We good.
Countdown to Nova loss begins today.
Switched to my game shirt in time. Crisis averted.
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Countdown to Nova loss begins today.
Ew
Should be a fun night. We don't get many of these nights
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Countdown to Nova loss begins today.
Does KU play them next year? Cause it aināt happening this season.
Lets goooo
Ochai stay hot
Well then
Let's go Ochai confidence game.
That steals per game stat warms my heart.
OCHAIIIII
God damn Ochai, save some for Nova.
Ochai finally messed up. That was a bad pass when he had an easier one.
Its lit
BShark said:
Ochai finally messed up. That was a bad pass when he had an easier one.
Had an easy shot
If Doke could just make that jump hook more consistently he would be shooting 100%.
Garrett is an OG on D.
He's Garrett Payton.
Well will they score 40?
Man how the hell did we lose to Duke? Like I think they're a pretty good team but we are better.
The difference between Milwaukee and very good mid majors like ETSU and Greensboro is very apparent.
BeddieKU23 said:
Well will they score 40?
If KU played all out the whole game and didn't play the walk-ons either maybe not.
We know that isn't the case though. Self will do some troll line-ups and this definitely looks like a walk-on game so far.
Reminder that the next team on the schedule lost to this Milwaukee team.
LOL the weave
Let's just sit Doke and Dotson and play De Sousa and Braun/Enaruna more.
Probably a foul on Doke.
Ugly
I mean, if we are hitting threes we are just un fucking beatable.
This Milwaukee team ain't good tho.
Are they d-1?
BeddieKU23 said:
Are they d-1?
Chaminade looked better tbh
lol Doke
One too many dribbles for doke. One
DanR said:
One too many dribbles for doke. One
Doke dribbling is a sign that the game has jumped the shark.
Why the wrap on Dotsonās leg? Noticed him limping at last time out...
BShark said:
DanR said:
One too many dribbles for doke. One
Doke dribbling is a sign that the game has jumped the shark.
Baby Doke do do do do do
Dot not jumping much
I'd just like to point out that Dotson is night-and-day finishing from last season. He's on that Frank path.
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
I'd just like to point out that Dotson is night-and-day finishing from last season. He's on that Frank path.
Really a shame this is his last year.
Ochai with an... assist?
This game is timed perfectly to watch the end of Tech-UL and Penn St-Maryland at halftime.
They were really stretching d dot out before the 2nd half sat. Everyone else was shooting. We all were wondering about that.
@KirkIsMyHinrich PSU and TTU both up by 5 right now...
DCHawker said:
@KirkIsMyHinrich PSU and TTU both up by 5 right now...
Showing again how weird this season has been.
Isaiah Moss
Christian Braun is playing PG. Okay...
Edit: Marc G now.
When we shoot 7/12 from 3 the other team might as well not even play.
Fun game for Bill to experiment.
SILVIO DRIBBLING!
And didnāt look too bad doing it ĀÆ_(ć)_/ĀÆ
Woah, bad sequence for #1 there.
This is fun
How we looking? Who's hot, who's not?
How did Marc G keep that in bounds?
@approxinfinity Everything has looked good except Doke dribbling.
approxinfinity said:
How we looking? Who's hot, who's not?
Everyone
FarmerJayhawk said:
And didnāt look too bad doing it ĀÆ_(ć)_/ĀÆ
Gonna give him a B+. Doke got an F.
SCORE???
Big Clyde52 said:
SCORE???
40-12 8:24 left
Big Clyde52 said:
SCORE???
1 million to zero
Real score 40-12
@Big-Clyde52 40-12
Big Clyde52 said:
SCORE???
Alot to a little.
40-12. Think unc 2008
@FarmerJayhawk Thank you.
Anyone know the name of the cursive font we use on jerseys? Looks Sharp.
Christian wyd passing up that 3
Traveled too
@FarmerJayhawk It's a game to test things out. Braun confirmed that he's not Michael Jordan on that play. Now we know.
I honestly just feel bad for Milwaukee right now. This game is unnecessary.
Doke just made that guy retire
@KirkIsMyHinrich We do a pretty good job scheduling salty mid majors but its nice to have a small number of these.
Doke blocked that with his elbow
We passed up 3 good shots for that David jumper. Yikes
Is that.font the same as Kansas City Royals jersey font? 

Ochai has some room to improve.
Self's halftime board:
Doke, don't dribble.
Ochai, don't pass.
Braun, don't drive.
Okay let's get 'em boys!
@KirkIsMyHinrich Hopefully Ochai figures it out for next year.
My god, what a clinic they're putting on. Hustle on both ends.
So there has been, a, uh uh uh emphasis on uh rebounding tonight.
Rebounding!
clock checked saved Big Dave from clanking a tour around jumper
Tech up by 9. Penn St up by 6.
Penn St. is decent and playing at home so I'm not surprised by that. I am surprised by Tech though.
Slops
Autopilot
I don't think we appreciate how good Bill Self teams are at getting the ball into the post. By comparison the entry passes by UNC in the game I went to were pitiful
Edit: by we, I mean me.
@Big-Clyde52 Self has rightfully been pretty mad about the bad rebounding. It should be a stat this KU team dominates.
approxinfinity said:
I don't think we appreciate how good Bill Self teams are at getting the ball into the post. By comparison the entry passes by UNC in the game I went to were pitiful.
This team isn't great at it but I get your point. Still probably better than average because Self makes it a focal point.
Self drills the angles and the entry pass like no other.
I think the entry-passing has some room for improvement honestly.
@KirkIsMyHinrich Brady Morningstar agrees. I remember Selden being pretty good at it too.
Why does Silvio catch the ball practically on the floor on each entry pass?
@KirkIsMyHinrich Agreed. We turned it over quite a lot last game trying to force it in there.
Foul
lost my stream on +. thanks jeff long.
10-2 Milwaukee run. What's up???
Missed a travel.
Walk
It's back. Looks like video from the 1980s
How do you miss that
DCHawker said:
8-2 Milwaukee run. What's up???
Weird line-ups. Self is looking to get minutes for Silvio, Braun and Enaruna.
Dramatic
almost set a good screen, then bailed on it, silvio
I don't know about that. He looked pretty set to me. The guy just flailed.
I'm concerned that Silvio's weight lifting has messed him up.
He seems to run a little funny like he's got back issues and seems to have a lack of agility that I don't remember his freshman year.
approxinfinity said:
I'm concerned that Silvio's weight lifting has messed him up.
I think itās above the neck with him
Imagine 4 yrs of dotson
Dotson was just going to hang out with the cheerleaders until a teammate came over to help him up. LOL
Penn State still up by 6. 3 minutes to go.
@BeddieKU23 Or one year with Dot and Bryce.
Exactly what I'm talking about. This group doesn't have it on d. Wide open lay-up for Milwaukee. We won't see this line-up in real games.
Christian is a yr away from a year away of being average defensively
Junior dot, Senior Marcus, Junior Ochai sounds pretty good to me.
BeddieKU23 said:
Imagine 4 yrs of dotson
That 31-6-4-5-0 line against Dayton was what Derrick Rose wishes he was his freshman year. I'm still convinced Devon goes lottery (assuming his 3 point shooting is around 36%)
No reason Christian can't be a better defender than Grayson Allen. Bruan's arms are longer and he's not a tripper.
Our 5th guard in the rotation is Grimes defensively. We good
Not a great end to the half - they outscored us 12-7 in the last 6 minutes....
Coach heading to the locker room to chew out the bench.
Unfortunately I think Devon is a 2nd rounder no matter what he does. Being 6-2 with a streaky 3 hurts
The bench looked a little lost but thatās why we need this game.
DCHawker said:
Not a great end to the half - they outscored us 12-7 in the last 6 minutes....
I can see where it is frustrating to watch but it doesn't really matter. Would playing our best line-ups to be up 62-22 or so prove anything? If you don't experiment now there really isn't a time to do it.
Dotson is averaging like 19, 4, and 4. If he maintains that he's a 1st rounder.
DanR said:
Coach heading to the locker room to chew out the bench.
Also this lol
But to me he is basically everything you want in a guard and I'm happy he is a jayhawk
Tech up by 8 on L'Ville with 5:40. Tortillas!
As long as he doesn't land in Sacramento
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Dotson is averaging like 19, 4, and 4. If he maintains that he's a 1st rounder.
He may look like a first round talent to us but he really isnt getting that kind of love from scouts and those that do this for a living
Penn St up by 10 with 1:30 shooting free throws now. Not surprised. Maryland got away with one last week against Illinois.
@BeddieKU23 Derrick Rose shot 33.7% from 3 and 47% from the field and went #1 overall. I know things have changed since 2008 but speed still kills.
RELEASE THE TEDDY BEARS !
@BeddieKU23 Well as long as he doesn't go to Sacramento. 2nd-round picks can do well too (see: Graham).
Dotson looks like a 2nd year frank or Devonte to me. I think he'll be here st least one more year if not two
DanR said:
lost my stream on +. thanks jeff long.
I just subscribed tonight. Mine is working fine through my ROKU. Strange some work and others donāt.
What NBA player does he compare to? Serious question.
DanR said:
What NBA player does he compare to? Serious question.
I see a rich manās JJ Barea
DanR said:
Dotson looks like a 2nd year frank or Devonte to me. I think he'll be here st least one more year if not two
It's been widely discussed this is devons last season
I see a 1 inch shorter DRose and Westbrook.
@BeddieKU23 I haven't discussed it. He's not as good as Frank was leaving as a senior. does he have a 40 inch vertical like frank? Range of Devonte?
MD trying to come back...
Penn St is really trying to screw this game up. Man.
Louisville never should have gotten rid of David Padgett ;)
The 1 inch seems to matter. He has tremendous speed and is athletic. Pg skills still need tuning but he is a heck of a player
Yeah it doesn't matter if he's NBA ready or not, it's time for Dot to start cashing big checks. If he doesn't stick in the NBA he still has a long future in pro ball.
DanR said:
@BeddieKU23 I haven't discussed it. He's not as good as Frank was leaving as a senior. does he have a 40 inch vertical like frank? Range of Devonte?
Unfair to compare him to them. Devon as a sophomore is above where those 2 guys were as sophomores
Penn State closing it out.
Maybe a worse-shooting Damian Lillard? He's not nearly as athletic as Westbrook. Westbrook yams on dudes.
Tortillas up by 8 with 2 min.
Monster work on the boards so far. 29 to 9. Coach's butt chewing must've worked.
Penn St wins.
Kind of called that one. Road games in cbb are hard.
The Westbrook's of the world dont grow on trees. He has the speed of Felton in the College game. Hopefully when it's time he lands in a good situation. He is much more confident a player then he was going into the Combine. Should help his case
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Tortillas up by 8 with 2 min.
Would be a great win for the league esp after Tech had been dogging it.
@KirkIsMyHinrich And Tech still up by 8
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Kind of called that one. Road games in cbb are hard.
Yup. Big part of why the Nova game worries me.
BShark said:
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Kind of called that one. Road games in cbb are hard.
Yup. Big part of why the Nova game worries me.
Same.
Dotson plays below the rim and thatās why heās not high on scouts boards.
Nice play to start the half. Bill is decent at coachin'
Maryland players get off the floor before you get hurt, please. Penn St fans grow up.
Jay Bilas mentions peoples hair every game. Is he going to turn into a caricature like Vitale did?
I've given up on scoring 120, but I still would like to crack 100
@benshawks08 hmm. I wonder how much he can improve the vert. Frank worked for that 40"
TTU up by 12 with just over a minute to go...
Pro pass there by Devon
Thank you Texas Tech.
@stoptheflop I promised them my reddit cake if they won.
Lane violations are dumb.
Doke had to screw up someone else's free-throw after making one!
Embarrassing start to the half
Jeez
FarmerJayhawk said:
Embarrassing start to the half
They don't even look like they are trying.
hoping we can crack 80 now
Cover your kidsā ears, folks at AFH
So, they've outscored us 19-8 over the last 8 minutes....
Wake up guys
@FarmerJayhawk It'll be worse than the Snoop Dogg concert.
Self face turning red in 3.2.1
Wow. Things fell apart as soon as I got here. :frowning_face:
DanR said:
hoping we can crack 80 now
lol
approxinfinity said:
Wow. Things fell apart as soon as I got here. :frowning_face:
Great, can you watch the replay LOL
@approxinfinity 30 point lead with 6 minutes left in the 1st half...
Tech up by 13 with 45 seconds. Bye Louisville.
Dotson not improving that vertical anytime soon. He looks like his legs hurt bad right now. Heās slow (for him) switching like crazy on D, stiff and limping a lot. Iām a bit worried.
I'm a big fan of the volvo windmill commercial.
1 and #3 go down. Tech wins without Ramsey. We will be #1.
@Big-Clyde52 I think Ohio St probably will be.
Not playing like #1 atm
Louisville goes down. Tech wins by 13.
All starts with good d. Let's.kick these guys to the curb.
How about how fast doke runs the floor these days!
@KirkIsMyHinrich I hope you are right.
@Big-Clyde52 Well, assuming we hold on - after giving up almost half a 30 point lead.... ;)
12 bench points so far. That's an improvement.
Wife making cookies. Goodbye, weight loss.
looked better with two bigs in this game, IMO
Ok guys hear me out. Ochai as the 4
There's just no reason to go 2 bigs except as a wrinkle. Our guards are long and athletic.
Focusing again and doing well. WEIRD.
I thought we may get to 60 in the first but took over 5 minutes in the second to..
Does Marcus have Nikeās on?
@FarmerJayhawk Literally been on this train since the first half of Duke.
MARC G
Yep, Nikes!
Maybe Marcus has wide feet. Nike has a nice wide shoe if you need it.
HOLY SHIT
OCHAI OH MY
Dude. Ochai
Dotson was told to work on his lob game...
We look like the #1 team again.
wow. I'm behind you guys. thanks for the heads up :) that was great!
DAMN sport center #1
Ochai reminds me of myself back in the day playing on an 8 foot rim.
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
@FarmerJayhawk Literally been on this train since the first half of Duke.
Coming around. Not many guard skills. Really good rebounder and defender for his size.
@KirkIsMyHinrich For a while - have been outscored 28-21 over the past 18 minutes....
Baylor off to a good start. Up 11 with 9:20 to go. Clark not playing either.
@kjayhawks I do!
theres a difference between dunking on an 8 ft rim and looking like Ochai dunking....
@kjayhawks hey, I had to get 7 stitches when my wedding ring got caught on the rim doing a similar dunk. Emergency room intern had to cut the ring off.
Anybody read josh j. Was suspended a g league game?
Crimsonorblue22 said:
Anybody read josh j. Was suspended a g league game?
Missed a team meeting
@BeddieKU23 man that guy!
Crimsonorblue22 said:
Anybody read josh j. Was suspended a g league game?
Heās a moron and canāt do his job
FarmerJayhawk said:
Heās a moron and canāt do his job
Feels like he's close to bottoming out. Hope he gets his sh-- together when he runs out of excuses.
Dg 29 pts 6 asts
Doke is the man
I touched him satš¤
wth is that call?
Silvio canāt buy a break
Man bun Milwaukee kid has game
Wasn't Silvio an above the rim player his freshman year?
We had 45 points in the 1st 14 minutes - 22 points in the last 16 minutes....
@approxinfinity took him awhile though
I donāt hate Silvio taking that to the hole. Heās got some skill my dudes
Pure looking shot from the line.
Does he? That looked really weak and stuck on teh ground to me @FarmerJayhawk
approxinfinity said:
Wasn't Silvio an above the rim player his freshman year?
Against the scrubs where most of his minutes came from. Don't really remember him doing it against good competition.
Marcus wyd
Dumb foul
Marcus planned that charge from half court
Shoes
@Texas-Hawk-10 !Screen Shot 2019-12-10 at 9.36.53 PM.png ā
He bailed us out with 10 rebounds against Duke.
1-11 from three guy nails one. Every time.
approxinfinity said:
Does he? That looked really weak and stuck on teh ground to me @FarmerJayhawk
Heās not going to blow by everyone but he gets downhill and has a good handle for his size. Heās shown it at practice a fair bit
Big Dave letting the big 12 know he's going to take that 8 footer.
DanR said:
Maybe Marcus has wide feet. Nike has a nice wide shoe if you need it.
Funny you say that- I donāt wear Nikes because theyāre too narrow.
Just ugly
@Texas-Hawk-10 big 12 tourney, kicked butt
This is one ugly ugly half of basketball by the boys in white. Nothing outside of Ochais dunk, no energy and little effort.
Baylor up by 14. Some fans actually at the game today.
Not a pretty half so far - they've outscored us, outrebounded us and forced more TOs....
Flat, but probably not worth juicing them too much at this point.
kjayhawks said:
This is one ugly ugly half of basketball by the boys in white. Nothing outside of Ochais dunk, no energy and little effort.
Yep. Very weak effort most of the half.
dylans said:
Flat, but probably not worth juicing them too much at this point.
Agree.
@FarmerJayhawk Yeah. His handles are decent for a guy his size.
Sweet net
Isaiah Moss
Moss have Nike's too?
Tough make from that Milwaukee kid
That's a pretty bad shot that went in.
Doke with the tiptoe dunk
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
That's a pretty bad shot that went in.
Yeah you absolutely live with them taking that shot. Good defensive effort.
I do not need to see Moss driving again
@FarmerJayhawk At least he got free throws. Someone else didn't.
@FarmerJayhawk sure is a good ft shooter!
Watch De Sousa's high school vid again and tell me he still moves and elevates like that?
https://247sports.com/Player/Silvio-De-Sousa-85994/ ā
EDIT: hmm. maybe. Maybe I just didnt notice that he doesnt have much vert, has to collect to go up, and now he can't do that against D-I athletes.
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
@FarmerJayhawk At least he got free throws. Someone else didn't.
Very fair point
Moss can shoot whenever he has an open shot, as far as i'm concerned. I hope he can play enough minutes to get into a rhythm
Looks like a one-week stay at Number 1 if they keep playing like this
Humorously enough playing so lackadaisical down the stretch could actually hurt our kenpom rating. This game had a huge spread.
approxinfinity said:
Watch De Sousa's high school vid again and tell me he still moves and elevates like that?
https://247sports.com/Player/Silvio-De-Sousa-85994/ ā
EDIT: hmm. maybe. Maybe I just didnt notice that he doesnt have much vert, has to collect to go up, and now he can't do that against D-I athletes.
Was just about to say I donāt see that much difference. He has to gather and that always looks great against 6ā1 HS kids. Heās a good athlete moving side to side and fairly skilled but not a guy weāre going to run lobs for.
In a game like this a guy just wants to go win the second half and get the walk-ons in. Not sure we will see them outside of a few seconds.
@Big-Clyde52 reason?
I will say again. I can not remember a KU team that could put a team away consistently. This should have been a 40+ point win.
Milwaukee hitting some shots too
Big Clyde52 said:
I will say again. I can not remember a KU team that could put a team away consistently. This should have been a 40+ point win.
2011 is the last I remember just burying people
@FarmerJayhawk This team is just too inconsistent offensively to do it imo. 2011 team had all the tools.
Not much rest?
@Crimsonorblue22 No excuse for getting beat by 12 points over the last 23 minutes of the game by this team...
Oh my!
I'd take a 40 point blowout any day, but they might be able to learn something from this.
Bounceš
Sometimes Milwaukee makes junk shots, sometimes they airball them like that. Good D both times.
fans want 100. do it guys.
Fans want Teahan more than they want 100.
Ok guys. There are people in Las Vegas who really care about the last 74 seconds. Make it count.
I hope Milwaukee puts their walk-ons in too. This game is cooked.
ginger is in the game
DanR said:
ginger is in the game
AND CANS IT
TEAHAN TIME
Teahan can shoot it any time, as far as i'm concerned
GREAT TEAMS COVER
BShark said:
GREAT TEAMS COVER
Read my mind š
What was the spread
@KirkIsMyHinrich 26. JUST AMAZING NEVER IN DOUBT.
Shocked that we made it to 95.
Thanks to Teahan we cover and win the second half! I wouldāve put him in sooner
17 boards wow
Crimsonorblue22 said:
17 boards wow
Doke's line was absurd today. 7-7 from the field and 1-1 from the line!!!
I kinda hope the Roos give us a game for awhile. We need a wake up call.
Doke reminds me of the Royal's Salvy Perez in post game interviews. Speaks excitedly and confidently and I can barely catch every third or fourth word and I love it.
Great game by Doke, Dot and Ochai. Iāll be expecting more boards from Doke in the future, no reason why he canāt average 10 or 12. The main difference tonight is he actually went after them on both ends repeatedly, didnāt just wait and hope it came his way.
This was a "perfect" game. Played amazing flashing the true ability of this team when locked in. Proceeded to fool around with line-ups getting guys valuable pt. Guys got lazy so Self can chew on them then they put them to sleep after it got down to 16.
Tired of the lil promo music?
BYU up by 25 over a decent Nevada team. Makes us look better.
Excited Doke is boarding better, also makes me cringe with the hand injury history.
@Big-Clyde52 BYU is a solid, fringe tournament team imo. KU completely controlled that game, and really every game since the Duke game except Dayton as that one got hairy late (three games in three days didn't help).
Some good teams played in that stretch. Shouldn't be much of a game against KC so I'm really looking at the Nova game as a benchmark. Tough road game against a good offense.
@approxinfinity stop that!
WOW! Great block to save the Baylor win. Another undefeated goes down. Monmouth wins also. Yea!!
For sure a tale of 2 halves last night. You know for sure Self was not happy with the way they played that 2nd half last night - not good. - -the 2nd half just way , way to many open layups - like the Red Sea parting - - Wide open 3's like shooting practice in practice - -defense intensity was gone the 2nd half. - sure we won, but we play like that against somebody - -anybody that is anybody later in the year - -we gonna be in trouble.
Right around the 8:00 mark in the 1st half we were up 40-12 - - -from that point on we ended up being outscored 66-55 -- -not good , must of been thinking games were 20 minute games instead of 40 - -tale of two games - -we looked pretty good for the 1st 15 minutes - -then just eh the rest - - I'm sure Coach will remind them tomorrow. - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Self played Braun more than Enaruna.
Garrett is now down to 26.7% from three. Missed wide open attempts last night.
We discussed Dokeās poor rebounding. Maybe someone challenged his manhood. Seems to prove the effort argument. He plainly had a different mindset.
The total minutes for our bigs was 57. On Saturday it was 54. 48 vs Dayton. 50 vs BYU. McCormackās minutes since playing 29 vs Duke - 11, 16, 12 17, 20, 16, 15, 17.
PER's after the Milwaukee game.
Dotson is on a tear, now up to 26.2
Agbaji has made leaps in the last 4 games to 16.1 after hovering in the 10 range.
Garrett has dipped a bit recently but still well above his career average.
Some impressive stats for the Hawks individually after 9 games.
Dotson 19.8 ppg, 5 assists, 3.9 boards, 2 steals. 85.9% FT, 49% FG, 32.5% from 3.
Doke 14.8 ppg, 8.4 boards, 1.9 blocks pg. An Astounding 82% from the field. Maybe just as important up to 1 assist pg, and his fouls per game are down. @approxinfinity, your spot on with Doke about his passing improving
Agbaji now up to 12.1 ppg, 5.2 boards, 2.6 assists and now more importantly 40% from 3.
Garrett, solid line- 9, 4, over 4 assists a game, 2 steals.
Moss- doing exactly what we need, a 45% 3 point shooter. Also important to note he'll be an invaluable late game FT shooter with Dotson (90%).
BeddieKU23 said:
Moss- doing exactly what we need, a 45% 3 point shooter. Also important to note he'll be an invaluable late game FT shooter with Dotson (90%).
Moss is doing this without them being wide-open 3s too. You give him the smallest of a window and he isn't afraid to let it fly. Legit shooter.
Very good shooter. Gives this team invaluable spacing as well. If Agbaji and Moss are hitting 40% consistently we should theoretically keep defenses from trying to double the post option and should help keep those drives open for Dotson and Garrett. We'll see. I've been impressed with how well Moss has settled into his role
I think his chemistry is blending well w/team D too
Didn't read thru all of the posts so might have already been mentioned but...
I just felt all warm inside when the score was 40-12
@focojayhawk it was well noted!ā¤ļøšš