I sabotaged their special mormon underwear. We good.
@kjayhawks Seen some around before, pretty sure they don't celebrate ANYTHING.
Been to Utah a three of four times. Drove the loneliest road in American last summer (US 50) to California, then came back through SLC. Utah gets a bad rap. It's a really beautiful state. The LDS influence only bothered me that I couldn't get strong beer. (not that strong, just >5% which would be a decent IPA)
BShark said:
@kjayhawks Seen some around before, pretty sure they don't celebrate ANYTHING.
They celebrate Easter and Christmas.
Go DMac
KU has to defend the 3 point line tonight. BYU will let it fly from deep and they are a very good outside shooting team.
hyperventilating. Slow it down a bit.
Not sure why we are starting with two bigs again but okay.
two bigs work when they make the layups
BShark said:
Not sure why we are starting with two bigs again but okay.
Why should Self adjust to an inferior opponent? Make the inferior team adjust to you.
SFA hanging around with Duke midway through the second half.
@Texas-Hawk-10 They don't look inferior while draining wide open threes.
Dont ever play 2 bigs again
The 2 bigs are why the three is so open, this game could be a track meet. Only way it works great offensively is if Dave can hit that 17 footer 60% of the time.
BShark said:
@Texas-Hawk-10 They don't look inferior while draining wide open threes.
They're inferior, they live and die by the 3. Play two bigs, wear them out, and then pound them into submission.
Hey, do you think BYU should play more zone? Or... Morman?
kjayhawks said:
The 2 bigs are why the three is so open, this game could be a track meet. Only way it works great offensively is if Dave can hit that 17 footer 60% of the time.
And KU doesn't have the back court depth to play 4 guards the entire game.
I like our chance as long as BYU shoots less than 50% from three. They aren't going to get much in the paint or any rebounds.
Dotson has been bad on defense so far.
Interesting we havenāt gone to the bench yet
we have now moss and Tristan
Get back on Offense
Isaiah Moss
ugh, that shot by tristan
we look like crap with 4 guards, IMO
DanR said:
we look like crap with 4 guards, IMO
Our offense is crap period.
Shooting a lil quick
DanR said:
we look like crap with 4 guards, IMO
We look crap without Doke anchoring the paint.
This is duke level stupid
Doing too much 1 on 1 action, move the ball!
terrible shot selection with this group. Garrett with a 3 attempt early in the shot clock?
BeddieKU23 said:
This is duke level stupid
Speaking of Duke, they are tied with SFA with about 7 minutes left.
Moss hopefully isnāt a 100% from his hamstring because he just looks so slow, Dedric Lawson slow.
Stephen F Austin tied at 74 with Duke?
Get doke back in there and feed the beast or drive. (aka, run the offense)
Interesting line-up alert.
dude pulled Silvio to the floor, WTF?
This is the worst offensive line up KU could play with its scholarship players.
Pretty sure making layups isnt this hard
Offense is very stagnant.
Battle 4 Atlantis is a stacked tournament. 4 top 15 teams in the field.
boooo
This cylinder crap is a joke
Not a good stretch for Braun. Hoo Boy.
Well deserved
Ball movement sucks right now.
Everyoneās gotta remember we are young and still havenāt played anywhere near our ceiling
Dotson needs to figure out how to control a game like this.
Duke has a 37-13 FT advantage in that one. Go figure. SFU has only attempted seven 3-pointers too.
Good grief, guys. What 6 minutes now without jack
wth
Take moss out. PASS THE BALL INSIDE
DanR said:
Good grief, guys. What 6 minutes now without jack
And only down 1. Defense has come on after a rough start.
Make good decisions
Jack up shota
@Texas-Hawk-10 I'm not worried, just kinda disgusted with the strategy of pushing it
Got a lay up!!!
I did like the behind the back passš¤£
Nice d
Texas Hawk 10 said:
DanR said:
Good grief, guys. What 6 minutes now without jack
And only down 1. Defense has come on after a rough start.
Been impressed with the defense at least. Forcing tough looks now.
Defense has been fine as well as rebounding all but a few possessions
No!
Oh no Tristan
He saw hole
BYU ball? WHAT
SFA up 1 with 3 minutes left
Mitch Lightfoot's shorts are A+
Enaruna not much help
Layups. We make them look like full court shots
Agbaji really needs to make that put-back.
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Agbaji really needs to make that put-back.
I was expecting that to go in, not sure why though.
SFA back up 1 with under 2 minutes left
Doke wide open for a lob from Dot there, we continue to play as individuals on offense.
Duke up 1 with 1 minute left
kjayhawks said:
Doke wide open for a lob from Dot there, we continue to play as individuals on offense.
Duke has not lost a non conference home game since 2000.
Top ten
Wow lol
Kid was flopping
SFA to the line with 47 seconds left
Bilas is a piece of shit. I used to love him now I can't stand the guy.
1-2, tied at 79
Thatās not a foul because he turned away from the basket to hit him lol, the offensive player made the contact
Ochai oh no
Oh yah
Duke with possession tied at 79 with 41 seconds left.
You know, I get irritated that we can't get the ball in to Doke, but he's just not catching it tonight
Agbaji made one!
Dang that guy in prison?
Giving up those 3s is just maddening
It wouldn't be a Kansas game unless there was a weird-looking big guy making rare 3's.
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
It wouldn't be a Kansas game unless there was a weird-looking big guy making rare 3's.
The full experience. We need a moving screen now...
Duke to the line with 29 seconds left
Devon that's on you.
Jeez, Dot.
Tre Jones made both, Duke up 2 with 29 seconds left, SFA with last possession
Duke/SFA going to OT. Duke missed about 3 close shots in final sequence.
Why do we go under screens? Thatās stuff we worked on in middle school. 5 suicides per time outta solve it.
A missed layup and dunk on the same play. Fitting
kjayhawks said:
Why do we go under screens? Thatās stuff we worked on in middle school. 5 suicides per time outta solve it.
Most middle and high schools play zone defenses so they don't know how to do that.
Braun Square up. Jeez
Duke-SFA going to OT. Duke with a 40-17 FT advantage.
@KirkIsMyHinrich joke
Duke isn't very good. But, we really aren't either at this point.
Just what I was afraid of. We're going to have to grind this one out, then hope we have enough gas for tomorrow.
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Duke-SFA going to OT. Duke with a 40-17 FT advantage.
Dont worry the refs have this
Still tied at 81 with about 3 minutes left.
SFA up 2
@Texas-Hawk-10 lol
BeddieKU23 said:
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Duke-SFA going to OT. Duke with a 40-17 FT advantage.
Dont worry the refs have this
man how sad is that? - -there is no way - -oh wait - - in Cameron at Bone nose house
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
@Texas-Hawk-10 lol
I've actually watched a good chunk of the game, SFA plays a physical, pressure defense. There have been very few bad calls tonight
@Texas-Hawk-10 think you missed the point. We seldom played zone and most the teams we went against didnāt either. The point is thatās defensive basketball one-o-one from our coach thatās supposed to be a defensive minded guy. Go watch the Michigan sweet 16 collapse, think we when went under 3 screens late including Burkeās game tying one. āTo do the same thing repeatedly and expect a different result is insanityā Thomas Jefferson.
what like 2-9 from 3 ? - -Has Doke scored ? - - if you can't hit a 3 then you best be getting the ball inside - - not gonna win very many games shooting like that. - -Thank goodness they shooting just about as poor. - -Scary thing is they can get hot from the 3 I think faster then we can
kjayhawks said:
@Texas-Hawk-10 think you missed the point. We seldom played zone and most the teams we went against didnāt either. The point is thatās defensive basketball one-o-one from our coach thatās supposed to be a defensive minded guy. Go watch the Michigan sweet 16 collapse, think we when went under 3 screens late including Burkeās game tying one. āTo do the same thing repeatedly and expect a different result is insanityā Thomas Jefferson.
I'm not missing the point, most schools these days play zone defenses so screening isn't a big offensive play so kids today don't know how to defend it properly when they encounter it. This is a different generation than when you were in school. I know this because I am middle school basketball coach and we run 90% 2-3 zone because we're so limited in practice time we don't have time to teach proper man defense.
83-93 with 1:13 left, Duke ball.
Shot clock violation on Duke. SFA ball with 58 seconds left tied at 83
Hurt with a block, Duke ball
SFA WITH A BUZZER BEATING LAY UP!!!
85-83 SFA on a wild final sequence
WAY TO GO LUMBERJACKS !!!
@Texas-Hawk-10 I remember my high school coach blowing dead a scrimmage and telling us the next person that goes on under a screen will join his teammates in hitting every step in this place no less than 5 times. Itās fine that you play a zone, that can work well with the right kids and going against certain teams. I just donāt like seeing our guys do it repeatedly at this level my friend.
What a great day.
@KirkIsMyHinrich Not unless we win.
Hell ya, I was yelling shoot it!!! I didnāt think he was gonna make it in time. Poop here comes the sleeping wife. Lol
Duke got beat
Duke had 20 some to's
Wonder how much Duke paid 'em to come to Cameron?
Crimsonorblue22 said:
Duke had 20 some to's
Karma right?
That ended Duke's home winning streak against non-conference opponents too. Good job, SFA.
We better come out sharp!
So much for that
Devon continues to suck
Nice big dave
Atta boy
If they make those shots then I'm fine with them winning. Jeez.
Nice feed, Dot
Then.....
Lol
Air ball
stache isn't that good
We need to do a 3 man weave for about 8 hours straight lol
take off the concrete mittens, Doke
Go
Marc G the sniper
Looked goodš
That's a technical foul
Was that on them?
Garrett coming to play this half.
Crimsonorblue22 said:
Was that on them?
Yes and the guy didnt make a play on the ball just decked Doke in the back
Okay defense tonight. Need to tighten up the sloppy open court passing tho.
@BeddieKU23 they looking at itš
If Kansas were the team that shoved, you can be sure Bilas would be lobbying for a technical.
Was it the prisoner?
BeddieKU23 said:
Crimsonorblue22 said:
Was that on them?
Yes and the guy didnt make a play on the ball just decked Doke in the back
This should absolutely be a flagrant but Doke is big and strong so maybe they won't call it...
I dont trust they will they couldn't even see Silvio get tackled to the ground in the first half
Doke has been hacked all night. He just plays through it, so they don't all it
@nwhawkfan we go above the screen on defense they probably still have 20 points. Thatās where most of their 3s have came from. They also just air balled a wide open one lol.
looked good on that last freebie, Doke!
Walk
Speaking of the snorkeling, I have Silvio on Snapchat he said he found Nemo. I told him that was Australia, he actually snapped back he here too lol.
Good D
Crimsonorblue22 said:
Good D
BYU has nothing for it when KU plays that well on D.
in out works for me
Walk again
Hacking Doke is good D tbh
Good lord hacking doke
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
If Kansas were the team that shoved, you can be sure Bilas would be lobbying for a technical.
Don't know why all the Bilas hate. He's been a lot more pro-KU than most of the ESPN guys.
Found this in an ESPN article from nearly a decade ago, when their analysts were asked what's the coolest college basketball arena experience. This what Bilas wrotes:
"...Taking Cameron out of the equation, it is Phog Allen Fieldhouse, and I'm not sure it is even a close call. One of my favorite parts of The Phog is the feel. I have sat there before practice when the place is empty, and it really seems to speak to you. That building just oozes history and tradition. There are no bells and whistles. It is about Kansas basketball, and everyone there is all-in. I have called it the St. Andrews of college basketball, and I believe that. Plus, the cherry limeade I usually get at halftime is pretty strong."
Ochai playing well
nwhawkfan said:
"...Taking Cameron out of the equation,...."
Yeah, that sounds like Bilas
oops...meant "this is what Bilas wrote"
Time to run up the score, no more brakes! Petal down
@nwhawkfan Because I listen to his in-game commentary. That statement about AFH is just a fact.
Crimsonorblue22 said:
Time to run up the score, no more brakes! Petal down
sunflower to the floor
@nwhawkfan I like Bilas and Williams personally. I get why he wanted a foul there but Iāve always hated that call when it the offensive player makes the contact, that he turned away from the bucket and made it too obvious. Whatās he gonna do shoot it to the stands?
I think Bilas is mostly fair.
Only thing, he's always right
@nwhawkfan I like Bilas except when he's calling Duke games, which is often
What's wrong with Dotson tonight
I like nick bahe, is that right?
I really hope he (Dot) isnāt in some sort of sophomore slump. His decision making rivals Carter Stanleyās on the football team often wrong or late. Hopefully he turns it around.
@BeddieKU23 Hawes is running his butt off.
D dot looked a little ragged last pm too.
Dotson hasn't been very good most of this season.
Whoa!
We are boarding!
Tristan gotta make those.
Tristan Dunk that crap
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Tristan gotta make those.
The Perry Ellis bunny miss special.
Somehow that crap worked.
Weird inbound! Great D again
GREAT D!!!
SO UH THIS DEFENSE
holy š
Nice catch, Doke!
It's going to be fun watching KU try to stop Obi Toppin tomorrow night.
@Texas-Hawk-10 We all know who will be guarding him.
Bail out foul call.
Back to their regular shooting%
Refs really ruin the game
@KirkIsMyHinrich who?
Doke would average 2 or 3 more PPG if he shot -a modest 65% from the line.
This game is so late that we got the newsfeed dump threads while it is still being played.
@kjayhawks At least!!!
Dayton kinda looks like our kryptonite to honest. Odd to think of winning this without beating a power 5 team once. Wonder if itās been done before?
So who guards Toppin ?
@jayballer73 MG!!!
@jayballer73 Iād try Garrett on him
SFA coach spent time under Sutton, Self and Billy Kennedy. :eyes:
I thought och was fouled
Toppin is pretty tall. Maybe och
I'm impressed with the Haws kid from BYU. That he can part his hair.
If that's a foul that ref should go back to school
We're running offensive plays. Yay.
Easy to do that when your in the lane 6 seconds
Lay-ups are hard.
"Left the team"
@KirkIsMyHinrich these soft rims lol, both clubs missed several.
He sees those holes
Run the floorš°
Hey he has š back there
BYU tired?
@Crimsonorblue22 They've only played 7 guys, so probably.
@KirkIsMyHinrich so what do u think about och guarding toppin
8 now. nevermind.
@Crimsonorblue22 Marcus.
Okay Marc
@KirkIsMyHinrich ok, so no way?
Game has definitely slowed down for big Dave this year
Braun delivers
David Buckets McCormack
Wowš„
@Crimsonorblue22 I don't think Ochai would be a bad choice, but if I needed someone on the other team not to score I would have Marcus guard that person.
Braun kid has some long ass arms
Dayton is not a big team, Toppin is their biggest player (6-9 220). They will test KU's defense and I'm very curious who Self puts on Toppin because putting Garrett or Ochai on him means putting Doke/McCormack/DeSousa on a much smaller player.
OK time to clear the bench.
BShark said:
David Buckets McCormack
Just your standard 16 points on 9 shots for Davey Buckets.
@KirkIsMyHinrich I think Marcus is our best defender, but this guy is pretty tall
Rest the starters. Big game tomorrow.
If we could hit some opens 3 itād be nice lol
Poor Silvio! I never thought he'd have this kind of season-so far
Why are the starters still in?
Crimsonorblue22 said:
Poor Silvio! I never thought he'd have this kind of season-so far
He's still very raw, I'm not too surprised by this.
KU players not named Doke 8-10 at the line.
Maybe next time the Jayhawks go to Maui I'll try to go... Hawaii is the only state I haven't visited
Two down, one to go !
I think we are just playing toppin.
Jeez rock chalk flops?
Last time KU played Dayton, we held them to 43 points and Cole Aldrich dropped KU's first official triple double in the second round of the 2010 NCAA Tournament.
Crimsonorblue22 said:
Jeez rock chalk flops?
Boo
I think the way we kind of need to look at it is - - Toppin is gonna get his, the key thing will be - -just make sure the other 4 that a couple of them just don't go off for career days. - - Toppin is going to be a hard matchup with whoever we put on him.
Like Bilas was saying we put Garrett on him he just gonna post him up - - you put or try and put Doke or McCormack out on him he just take them outside. -- So do the best you can on him - - Contain the others. -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
It's like we don't usually get credit for even having Jayhawks in the nba, but now negative news.
I'm watching post game, screw espn
Duh, I know
approxinfinity said:
Hey, do you think BYU should play more zone? Or... Morman?
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kjayhawks said:
If we could hit some opens 3 itād be nice lol
Got to get better on our 3's
That SFA coach just made himself a nice jump to a job at the next level, if he wants it.
@jayballer73 we either have to shut him down or make sure no one else beats us.
Salty little game for big Dave, him and Doke combined for 12 for 15 the from floor. Dotson finally had decent assists to TO ratio with 8 and 2 but continues struggle hitting shots. Think he missed about 5 layups, most which where contested but Iād still like to see him not only hit more of those but a few jumpers as well. He didnāt make a single shot outside of 4 feet according to the shot chart and thatās disappointing. Shocking Moss was just 1 for 5 from distance but looked rushed to me.
kjayhawks said:
@jayballer73 we either have to shut him down or make sure no one else beats us.
Exactly , agree. Like I said he is going to get his , but we have faced others like this before, example and yes maybe little luck was involved - -but we beat Steph Curry - -for one, we just got to make sure no one else goes off crazy
While Dave played well, it is incredibly clear that some of our observations are correct -- and Bilas said it best -- McCormack and Doke "don't mesh well" on the court together. And Silvo basically being benched is just astonishing to me. I really wonder what is going on there.
Dave is a good player. Doke is a good player. But Dave is not a good enough high post player to make the high/low work. He's really a poor passer. He should NEVER shoot that 17 footer. That's the range of shots that in the day of the three pointer are the worst shots to take. The defense should invite that shot every possession.
Both Dave and Doke look really nice on the block. I don't think this is going to work though, with the long term goal being a national championship.
This will be something to monitor. Maybe the biggest thing.
And Moss needs to just square up and stop drifting. He did that on a few misses.