake up O!!
Parchment is going to be a good player for KU. I've liked his skill set since the spring game. He's the potential deep threat for KU if we put in a QB with an arm to push the ball down the field.
Sosinski sighting! (pls forgive if one occurred in 1st half)
Great drive by Carter right there. Good looking all around
Nice to actually see adjustments made from the 1st half.
We may need to switch kickers 😑, 4 points left the board off of Jones leg.
Don't think Liam Jones is keeping the place kicking job for long. If he does, FG's are going to be an adventure all year long.
Does anyone understand what the long review was?
kjayhawks said:
We may need to switch kickers 😑, 4 points left the board off of Jones leg.
That 49 yarder he missed isn't a gimme even with a good kicker at the college level.
Jones pushing everything left is concerning though and a switch probably needs to happen for next week.
I really like Parchment
That jet sweep to Parchment is going to be a good play all year. Can't wait get Pooka back and run a fake jet sweep a run it to the other side with Pooka.
That quick toss to the RB has sucked both times today
That was a piss poor executed play wow.
Awkward looking tackle on that catch.
I'm kinda frustrated ISU is still in the game at this point. They really shouldn't be, hopefully we can get a stop here or things get a little interesting.
That was pathetic on a 4th and 8. Let's get some points offense
@kjayhawks We're not a good team yet. These players don't know how to finish teams off yet.
Hopefully we get there under Miles, but it's a process and won't happen overnight.
Also, don't forget this game was only about a 4 point spread so it's not like KU was expected to blow ISU away.
ISU is pretty comparable to Nicholls St. so even hanging on for a win today is an improvement over last season.
@Texas-Hawk-10 I figured it would he close I predicted a 27-17 win. Just ticked because we should've blown it open.
@kjayhawks We're just not good enough yet.
That sack is why I'm not a Stanley fan, not enough awareness to throw the ball away when being pursued.
I think we may have just lost
I think we may have just lost
The QB position for us is basically just being a tackling dummy.
Need a stop here.
Damn
ISU's QB is better than Stanley.
Texas Hawk 10 said:
ISU's QB is better than Stanley.
Not close
Texas Hawk 10 said:
ISU's QB is better than Stanley.
Blows my mind we can’t get someone in here better
The offensive play calling has been worse than Beaty today and it's been killer.
Wvu and Iowa state also struggling wow
We just need a stop here
kjayhawks said:
We just need a stop here
MONSTER SACK
Nice!
And knocked them out of FG range too.
Lets gooooooooo
BShark said:
Wvu and Iowa state also struggling wow
Not too surprising on either account. ISU has historically struggled with UNI and WVU isn't a good team this year.
Holy shit woof
LMAO
Anyone but Stanley
Looked like a pass
kjayhawks said:
Looked like a pass
Wasn’t touched and went backwards tho
BShark said:
Anyone but Stanley
That one was on the OLine more than Stanley TBH.
That more of a pass than bradys
Yea they have to just put the best athlete back there even if it limits play calling
I feel sick to my stomach
I'm shocked it wasnt reviewed that's damn close.
It was pretty clearly a fumble. I don't see how ku wins now.
Oooof almost picked
Kcmatt7 said:
Yea they have to just put the best athlete back there even if it limits play calling
Scaling back the playbook isn't the issue with Locklin, he's just not ready yet to run a B12 offense.
How does every team we see have better QBs
Stanley is an adventure lol
Okay Parchment was a good late find in crootin
Hell yes!!!!!!
kjayhawks said:
How does every team we see have better QBs
Changing offenses every year limits the development of QB's much more than people realize. The announcers keep bringing up Stanley being in his 5th offense in his 5 years. That's why our QB's don't look better.
They are spending every spring learning a new system instead of growing in a system. I'm hoping Koenning stays for awhile so the system is consistent and the QB's can actually develop in the spring instead of learning a new system for the next several years. If that happens, we'll see the QB play make real strides forward.
Double hell yes
Parchment is going to be a star. Best player on offense for KU today by a lot.
Can Les Miles borrow Katie McClure from the soccer team to be the place kicker this year?
Need this stop. Man defense and send six please
Let's go D
Game!!!
Ball game!
3 kneel downs coming up.
1-0
My score was pretty dam close, a win is a win for Kansas football
EXHALE
I will give Stanley and the offense credit last season they wouldve folded there. They went out and got it back.
No Coasting next week! (Pun intended.)
Les Miles now has the highest winning percentage in KU history! 🔥
B12 struggling a ton today ISU in the second OT with UNI and WV down at the half 7-3
@Gorilla72 2nd best, Fielding Yost went 10-0 as Jayhawks head coach.
kjayhawks said:
B12 struggling a ton today ISU in the second OT with UNI and WV down at the half 7-3
JMU is the second ranked FCS team. They could beat quite few FBS teams, including several P5 programs.
@Texas-Hawk-10 Same percentage, though! Sorry, couldn't resist.
Stat of the day: James Sosinski now has more points for the football team (6) than the basketball team (4) haha.
Iowa State escapes in the 3rd overtime after recovering their own fumble inside the 2 yard line. WV now tied late in the third. I hope all B12 teams win besides KSUCK.
Watching Coastal Carolina play eastern Michigan right now. I thought maybe ISU could be the better team but I'm not sure. These guys look to have good size and speed.
@kjayhawks Those are two bad teams. From the little bit I watched, I think ISU is better than both CCU and EMU.
Solid win. The line play wasn’t great on either side, but did just enough. Stanley was passable. Kid has stones. Rumor is MacVittie is nicked up. I didn’t love the playcalling, especially in the first half. I think the offense will be a work in progress as the staff gets a better idea of what they have. Pooka will make a huge difference next week. Pooka + a week of film to digest makes me think we’ll be better next week. It is abundantly clear this staff can coach. Les was a steady force out there and even had his great Mad Hatter moment. We’re in a good spot.
BShark said:
Stanley is an adventure lol
If Stanley is an adventure - - what does that say about McVittie? - -not a single snap
Think David Lawrence made a pretty accurate statement after KU went down . - -After the game he said - -that's the difference between last years team and then this years team.
Last year after ISU went up late - would of been ballgame. - - Not this year - -said it's all about changing of the environment - -chemistry.
Stanley was far far from perfect today - - Yet got to give him props on that last drive very solid drive - - It's a win and we move forward from here guys - - take the win - -we got ALOT of work to do , BUT, you crawl before you walk - -hopefully we can learn from the mistakes today , enough of them to learn from.
Curious to see if he tries McVittie to start next week? - -Maybe he STILL doesn't know who he wants - -yet he said he would play 2 QB's a lot - that's what surprised me more then anything - - - no McVittie all day not ONE snap -they pretty well stuffed our running game after that 1st run by Herbert - -will be good to have Pookie next weekend. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@Texas-Hawk-10 definitely tough to gauge. Usually most teams make a big jump from week one to two. Hopefully we are one of those teams, with the added plus of Pooka Magic.
@jayballer73 I like the idea of sticking with someone, so its not the revolving door like with Beaty. Stanley definitely had some bad passes and poor plays. But most of which is very correctable, like leading you back forward on a screen and hanging on to the snap. Getting timing down with receivers and what not. I'd give him at least 3 games if he looked better all during camp and earned his spot.
It does my heart no good to see KSU score on their first 4 possessions vs Nicholls State.....
@Gorilla72 Nichols did lose some guys on defense, but I too thought that would be a close game. A person never really knows, I didnt figure ISU would need 3 OTs and a fumble bouncing their way to beat UNI either.
Big 12 stays unbeaten with one game left this weekend as OU plays Houston tomorrow night. Boston College looked sloppy vs Virginia Tech tonight winning 35 to 28. Former KU QB Ryan Willis was terrible turning over the ball 4 times tonight (3 picks and a fumble) and someone else also lost a fumble for VT. Not often does a team lose on the road by a score with that many TOs.
Hey, we've got some terrific receivers; all the other parts, especially the offensive line were pretty poor. I'm looking forward to getting Pooka back and seeing the post-game one improvement that sometimes happens.
stoptheflop said:
Hey, we've got some terrific receivers; all the other parts, especially the offensive line were pretty poor. I'm looking forward to getting Pooka back and seeing the post-game one improvement that sometimes happens.
I've got mixed feelings about the oline. Pooka will make them look better and it's not like Stanley is doing too much even when he has time. I think overall the line was okay. It will improve as this staff starts getting in their own HS kids.
BShark said:
stoptheflop said:
Hey, we've got some terrific receivers; all the other parts, especially the offensive line were pretty poor. I'm looking forward to getting Pooka back and seeing the post-game one improvement that sometimes happens.
I've got mixed feelings about the oline. Pooka will make them look better and it's not like Stanley is doing too much even when he has time. I think overall the line was okay. It will improve as this staff starts getting in their own HS kids.
I have to agree with you BShark - I think overall for the 1st game the O-Line did OK - - -The one thing and I don't know how many fricken times I've said this - happened with the old staff and even now -- Get rid of that dam little flare pass in the flat - -NOT ONCE have I ever seen ANYTHING good come out of that. - Almost every dam time they try running that thing we got thrown for big loss.
Stanly can run some but like has been mentioned by some others I think actually - - Terry Locklin will be our best QB at the present anyways - -a more true Dual threat QB - has some motor to him - - Cater can run some but not like Locklin for sure. - -
It was the 1st game you take the win and improve from here - -last year we would of lost that game - -Pooka will help for sure - -however the O-Line has to be able to provide a hole to run through get that straightened up quick
@BShark From Section 26, Row 28, I saw ISU defenders in our backfield on almost every play. Our backs were being met with a defender 5 yards into the backfield. Maybe that's correctable. On our side of the ball, our defense rarely put any pressure on the QB or running backs. I just expected a lot more from our experienced offensive line and the defensive line is as weak as many predicted.
@stoptheflop remember there's beer this season so we can drink within the stadium when things head south lol.
I really dont think there is any reason to panic right now. Last season after losing to Nichols, I thought we were probably only winning one game. Beaty and his staff improved the team and with pooka we were able to win 3 games. Several years we have seen a Bill Snyder mildcat team escape week one with a narrow victory but end up winning 6-8 games. Heck in 2011 they scored in the last few minutes to beat a FCS team in eastern Kentucky that would only win 3 games all year and KSUCK ended up winning 10 games. The point is, that good coaching staffs make their teams better each week and I'm interested to see how much Miles can improve this team by mid season.
@kjayhawks Agree. they need a set time limit. If it takes longer than 5 min how can it be indisputable?
In other good news Steven Sims JR has made the roster for the Washington Redskins.
I rewatched our winning drive and was impressed with the protection the O-line gave Stanley on that drive. Maybe that's a sign of better line play going forward. Also, Stanley's goal line play the previous series should have been called an incomplete pass; Stanley was in the process of passing when the ball was knocked loose. It sure seemed like the refs were very quick to call that a fumble. The stadium announcer called it a backwards pass, but of course there wasn't a receiver behind Stanley.
@stoptheflop I agree, go back and watch KSUs "forward pass" against Mississippi State last season. The one looked like a fumble more so than Stanley's and by a lot.
@stoptheflop Even though most of the OLine played last year, several of those guys (center and right side) are in new positions so there is a little bit of a learning curve. I'm not too worried, but it'll take a couple of games for their chemistry at their current positions to gel together.
@stoptheflop that and sitting here thinking about how they didnt even review it ticks me off. It was a crucial play for both teams and late in the going. I'm not sure who the crew was but I hope they weren't B12 and we never see them again.