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Did not attend shoot around.

Team struggled scoring with him. Cant imagine what 40 minutes looks like without.

Guess I'll hope for the best but this doesn't look good at all

BeddieKU23 said:

Did not attend shoot around.

Team struggled scoring with him. Cant imagine what 40 minutes looks like without.

Guess I'll hope for the best but this doesn't look good at all

thank GOD it's Oklahoma

Was hopping on to post this. Not great, but it will probably do him some good.

@jayballer73 Could probably win the next 3 games without Dot.

@BShark

I honestly would be surprised but let's see how this one goes. Obviously someone tonight is going to have a career night if we have a chance

I don't like this quote at all from yesterday. Clearly full of cr*p if Dotson doesn't play, but I don't like it because it really places Dotson in a tough position.

“It’s a hip pointer,” Self reiterated. “So it’s going to be sore regardless. But it’s not one of those things that’s threatening to make it where you can’t play. But certainly, whenever you get it hit, it can make it uncomfortable where you’re thinking about it all the time. So he’s going to have to be mentally tough to get through that, but he can do that.”

KU also cut Baylor's lead to 5 over the first few minutes of the second half with Dotson on the bench and Garrett running point and Baylor extended back out to double digits after Dotson came back in.

lots of media talk going on that - - -MORE then a hip pointer

We’ll be fine without him in this one, interesting that they wait this long to announce.

jayballer73 said:

lots of media talk going on that - - -MORE then a hip pointer

Like what?

@kjayhawks

Don't speak too soon

HighEliteMajor said:

jayballer73 said:

lots of media talk going on that - - -MORE then a hip pointer

Like what?

wouldn't put a lot into anything yet myself. - Just came across on the local sports program I was listening to out of Topeka , talking about how there seems to be a lot of talk in the media. - - Thing is though they didn't come out and say WHAT it would be if it was.

Somebody mentioned yesterday I believe that there was talk about it being more , they mentioned what it was then but I can't remember where I read it at.

i'm not real worried - - - -YET - - I know I can't spell this right , hell I'm not even sure what it is but something about Lbyum tear - I'm sorry again I know it's not spelt right

Labrum

Surgery

The labrum is in your shoulder so that seems very unlikely

@BShark hip too

Is the labrum tear confirmed?

Had a friend that had a chiefs surgeon do his, both hips. Golf! I don’t know, would have to do mri. My boys had labral tears in shoulders-fb.

Seems an odd spot where he was hurting for a labral tear. More hip pointer to me.

More socket area, I think, like shoulder. ??

@Crimsonorblue22 agree

I’m doing pt for hip pointer now, hurts in that area.

@Crimsonorblue22 Right - You can get that tear from impact. It’s just really flexible rubber-like cartilage in the socket. I heard it explained one time but have never known anyone personally that had that tear and have no idea on recovery time, etc.

Crimsonorblue22 said:

Labrum

Thank you - -that's what I was talking about, but totally messed it up

Crimsonorblue22 said:

I’m doing pt for hip pointer now, hurts in that area.

I agree. The way he was holding his outer hip, it didn't look like where a labrum tear would cause pain. I went back and watched his mini-dunk and he seemed to have hurt or aggravated it on that. IMO. My initials are DR, but I'm not a doctor. Got hip slammed several times before that dunk trying to go around screens, so some prior contact also might have been the cause. He definitely felt it on that dunk though.

@DanR

According to the tape from the coaches they said he hurt it on a screen. I'll have to take a look at that dunk

After what happened with people questioning Doke's toughness last year before we knew it was the same injury as his freshman year, I'm not going to speculate on Dotson's toughness and severity of his hip injury right now because it may end up being much more severe than a standard hip pointer.

@BeddieKU23 it won’t be easy for sure

Labral tear is more wear and tear like a golf swing. But I’m going by my friends injury

Wait... who is saying he needs surgery?? That hasn’t been reported anywhere.

@Woodrow if it's a labral tear, as far as we know, it's not.

Crimsonorblue22 said:

Labral tear is more wear and tear like a golf swing. But I’m going by my friends injury.

Can be both -

https://www.hss.edu/condition-list_labral-tears-hip.asp ↗

@HighEliteMajor eww, thinking about mine.

@Woodrow people are just jumping to conclusions without any basis.

Wonder if they've done an mri on his hip?

Hot rumor is he’s out until February but just a rumor until something more concrete comes out

@FarmerJayhawk I don't know how they would know, hard to tell w/hip pointer.

FarmerJayhawk said:

Hot rumor is he’s out until February but just a rumor until something more concrete comes out

Ouch, at least the rumor isn't shutting it down to protect draft prospects.

If he is out until Feb at least this is a soft part of the schedule. Texas, KSU, Tenn, Okie Lite.

BShark said:

If he is out until Feb at least this is a soft part of the schedule. Texas, KSU, Tenn, Okie Lite.

Good point. Was looking at the slate coming up and if they think resting him during this part of the schedule could save his season at least there are no games we wouldn't be favored/expected to win (except our yearly dump in Stillwater of course)

This team is no good unless Dotson is healthy. If he needs rest to be healthy in March he’d better get plenty of rest. The games don’t matter much now.

I think Dotson being out for a few games could end up being a positive long-term. It's going to force guys to step up that otherwise wouldn't have. If Ochai, Moss and Garrett all gain some confidence with him out of the lineup, look out.

Sort of like the Chiefs having to find a way to win without Mahomes for a few games. The defense figured out some things about themselves during that stretch and when Pat got back we went on a tear.

Hopefully this is a similar effect. We have to find a way to generate offense from the other guard positions. And you can't bank on Moss hitting 6 threes every night, but it was good to see. Garrett going for 15 and literally blowing by whoever he wanted to was impressive. But to really have a shot to win it all we still need to get Ochai going some way some how.

Maybe moss needs to start to get in his rhythm? Do it! Need pts!

Definitely bad news. Not trying to be a downer but Dotson has struggled all year, and the injury might well amplify those struggles (i.e. trying to do too much when he does come back) and hurt team chemistry. I hope I'm wrong.

@Marco

I'd hate to see Dotson actually "struggling".

Me when I see people hating on Dotson:

@Kcmatt7

I think it is a positive to rest Devon right now and make the team go it alone.

These guys need pressure to step up. Who will it be?

This change forces everyone out of their comfort zones and we should become a tougher team because of it.

Devon should become better by sitting on the bench and watching a few games, taking mental notes on how he must adapt to make us a better team.

Our coaches need to be pushed to discover new sets, plays and how to score the ball and put more points on the board.

And I was getting worried everyone was starting to believe we are such a monster defensive team! We are not! I think we all get excited to finally see any of our guys play a little defense for a change!

Give us a game where our defense hustles as much as Nova or Baylor and we will flat out "pancake" our opponent! Note: "defense" also means sealing boards and diving for 50/50 balls.

Anybody know when och hurt his back, what play? I didn't notice.

Our D will probably suffer now w/dot avoiding contact, och's back and marcus's ankles. I was 🙏 about dokes hand on that block before half.🤬

@Crimsonorblue22

They said first 3 minutes of the game. Not sure if mentioned on what play