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Self about Agbaji - “The biggest thing is he just needs to go out and be Ochai,” Self said. “Just play with a free mind and have fun and not worry about consequences or what happens. Just go out and play. And enjoy it.”

The quick hook is truly dead. But I love it when Bill Self’s words so clearly support a position debated multiple years ago.

BShark

Nov 23, 2019 02:19 PM #34

@HighEliteMajor I mentioned this elsewhere but I gotta say it again... I am very pleased with this development.

HighEliteMajor

Nov 23, 2019 03:33 PM #35

@BShark Man, me too. His bench demeanor, everything in that regard, has appeared to reach a near perfect spot.

Crimsonorblue22

Nov 23, 2019 03:43 PM #36

Some will still get a quick hook, but och’s isn’t because of effort. So the hook’s not dead.

HighEliteMajor

Nov 23, 2019 04:03 PM #37

How about the "classic quick hook" then -- for simply shooting an ill advised three? I watched in 2016-17 when we gunned some really bad threes. Self just sat there. That's the season it died, in my opinion. In prior seasons, he'd do the flopping around thing, face turning red, head ready to explode. But sure, he'll still go back to momma here and there. When he bought into the three, I think he really bought in.

But I've said a number times here my all-time favorite was the Anrio Adams hook. Adams in. Ball thrown to Adams, one or two bounces, off his foot, out of bounds, back to the bench -- 2.3 seconds. Never to be seen again. A thing of (perverse) beauty.

kjayhawks

Nov 23, 2019 04:13 PM #38

I think this early in the season with as young as a club as we have, encouragement is the right way to go. Doesn’t mean you never get on a guy but we are fairly young outside of Moss and Doke. SDS is a junior that’s played like 20 games.

Crimsonorblue22

Nov 23, 2019 04:21 PM #39

Go back to momma?

HighEliteMajor

Nov 23, 2019 05:05 PM #40

Just a way of saying reverting to what is one’s typical manner of operation.

wrwlumpy

Nov 24, 2019 02:12 AM #41

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Gorilla72

Nov 24, 2019 05:44 PM #42

@wrwlumpy - lots of “guns” there. Should be illegal!

dylans

Nov 24, 2019 05:55 PM #43

@Gorilla72 They’re good. No conceal carry permit required in KS. 😝

drgnslayr

Nov 25, 2019 04:25 PM #44

I hope Och is ready for action. He seems a bit overwhelmed with Hawaii and I wonder if he will be able to focus on basketball. We've had that issue before with players.

This is a good test for Dot. Can he keep his troops focused on basketball?

I'd love to see the match up with Izzo, but we all know the rest has to fall in place first. And there are no automatics in the enchanted land of Hawaii.

HighEliteMajor

Nov 25, 2019 04:56 PM #45

@drgnslayr I think this whole season will be a great test for Dotson. Can he be the leader? Really looking forward to this tourney.

wrwlumpy

Nov 25, 2019 06:05 PM #46

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BShark

Nov 25, 2019 06:34 PM #47

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jayballer73

Nov 25, 2019 07:38 PM #48

@BShark - - Mercy Dayton taking it to Georgia - -RIGHT OFF the bat. - -dude has 12 points in less then 4 minutes.

jayballer73

Nov 25, 2019 07:41 PM #49

@wrwlumpy -- Mercy - -IF we win , I know but always have to say IF no matter , but if we win - -we don't play till 10:30 tomorrow night lordie - -I'm old late for me lol

BigBad

Nov 25, 2019 08:03 PM #50

jayballer73 said:

@BShark - - Mercy Dayton taking it to Georgia - -RIGHT OFF the bat. - -dude has 12 points in less then 4 minutes.

NBA scouts have already been looking at Toppin.

Crimsonorblue22

Nov 25, 2019 08:15 PM #51

@jayballer73 is that eastern time?

jayballer73

Nov 25, 2019 08:24 PM #52

Crimsonorblue22 said:

@jayballer73 is that eastern time?

Oh ya your right. - -So 9:30 CST. - -my bad lol

jayballer73

Nov 25, 2019 10:20 PM #53

Oh mercy, sounding like we are going to get Walton as the color Commentator for our game. - -Mercy - -Mercy - -WHY ? lol - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

FarmerJayhawk

Nov 25, 2019 11:35 PM #54

We’re only 36 point favorites so Walton will at least be entertaining

BShark

Nov 26, 2019 12:05 AM #55

FarmerJayhawk said:

We’re only 36 point favorites so Walton will at least be entertaining

Looks like we should dodge Sparty though VT is going full Memphis at the line.

Edit: Final, VT wins...

jayballer73

Nov 26, 2019 12:08 AM #56

Well VT= = Auburn 18-19 ? - -IF again always have to say IF - -we get that far to play in the Championship , probably be a game where we play 4 around 1 - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Kcmatt7

Nov 26, 2019 12:22 AM #57

Well that sucks for us fans and our SOS

jayballer73

Nov 26, 2019 12:30 AM #58

FarmerJayhawk said:

We’re only 36 point favorites so Walton will at least be entertaining

Think I need to bust open a new bottle of Sin Fire take a couple of stiff shots so I can tolerate Walton - -just watch he goes on one of his ramblings and just rambles on an on about anything and everything but the game.

What makes it bad is he sucks the play by play into his insanity and the game is just going on and their talking about everything but the game

wrwlumpy

Nov 26, 2019 12:30 AM #59

DOWN GOES RATSO IZZO!!!!!!!!

BShark

Nov 26, 2019 12:34 AM #60

Kcmatt7 said:

Well that sucks for us fans and our SOS

Great for me not having to see Izzo's face.

drgnslayr

Nov 26, 2019 05:22 PM #61

@HighEliteMajor

My fears about Och being distracted actually seemed to be the opposite. He's probably been overthinking the game and needed the break to have a fresh start.

At least, I hope this pans out throughout the tourney. And Dot needs to keep establishing himself as the leader of this team.

Marco

Nov 26, 2019 05:38 PM #62

drgnslayr said:

@HighEliteMajor

My fears about Och being distracted actually seemed to be the opposite. He's probably been overthinking the game and needed the break to have a fresh start.

At least, I hope this pans out throughout the tourney. And Dot needs to keep establishing himself as the leader of this team.

The problem with Och is that he has always just played while flying way under the radar. But there are now expectations - people talking and him thinking about his being in the NBA - and he is not dealing with them very well.

What he needs to understand is that he is only a sophomore, and needs to just play and work on his game while trying to be a student-athlete and get his degree. If he does that he will be fine and the NBA will be there, if not he might - give him to mid-season - have to come off the bench. He is thinking way too much.

Crimsonorblue22

Nov 26, 2019 05:40 PM #63

Och is good! He just needs to keep on playing! Dang that dunk on 3 guys!💥

HighEliteMajor

Nov 26, 2019 06:26 PM #64

I've been way on record about how I think about Agbaji. Just play him, give it time. He was not a top 50 guy, but will play into that.

Crimsonorblue22

Nov 26, 2019 06:52 PM #65

He's a stud! Basically a short year under his belt.